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They will become more general MMORPG attributes, so you wont have Blood magic, even if its renamed.(However the skills may still exist.) ;) --AdventurerPotatoe 10:42, 7 July 2010 (UTC)

Source? As far as I know, we know nothing of attributes, except that the word was answered. -- Konig/talk 22:38, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
mentioned here Venom20 [User_talk:Venom20] 23:23, 7 July 2010 (UTC)
Still, I'm curious as to why this was posted on my talk page... -- Konig/talk 01:37, 8 July 2010 (UTC)
Sorry, for not returning here after I wrote that, but I see you figured out what I meant anyways. ;) --AdventurerPotatoe User A F K When Needed Potato icon.jpg - 13:35, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Rise of a Lich, Fall of Gods

I just read the first bit of it, it's very interesting :) --AlbinoAce 04:53, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Glad people like it. (hope you don't mind but I retitled this section due to this). -- Konig/talk 05:02, 11 July 2010 (UTC)


Preliminary version located here. A test of it is located here. Do you like it like that? Do you want it to center? Is there anything else you'd want done to it? --Naoroji User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 17:41, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

PS. If you ask really nicely (and of course, if you'd want it), I could change the colours of all the icons to fit your background colour and then edit the box so that the background colour is the same all the time (to fit with your background moar) but that'd take a bit more work :). And I'm not able to get on the wiki consistently for another two weeks, so,... Yeah, well, just think about it :P. --Naoroji User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 18:10, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
If by icon background you mean this, then transperant is good enough. But if you mean the background of the template (which matches the profession), then please because what I'll be using this template for will be for non-game characters (thus, technically they may not even have professions). Though I can do with a bunch of grays. I got time to spare anyways. But one thing I need to be rid of is that blasted * affect you got for that one line description. Because I can easily turn that one line description into a multiple line one but that dot is bugging me when trying to do that. Grrr. (nvm removing it meself) -- Konig/talk 19:33, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Looking over the coding, I think I can take care of everything myself. Except for one thing. The border is still curved. <insert face showing my hatred of curved borders>. Gonna see if I can figure out how to fix that...-- Konig/talk 19:35, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Ah! I figured the border thing out. It looks like everything I need is done *steals and puts into my own userspace* -- Konig/talk 19:41, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
What I meant was: The icons. Not the background of the icons, but the icons themselves, should I make those fit your backgroundcolour? (Thus change the Warrior icon/Ele icon/Assassin icon w/e into a same shade of cyan?). And sorry I didn't respond earlier, am watching the football finals :) (Also, just a heads up; it's border, not boarder :P). --Naoroji User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 19:59, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Meh @ spelling (fixed!). And no need, I think. Though I think I may upload the runic designs and set up the thing to fit those into the tmeplate instead of the uglier (imo) ones, leaving nothing for the profession-less cases. But that's for another time. I think for now the template is good. -- Konig/talk 20:05, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Glad I could help. Somewhat :P. You still did most of the work in the end. But, it looks nice :). --Naoroji User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 20:07, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Can you check

I think I have the show/hide to work on my pages, but can you check? Sometimes they seem to work, sometimes they don't. Thank you! Ariyen 18:11, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

They're always working for me. Loaded the page 5 times since you got it to work yesterday night (once then, four times just now). -- Konig/talk 19:18, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Ah, cool. Thank you. You can look at the code if you want and copy, etc. But I think I figured it out. I got it on my characters page (and each page of the character themselves), and my main page.Ariyen 19:35, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
I've already tried copying your code along with copying a code from elsewhere. It's the bloody template I use. I gotta rework the whole darn thing. -- Konig/talk 19:36, 11 July 2010 (UTC)


Haha, I actually reverted myself right when you did. --User Phnzdvn sig.pnghnzdvn 01:27, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

about Blimm in ghost of ascalon

the catacomb belong (belonged to since he died) Blimm it got confirm in chapter 2 and 3 Tech Wolf-Talk 22:49, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

If this were so (I'll remain sceptical), the wording was terribly off: "The story begins with their exploration of Blimm catacomb underneath Divinity's Reach." - it should either be "the Blimm Catacombs" "Blimm's catacombs" or something of that like. What is there is currently incorrect grammar. -- Konig/talk 23:19, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

blood stone

We have no knowledge if the stone even exists on the ring of fire island chain or if it exists at all. There is no point in making pages unless we actually know stuff exists. Otherwise all we will be doing is linking stuff to gw1. Emmisary 01:18, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

It does exist there. I doubt anyone would move it. And if someone did happen to move it, then we can change the note. Something isn't going to disappear into non-existence. This isn't WoW here. -- Konig/talk 01:31, 17 July 2010 (UTC)

Thanks to you

I can't read the wiki, cause it will spoil the book.  ;-) --User Phnzdvn sig.pnghnzdvn 04:49, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

