Talk:Mastery point unlocks

This article also needs some additional definition as far as gaining these available mastery points. At this point, the entirety of this article is highly generic in nature, without a significant amount of detail.

This page is meant to be "highly generic", just giving a list of the achievements that award mastery points. Details are on the individual achievement categories' pages. —Dr Ishmael 02:53, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

: The links to the achievements aren't clear; it was a day before I realized that the links in the left column were different than the identical links in the right. Links on the left take you to the achievement pages. - countytime, Crystal Desert

Any way to read the already-obtained ones in-game?

Is there an interface to tell you which ones you already have? Daddicus (talk) 00:38, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

ID	Name	Mastery point type

Only using the API I think. There are probably some external sites you can use to look these up but I haven't found any yet. I'll have a go after lunch. -Chieftain Alex 14:44, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks! Daddicus (talk) 19:06, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Took a while, learnt some new stuff. You'll need to visit ArenaNet's site to fetch your API key first (https://account.arena.net/applications). Then copy that and head over to User:Chieftain Alex/sandbox6. Have fun. -Chieftain Alex 19:28, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Thanks, but I don't know how to use the info. When I click one of the links, it asks for an application name. Do I need to install something or write some code? Daddicus (talk) 19:57, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Per API:API key and File:API Key Creation.png, the name is just for your own reference later (no installations involved!), I called mine "mastery" for example. I don't think that anyone else sees the name anyway. -81.158.150.190 20:42, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Not "name". "application name". It asks me what program I want to open the .json file with. It's a javascript file, but Windows 10 doesn't seem to have anything associated with json files. Hence the reason I asked what I needed to install. Daddicus (talk) 20:55, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Oh lol, so the table populated itself on the sandbox page then? You can ignore the links from the table. -81.158.150.190 21:07, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

I think the link is supposed to ask me for my api code. But, to do that it requires an application open it. I have no application (that I know of) that can open the json file. I would have thought Internet Explorer would just do it, but it doesn't work (possibly due to crippling by Microsoft in Windows 10). Daddicus (talk) 21:45, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Alex should probably use a form for entering the API key instead of prompt.--Relyk ~ talk < 22:59, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Daddicus; does accepting the key set as the default eventually show you a big table with about 180 rows? -81.158.150.190 23:13, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

I don't know what you mean. The only prompt I get is from Windows, asking me what program I want to open the JSON file with. I looked at the file, and it's simple javascript with some hooks into the database. But, I don't know how to run it. I never get prompted for a key or a name. Daddicus (talk) 23:16, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Viewing my sandbox page doesn't require any JSON files to be opened by the user.

Alright instructions mk 2

1. Go to https://account.arena.net/applications
   1. Login into your guildwars2 account. You'll now find yourself looking at the "API Key Management" page
   2. On the right-hand side there is a button saying "New Key". Press it.
   3. You now find yourself looking at a page called "Create New API Key"
   4. Enter any name at the top (e.g. "mastery"). Tick the [] Account and [] Progression boxes below. Then press the big red button saying "Create API Key".
   5. You're now on a new page, and have something you can copy in the middle of your screen which looks like "7B26C33D-A654-BF4E-B0BF-734CBC71C84B1719F9FD-727E-4D04-A734-34701C9F7BA1". Copy it.
2. Head to my sandbox.
   1. Before the page loads properly it will prompt you with a box to paste your API key into (looks like this). Paste your key into the text entry field and press OK to continue (this closes the prompt popup)
   2. The page will slowly load a big table with all your achievements that are marked as awarding mastery points in the achievements API.
   3. Finished. Look at the information.

-Chieftain Alex 23:58, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

Use chrome or firefox tbh. IE might disable the prompt function and doesn't know how to open JSON files. The API response is a JSON file and IE doesn't have a file association for it (I think).--Relyk ~ talk < 02:18, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Tested edge, firefox, and my windows phone (internet explorer) and they all worked with the main query ok. Internet explorer and edge don't allow natively exploring json you're quite right. -Chieftain Alex 02:49, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Must have been a timing problem. This time, it worked (still in IE). Is the list the ones I need, or the ones I've done?

Thanks bunches!!! Daddicus (talk) 04:17, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

(Provided that you provide a working api key) At the moment it's a list of achievements that are marked as completed on your account, that are also listed in the API as having a mastery point reward associated with it. There are some personal story achievements which only grant a mastery point the first time you complete an achievement for a chapter so the number of mastery points may not be the same in the table as ingame. -Chieftain Alex 11:04, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Edit: achievements marked with a 1 are completed. Achievements marked with a 0 are incomplete. Some mastery awarding achievements don't show up until you unlock them. (e.g. I haven't bought Living Story 2 episode 1, so the mastery point for that doesn't appear in the table when I use my API key) -Chieftain Alex 11:52, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

Ahhhh. It must have been another timing problem, because the 1s and 0s did not appear yesterday. But, they're there now.

