User talk:DiegoDeLaHouska/Archive 1

Attuened Blood Ruby Band

The thing you have written about is Unique and it is also stated in Ascended trinket article (third paragraph). The F. Prince (talk) 11:18, 17 August 2016 (UTC)

Node locations

Why have you removed locations from all the home instance node articles? You even removed locations from Bauble (node) after I reverted your original removal -- please don't do this. We prefer that you explain why you feel a change needs to be made when others disagree with it, rather than getting into a revert war. --Idris (talk) 14:18, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

I also notice that you tried to rename [[:File:Orrian Oyster Node.jpg]] to File:Orrian Oyster (object).jpg by uploading the same image as a new file; this is unnecessary. In future, you can simply use the "move" tab to rename it. --Idris (talk) 14:33, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

I removed them because they were there twice. Also people can already see that they can find it only in home instance because it is writen in the description already. having it there 3 times it's literally useless. Other thing is that only few nodes had that location in the description. I know that nodes like Elder Wood are not only in the home instance but those nodes wich are only in home instance didn't had locations at all. If you want to have locations there then sure but at least keep it the same. About the Orrian Oyster Node I tryed to link it to new Orrian Oyster (object) but it didnt allowed me to connect it together so I made a new one. If you want to have your name there then go ahead and reupload it so you would have your name there. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DiegoDeLaHouska (talk).

Like I mentioned in my edit summary on Bauble (node), it's our standard to put the location information in the article twice: once in the infobox so the information can show up on other parts of the wiki, and once on the article so extra details can be added, like directions if it's hard-to-find. I do see your point with the home instance nodes, though, since they're just in the home instance, but having locations in the infobox would still be useful for cases where the nodes might be called by other pages on the wiki.

With regard to the Orrian Oyster Node -- when you want the infobox to display an image that doesn't have the same name as the article, add image=<filename>.jpg. Here's an example. :) The issue with uploading it again as a new file is partly about preserving the upload history, but also because duplicate files create unnecessary work for the admins, since one of them will have to be deleted. --Idris (talk) 16:30, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

Isn't it easier then just write Location:Home Instance insted of all those possible maps ? Also we could make a map of those home instances with every node icons so people would know exactly where they are. We already have maps on wiki for normal maps so it could work ? Maybe there would be a problem with floors like in Hoelbark. I do care about home isntance because I had a lot of people talking to me that it is really "confusing" on wiki. Some were asking me if you can gather it once or many more times. Wich I dont understand why because you had writen on the node, the iten wich you buy and also on home instance itself that you can gether it once per day on your account. I just wanted to make it more simple that is all.

It's good that you care about making the wiki easier to use; it's just that when you plunge into making big changes without discussing what you're doing or undoing reverts without explaining why, it can get confusing for other editors and potentially result in an even bigger mess than before. Please continue improving the home instance articles! Adding Location=Home instance to the infobox would probably be okay, I think. --Idris (talk) 17:12, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

FYI, the {{object infobox}} applies the property "Located in" to the pages. Accurately listing an object's location in the infobox is a benefit for organizational and discovery purposes. G R E E N E R 17:33, 14 May 2018 (UTC)

And is there a reason why some home instance nodes do have icon and some doesn't ? Also some kind of rule here or just people forgot about it ? There should be a template for home instance nodes or something. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by DiegoDeLaHouska (talk)

It looks like some node pages are using their respective map icons as icons on the wiki. If you're looking for guidelines on how to format node pages, you can head to our object formatting page.

PS: When making edits on a page, please use the "Show preview" option. It will speed up your editing and ensure that the Recent changes page doesn't get bogged down. Thanks! G R E E N E R 15:53, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Icons

May I ask you to check the page User:Darqam/Dat Icons for new icons and move it to the correct name before uploading it a second time? --Tolkyria (talk) 13:12, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Yes sure. Why do we have it on a user page ?--DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 13:15, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

With a new release User:Darqam extracts all new icons and uploads it with his bot. The gallery on his userpage gives an overview of the new icons, waiting to be moved and named accordingly. --Tolkyria (talk) 13:24, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

I hope you understand that I couldnt know it. Also for me to move those wich I already made, I need to destroy those already there so there wouldnt be a duplicate right ? Am I able to destroy them myself or does an admin need to do that ? --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 13:26, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

Don't worry about your already uploaded icons, I assume you got them from the API, so they are perfectly fine. Indeed, you can't overwrite the icons you already uploaded, that needs an admin, just leave them as they are.