I have only added the most least-spoiler-ific facts - backgrounds of individuals and locations mentioned. Besides, it would happen sooner or later. -- Konig/talk 04:56, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Battle of Ascalon City

Your addition said that Adelbern was the last human, but that there were apparently some humans left to flee to Ebonhawke. Also, I'm not sure where you got the information on the clash between the lone Adelbern and the charr causing Foefire. I've reverted it for now. Can you provide a link so we can word it better or something? 'preciate it. --Kyoshi User Kyoshi sig.png (Talk) 06:13, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

It's safe to say that the article was fine, perhaps you've misread it. Adelbern being the last human on the battlefield, and the inhabitants (not the human army) in and around Ascalon fleeing to Ebonhawke. The source is obviously the book, as to all his other newly pages and edits. At least, this is how I'm reading all his recent contributions. ge4ce 06:42, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Yup, he appears to have the book, now I'll have to keep myself from the wiki so as to not spoil anything for myself in the RC channel, or looking over new pages.--Corsair@Yarrr 06:48, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
The information comes from the book. Apparently all the humans in the battle were killed. There were humans elsewhere who became refugees in Ebonhawke. The place was set up 10 years prior to the battle after all. There's much more from the book that would be non-spoiler (i.e., general information or historical information on/from the book), but I figured I should wait before adding more. I'm gonna have to re-read it (been reading it straight, excluding the times I spent updating/checking Guru2 for spoiler posts in the lore forum to add spoiler tags to them/getting pulled away from the book for housework/food/bathroom) when I do though. -- Konig/talk 08:20, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
In fact, there is an interesting line about the Foefire/spirits/that day: "It affected everywhere in the nation but Ebonhawke itself." - Essentially, the only humans to have survived the Foefire are those who were in Ebonhawke. Though I believe that to be an exaggeration. -- Konig/talk 08:38, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Reading further into the book, there is a second tale - the charr's side of the story - which says that Adelbern went made and cast a spell matching the description of the Ecology (flaming sword appearing then flames sweeping the city) and killed fleeing Ascalonians as the Flame Legion's imperator assaulted the city... How annoying. -- Konig/talk 10:11, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Well in any case, my bad, carry on. --Kyoshi User Kyoshi sig.png (Talk) 03:48, 26 July 2010 (UTC)

GW2 Prof Predictions

I agree completely, especially with Neco + Rit, probably Summoner, or Shaman something like that Zachariah Zuan. 22:22, 27 July 2010 (UTC)

Actually, those are outdated due to the book. Necromancer will not be renamed - neither will the mesmer. Their names have been used multiple times already, especially the former. I believe the third adventurer, what Kranxx is from Ghosts of Ascalon, is some form of cowboy/wild western feel profession that utilizes gadgets. Still stick with an assassin-variant for the second adventurer, but add guns to it. -- Konig/talk 03:36, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I haven't read it yet, do they specifically state the profession as Necromancer or Mesmer? or just use it as a term to describe them? either way Assassin with guns.. i'm making Solid Snake xD Zachariah Zuan. 13:34, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Knight being a paragon doesn't make much sense in terms of a name change...Knight...along with ninja is a misunderstood word. a Knight rides on horse back, and usually is a crusader IF in case there is a prof named knight it will be a mounted warrior type that may be an adventurer due to its steed, and will have limited armor. IF there is a paragon type prof it will be the one with the extra pet. Now for this "rouge type" It would most likely be NOT called a Ninja as discreetly stated, in medevil Japan ninja were pirates and bandits often called "Wakou" there may be a profession named Wakou in honor of them but most certainly not be ninja as Samurai were the true you might say "imperial" class of japan.Which btw is a possibility for a soldier class BUT not related to the rouge type. I saw a thing in the GDC of a what looked to be a paladin type person with a pistol at the side and sword as well as a blue aura. Hopefully this is the "knight".--Drewlark 99 (1337) User Drewlark99 Shield Stance.jpg 16:03, 28 July 2010 (UTC)

