User talk:Sparky, the Tainted
*Stab Redlink* Hai Sparks --Neil2250 , The Zoologist 23:17, 1 May 2010 (UTC)
Stubs
Why are they all stubs? — pling 00:14, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
- Some of them were already marked, so I figured it should be all or none - seeing all as the better choice (there really isn't very much on them at all). -~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) 00:18, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
- I think a lot (if not all) of the articles contain all/most of the information we know about them. Stub tags are for when "Key elements of this article are incomplete", not necessarily when they're short - something can be sufficiently documented but small in size. I might go through the category tomorrow and tidy it up a little, but I'm mightily tired now, so. (Which is why I might appear crabby.) — pling 00:23, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Racials
What's the source for the new racial skill pages you created? Taros 00:46, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
- The same as for most of the others, I may have cited it on the talk page, though. -~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) 02:46, 7 May 2010 (UTC)
hm?
What was the point of this? It worked fine regardless. o.O --Amannelle 03:16, 18 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks
Yea, I just noticed. X-D Have a little one playing some off the wall music that I didn't know was on a phone and distracted me... I'd caught it better X-P @ self. Thank you though. :-) Ariyen 05:24, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Hah, yeah, I often overlook details when I edit, even without any distractions. I think my record is about a quintuple-post. :P Out of random curiosity, what kind of music? -~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) 05:32, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
- Random music that AT&T (a cell phone wireless company) and or Nokia had on the phone (which is a Nokia). There is Rock type ringtones on there like Kid Rock's "All summer long", Acdc, Ghost Rider, etc. Ariyen 07:27, 26 August 2010 (UTC)
Watch me nitpick...
I'd like to correct something in regards to [1]. With the new practices and processes in effect, there is no 1RV rule. To be more precise, we just frown upon editwarring in general.
For what it's worth, I agree with your change to the article :) --Riddle 05:44, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- Sparky, when you know something is hotly contested and edit-wars are occurring, it's often better to hold back on the reverts and continue to discuss. Use Guild Wars 2 Wiki:Requests for comment to ask for other users' input; this might make it easier to resolve the issue. pling 19:47, 21 September 2010 (UTC)
- I am aware that there is no 1RR, I just hoped that it would make him think before insta-reverting everything I do like he seems to enjoy. I think it worked for the most part, since he didn't remove knockback, knock down, etc., the real reasons I edited the template. :P
- Pling, I've been asking SR for his input, but he just rephrases what he's already said and continues to put information in the main space without (official) sources, reverting anyone removing it. As far as I know, we do not document speculation or leaks. :( –~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) ←♥– 01:13, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- If Malchior got information from an anet dev, then that is information. If you cannot trust that, then we cannot trust anything because all information everywhere is from firsthand accounts. What we know is that it's a condition that blocks you from using skills without moving. I won't add anything else but that is completely confirmed. This isn't a leak either. It was in the demo at the time they displayed it (but it was one of those things they were still finishing up at the time). There was official confirmation by someone from anet. It was not from somewhere else and is not something that was not intended to be released. And just so you know, and I'm pissed off by you not figuring it out. I'm a guy. Shadowed Ritualist 01:51, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- The true question is; how can we trust the source Malchior is using for his information? If only this source would entrust his legimacy with the bureaucrats on this Wiki we can accept any future references to this mysterious source, but before that we can only consider this as unofficial information and therefore should not document it. Is there a way Malchior can ask of his source to identify themselves only towards the/a single bureaucrat(s) on this Wiki? Maybe a bureaucrat should ask for confirmation directly and act accordingly? - Infinite - talk 02:14, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Using Malchior's post is using a secondhand source, not firsthand. Likewise, if I say that a developer told me that Guild Wars 2 is being renamed World of Guildcraft, then would you change every mention of GW2 to WoG? –~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) ←♥– 02:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- If Regina only entrusted information to Malchior for the GuildMag, but he was specifically allowed to hint about it on Guru and he then specifically mentioned Regina, is it official even before Regina confirms she was the source; no.