I just wanted to let you know that for any further icons from now on you can check User:Darqam/Dat Icons. Please keep up the good work, maybe with making your life easier by just moving the files instead of downloading, renaming and uploading them. --Tolkyria (talk) 13:37, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

But .. but then I wouldnt have anything to do. Checking the API and serching for everything myself is part of the fun. Ofcorse I cant find everything. For example the SkyScale itons is something I couldnt find myself. Also do we need to "destroy" those I already uploaded myself manualy ? They are fine no ? So you can just delete them from Darqbot insted or mark them as used ? Might be easier. --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 13:41, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

As I said, don't worry about your uploaded icons, they are fine. If you don't like Darqams icons, please just do whatever you want within the wiki rules.--Tolkyria (talk) 13:50, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

No Im just curious. So many possibilities what I could do. If I would be able to delete things .. oh. I promise I wouldnt destroy Wiki, at least not in few days so you could stop me. About those icons they are fine. Named diferently so its a bit harder to find wich are wich but its alright. Im just glad to help when I can with what I can that is all. --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 14:10, 15 May 2019 (UTC)

One small question probably . About these fr:Bottes de corsaire lourdes when I dont speak fr or any other language. Should I leave it blank ? I dont really want to use transletor because its never 100% correct. --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 12:42, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Yes, leave it blank, we add interwikis in the case that someone adds the equivalent page on the french/german/spanish wiki. You would need to know their template names, their formatting style, etc... just leave it blank. --Tolkyria (talk) 13:27, 16 May 2019 (UTC)

Is there a way how to get more informations about items/parts of achievements wich doesn't show up in the API ? Example Skyscale Stealth and items as part of the achievement. Or we can only get that information while been in the game ?

The API whitelists only items that are obtained ingame, i.e. that have been in an inventory of any player. Since for some achievements the items aren't put in the inventory, they don't show up in the API.

Several possible solutions:

1. Use the template {{item link}} in your [[User:DiegoDeLaHouska/Sandbox]] or similar (or just preview it), for example: {{item link|90582}} gives the following chatlink: , copy it and put in the ingamechat.
2. Get the information from ingame, which might take some time due to being timegated... as you said, not your favourite.
3. Ask for manual whitelist on the forum, this may take ages, if they every do it... so I suggest to use method 1.

id	chatlink
90582
90392
90642

--Tolkyria (talk) 12:30, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

I did asked other player on reddit for these informations. That's how I got those screanshots in the first place. I will leave it how it is if it's ok. Tomorrow I should be able to open these achievements myself. After that I will rewrite them myself. Till then waiting if someone kind enough on reddit will write it down for me. Thank you for your time --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 12:37, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

It's work in progress with stub tags, that's fine.

With method 1 one can at least add the item names, but adding the hints, etc.. gets complicated. So indeed, having ingame access to an achievement simplifies a lot, you just have to be patient :-) --Tolkyria (talk) 12:48, 20 May 2019 (UTC)

I have added the last icons and Skyscale achievements. Yet there are some icons wich were not used . Maybe they are for the last achievements in exploration tab ? No clue just yet. Now I just hope those icons are exactly where they suppose to be and that I didnt moved one where it shouldnt be. --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 13:20, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

Thank you so much for all of your work! Greener (talk) 14:04, 23 May 2019 (UTC)

It doesnt mater anyway. There will always be some people who will add an information wich are not suppose to be there and sign themselfs for a reward. Im glad that my friends can now do the Skyscale. All that matered for me. --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 08:03, 24 May 2019 (UTC)

Acquisition text

Acquisition text is a funny one - it's really difficult to find a wording that everybody can agree with. I'm looking at most of these edits - the version currently on all of those pages somewhat suggests to me (when i read it) that its a guaranteed drop. The idea of it being a possible drop seems to have been lost when its been reworded. Would it be alright with you if I were to ask the community portal how to word these sections so that everyone is satisfied? -Chieftain Alex 21:24, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