Firstly, Killeen is a necromancer and mesmers are put alongside elementalists and "other proprietors" (i.e., magic users). As for the knight - Anet has stated that if a profession gets a significant amount of changes it will get a name change. I believe this to have happened to paragons in both mechanics and lore - they are no longer "chosen of the gods" but rather "heroes of the people" (most likely scenario) and they don't use spears as their weapon (since it doesn't exist except maybe in environmental weapons) and they probably don't focus solely on shouts but rather a combination of things. Knight, how I use it, is the same as a crusader in how the Vigil uses the term - a fighter. Knight, however, is a profession while cruder is a rank (it seems - might be a role). Furthermore, knights are "heavy armor fighters with xyz niche to differenciate from the warrior." Knights do not need horses, just so you know. Yes, knights are known for horses but the horses do not define them as horses were merely a way to get around (and of course, armor can be heavy so long distances would be even more tiring for knights than other people at that time, which is why they utilized horses so much).
As to the ninja thing - I never stated that it will be called a ninja (I said "in looks only!"). I in fact hope it won't be called such as that would be even worse in naming/looks than the GW1 assassin. In feudal Japan (there was no medieval Japan), the ninja was a hired killer who utilized stealth. The only similarity I see between that and the GW2 assassin-variant (no longer called assassin) is that they'll utilize stealth. The only similarities the GW1 assassin has with a ninja is the naming of attributes (shadow/deadly arts) and that they are hired killers.
As to the concept art from the GDC, you'll have to link to that, as I don't know what you're talking about. this is the only thing I see that has a blue "aura." -- Konig/talk 20:43, 28 July 2010 (UTC)
I didn't read the book so forgive me if my comment is stupid but couldn't Kranxx be an alchemist? Chriskang 09:29, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Certainly possible, but he didn't seem to me to be one who solely worked with chemicals. Either way - alchemist is most definably unlikely to be a GW2 profession. The only place it would have is as an adventurer, and it certainly doesn't sound like one. -- Konig/talk 09:42, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

Hey i'm talking about history so don't beat up on me, I was saying typically a knight is mounted from history.... And knowing a-net they most likely would make it accurate.--Drewlark 99 (1337) User Drewlark99 Shield Stance.jpg 23:15, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

Not really, considering all the many things they take from mythology and the like are very much not accurate to their origins. Prime examples being dwarves, naga, tengu, Abaddon, and so forth. -- Konig/talk 23:20, 18 August 2010 (UTC)
Knights were generally nobles given areas of land by lords, which they obviously protected because it was their livelihood. Samurai were horseback bowmen with a position similar to knights. Ninjas began as rebels, not assassins. Also, I highly doubt any existence of a mounted profession; the closest thing we will get to mounts are forms. -~=Ϛρѧякγ User Sparky, the Tainted guided sig.png (τѧιк) 23:51, 18 August 2010 (UTC)

And while I am at it...

...The fact that you believe the edit summary is the proper place where to discuss an article is actually being detrimental (more than usual, even), since now you're willing to add spoilers in said summaries. More specifically, the fact that Ember's grandmother is the leader of the Vigil is one of the last revelations of Ghosts of Ascalon, yet you unnecessarily decided to hint at such fact in an edit summary which could easily be seen by anyone looking at the recent changes. Don't add spoilers like that (regardless of if you think they are spoilers or not) to edit summaries. Erasculio 03:12, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

I never said who her grandma was or the like. And I quite disagree that the quotations "add style" - and how other charr are fearful of Rytlock would be rather interesting to note, I'd have to say. But then again, I didn't add that, I just rephrased it. Also, one thing about a change is not warrent to undo everything without reason. -- Konig/talk 04:14, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
And again here, which is a spoiler about something a few chapters into the book. There's no reason to describe the plot of GoA on edit summaries; if you would like to talk about something in an article, you could do the more reasonable thing and use the talk page instead. Erasculio 15:22, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
That bit was in the bloody article, it's not that big of a spoiler anyways. I was explaining why Naut's change is wrong, and I would of sounded like an ass if I didn't. For the love of god, please stop trying to pick a fight with me. -- Konig/talk 15:55, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
"it's not that big of a spoiler anyways": which means it's a spoiler.
"and I would of sounded like an ass if I didn't": when trying to talk about an article, it may be a good idea to use the talk page.
I'm not trying to pick a fight with you. I'm trying to stop someone from doing something detrimental to other users (by rubbing spoilers at the face of people who are simply looking at the Recent Changes) for no good reason (since you could make those comments at the article's talk page) and refusing to do something very simple to avoid it (is it that harder to simply state the same thing at a talk page instead of at the edit summary?). Erasculio 20:01, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
On a side-note; why would one look up these articles about characters and whatnot in the book on the Wiki, PRIOR to finishing the book itself. If they want to know, they'll look it up. If they don't want to know I doubt they'll be skimming the RC for edit summaries in case someone accidentally put up spoilers.
EDIT: And creating a discussion about it will only entice people into being spoiled by accident. - Infinite - talk 21:39, 2 August 2010 (UTC)
As an avid RC stalker (with a very large watchlist) without the book, I don't want to see spoilers in edit summaries. I fully expect them to be in articles, which is why I'm avoiding most GoA-related content; I also expect the discussions on those talk pages to include spoilers, so I avoid them too. pling User Pling sig.png 22:39, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I hardly see how stating Ember has a grandmother is a spoiler, nor do I see how stating that what Naut put is incorrect a spoiler either. I never said who Ember's grandmother was, nor hinted at it beyond being in the Blood Legion - which only narrows it down to, oh I dunno, 75% of the charr - assuming the four high legions are of near equal size. Then halve that for it being female. Still nothing to connect her grandmother to Ember. For the Riona thing, I never said who "they" was, and simply stating "left while on patrol" isn't a huge spoiler. Especially since it is brought up in chapter 6 - fairly early in the book. And besides, if people don't want spoilers, they shouldn't be at the wiki. The wiki itself is a spoiler. Once the game comes out, what will you do, remove all spoilers that come out? Impossible, they'll get documented again and again - you'll just cause edit wars. -- Konig/talk 06:16, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