- EDIT: Equally it does not give anyone permission to start a revert war just because the source is questionable; this is what consensus and talk pages are for and you all know that. - Infinite - talk 02:32, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- I guess you guys just have to go on good faith to believe in both me and the developer I spoke with. I'll tell you this much. It wasn't anyone from the PR department; it was an actual developer. I know who this developer is and his role in Arenanet, but I am not allowed to reveal who he is. He watches the forums, and if he became public, then he would never get any work done. Take it or leave it, but everything I have posted here is 100% legitimate. --Malchior Devenholm 04:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oh don't get me wrong; I am assuming the best of faith towards you at this point; It's just that other contributors are more strict in regards to validating sources, especially this one. I respect that he chooses isolation to work on his project, but equally, a hidden source will always remain questionable until they confirm it first-hand. (Or until a different ArenaNet developer confirms it for them, maybe that's an idea?) :) - Infinite - talk 10:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Infinite, bureaucrats are irrelevant when it comes to content. In my personal opinion, research, logical conclusion, trusting contributors and secondary sources are acceptable in deciding that daze is a condition. pling 16:11, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Oh don't get me wrong; I am assuming the best of faith towards you at this point; It's just that other contributors are more strict in regards to validating sources, especially this one. I respect that he chooses isolation to work on his project, but equally, a hidden source will always remain questionable until they confirm it first-hand. (Or until a different ArenaNet developer confirms it for them, maybe that's an idea?) :) - Infinite - talk 10:55, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- I guess you guys just have to go on good faith to believe in both me and the developer I spoke with. I'll tell you this much. It wasn't anyone from the PR department; it was an actual developer. I know who this developer is and his role in Arenanet, but I am not allowed to reveal who he is. He watches the forums, and if he became public, then he would never get any work done. Take it or leave it, but everything I have posted here is 100% legitimate. --Malchior Devenholm 04:50, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- Using Malchior's post is using a secondhand source, not firsthand. Likewise, if I say that a developer told me that Guild Wars 2 is being renamed World of Guildcraft, then would you change every mention of GW2 to WoG? –~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) ←♥– 02:21, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- The true question is; how can we trust the source Malchior is using for his information? If only this source would entrust his legimacy with the bureaucrats on this Wiki we can accept any future references to this mysterious source, but before that we can only consider this as unofficial information and therefore should not document it. Is there a way Malchior can ask of his source to identify themselves only towards the/a single bureaucrat(s) on this Wiki? Maybe a bureaucrat should ask for confirmation directly and act accordingly? - Infinite - talk 02:14, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
- If Malchior got information from an anet dev, then that is information. If you cannot trust that, then we cannot trust anything because all information everywhere is from firsthand accounts. What we know is that it's a condition that blocks you from using skills without moving. I won't add anything else but that is completely confirmed. This isn't a leak either. It was in the demo at the time they displayed it (but it was one of those things they were still finishing up at the time). There was official confirmation by someone from anet. It was not from somewhere else and is not something that was not intended to be released. And just so you know, and I'm pissed off by you not figuring it out. I'm a guy. Shadowed Ritualist 01:51, 22 September 2010 (UTC)
Just pointing it out
Your user page has 9 profession mentions. :) First you use Sage, but later on you mention Gunner. But I've obviously gone mental, as there is no page there. :P - Infinite - talk 03:26, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
- Hah, whoops. I guess that was leftover from before I merged my amended prediction with my original. Thanks for pointing that out on my obviously nonexistent page. ;D –~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) ←♥– 04:04, 25 September 2010 (UTC)
Alphabetical?
Why are you changing the skill lists in the weapon pages to alphabetical? It makes more sense, to me, that they stay in the order that they appear on your bar. That is the order they were in before you started to change them. Also, burst skills should be indicated in some way that they are not on the skill bar, or at least not like the other skills.--Corsair@Yarrr 03:42, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- While I do agree that burst skills should be noted, I do not think that skill bar order is the best choice. Skill bar order is irrelevant to every other article (I think that sorting should be uniform across the wiki). The argument could be made that the default position says something about the skill (i.e., the first skill of a two-hand or main-hand weapon generally is the basic attack with no recharge), but, for all we know, you can change the default order in your options. –~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) ←♥– 04:13, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- When I played the game at PAX I could not change the order of the skills. And yes, it does say a lot about the skills. For example on the warrior skill number 4 on the ranged weapons is a melee attack. (the order was incorrect on the Rifle page before you got to it) I'm fine with alphabetical elsewhere, but skill slot order in this case just makes so much more sense to me. And it seems to others as that is how most of the weapon pages were set up.--Corsair
