Talk:List of engineer skills

Color template ?

Just wondering… What color is the engineer's, exactly ? On the official site (profession reveal and wallpaper) it looks like a pale brown, but it's hard to tell the exact hue. -Alarielle- 17:03, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

psssst, head over here Venom20 17:06, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

Utility skills

It seems like the engineer is kind of the reverse of other skill sets: instead of weapon choice being vital and utility skills secondary, it seems like there's much more competition for utility skills, with weapon skills mainly acting as complements to them. I could be totally wrong, but this is really quite interesting. ~Ekko (talk) 22:02, 19 May 2011 (UTC)

True, it does have a much different feel than the other professions; I tend to think of it as somewhat like a more ranged version of Guardian gameplay. Zolann The Irreverent 00:54, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Rearrangement

This skill page needs to be better arranged. Most of the skills of unidentified type will be utility, elite or healing slot skills which each have their own subset of weapon skills and a tool belt skill. You could set each of the kits up in a separate section like this:

Kit	Skill
Flamethrower	Tool belt
	Weapon skills	Immolate
		Backdraft
		Air Blast

Or add all of the information into a larger utility skills section - which might be more difficult to maintain. Thoughts? -- aspectacle  01:40, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Sorry - I think there are only 4 tool belt skills so either the elite slot or the healing slot skill misses out. I can't tell which atm. I'm still reading the info. -- aspectacle  01:43, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Elite, I think. We know the med kit gets a toolbelt skill. ~Ekko (talk) 01:45, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Are you even sure there's a relation between the skill slots and the tool belts ? For all we know you might be able to customize the tool belt. Or maybe I missed some info ? -Alarielle- 08:58, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Toolbelts are like Attunements, from what I collected; They would get their own table. - Infinite - talk 09:06, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Or you could consider them like burst skills linked to the warrior weapons and present them the way I suggested. I think they're better presented together. -- aspectacle  01:06, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

They are like burst skills for the utility slots...Overclocking, anyone? Zolann The Irreverent 01:12, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

I would keep the table the way it is… but maybe make it a bit larger ? Looks so small compared to the others ; I know it's what was done on other profession's pages, but this one just looks too small. Maybe because it has three columns. -Alarielle- 10:15, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I was under the impression that that table would go as sub-section of utility skills, but I reread it now and I clearly misunderstood. I think this is a good idea. - Infinite - talk 13:21, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Kit skills

Why delete the kits from the utility skills table ? It seemed to me they have their place there, even when listing the skills they provide above and mentioning they are utility skills. -Alarielle- 10:20, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Grenade Satchel?

Considering that the odds that Grenade Satchel is not the grenade kit are next to zero, shouldn't we replace references to the generic "grenade kit" with the specific skill name (and make grenade kit a redirect to grenade satchel)? ~Ekko (talk) 17:00, 21 May 2011 (UTC)

Proposal: Merge tool belt skills with healing/utility skill table.

From the description of the tool belt, it is implied that every healing and utility skill available to an engineer will have a specific counterpart present on the tool belt. If this is the case, can't another column simply be added to the table already present for healing and utility skills? It feels excessive to me to have two tables. Thoughts? —Proton 08:42, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

Agree, although I think it's important to group specific abbilities for clarification that they all belong to the tool belt. I shall think over ideas for that, although I hope someone else will step in with a great solution =) -- Cyan 08:58, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

I propose waiting until the latest demo to actually see how the Tool Belt functions and go from there. - Infinite - talk 11:10, 14 June 2011 (UTC)

So, then? People got to see the engy during the fanday demo, right? What's the word on this? ~~ Kiomadoushi 05:36, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Well I'd say after the update on utility belt skills, with every heal/utility having a tool belt skill, the merge makes more sense so as to not repeat every skill. Revote? ~~ Kiomadoushi 03:41, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

There has been general support; I'm going to implement it, now that we know that every healing/utility skill is linked to a tool belt skill. Aqua (T|C) 03:43, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Not the best, but it's certainly better. Aqua (T|C) 03:58, 5 November 2011 (UTC)

Flame Thrower

Sauce for this skill? --AdventurerPotatoe - 15:44, 25 June 2011 (UTC)

The IGN fanday preview. Glastium | talk 04:37, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

Sry, my fault. I confuse it with the flamethrower. Glastium | talk 04:42, 26 June 2011 (UTC)

video

just some engineer footage. http://uk.pc.gamespy.com/pc/guild-wars-2/1179074p1.html --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 81.155.157.34 (talk).