Before I reply to those (absurd) arguments, answer one thing: do you have any good reason at all to make those comments at the edit summaries instead of using the articles' talk pages? Erasculio 10:39, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
I can reply for that Eras; It's much quicker... And also, that is what the Summary is for. To justify your edits... Otherwise, as Konig put it; you can look like quite an arse. --Naut User Naut Dark Blue Monk.png 10:54, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Thank you Naut. That is exactly why I put notes in the edit summary, because that's where it is meant to go. Unless, of course, the note is long and I cannot shorten it in which I simply go "See talk page" and make a note there. It's to prevent myself from becoming an ass, which others seem to not care about. -- Konig/talk 16:13, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
"That is exactly why I put notes in the edit summary, because that's where it is meant to go": Ah, so instead of using the edit summaries for a summary of the edit, you would rather use it to talk about an article's content, instead of using said article's talk page. Do I really need to point the flaw in that kind of reasoning?
"It's to prevent myself from becoming an ass": right. Konig, let me explain it to you slowly so you can actually understand it: Your options are not between changing an article without explaining why or adding spoilers to the Recent Changes page. Your options are, in other hand, between adding spoilers to the Recent Changes page or explaining why you are editing an article at said article's talk page. The claim that you would be forced to leave a change unexplained unless you used the edit summary is (rather obviously) false, and thus has no weight in your arguments. The only reason left for you to use the edit summaries instead of talk pages is because "It's much quicker"; which means, you are doing something that is detrimental to other users (as Pling mentioned above) just in order to do something the lazy way.
"f people don't want spoilers, they shouldn't be at the wiki": oh, right. So you think those users who have not read Ghosts of Ascalon yet and don't want to be spoiled should just leave the wiki? That's a great way to help a community improve. Likewise, do you really think that someone who has just bought Nightfall should not look at the GW1W's list of ranger skill unless he were willing to read spoilers about the end of that chapter?
"Once the game comes out, what will you do, remove all spoilers that come out? Impossible, they'll get documented again and again - you'll just cause edit wars": again, let me say it in details so you actually understands it: our options are not between adding spoilers to the wiki or not adding spoilers anywhere. Our single reasonable option is to add spoilers about a subject on that subject's article (and its talk page), nowhere else, and definitely not on something visible to all users, such as the main page or recent changes. Therefore, the claim that we would have to "remove all spoilers that come out" is completely ludicrous.
Regardless, I doubt you are going to admit you did something wrong. I'm just going to ask the admins to tell you to stop adding spoilers to edit summaries, and ask them to hide the spoilers you already added there. Erasculio 22:26, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
Stay tuned next week, for another episode of; QUOTE WAAAARSSS!!
Also, C-C-C-C-C-COMBO BREAKER! --Naoroji User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 22:33, 3 August 2010 (UTC)
I realize this attempt is probably futile, but I'll give it a shot.
@Konig: while I know your intentions are probably good from my experience chatting with you, there's no ass-ness to putting "see talk page" in the edit summary. You can even say "see talk page: SPOILER WARNING" if you want. If people care about the content that you reverted, they'll probably look; if they don't look they'll revert and you'll talk it out with them, as usual for anyone who reverts without looking. I know it's not the simplest way to go about editing, but when you play on the back-end of wikis or programs or whatever, the important thing is convenience for users. You can take a few seconds and jot your note down on the talk page; it's not a big deal.
That said...
@Eras: You are blowing this way out of proportion. There's no need to attack Konig to the extent you are, and implicitly insulting a user's intelligence ("let me explain it to you slowly") several times in the same post is not an appropriate way to go about discussion. Cool it.
And as a general note, concerning spoilers: we'll have to document some of them of course (just in case you weren't exaggerating, Eras), particularly those in-game. I'm sure we'll have a {{spoiler}} tag for it eventually. For now, like Eras has suggested, we can keep it to the mainspace and talk pages, so people don't accidentally happen upon them. --Kyoshi User Kyoshi sig.png (Talk) 00:05, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) In a hope to drop this: I didn't discuss the article in either edit summary. I was stating my changes and why. Yes, that can be viewed by some as discussing the article, and in a way it is, but I didn't put spoilers in the summary nor was I with the intent of having a discussion - which requires two. It was a monologue at best.
Yes, I do think those who don't want to have a story spoiled should leave the wiki. I did until I got the book (which I thankfully got before others) and I kept the spoilers out until it was officially released. Excluding those less fortunate, those who wanted the book would have gotten the book (btw, I linked to draxynnic because he is in Australia thus the book isn't released until mid-August). I have every intention to avoid the wiki once other books come out and when the game comes out until I know enough to not be bothered with spoilers. I suspect everyone else would do such as well. Pling is another unfortunate, but unfortunate in the same sense that I cannot leave either Guru alone - we both moderate, to some degree, fan sites and as such cannot leave said sites. We in this position have to make do and risk being spoiled. But again, I didn't put spoilers in the summaries - at most, I alluded to potential spoilers. Either way, I'll be sure to not do this again - everyone makes mistakes so please stop shitting down my throat. Whether you say you are or not, you are. Intentional or not. Maybe if you were like this to others, I may not be convinced you're out to get me for whatever reason which I do not know. If you have an issue with me, tell me that issue so we can resolve it instead of having one of us (you) instigate the other (me) in order to spark pointless - yes, pointless; every issue you came at me with was in every way unnecessary and without a point - because this is still getting more and more tiresome.
Era, you are, once more, making a war out of a accidental death (this is meant as a metaphor - there was no killing involved! I swear I'm innocent on that front).
@Kyoshi: I said that I do that. I do that when the summary is too large and I cannot shorten it (unless the changes are not controversial). I hardly see a need to move things to the talk page otherwise. Maybe it's just me and how I was raised, but still. -- Konig/talk 02:08, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