@Yarrr 04:34, 25 October 2010 (UTC)- Of course it should be uniform. I have to agree with Corsair on this one. --ஸ ķ̌yǾshĺ 04:51, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- I agree with Corsair also. Unless you have an argument for alphabetical, besides "skill bar order could be wrong." (No disrespect) Eive 04:57, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- (Edit conflict) Actually, a lot of them were set up alphabetically, too (especially the off-hand weapons). Not changeable in the demo isn't the same as not changeable in the release (i.e., dyes were free and severely reduced in variety during the demo, but there will be over 2½ - 5 times more color options in the release and they may be limited use). I don't feel strongly either way, I just changed them because I thought we were doing alpha order. –~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) ←♥– 05:03, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Well, for now, the demo is the single most accurate source we have, so to assume that the demo is wrong would not only be speculation but downright silly. =P --ஸ ķ̌yǾshĺ 05:42, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- I would assume it's wrong more than I would assume it's right. It's a game under construction, meaning you can basically be assured that nearly everything will be different in some way (even if just very slightly different), but it is a good approximation for the basic structure in most cases. –~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) ←♥– 05:50, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Just to add my 0.02, I disagree with alphabetical order as well. I also feel that ordering them as seen in-game on the skill bar is a more accurate way of documentation. I also agree that things may change from beta release to final release (in fact things will change), but to assume that all things will change, IMO, is not a good way to think about things. Like Kyoshi said, the demo is thus far the most accurate of information that we have. If things change, we can ammend it later. By you line of reasoning, why even bother documenting any of the skills because they may change at lease date?! (note sarcasm). Venom20 12:39, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Actually, by my reasoning, why care how we document the skills until the game release as long as we document them uniformly? The reason is because we will completely change the documentation procedure and uniform documentation makes it easier to transfer information into new formats efficiently (and uniformity looks nicer). Yeah, I don't just spit out baseless ideas unless I'm bored. –~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) ←♥– 01:16, 26 October 2010 (UTC)
- Just to add my 0.02, I disagree with alphabetical order as well. I also feel that ordering them as seen in-game on the skill bar is a more accurate way of documentation. I also agree that things may change from beta release to final release (in fact things will change), but to assume that all things will change, IMO, is not a good way to think about things. Like Kyoshi said, the demo is thus far the most accurate of information that we have. If things change, we can ammend it later. By you line of reasoning, why even bother documenting any of the skills because they may change at lease date?! (note sarcasm). Venom20 12:39, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- I would assume it's wrong more than I would assume it's right. It's a game under construction, meaning you can basically be assured that nearly everything will be different in some way (even if just very slightly different), but it is a good approximation for the basic structure in most cases. –~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) ←♥– 05:50, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Well, for now, the demo is the single most accurate source we have, so to assume that the demo is wrong would not only be speculation but downright silly. =P --ஸ ķ̌yǾshĺ 05:42, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- Of course it should be uniform. I have to agree with Corsair on this one. --ஸ ķ̌yǾshĺ 04:51, 25 October 2010 (UTC)
- When I played the game at PAX I could not change the order of the skills. And yes, it does say a lot about the skills. For example on the warrior skill number 4 on the ranged weapons is a melee attack. (the order was incorrect on the Rifle page before you got to it) I'm fine with alphabetical elsewhere, but skill slot order in this case just makes so much more sense to me. And it seems to others as that is how most of the weapon pages were set up.--Corsair
Your userpage
I managed to click randomly on it while reading the first sentence and wound up on the Wiki page for Pearl Jam. 0.0 White text ftw. Eive 19:54, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
- Haha, nice. I enjoy using white text and hidden links all too much. :D –~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) ←♥– 20:44, 31 October 2010 (UTC)
Deletions
Yea, I've noticed old deleted pages still in the deletion query. That's messed up. X-) Thank you for the fixes. :-) Ariyen 23:57, 13 November 2010 (UTC)
- No problem at all. (I'm not sure if I actually needed to tag the talk too, but might as well.) I wonder when speedy deletion will actually be speedy again. :P –~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) ←♥– 00:05, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
- I don't know... I wish they were, but it's like the admins delete things when they want to... :-S I don't find it beneficial... I liked having some idea when something is deleted. 72.148.31.114 02:26, 14 November 2010 (UTC)
You know...
You could use __NOEDITSECTION__ to remove the little edit buttons on your page to make it more hidden if you wish. Eive 02:58, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
- Hmm, never knew that, thanks. :D Though, I'll probably leave it with the edit buttons, they make me feel like one of those incompetent super villains like Dr. Evil. :P –~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) ←♥– 03:07, 28 January 2011 (UTC)
Trait Icons
In retrospect, "eight-sided star" is incorrect, but would you settle for "eight-pointed star"? I'd never even heard of an "octagram" before reading it in the article, and I only guessed what it was based on what I knew of a pentagram. —Proton 00:13, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
- An octagram is the same as an eight-sided star, but yeah, not many people know that (including me before I looked it up when it was first added :P). I almost changed it to eight-pointed star, but I decided not to for some reason. I think eight-pointed-star icon is fine. –~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) ←♥– 00:53, 22 March 2011 (UTC)
- Octagram is used in geometry, but an eight pointed star will be familiar to more people, if you wanna dumb it down. :P j/k -- Xu Davella 08:58, 28 March 2011 (UTC)
Hi! :)
Formal greeting high five!! OK that was lame. Actually, it's about the revert on the ranger article. If we don't know all of the utility skills, then isn't it speculation to assume otherwise? Or is there an interview that I've dumbed out in reading? -- Xu Davella 11:37, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
- Hah, lameness is fun for the whole family! I'm sure most have read it, just forgotten: "Outside of combat, or through the use of utility skills, the ranger can swap their active pet." It's under the skill video box, in the section titled "Pets". –~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) ←♥– 17:27, 3 April 2011 (UTC)
Condition
I must convince thee to change thou stance on thy mattress for them purpose of think consensus. --Xu Davella 23:27, 24 May 2011 (UTC)
- The opening paragraph can state it, instead of having "specifically" in every header. Then again, I don't really care. –~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) ←♥– 01:16, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
Accidentally
I accidentally spilled ink on your userpage and discovered something very interesting...... But, you'll never find this comment soo...... (P.S. It's called discretion, telling us your userpage is non-existent is terrible reverse psychology- if you left a blank page- noone would ever look.