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Newsletter of the week[edit]

This newsletter is maintained on User:Relyk/Wiki Newsletter and might not objectively reflect what happened on the wiki.

  • Darqam creates Guild Wars 2 Wiki:Projects/NPC Coordinates, great for finding NPCs.
  • Alex, possibly hating snow, removes the Wintersday decorations the wiki had a week early.
  • Sysop JonTheMoon's status is changed to semi-active, and Tanetris first post of the year is to say he's been more active on the GWIW recently than here.

Event Rewards Templates[edit]

While I was adding rewards for defeating bosses in the Nightmare Fractal challenge mode, it came up that the rewards do not come from the bosses themselves, but rather are given out as event rewards (from completing the event objectives). Documenting the rewards for these events required updating both the fractal page in addition to the individual item's acquisition section. This pattern extends to many of the event rewards in HoT maps, where the drop itself may list the events that reward it, but the event itself does not mention the drop (even if it is guaranteed). This seems like a gap in the wiki templates/properties and I'd like the community's thoughts on my proposal.

Proposal
Create 2 new templates for event rewards/bouncy chests that you don't gain from rummaging around in the still-warm corpses of your enemies
  • rewards to specify what items are rewarded by an event(see Template:Drops):
    "This event rewards this item."
    • {{rewards|Chunk of the Solid Ocean}}
    • {{rewards|Chunk of the Solid Ocean}} (1-2)
    "This event objective rewards this item."
    • {{rewards|Chunk of the Solid Ocean|Defeat Siax the Corrupted}}
    • {{rewards|item=Chunk of the Solid Ocean|objective=Defeat Siax the Corrupted|name=Chunk}}
    Possible example:
  • rewarded by to list what events reward this item (see Template:Dropped by):
    "This is the list of events that reward this item."
    • {{rewarded by}}
    Possible example. I'm not sure what the best format would be, though:
Examples of Usage
  • rewards
    • Personal story rewards, e.g., Roots of Terror
    • Event rewards, e.g., Against the Chak Gerent meta-event, various other HoT events with guaranteed (or randomized) rewards
    • Event Objective rewards, e.g.,
      • The bosses in the Nightmare Fractal challenge mode do not drop loot directly, instead you get bouncy chests as "Event rewards" for completing the objective associated with the boss.
      • Spirit Woods (where such chests are omitted entirely).
  • rewarded by

--Floodbars (talk) 05:54, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

We don't have a template for bonus chests yet, but those gives a random item. The map meta reward is based on tier. The meta event progression rewards are more tied to the dynamic event being part of the meta event, rather than the event itself. The Story Journal stuff is covered by {{reward}} (old, bad name). The problem there is the reward is sometimes dependent on profession and the "pick-one" variation in the reward.
I'd hold off on lookup templates until we have a clear format for how the rewards are presented and where to put them. Seems more likely that we'll create a template for each reward type and at least store the reward item and reward type for presentation.--Relyk ~ talk < 07:10, 23 December 2016 (UTC)

Recent change to effect-based templates[edit]

I don't know hat has happened for sure, templates such as Crippled 40px.png Crippled, Bleeding 40px.png Bleeding, etc. used to support an optional parameter to change the wording while keeping the icon (i.e. {{crippled|cripples}} would say cripples). There are examples of previous use of this convention like here. As a result, I must use {{effect icon|crippled}}[[crippled|cripples]] for editing combat abilities sections of NPCs, which is extremely long. However, I know now that it was not a result of changes to the specific templates, but something that affects the wiki as a whole. I'm unsure as to what it could be, so, if possible, please offer some insight as to why this is happening. Sythe 02:36, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Articles shouldn't be using the templates anywhere in prose.--Relyk ~ talk < 05:00, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
I'm afraid I don't understand what you mean. Could you elaborate please? Sythe 15:58, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
I believe Relyk means that when it's used, it should solely be in cases where you'd use the word "crippled" rather than "cripples" - e.g., "this applies crippled" rather than "this cripples" - or in list of conditions. Basically, there should be no need to ever type {{crippled|cripples}}. If I'm understanding Relyk right. Konig (talk) 16:59, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Yeah, when there is text like “Using this skill causes a bleeding, just use normal links like that to keep up the reading flow. Those templates are mostly meant for things outside of text like a list of effects a skill could have. poke | talk 17:31, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
Ah, I see. I was attempting to follow previous conventions used on the wiki as examples, i.e. Jungle Tendril#Combat abilities under abilities. From now on I'll follow your recommendations, thanks! Sythe 17:54, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
You can largely thank User:Louise for doing that to the ability section of many NPCs (and many others followed suit), but as you can see... the templates aren't meant to be used in such a fashion. I fixed that particular article since I noticed other things wrong with it, as it is now is how I, personally at least, think articles should be for that template use. Konig (talk) 19:58, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

Story Instance Map[edit]

Was pondering the idea of including the map of the instances for stories/story instances. Couldn't hurt to have I was thinking, and I have at least one HoT story map(The Jungle Provides) that indicates where certain achievements start/the start is found I think. - Doodleplex 01:25, 7 January 2017 (UTC)

Coordinates on the wiki[edit]

Hello guys. {{NPC infobox map}} has been up for a few weeks now, and so far I'm pretty pleased with how it's turned out. I'm now thinking about adding coordinates to the following:

  1. Locations: I'm thinking about adding the coordinates from the API to Cities, Zones (not areas at the moment), Heart NPCs (they're in the api already) and probably Points of Interest. This will be "easy".
  2. Hero challenges (related to the above): There isn't currently a neat way to pick up all of the hero challenges pages (where context = Events, NPCs, and Objects) with one semantic query, which I think should be possible. I've composed a manual list of the pages here: User:Chieftain_Alex/sandbox2&oldid=1350395. I'm not sure which direction to go. Option A: We could just stick a manual category at the bottom of the page, such as "category:hero challenges", and then move the current content of that category to "Category:Hero challenge events" (since that's what they are). Option B: Alternatively we could add a parameter to all three infoboxes along the lines of "hero challenge = y" (and only use that for challenges with map markers). I'm open to other suggestions.

Side note: there's also the complication that multiple hero challenges share one page, e.g. Statue of Melandru (hero challenge) has four on one page.

(And yeah, eventually I want to be able to give two [x,y] pairs to a query, and it'll tell me exactly what's inside the bounds.) -Chieftain AlexUser Chieftain Alex sig.png 21:53, 13 January 2017 (UTC)