"Either way, I'll be sure to not do this again": thank you. Erasculio 02:27, 4 August 2010 (UTC)
Still not going to solve anything by quoting and saying thank you. It'd be better to apologize for being so hostile Erasculio. Ariyen 03:15, 4 August 2010 (UTC)

You've beaten me

in the spam contribute contest. i take my hat of to you *bow* --NeilUser Neil2250 sig icon5 Anti.png 13:09, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

I wonder if I can get number 1. -- Konig/talk 14:57, 30 July 2010 (UTC)
If you beat copyright. ill be impressed. --NeilUser Neil2250 sig icon5 Anti.png 15:39, 30 July 2010 (UTC)

New Krytan

"Uhm no - human language as in the spoken language. New Krytan is only a written language." Err, what now? Only a written language? Source, or anything to support that theory? We won't actually hear New Krytan, because for convenience's sake, everything will be in English. That doesn't mean, however, that New Krytan doesn't exist as a spoken language. --SirrushUser Sirrush sig.jpg 14:43, 2 August 2010 (UTC)

Ecology of the Charr: "Two hundred years before the Searing, the Burnt warband, a group dedicated to the Flame Legion, ventured to the lands surrounding the Hrangmer volcano (translated to human, the name means “Jaws of Oblivion”)." This states that the language is called "human." We've seen examples of spoken languages being Old Canthan, Old Kurzick, a bit of Elonian, and charr - the first three suggests it's really "Tyrian Human."
Cultural Diffusion in Contemporary Kryta, specifically: "The organization of the Durmand Priory became a primary catalyst for deciding to move forward with a single writing system, which allowed their scholars to compile and catalogue their vast storehouse of knowledge without requiring them all to be fluent in multiple alphabets (although many of their most senior members are multi-lingual in order to read ancient manuscripts, ruins, and other examples of text from the past). Through the Priory’s efforts, and with the skilled negotiations of representatives from all the friendly cultures and races of Tyria, it was decided that a compromise between the various languages would be the best solution. In a landmark decision, with the asura casting the sole dissenting vote, the symbols of Old Krytan were combined with the ease of use of Old Ascalonian, and the New Krytan alphabet was born. The year was 1105 AE."
No where does it ever say New Krytan is a spoken language. In fact, the entire thing is about how writing systems were so devoid of use in the past but when New Krytan was formed by combining the writing systems it became common. It's all about writing, nothing about speaking.
Another way to think about it if everyone spoke the same, but wrote differently. That's the situation on Tyria - though as stated there are some unique spoken languages (Old Kurzick and Old Canthan seem to be very similar as well - implying they were more of dialogues of the same language). -- Konig/talk 14:51, 2 August 2010 (UTC)


Oh, I lol'd so hard ^^. Thanks, Konig. --Naoroji User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 17:16, 3 August 2010 (UTC)

typos are hatefully humorous it seems. ._. -- Konig/talk 18:29, 3 August 2010 (UTC)


You ec'd my self-revert :p. I haven't got very far in the book and I didn't read the article's description before re-adding the image, because I didn't want to potentially spoil the story for myself. After reading the article, I'd agree - the image does fit the description. pling User Pling sig.png 16:10, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Just thought I could note..