Did I went to far ? It started when I got the Grenth ring as drop in the game. Wanted to check if there is a colection or any other unique loots I could get. Noticed that some of those pages about these items were really outdated. Did I get carried away ? Hope I didnt done anything wrong. I do know that you dont have 100% chance to get these items but that shouldnt mater ? You never have exact % writen anywhere in the game or the game code so you cant really say that you have 46,35% to have this item droped. The sentence itself isnt wrong as well . You get this item from this chest from this event. That is all people really need to know no ? I just hope I didnt messed up "again". --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 21:33, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

No you haven't messed up. There is no messing up on a wiki! :)

The whole point of the wiki is that edits get challenged + rehashed until (hopefully) everyone's happy with it! Years ago I created Template:Exotic weapon text, and in a similar vein it's taken 14 editors to do a fairly simple couple of generic lines. I personally find it really tough to word short punchy sentences (particularly acquisition ones) - I'm going to stick a note up on the community portal and see if I can get some wording suggestions. -Chieftain Alex 22:02, 17 June 2019 (UTC)

I think it is mostly that with the old wording it was clear that you didn't get the item every time (rare drop), as it is now I would expect the item on every completion of the event. —Kvothe (talk)

Yes but That is it. You have an item wich has only sorce . Then you have the event wich does have the drop % written there. The item itself doesnt need to have that information. Look at Eternal Ice and the event. The event still keeps the drop rate of the item. --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 01:27, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Ok, I see your point. But having "chance" on the item page would prevent me having to search one more page and reduce confusion for those not reading the event page. —Kvothe (talk) 14:00, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

First dont be lazy to click one more time for one more page. Also yes but the % chances shouldnt be under acquisition. % or how to get these chests to spawn shouldnt be in the description of the item itself. Also I have been trying to find more informations about these items in the game. Looks like you will get a chest from temple events after the "meta event" will be finished . While you are capturing it. Not the other way around sadly . Only Lyssa can still drop you All Seen while you are deffending from the enemy but other Temples will not reward you at all. Only map bonus for finishing the even. I wish we would have timers and that they would be fixed. Orr really need rework badly. --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 15:50, 18 June 2019 (UTC)

Thank you for your work on the item pages. At the moment you are also removing some of the other page contents (salvage results and such) with your edits. —Kvothe (talk) 15:56, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Yes I know. Salvage and "Bugs" that some items have only 1 prefix wich they were designed that way. You have (fine) items wich always salvage into copper ore and the upgrade stone. The Exotic versions drops diferent materials based on the salvage tools. You can make a template for the fine items if you want. So every single fine ring,amulet or accessories with Amber Pebble as upgrade drops the pebble and 1-3 copper ores when you salvage it. And the only exotic I do remmeber I salvaged was All Seen (Exotic) wich droped the assasin upgrade and soem ore . Mithril probablly --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 16:08, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Thanks very much for amending the text on the original pages. Much appreciated! -Chieftain Alex 17:16, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

If you want to do template for the salvage then that will be up to you based on the fact that I never made any templates and have no clue how to do it . If no tamplate will be made then just let me know and I will add the salvage to all the items , Templs , Treasure Hunter items , Meta event boss items and so on --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 17:32, 19 June 2019 (UTC)

Uploaded artwork

Hey Diego, the image you uploaded, File:User-DiegoDeLaHouska.jpg, appears to be licensed on deviantart.com. Unfortunately the license they use is incompatible with the licensing we use on the wiki. It is a beautiful piece of art, but we are not able to host it here. Greener (talk) 01:14, 30 September 2019 (UTC)

NPCs

did you just add the NPCs from the area article to the zone article for EotN? -Chieftain Alex 17:09, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

I made a list of NPCs I found and added them onto the page . Wasnt moving anything anywhere. --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 18:09, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

• Eye of the North = City with overview of areas
  • Hall of Monuments = Area with NPC links

which is similar to:

• Lion's Arch = City
  • Trader's Forum = Area with NPC links

Basically make it be documented like every other city. -Chieftain Alex 18:22, 22 March 2020 (UTC)

Use of the "undo" button

Hi. Please can you make every effort to explain why you are undoing edits when using the "undo" link from the History tab. Sometimes it's not immediately obvious why an edit is being undone, particularly when it is not vandalism. This especially applies to reverting edits of New and Anonymous users as we want to retain editors and not alienate them. These are the two reversion-edits in question. I've dropped a quick note on the IP's talk page which didn't take more than a minute to write. -Chieftain Alex 16:15, 26 April 2020 (UTC)

Apologies with regards to Dungeon vendor pages

Morning. Apologies but I was out of order on discord.