And here's a better solution pic for rifle skills. Maybe someone can make it icons? Glastium | talk 12:58, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

here is another good video http://youtu.be/KGUuc6kBN1I --Inoshiro 11:50, 24 February 2012 (UTC)

downed

found a vid where an engineer was downed. no i dont know the skills names or wat the they do, but i was wondering if we could put in the icons? (id do it but i dont know how :( ) its around 6:47 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKuGPQHIBaA --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 74.140.47.76 (talk).

Deploy Ballistic Barrier

Just a question about this skill: Is it going to be an object (like turrets, although it would be a barrier) or will it be just kneeling behind your shield? Maybe something else? Thanks for any answers :) --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 173.76.220.66 (talk).

Tool Belt

The current format makes the Tool Belt skills look like they chain from their associated Utility skill. The heals still use the Chain format (which is an error), and the current arrow format is confusing. As they are separate skills, I'd propose making a separate section for Tool Belt Skills. Something like this:

Profession mechanic skills

*Some Healing and Utility skills grant an associated skill to the Tool belt.

Required Skill	Tool Belt Skill	Recharge	Description
Elixir H	Toss Elixir H	20	Elixir. Drink Elixir H to heal yourself and gain protection, regeneration, and swiftness.
Healing Turret	Detonate Healing Turret		Detonate your healing turret.
Med Kit	Bandage Self	17	Bandage your wounds and heal yourself.
Rocket Boots	Rocket Kick	15	Use your rocket boots to do an explosive kick that burns foes.

Etc., etc. This way is much clearer, and it clarifies their class mechanic.--Anxiety 16:56, 29 February 2012 (UTC)

While it definitely needs to be changed, I think it'd be more practical to place the toolbelt skills next to their corresponding healing/utility skill instead of at the top by themselves. --98.163.251.165 10:23, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

It would be marvelous if we could make that work and not look terrible. It works for Warrior and Thief because they only have one skill per weapon, and they have cleverly labeled them "Burst Skill" and "Stealth Skill" in the "Equipped In" column. Unfortunately, there's just too many of them for Engineer; one for each Heal and Utility skill, in fact. This makes a mess of the table and fails to clearly indicate which is a Utility skill and which is a Tool Belt skill. I would also suggest putting it at the bottom, under the Heal/Utility table, rather than the top like other Professions. --Anxiety 12:03, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

How about something like this:

Slot and Profession mechanic skills

*Skills marked "Tool Belt" occupy keys F1-F4, above the Weapon Skills Bar. Each one requires the skill above them in the table to be equipped.

Slot	Skill Type	Skill	Recharge	Description
Healing	Elixir	Elixir H	20	Elixir. Drink Elixir H to heal yourself and gain protection, regeneration, and swiftness.
	Tool Belt	Toss Elixir H	20	Elixir. Toss Elixir H to grant protection, regeneration, and vigor to allies.
	Turret	Healing Turret	20	Turret. Deploy a turret that heals you briefly, then regenerates you and your allies. This turret overcharges when it is first placed.
	Tool Belt	Detonate Healing Turret		Detonate your healing turret.
	Device kit	Med Kit		Engineering Kit. Equip a kit that replaces your weapon with healing skills.
	Tool Belt	Bandage Self	17	Bandage your wounds and heal yourself.
Utility	Gadgets	Rocket Boots	2	Gadget. Fly forward, removing movement-impairing conditions and damaging foes with your rocket exhaust. Movement-impairing conditions include cripple, chill, and immobilize.
	Tool Belt	Rocket Kick	15	Use your rocket boots to do an explosive kick that burns foes.
	Gadgets	Slick Shoes	30	Gadget. Spray oil behind you, knocking down foes. If underwater, foes entering the field are blinded and slowed.
	Tool Belt	Superspeed	20	Activate your slick shoes, enabling you to move at superior speeds.
Elite	General	Supply Crate	75	Turret. Request a supply drop of turrets. Turrets overcharge when they are first dropped.
	Elixir	Elixir X	75	Elixir. Drink Elixir X to become a rampaging brute, whirling tornado, or powerful lich. Underwater, become either a withering plague or a whirlpool.
	Turret	Mortar	120	Build a stationary mortar that you or your allies can fire.