..that I am totally blown off by the stories you made there! If this was released as an actual back-story from A-net, I wouldn't even think twice to buy it. Thinking of this, to my understanding the first book should be released and buy-able sometime in 2011, right? If that's the case could you tell me which country/ies you plan to release the book in? I will think about it again, chances are however, I will probably buy it unless it would present shipping issues. As a side note, I think you have a few very minor misspellings there, like here/=hear or loose/=lose, just thought I could point it out. Keep up the good work! ***EAGLEMUT*** TALK 23:03, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

I cannot legally sell my fan fiction. So it will never be released as a book. I call them books because, when finished, they will be the size of books and are structured as novels. -- Konig/talk 23:33, 10 August 2010 (UTC)
Ahh, I wasn't sure about that. Well, my compliments still stand. This means I will go on reading, so I might fix the misspellings as I read through if you want me to and don't mind. ***EAGLEMUT*** TALK 23:38, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

Lore Interviews

Updated with two ZAM interview (at the top). There were a few other articles that contained lore, but none of the info was new (e.g. charr are technological, sylvari are chivalrous, etc.).-- Shew 15:45, 21 August 2010 (UTC)

(late response) Thanks, I got them all now. It's only the lore interview/articles from Gamescom I need now. Too many came, too many went by, I couldn't sort them all q_q -- Konig/talk 21:56, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Ok I took them down sorry

I thought about what you said and decided to take the videos down, you're absolutely right.

Just to prove that I'm being honest, look the videos are gone from the veoh account i was using

Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә User Aliceandsven 3.png ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 07:19, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

They look very much up to me. -- Konig/talk 07:20, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Ok it must have been a bug
I took them off again, look Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә User Aliceandsven 3.png ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 07:25, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
Now you're just trolling. Well, you were trolling before, but now you're being worse. Please leave my talk page. -- Konig/talk 07:27, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
I seriously took them down, stupid veoh! Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә User Aliceandsven 3.png ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 07:28, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

oh wow that is a TOTAL BREACH OF POLICY


way uncool Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә User Aliceandsven 3.png ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 07:34, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Go troll someone else. -- Konig/talk 07:37, 23 August 2010 (UTC)
You are so mean
Mega meany Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ аІiсә User Aliceandsven 3.png ѕνәи Ƹ̵̡Ӝ̵̨̄Ʒ 07:50, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

not working edit

This will work, if you use double brackets instead of triple ones. It's a template, not a parameter. --aRTy 23:13, 24 August 2010 (UTC)

*is still a wiki nub* Thanks. -- Konig/talk 03:52, 25 August 2010 (UTC)

My Birthday Came, My Birthday Went

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Wanted to put this somewhere and my main page isn't that best of a good place for it, since it'll get deleted, not archived. 8D
Yesterday was my birthday (O_O) and I had a class on that day (Q_Q), and I had a not-surprisingly few but surprisingly-more-than-I-expected wishes of "Happy Birthday." It was a nice and quiet day with just the right amount of "Happy Birthday"s - not too many, not too few. I was happy and it was good. :)
P.S. to those few who care to read this, if anyone: Guru1 and Guru2's a day early on their automatic birthday wishes emails. -- Konig/talk 21:59, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Happy Birthday for yesterday Konig :). Hope you had a great day :) Apart from class :P --Naut User Naut Dark Blue Monk.png 22:04, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
... Stalker. -- Konig/talk 22:06, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Hugs kinda sux...HAPPY BIRTHDAY (late...)! Aquadrizzt (talk)(contribs) 22:07, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
-Wink-, Naw I stalk the RC far too much :P --Naut User Naut Dark Blue Monk.png 22:07, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) (Edit conflict) (Edit conflict) (Q_Q)Happy birthday for yesterday konig :D, Hope your day was (reasonably) good.  :P --NeilUser Neil2250 sig icon5 Anti.png 22:08, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Happy birthday! As a side note, school time has not yet begun in my country, we're being lazy :P User ***EAGLEMUT*** Signature.png ***EAGLEMUT*** TALK 22:49, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Hope you had a great birthday. Ariyen 06:19, 2 September 2010 (UTC)


You are correct that the heritage question was not on the demo, however that's a DEMO. Also, it is likely that the heritage effects the appearance of the character. Which ofc was not in the demo, so you never know :/ --Naut User Naut Dark Blue Monk.png 22:37, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