You were completely correct in that (A) the item pages needed to display all of their vendors, and that (2) the vendor pages should have been using a standard inventory template from day one (- the notes sections were also woefully inconsistent). This is my fault for being lazy when i created the Dungeon Armor and Weapons/<subpages> back in 2015.

Compared to your creation of the subpages, I've made a few tiny tweaks- (1) converted the vendor pages to call {{inventory}} rather than directly calling the subpages - this provides an edit link to the tables and will help any future editors who need to amend them, (2) restored some of the interwiki links inadvertently removed, (3) standardised the text and notes sections across all the vendor pages, (4) replicated the content to subpages for all 4 vendors.

I too would have like to display all the information on one page, but 528 sets of subobjects including individual SMW icon/canonical name + currency formatting calls is a bit too much for the wiki to cope with. If there wasn't a limit on the number of vendor rows we could display, I would also choose to separately identify the 3 prefixes available- currently we just link to the page as a whole (this would add a further 880 subobjects/icons/names). -Chieftain Alex 11:12, 9 May 2020 (UTC)

Extended editor

Hey, have you considered asking a bureaucrat for extended editor permissions? It'll give you the ability to move pages without leaving a redirect behind, so you won't have to waste your time marking them for deletion afterwards! —Idris 17:56, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Never ! xD --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 17:58, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

You'd rather make me clean up after you, huh? Fine! talk 19:53, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Personal cleaner ? Hmm glad I dont need to pay you anything for it. No its not because of that. We all have parts on wiki and I wouldnt want to take yours. I wouldnt want to make you feel like you are useless or not wanted you know <3 --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 20:11, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Pfff. I should ask for a raise. talk 20:20, 23 June 2020 (UTC)

Bestiary subcategories

Two things: Firstly, seeing those new categories I'm seeing a couple of subcategories that will only ever have 1 page in them (e.g. Colossus) - I'd avoid bothering with subcategories for anything that will only have one file in it.

Secondly, if creating subcategories for the bestiary screenshot category, just put them in [[Category:Bestiary screenshots]], no need to put them also in [[Category:Screenshots]]. --Chieftain Alex 21:32, 30 October 2020 (UTC)

Ok you inspired me to have a go at the rest - this will be extremely helpful for the shared model project, so good job getting it kicked off. Pretty much done with the bot run, just finishing off Norn and Sylvari now. -Chieftain Alex 13:08, 31 October 2020 (UTC)

NPC Locations

"Also forgot to add, you cannot just decide and go start using a template that would affect 15 000 npcs on a whim. If you are so adamant, go to Community portal and make a thread before you go ham." I agree with Sime fully. Do not going on a editing spree on things that were already decided against, not once, but twice of which you well know. Bring it up on the community portal, but please stop for now. - Do_odleplex 02:24, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Not gonna happen and you know it . For 3-4 years I was your lap dog doing as I was told and it got us nowhere. We both know that unless someone starts doing something, nothing would ever happend here. You could see it with the images. There was a chaos and nobody wanted to touch it before. After me we have few others who are even now sorting them into subcategories. If you guys are scared of work or progress then so be it but Im not. Wiki is from players to palyers. You can ban me or undo everything. Im gonna just make a new account with new ip to work on it again. Look on my page and read the Character section. I was trying to be usefull by looking over wiki to find things which could be improved. Some people supported me and some didnt. The biggest problem of wiki are you guys. I cant fix that in any way . The only way for me is to walk around any way I can think of. You had your choice to do something yet for 3-4 years nothing. Im not gonna wait another 3-4 years will you make your decision --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 02:31, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

I asked you to stop and work with the community, but as per your actions and response, you've been banned for one week. This wiki is a community, we work together. Sometimes yes, we do strike out on our own and do things, like the Shared Model project, but I didn't create it before asking first, asking others for their opinions. I want you to take this week off to think about how to work better with the community. - Do_odleplex 03:20, 10 December 2020 (UTC)

