Category:Lore discrepancies

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List of lore discrepancies.
Please note that ArenaNet has announced that several corrections will be made in a future patch - though a date has yet not been confirmed. See the discussion page for further details.

Date added Page Description
29 October 2017 (02:10) Blighting Tree During Taimi's Game, Taimi states "The ones who came from the blighting pods! Mordremoth had its minions, the sylvari, right? But it was able to create more, new ones from the dead! That power came from Zhaitan! Killing Zhaitan caused the other dragons to absorb the death spectrum, but we only saw it in Mordremoth because it was active." However, in "Chapter 1: Fools and Followers" of Edge of Destiny by J. Robert King. it depicts "Eir roared, her blades flinging out to slash the throats of two more icebrood. They fell beside her as another came on—a man with hair like a horse’s tail. She knew this man, though his face was smashed, his nose canted to one side, his teeth gone where some great fist had struck him. His flesh was sealed in ice. His eyes were white, filled with the fury of the Dragonspawn." showing that Jormag could corrupt corpses without Zhaitan's magic, and in Prisoners of the Dragon, Faolain states "That's because Mordremoth doesn't care if we're alive or dead when it plugs us into a Blighting Tree." and Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns shows the Blighting Trees used to create clones, rather than corrupt such as in in Bitter Harvest both Logan Thackeray and Zojja are still alive when in the Blighting Pod while mordrem clones are made. Furthermore, an interview with Ree Soesbee and Kristen Perry confirmed that "[...] because the race tightly relates to the essence of human due to the Pale Tree’s influences from Ronan, the overall form has a human silhouette. [...] They are a collection of abstract notions the Pale Tree had about what made up the human, as she really only saw the surface. They are a tree’s interpretation of humans." , just like the Blighting Trees but less precise.
27 October 2017 (18:10) Giant Gray giants were redesigned between Guild Wars Nightfall and Guild Wars 2, removing their tusks and one of their eyes. This is evidenced by (among other things) the differing appearance of Uhiwi the Smoky between the two games. The existence of the Ancient Tusk, however, suggests that canonically gray giants are supposed to have tusks.
13 October 2017 (03:10) Glint During Return to Camp Resolve, Eir states that, "[Glint] had the gift of prophecy and the burden of three thousand years of memories"; during Crystalline Memories, Glint states that "I remember only fragments from the days before the Forgotten performed their ritual on me"; during Edge of Destiny Glint states she was placed on the world 3,000 years ago.

However, Warden Illyra states in The Ruined City of Arah (explorable) that "the Forgotten discovered a great spell that granted Glint a will free from control by the Elder Dragon. She then concealed many of the elder races from the dragons." In that same dungeon, Varra Skylark states that the Mystic Telescope shows the last dragonrise to be "Around ten thousand years ago."