They stated that there are five questions in the biography now (a transcription of the place it was mentioned can be found here), there were fewer, but there are now five. We saw the entire biography - at least in terms of number of questions. -- Konig/talk 22:40, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
I also think you may be jumping the gun on that. As I've said elsewhere, it's quite possible that heritage is involved in appearance customization, which was completely omitted from the demo. This statement: "The extra questions actually exist in the decisions and choices you can make in the game." would seem to imply something along those lines. Arshay Duskbrow 22:56, 29 August 2010 (UTC)
Still they were in the wrong place, to be completely honest. They should be in notes if anywhere and add completely nothing to the page. They are also speculation to keep on there. Until we know if they indeed are returning, I agree with Era's edit on the character creation page where he removed the heritage mention. -- Konig/talk 23:00, 29 August 2010 (UTC)

Tyrian Ghost Walk Short Story Contest

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Just making a little (perhaps unseen?) blog post about the Tyrian Ghost Walk Short Story Contest that I will be helping to judge. Basically, it's a short story contest for ghost stories - no more than 500 words, based in the world of Tyria, and of course has to be 1) including ghosts, 2) making it seem like there is a ghost and it isn't just some campfire story, and 3) preferably scary or saddening.

Do what you want with the stories, we'll choose those we like. I'll just quote the "technical details" from the thread:

"The organizers of the Tyrian Ghost walk will review all submissions and pick the best works for the inclusion in the Tyrian Ghost Walk. Submissions must be received by the closing date of this contest, October 1st. Participants may enter as often as they want to. The organizers of this event reserve the right to edit stories as needed for grammar, to fit the mechanics of the event, and also to suit the atmosphere of the event. Prizes for an accepted story will include a prominent feature in the actual event itself, as guides lavish these ghostly tales upon the tour groups. Audio books as well as the text of these stories will be made available after the event and we are organizing a custom soundtrack to go along with each story. In game prizes are also provided!"

So send in good submissions! See the link above for more details (including how to submit works). -- Konig/talk 10:44, 3 September 2010 (UTC)

Dumb Cat

Why did you create this? It is a most useless category. I can understand that perhaps towns that are seen solely in the book can be added, but to have towns in both a book and the game is ultimately redundant and useless. And your justification here with a 4-person conversation lasting about an hour and a half is not justifiable. Before you create something, please have a meaningful conversation where people are given the chance to reply. If you need people to comment or wish they do, please use the request for comment page. I hope you will be either removing the locations that appear both in game and in the book or removing the category all together until a true consensus can be reached. Venom20 User Venom20-icon-0602-sm-black.png 04:59, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

I think the category in regards to documenting the game and its various related franchise is slightly unnecessary. Not in the sense that we shouldn't inform users which outposts and areas receive a mention in GoA, but much more for the fact that the book is canon franchise and therefore in direct relation with the game. If anything, though, a list should be created on the GoA page or (and this is pushing it) as a note on the areas'/outposts' article pages. The idea for the category is not dumb, it's just not an ideal execution of it and does deserve some attention in another fashion. :) - Infinite - talk 07:33, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Whether we call it non-ideal, dumb, or whatever, this creation should not have occurred. When creating categories to categorize things here, a discssion should be had. Venom20 User Venom20-icon-0602-sm-black.png 12:51, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
This has not always been the case, and I do believe we have had a discussion somewhere... regarding something like this. And there is nothing wrong with it, some places might not be in GW2... only lore-wise in GoA. Having this category clearly shows where it came from. --Naut User Naut Dark Blue Monk.png 12:57, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Tell me, how can I have a meaningful conversation when no one converses? I took the most reasonable course of action - multiple someones wanted a place to document locations seen in the book. I suggested something that wouldn't be even worse than what I did (the Ghosts of Ascalon Locations article), designed to mimic a pre-existing and liked category of the same design, purpose, and qualities, but with a different topic, and only one person commented since.
There is no need to remove any pages from the category, as I stated here. -- Konig/talk 16:29, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