Notes on Scribe recipes

Hello. I noticed you've been mass editing Scribe recipes, in particular removing the notes about the timing with the assembly device on banner and siege schematics. I tested many of these and that information is correct. Is there a particular reason for removing that note? The assembly device timing is not included on the main Scribing page, and probably shouldn't be - it would be lost on a page with that much information. I can see how it might seem redundant to have it on all of the pages, but I imagine those schematic pages are used frequently enough by Scribes who actively make those for their guilds. Muirellthe Moon 05:39, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

I've noticed one where we had "will take 24 hours" even. Some didnt even had this information at all. There was an update long time ago where any recipe in Assembly Device would not require resonance anymore as well as every timer was cut to 30s crafting time. Yes it does feel a bit redundant and I would rather have that information on Assembly Device page insted because its a feature or ability of the device itself and not the recipes. Then you also need to take in mind that this intofmation doesnt also aplly on banners and siege schematics but also on decorations and other things. I would love to just add it into the Item infobox template for every schematic but there are also some recipes which will skip the Assembly Device all together. I want to take a look on the Assembly Device page as well and check all the informations still. Ofcorse if you dont agree with me just let know any of the admins and we can always undo it. Just carful because those banners were changed because of their use in next recipes. Dont belive Ive changed notes there but I might be wrong now. --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 06:25, 26 December 2020 (UTC)

Hey, I'm sorry I didn't respond sooner, things kind of got away from me and the Wiki went on the backburner for a bit. As long as the information is on a page somewhere for easy reading I don't mind where it is. :) Muirellthe Moon 07:30, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

yo

Thanks for giving me a prod whilst I was doing WvW the other night. I've had a think about what the data is telling me and have replied on the template talk page again.

I didn't realise you were on SFR/Blacktide. -Chieftain Alex 23:54, 30 December 2020 (UTC)

Well better late then never. Im on SFR with my sweetheart but lately she doesnt play anymore. Trying to farm skirmish tickets for legendary ring without effects. For a pacifist it can be really hard but not impossible. Sneaking around or repairing --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 10:54, 31 December 2020 (UTC)

Deletion requestes

When you mark files for deletion they should not be in use anymore. —Kvothe (talk) 14:00, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

I wasnt deleting them but marking them to be judged if we want to delete them or not. Just sax yes and Im gonna delete them all myself. --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 20:37, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

For icons it is really simple. It is the same? Yes. Ok, remove any usage or links to the file. Then mark for deletion. —Kvothe (talk) 23:36, 9 January 2021 (UTC)

Nobody forced you to do it . Nobody forced you to even look at it. Your decision not to ignore it and not to leave it for me later. Cry me a river really. --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 15:07, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Sorry. Im just a bit ...3rd 12h night shift can do a lot. 😞--DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 18:03, 10 January 2021 (UTC)

Toxic Seedling map

I moved the map to this subpage. —Kvothe (talk) 22:49, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

Why ? The page might be deleted at the end and we might just make an new image insted of File:Toxic Seedling map.jpg. Why do you always .. vrrr ! It might end up even as template based on the groups of those locations. Alright just dont link it to anything yet . Its not done .. its not finished. Alright ? --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 23:28, 16 January 2021 (UTC)

If you wanna test something and/or you know the stuff will get eventually deleted, you know you should do it in your sandbox. ~Sime 14:27, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Hey wellcome on wiki where everything will change one day. Its not in my sandbox because everyone who wants can join and add their own attempts. Even you can go into Kessex Hills yourself. If you get a new Ip then you know those nodes are in diferent places . Run around and make a screanshot of all of them before adding it into the map. I Cant predict future so yes I have no clue if you guys will want to remake it into image only or if we will want to make it a bit more complex and make a template from it showing just those specific groups of nodes depending on the one players will click on. I have no idea. --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 16:22, 17 January 2021 (UTC)

Bindings

Hey. I've noticed you seem to be in the progress of removing the bindings from a few pages currently. I was thinking to do that as a bot task during the stream by ANet today (which is probably in like 5 minutes) and am currently preparing page counts and the changes for a bot request. Before i continue doing that however i wanted to ask if you want to continue to go through everything now that you started or if i could do what i can with the bot once i've completed preparation? (I'm missing a bit of old item data so i can't check for changes on 297 items but what i've found on changes concerns 593 items (this is possibly including some you already changed).) Nightsky (talk) 19:55, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