The Skill Types are broken up, but it more clearly explains which is the Tool Belt Skill, as well as which skill they need. --Anxiety 12:15, 1 March 2012 (UTC)

Skill points

Do we really need skill points on this page? If we put all the information 'bout a skill on this page, it can get messy quickly. And it renders the single skill page pointless. Glastium talk 18:15, 18 March 2012 (UTC)

I think it's more comprehensive, and will help people when the game launches. It's such a small column and doesn't make it messy. The fewer clicks necessary to get information, the better. Individual skill pages still have all of the specific effects and durations, while this page has only their in-game description. Now that would be messy. --Anxiety 11:49, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Racial Toolbelt skills

They've added toolbelt skills for the various racial abilities, and I don't see them on the Engineer nor the Racial Ability pages. I don't know how to add these to the matrix myself, but these are the two Asura abilities I had access to today (the damage values are not to scale with the others because these were on my level 17 character, so please ignore them, all the other elements should be constants):

Pain Transference (Pain Inverter): 45 cooldown

Send out a bolt that steals a boon from your foe and gives them one condition from you.

Damage: 33

Range: 900

Vent Radiation (Radiation Field): 45 cooldown

Vent radioactive gas to poison nearby foes.

Poison (9s): 273 Damage, -33% Heal Effectiveness

Range: 360

Anyways, this is something that hopefully will get compiled after launch. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Ohoni (talk • contribs).

I think all of those skills are actually already documented on the wiki--they're linked to from the parent skills' infoboxes. Someone with some DPL knowledge should be able to add them fairly easily. ~Ekko (talk) 06:14, 22 August 2012 (UTC)

Turrets self overcharging

Since turrets now overcharge themselves, I dont think we need to see those skills on this page. We can just get rid of them like it is in the turret page. Would do alot to clean this page up. 72.143.214.37 15:42, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Utility

Skill				Description
Flame Turret		0.5½	20	Turret. Deploy a turret that burns foes. This turret overcharges when it is first placed.
Detonate Flame Turret				Detonate your flame turret.
Throw Napalm		0.5½	25	Throw a ball of napalm that explodes on impact, burning foes around target location.
Net Turret		0.5½	30	Turret. Build a net turret that immobilizes nearby foes. This turret overcharges when it is first placed.
Detonate Net Turret				Detonate your net turret.
Net Attack		0.25¼	38	Fire a net from your belt to immobilize your foe.
Rifle Turret		0.5½	20	Turret. Build a rifle turret that shoots at foes. This turret overcharges when it is first placed.
Detonate Rifle Turret				Detonate your rifle turret.
Surprise Shot			8	Fire a bullet out of your belt.
Harpoon Turret		0.5½	20	Turret. Build a harpoon turret that shoots at foes. This turret overcharges when it is first placed.
Detonate Harpoon Turret				Detonate your harpoon turret.
Harpoon		0.5½	8	Launch a harpoon from your belt.
Rocket Turret		0.5½	40	Turret. Build a turret that fires rockets. This turret overcharges when it is first placed.
Detonate Rocket Turret				Detonate your rocket turret.
Detonate Rocket Turret				Detonate your rocket turret.
Rocket		0.5½	25	Fire a rocket out of your belt that explodes on impact.
Thumper Turret		0.5½	40	Turret. Build a high-health thumper turret that damages nearby foes. This turret overcharges when it is first placed.
Detonate Thumper Turret				Detonate your thumper turret.
Rumble		0.25¼	38	Release a shock wave of inertial force to damage nearby foes.

This is what it would look like. On another note, should look into cleaning this page up again, 72.143.214.37 15:52, 12 May 2020 (UTC)

Feedback 2020/05/18

Scatter Mines (underwater weapon skill) has no longer a flip-over version and can't be detonated manually Same goes for Net Wall (underwater weapon 5) --78.233.150.74 08:22, 18 May 2020 (UTC)