"Tell me, how can I have a meaningful conversation when no one converses?" perhaps by asking them to converse. Not everyone trolls the recent changes like yourself. Request a Comment!! It is as simple as that. Why do you think the request a comment page is there? For it's good looks?!!! And as for your comment about how I "made changes that wasn't fully agreed upon just to have them reverted by [myself]". Firstly, they are colours. Colours, unlike words, are a visual tool and need to be viewed. At the time of change, there was an agreement that the colours were to be tested. They were tested, they failed, objects were reverted. I have since devised a new way of testing colours that is less impacting than a "change and revert" method. Secondly, I have undid any changes that were disputed, you have not. You created a category that is clearly being disputed but have made no attempts to reverse this. Why is that? Surely if you want to compare your contributions with mine, you can at least compare the methods of rectification. Venom20 User Venom20-icon-0602-sm-black.png 17:10, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Venom, cool it. You are being too hostile, and though I may agree with on you several points, your actions are not acceptable. Please stay on topic, avoid the personal attacks, and be more civil in the near future. --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 17:19, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Guys, please get along or compromise. Ariyen 18:14, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
"I have nothing against you but you started a quite rude discussion on my talk page" not to go all schoolyard on you, but what was with this? Why did you ask why I changed things when a discussion had been ongoing here about it. Konig clearly had no intentions of discussing the content, or he would have made a comment on the discussion or started a new one on the necro colour template. My advice is to read through discussion prior to asking someone why they made an edit then reverted it. If we asked everyone why they made an edit and reverted it, we'd be here all day. So I would really like to know why this edit was singled out? Personally I fell that I was singled out for the reasons of a personal attack. I then explained why the change here. I find it silly to ask each person why they made an edit, but if this is the way it's going to be.... Amannelle, I trust your opinion and I'm sure you have read everything. I will take your advice, I just want to know first why I was singled out. Ariyen, I am attempting to compromise, this is why I think a list is sufficient for the category proposed (proposed is not the right word, as it was already implemented without much discussion).Venom20 User Venom20-icon-0602-sm-black.png 18:51, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) After watching this, and Venom's talk page. I have to say Venom, you are being quite hypocritical about this. You've been far more aggressive accounts, you've been patronizing, obnoxious and just generally immature about this whole situation. We are all aware that Konig knows the rules of this wiki, he's been around much longer then you and has been very beneficial to it. Your insults to him have been just harsh, and I suggest you seize to continue. You have not be "singled out". Many people do this, it gets a quick response to a problem that a certain user has, so stop crying and get over yourself. --Naut User Naut Dark Blue Monk.png 18:58, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Rage wars episode 10000034.--Emmisary 19:03, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
Actually, I have been away for some time, so I am very sorry for not having seen those previous threads. I now understand why you feel so strongly (and defensively) in regards to Konig (and this topic), and I apologize for scolding you, it was not my place. --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 19:09, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
No Amannelle, it was your place. We need outside parties to assist in the disputes over the content being discussed and actions towards each other. Venom20 User Venom20-icon-0602-sm-black.png 19:18, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) "what was with this? Why did you ask why I changed things when a discussion had been ongoing here about it."I didn't know of said discussion, so I asked why you changed it and explained why I dislike it. I gave no hostile connotation to it (intentionally at least), while the same cannot be said for you. In one case, the colors just don't work - and I'm not the only one who think so as apparent in the discussion you linked, while in the other case, such as change was wanted and agreed upon by others, while in the discussion you linked, I do not see any agreement to the colors you change to. "Konig clearly had no intentions of discussing the content, or he would have made a comment on the discussion or started a new one on the necro colour template" You're right, I had no intent on a discussion - even on your page. I was merely asking why you changed it, and all you had to do was link to the discussion immediately, instead you went and stated how gw1 colors are "arbituary" and shouldn't be yada yada unimportant here - which sparked the discussion over there. Which is exactly what you did here. You didn't ask why I made the category - you knew and even linked to why I did. -- Konig/talk 19:25, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Gais gais lets all take a deep breath and think about the "who the hell gives a damn since this is the internet" idea. Then go breathe some fresh air.--Emmisary 19:29, 4 September 2010 (UTC)
I'd say request for comment is not needed before adding every such edit, that would just slow the wiki. When Konig even had some people supporting the idea, I'd say it's perfectly fine that he created it. No need for such rage on this, things can always be deleted later if it is decided so. Note that this does not mean I agree or disagree with the cat, just a neutral opinion on the whole thing. User ***EAGLEMUT*** Signature.png ***EAGLEMUT*** TALK 22:52, 4 September 2010 (UTC)

Your Userpage

The poem (Is it a poem?) is urhm, Naise :3 --Naut User Naut Dark Blue Monk.png 21:56, 28 September 2010 (UTC)

I suppose you can call it a poem. Though it doesn't rhyme... I think. And hah! Just realized out of pure chance I made the number of lines 3-5-3(-1). -- Konig/talk 23:23, 28 September 2010 (UTC)
Not all poetry rhymes :P--Naut User Naut Dark Blue Monk.png 15:40, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
Some of the greatest poetry ever created doesn't rhyme at all. --Lania User Lania Elderfire pinkribbon.jpg16:43, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
I know not all poetry rhymes, just as there are many many many different ways to write a poem that does rhyme. -- Konig/talk 22:36, 29 September 2010 (UTC)
File:User The Scythe Has Fallen Poem.png alongside "Scythe So Sensual..." "...and the winds of sorrow.... bear my wings". — Scythe 22:59, 29 Sep 2010 (UTC)
because i just thought of more, "I was flying like a raven, bringing sadness to you all. But then my heart was broken into pieces; that's when i began to fall..." My poetic style generally trails off at the end. — Scythe 23:48, 29 Sep 2010 (UTC)