I want to add that a note the food used to be bound would be nice. ~Sime 20:03, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

If you want toadd more go ahead and add it. Here for better way of looking over what I have done. And if zou have bots for it then sure use them. If it will work. --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 20:32, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

I was only looking to remove the account bound parameter from them, not add a note they were previously bound. And while i'm generally not opposed to the idea of adding one, i would for example not know how to best do so on pages with multiple items on them. Additionally the way things are now changing it to also add a note and not only remove things would take me longer than i'd be willing to do now. So if anything i'd only be removing them for now but i'm still waiting on a clear response from DiegoDeLaHouska if they'd be fine with me doing that or if they want to continue doing it? With only removing that is, not adding anything. Nightsky (talk) 20:45, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Do as you wish. I looked at it just because nobody was touching it. If you will take care of it then sure be my guest ;) Wiki is ever changing and updates what I will do might last years or just minutes. Doesnt mater in any way to me anymore. --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 20:53, 22 January 2021 (UTC)

Damage coefficent

The tooltip damage is calculated using your current weapon strength, your power, the damage coefficient and 2597 armor:

damage = (weapon strength * power * coefficient) / armor

So in order to get the coefficient we have to calculate the following:

coefficient = (damage * 2597) / (weapon strength * power)

While we know the damage (from the tooltip), the power (e.g. 1000), we do not know the weapon strength. However, if we link the skill in the chat, it assumes the unequipped weapon strenght of 690.5. Thus, we can calculate the damage coefficient.

coefficient = (damage * 2597) / (690.5 * 1000)

• Example 1: Fire Spin has a damage of 1462, so 1462 * 2597 / (690.5 * 1000) = 5.4986 ~ 5.5. Make sure that your rounded coefficient actually gives the damage: (690.5 * 1000 * 5.5) / 2597 = 1462.36 ~ 1462.
• Example 2: Flame Cannon with a damage: 17,540 from 20 strikes, first divide 17540 / 20 = 877, then 877 * 2597 / (690.5 * 1000) = 3.2984 ~ 3.3. Afterwards, multiply with the number of strikes, i.e. 3.3 * 20 = 66.0 damage coefficient!

--Tolkyria (talk) 23:38, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Drop rate - from 0 to ... 60? in many, many seconds

On the Box of WvW Supplies/Drop rate page you added helpful data on 25 April, 2021, but the number of boxes given was 0, which makes the evaluating odds of drops errant. Do you know how many boxes you opened for this data? If not, would it be okay with you if I linearly extrapolate your data to estimate the number of boxes you opened and use that number? Thank you for your consideration and your many contributions to the Wiki! Jesself (talk) 07:25, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

21-28 or so. --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 08:28, 16 May 2021 (UTC)

Marking images for deletion

Please leave a link to the duplicate when you mark an image for deletion. E.g. {{delete|Duplicate of [[File:Awakened Chest 2.jpg]]}}. —Kvothe (talk) 09:56, 13 August 2021 (UTC)

Once again, please add a reason to your delete requests. —Kvothe (talk) 21:21, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

I dint touched images for weeks now. All I marked today were 3 redirects that someone forgot to delete --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 21:28, 20 March 2022 (UTC)

This goes for delete requests in general. Please use unnamed parameter one to explain delete request. —Kvothe (talk) 12:30, 21 March 2022 (UTC)

Once again - in case of redundant images please link to the other image. Thanks. —Kvothe (talk) 12:07, 9 June 2022 (UTC)

Objects that share models

You recently changed Descendant's Chest to use File:Chest long yellow.jpg instead of File:Descendant's Chest.jpg. However, Decendant's Chest.jpg was already a screenshot of this chest in situ; replacing it with a screenshot of a chest that shares the same model but not the same location does not improve this article. If anything, it makes the less helpful. Perhaps ensuring that each of these articles has a screenshot of the chest in its location context is not a high priority. However, where these images already exist, I ask that you not throw them away. -- Dashface 05:33, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

You know what ? No. We are sorting those images and if its messing with your personal project then Im sorry but we will not stop in doing it. You know we cant even delete any images just mark them for those who do have those powers to judge. Both images shows the same model so there is no reason to keep both just because its showing few more pixels of wooden floor around it. I would understand if the image would show more around it like we have from chests in raids or any other guides. But both of these images are just images of the same model with nothing around it at all. --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 06:29, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