13 October 2017 (02:10) Forgotten The Guild Wars Manuscripts says that, "Serpents arrive in Tyria" in 1769 BE. However, Warden Illyra claims that "Forgotten worked with Glint, who hid the old races from the dragons' power" during The Ruined City of Arah. Given that Varra Skylark claims that the Mystic Telescope shows that the Elder Dragons were last awake around ten thousand years ago, it's not clear how both of these things can be true.
13 October 2017 (01:10) Bad Blood Sieran states that, "The dwarven civilization lasted for more than two thousand years", but the dwarves were present for the last rise of the Elder Dragons, which in the Ruined City of Arah's jotun path, is established by the Mystic Telescope to be around 10,000 years ago (to coincide with the extinction of the Great Giants), as well as for the events of Guild Wars Prophecies, which was around 250 years ago. Additionally The Natural War by Airkas states that, "Jotun and dwarves were the inventors of modern weaponry. Rocks, metals, and trees of the Shiverpeaks became battle equipment in 10,000 BE".
10 October 2017 (03:10) Turai Ossa After Augury Rock mission in Guild Wars: Prophecies, Turai Ossa had Ascended and moved on to his proper afterlife in the the Hall of Heroes. Despite this, he can be found in Elon Riverlands.
17 July 2017 (18:07) "Scarlet Briar: a Brief" "Scarlet Briar: a Brief" refers to Scarlet Briar as being born in the "Cycle of Day". However, this does not match any of the four Sylvari cycles; being Dawn, Noon, Dusk and Night.
08 March 2017 (07:03) Discourse on a Tome (1075 A.E.) This book claims to document a Durmand Priory conference in 1075 AE, but the Timeline states that the Durmand Priory wasn't established until 1105 AE.
23 September 2016 (23:09) Old Foes, Old Ghosts During Igneous Breach Rhoban states that the dwarves have been recently maintaining the machines, however the fourth machine encountered during Old Foes, Old Ghosts is sealed behind a door that only mursaat and those disguised as them are allowed to pass through.
23 June 2016 (21:06) Brokka In her historical dialogue, Brokka stated that she was marrying Captain Tokk, and that he owned a farm on the outskirts of Lion's Arch. However, this farm belongs to Tokk, a different male asura.
05 April 2016 (01:04) Howl the Brazen In early mission discussions with NPCs, it is said that Howl's body was never found in the rubble when the crypt collapsed in Fury of the Dead. But in Graveyard Ornaments, the player goes to his grave and find the body missing, the player character saying he saw the body.
11 November 2015 (11:11) Exalted Sage One of the Exalted Sage's dialogues state that "Once [Glint] was gone, [the Forgotten] gathered her most loyal human allies and tested them to see which could be Exalted." However, Glint died in 1320 AE per Edge of Destiny, and the Exalted have been in hibernation for over a century per The Exalted: Pure Dedication and other dialogue.
05 October 2015 (20:10) In Consideration of Sacrifice According to In Consideration of Sacrifice, the White Mantle had the Scepter of Orr when Evennia was a recruit in the Shining Blade. However, in Guild Wars Prophecies, Evennia was the leader of the Shining Blade when the White Mantle obtained the Scepter of Orr.
21 September 2015 (08:09) General Almorra Soulkeeper Crusader Arevir Soulhammer states that "Almorra Soulkeeper was a tribune in the Blood Legion." However on page 97 in Ghosts of Ascalon, Almorra states "I served as a legionnaire in the Blood Legion at the time." Following up with her superiors' - a Centurion - duty.
23 June 2015 (14:06) They Went Thataway Lady Wi says that she cast Lyssa's Veil on Demmi when the latter left Divinity's Reach, and can't again because a day hasn't passed. However, per Stealing Secrets, Demmi had been in Applenook "a few days" prior. Furthermore, she says she can re-cast the illusion on you if it fails.
20 June 2015 (03:06) The Dead End: A Study in Scarlet The first hologram recording talks about events that happened before Scarlet found out of hologram recordings, such as shortly after her awakening (very first entry).
20 June 2015 (03:06) Prosperity's Mystery Scarlet Briar claims to have sent steam creatures into Brisban Wildlands, however the only steam creatures present there is during Split Second, brought there by the Infinity Ball.Although Scarlet's journal states that she will stop writing and instead use holograms, Scarlet Briar's Journal is dated a year after she became sixteen (a date given by her holographic recordings).
20 June 2015 (03:06) Auwurgh Auwurgh mentions Destiny's Edge being in the Blazeridge Steppes (specifically Degun Shun) in the past, but mentions only one asura. Edge of Destiny depicts Destiny's Edge when they were united prior to the personal story, but they were never near Degun Shun and there were always two asura (Zojja and Snaff).
11 June 2015 (17:06) Minister's Defense Ember Doomforge's dialogue of her mother seems to refer to Almorra Soulkeeper, who is revealed in Ghosts of Ascalon to be Ember's grandmother, not her mother.Minister Duran mentions growing up in Wiley's Cove, calling it a Krytan village. However, it is a pirate cave.
30 April 2015 (03:04) Crusader Arevir Soulhammer Crusader Arevir Soulhammer states that Almorra was "Almorra Soulkeeper was a tribune in the Blood Legion." However on page 97 in Ghosts of Ascalon, Almorra states "I served as a legionnaire in the Blood Legion at the time." Following up with her superiors' - a Centurion - duty.
20 April 2015 (08:04) Ox (spirit) According to A Spirit of Legend, the Ox Spirit is also called Dolyak. However, Shrine to Ox in Hoelbrak and the Dolyak Shrine in Angvar's Trove differ in appearance. (One is a bull, while the other is a dolyak.)
12 March 2015 (02:03) Mordremoth During Scarlet's Secret Room, Mordremoth's name is mentioned for the very first time (in in-game lore/storytelling). However, it is implied that the name is already well known to both the player and their companions.


The issue was recognized and addressed by Bobby Stein on the official forums: "(...) the player character's knowledge of Mordremoth and how that fits into the story. For some players, this may have felt like it came out of nowhere" (source1). The possibility for a future fix has been vaguely mentioned, though not confirmed (source2).

24 February 2015 (02:02) Historian Merry Historian Merry states that the Jotun's fall from grace may, in addition to the psychological changes, have had an affect to their physical appearance.


However, the few in-game models showing Jotun prior to their downfall (Elder Thruln, Jotun Spirit, Jotun Ghost) does not reflect this fact.

15 February 2015 (03:02) Aurielo the Survivor Aurielo mentions a "tomb of an ancient war leader of Ascalon" that is "up north a ways" from Cornucopian Fields.
However, the only tomb in that direction is of Mazdak the Accursed, who hails from Orr and founded Kryta. (ref. Dead of Winter)
15 January 2015 (05:01) Azabe Qabar, the Royal Tombs The tombstones located right outside the entrance to Azabe Qabar are written in New Krytan. This conflicts with Timeline which states "1071 AE: The Sinking of Orr." and Cultural Diffusion in Contemporary Kryta which states "the New Krytan alphabet was born. The year was 1105 AE." - 34 years after Orr sank.
13 December 2014 (08:12) Mazdak the Accursed