I agree with Diego that the current image doesn't really show much of anything around the chest so there's no need to keep it around. Nonetheless, there is a previous version of the image which does a better job at showing the room it is in, but of course there is the tradeoff that the chest itself is smaller. I believe the wiki prioritizes getting larger/clearer pictures of the model rather than showing what is around the object. --BuffsEverywhere (talk) 07:32, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

One wants me to clean the image from all links so it can be easily deleted. Another one doesnt want that. There are 2 options really. Join in and help us with those images. I can even make you a special category where we will always add those we consider as duplicates so you can talk about them with others all day long . Or the other option would be to get out of our way. Its up to you :3 --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 08:20, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

My objection here is that effort is being expended to make our documentation worse. This is about objects for which we already have the images of the subject in context. The benefit of a clearer image is less than the benefit of having an object it its original context. (This is also an issue with the Shared Models Project, but at least most of those models aren't stationary and could be seen in a variety of contexts and locations.)

There's a 1997 episode of Seinfeld that might help explain via a metaphor: George sees himself in the background of a family photo from a 1989 beach trip Kruger keeps in his office. George fears he will be fired once Kruger recognizes him from the photo. Kramer suggests sneaking the photo out and getting George's image airbrushed out. However, the clerk mistakenly airbrushes out Kruger instead. He takes a [replacement] photo of Kruger, but finds a mole on Kruger's shoulder. George suggests Kruger see a dermatologist about his mole, but Kruger reasons that because the mole looks the same in the 1989 photo [not knowing that it has been replaced], it cannot be harmful."

Today's wiki screenshots are tomorrow's wiki archaeology. When models or locations change, or are suspected to have changed, we can compare the screenshots to find out. It's difficult to know how many mistakes have already been made here with the Shared Models Project.

In addition to this: The Descendant's Chest article is the perfect place for a screenshot of a Descendant's Chest. For posterity, one day when the chest can't be visited, this is what this corner of the world looked like. Anyone who visits the article isn't going to benefit more by seeing a screenshot of the same model somewhere else, even if that screenshot shows the model more clearly.

I don't have the energy or inclination to fight you to the ends of the earth on this. But I want you to seriously reconsider these kinds of image replacements, especially where the work has already been done. -- Dashface 08:30, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

I wonder how big is the population of people interested in seeing objects in their original locations in the case they get removed/changed. The vast majority of the userbase has a more pragmatic approach to the wiki. Some cases that come to mind are how in the festival pages, the tables listing the avilability of activities are being updated to "guides" of stuff to do and farm (which are really nice @Sime!). Personally, when I helped create chests in Drizzlewood Coast, the first thing I did was look up chests to see if I could simplify work by reusing their high quality screenshots and it took a bit of digging around to find one with a good one. Now that they're all in the same category it'd be more convenient for possible future chests. As for indicating location, as I mentioned in Discord, a more explicit way would be either with coordinates (similar to the NPC Coordinates project) or with a map screenshot, especially those chests with the same name but various spawn locations. In my opinion, while it's charming having unique screenshots with a bit of their especific scenery, in practical terms the Shared Model project is more suitable. Myriada (talk) 11:15, 17 August 2021 (UTC)

Category:Sorting

I'm not entirely sure what your end goal here, Seraph screenshots shouldn't have any sort of subgroup based on weapons or what not. That was just for the project's organization, to make it a category is over categorizing things. That and using a Sandbox page with a "to do" list is probably better for sorting things, that's how I did it. - Do_odleplex 23:04, 20 August 2022 (UTC)

That category was just ment to help me sort the rest. But its alright you can move them back and delete the category if you like. I quit anyway. Im done. It took me over 2h to be done with 1 image finding all the duplicates and checking it in the game. You guys would never understand how important it is to keep it seperated yet everytime Im working on it someone has a problem with it. Someone who never tried it themselfs and will never know how painful it can be. --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 09:19, 21 August 2022 (UTC)

"Extra Life" Panther's wiki image

Hey, thank you for taking the time to screencap a nice shot of Panther - I would have preferred if you'd reached out first. I know that changes by others are an inevitable part of the wiki's nature, and I realize now that the original image isn't up to wiki standards - but this particular NPC is named after my own cat, I am admittedly very attached, and I would have appreciated a message about this change beforehand. I will post a new image that's more in-line with wiki standards within the day. Please reach out via my talk page or on Discord if you'd like to discuss. Thanks for understanding. -- Dalennau (talk) 22:30, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Yeah sure. I just got a list of NPCs in the game that I could update so I went to town. Took me few hours to have it perfect as the rest of them. Just a small thing. If you wish for it to stay that way better to write a note to that image. At least that way everyone in the future will know ;) --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 22:34, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

I'll add a note to the next image for sure. Thank you! -- Dalennau (talk) 22:52, 5 November 2022 (UTC)

Memory of Old Lion's Arch pages

You are removing historical stuff from the Memory of Old Lion's Arch pages and thus the info is missing from the wiki, are you planning on creating historical pages to move the stuff there? ~Sime 18:30, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

To expand: Please do not simply remove information. Most (if not all) of the information you've removed from the Memory of Old Lion's Arch pages are from LA during Season 2 era and should be moved back to the <location>/historical pages (without the (Memory of Old Lion's Arch) prefix, e.g., Fort Marriner/historical) and not deleted. Konig (talk) 18:32, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Alright lets start with the easy one. The Subdirector Blingg that zou changed after me. Was told years back that we do not add PoI to Npcs locations or the Npcs to the PoI pages. A rule that I follow no matter if its historical information or not. Everyone see it diferently and that is alright. Ive changed a lot of Npcs lately but I do belive this one was the only one who had PoI there. Now about the area pages. The update is here for month now. Ive looked over the Battle, story, strike mission and even did the legendary weapons that were added later on. You had plenty of time to look at it yourself if you so much care about the historical information but nothing. Some pages were not marked at all and some were marked with rewriten or clean up teplates wich I did. I have cleand up the pages (except Npcs and Dialogue section) so players would know what they can and cant find there. The information that you seek so much isnt lost . You can take a look into history of the page to see your historical information you want. Ive spend whole night working on it while chating with Mr.Green in the game. Even said myself that yes there is a mess but it doesnt feel really right to do and that Sime will come for me. Yet was given permission to do it anyway. So if you want I can go over all the changes for Npcs and Areas and send you a .txt file on discord if you want. I have no problems with that. But as I said before I do have problems seen what is historical information and what isnt. Especialy when it looks like the pages were copy/paste from diferent pages from diferent maps making a huge mess from it. --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 21:22, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

I was specifically referring to the removal of information on pages like Postern Ward (Memory of Old Lion's Arch). You removed a bunch of NPCs. And it's minor, but it is worth noting that you can uncover PoI from LA in the Memory of Old Lion's Arch at the original locations - PoI of the same id get uncovered with current names, and vanish from world map after uncovering. It's fine to remove these from the pages, but as mentioned, they should be added to a /historical subpage of the base page, to denote that's what was there in those areas during Season 2. It's just easier to do a copy/paste when you remove it, than to dig through after the changes are made.

"The information that you seek so much isnt lost . You can take a look into history of the page to see your historical information you want." No. Just No. There is not a single average wiki user who will do this. Nor should we expect them to. We who are regularly editing the wiki will be familiar with this, but you are basically saying "oh the information is there you just have to know the very specific method and dig through dozens of links to find the information you're looking for instead of letting it be plainly displayed." Or "it's not hidden, it's just in a list of 500+ other completely unrelated articles." So just No. And what happens when the page gets deleted and the history purged and no one realized it because it's buried under a god damned mountain of minor edits (and important edits marked as minor because people just default that check)? And yeah, that's happened already more than once. Konig (talk) 22:04, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Well then Im glad you are not an "average wiki user". You can do it :3. It might be really easy for you to look over the information and make it clear before the histroy log will be cleared or something ;) --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 22:14, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

Not sure what Greener had told you but I doubt he gave you the approval to just remove information. For example, many npcs you removed are just not linked anywhere now. The wiki never simply removed historical information, and I do not think you really want to start doing that now. ~Sime 22:21, 4 December 2022 (UTC)

So have you came up with an idea what to do with it and how to do it. How I could help with it ? --DiegoDeLaHouska (talk) 19:31, 10 December 2022 (UTC)