Thank you for all the help!!! Daddicus (talk) 22:25, 21 December 2015 (UTC)

No problem lol. I only added the 1s and 0s when I typed "edit" above, they weren't there yesterday. -Chieftain Alex 00:46, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

:) Daddicus (talk) 01:45, 22 December 2015 (UTC)

Change of content

So this was previously quite a high-level overview of which categories contained mastery points. Noxx switched it to be a very detailed list of every achievement and contributing tier. I've gone and simplified the content a bit by just presenting achievement name, category and description, which I think is sufficient. -Chieftain Alex 14:23, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Yeah, these tables are probably better, but there's currently a problem with the total point counts, as Hero (achievements) has only 11 points available instead of the 25 they add up to. 16:46, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Afaik only the first point rewarding achievement per story tier counts ingame, which reflects why its 11 not 25. {{Achievement table row}} handles that. Probably needs a note at the top though. Nope you're right I need to fix this. -Chieftain Alex 17:14, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

Need to fix the page asap ... I know people who was making a character in another race just for the mastery point... --GodRage (talk) 23:37, 22 June 2016 (UTC)

New column?

Would it be practical to add a column to the tables called "Considered Easier"? I'm not sure how we would vote on them, but this would help both new players and new-to-HoT players figure out ones that they can do for quicker mastery-leveling (early on).

The problem is "what's the definition of easy?" Is this even a good idea? Daddicus (talk) 17:56, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

If something like that is wanted, I think a `guide to quick 181 mastery points` would be better than an arbitrary easy or not. For me, I found almost all LS2 mastery points laughably easy to do; others not so much. A guide would offer more explanation as to why things are 'easy' and multiple ways to get such a thing 'easily'. -Darqam 18:23, 28 April 2017 (UTC)

I was thinking more for much newer players, like the easiest two dozen or something like that. But, your idea has merit as well. Daddicus (talk) 06:19, 29 April 2017 (UTC)

Total HoT MP

Currently the page says 217 but the MP listed are 189. If there are 217 the page should say what the others are and how to get them.

Also, 5 MP listed are "Beta" MP which are not available and don't even count toward live accounts. I think it's only confusing to list them in the total list.

This is a known bug, I fixed it to be 189/190 (including the hidden Mayatl), and have subsequently removed the beta weekend points, which has reduced it to 184/185 (@Noxx, that wasn't helpful :p) -Chieftain Alex 20:10, 1 June 2017 (UTC)

Seems broken again. Showing 198 rows, but over 250 points.

It seems that someone edited this to list 274 Maguuma points which is impossible. There are ~196 achievements and maybe a couple obtainable without achievements? Serena sedai (talk) 02:17, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

Maybe i'll just admit defeat and write a widget to count table rows since the total from ask is almost always broken beyond belief. -Chieftain Alex 02:34, 1 October 2017 (UTC)

I gave up and wrote [[Widget:Table row count]]. --Chieftain Alex 20:17, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Tyrian MP total?

It says 82, table lists 81 and counting on my account I came up with 79. Any clues about those differences? - ZT

The wiki backend software is a bunch of shit when it comes to adding up values. The table and the count is at least now consistently reporting 81. Dunno about the 79 yet. -Chieftain Alex 20:53, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Using the API I get 81 for what it should be (ties up with wiki). I'm not sure how you got to 79:

• Story Journal = 16 total
• General = 40 total
• Side stories = 3 total
• Fractals of the Mists = 16 total
• Collections = 6 total
• Grand total = 16+40+3+16+6 = 81.

-Chieftain Alex 21:10, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

I got 79 counting MPs on the account, in the game (49 spent + 18 to spend + 12 to get still). I've checked all my MP achievements against the table from here, and indeed it seems that game is not giving me 2 MP, although I got the achievements.

I'll bug report that. - ZT

I suspect this may be due to story completion, since it only awards one mastery point for each Personal Story tier. I am guessing that somehow the mastery points are not properly awarded if you had already completed the story before HoT launched. Serena sedai (talk) 04:06, 17 December 2018 (UTC)

Feedback 2017/10/03

There is actually 85 mastery points available in Path of Fire, the list is missing Desolation Insight: Arena of Vayu

Daybreak

MP unlocks for the first episode of LS4 need to be added to the PoF list. I have no idea how to do that.

Items are added automatically when the achievement in question is tagged as containing a mastery point. Since they are already tagged as such, I fixed it by hitting the "refresh" tab at the top (not the browser refresh button) to force it to repopulate the page. In case you wanted to know how to do something like this in the future --Gimmethegepgun (talk) 19:34, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Actually the mastery track was set incorrectly. -Chieftain Alex 20:16, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Oh. My bad lol --Gimmethegepgun (talk) 22:06, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

Well purging never hurts. :) --Chieftain Alex 23:54, 3 January 2018 (UTC)

There's a joke about The Purge in here somewhere --Gimmethegepgun (talk) 00:27, 4 January 2018 (UTC)

Inconsistency when applying API key

I just notice that if I apply the API key on this page, Nightmare Fractal and Transfer Chaser will lit up, but if I go into the achievement page and apply API key there, they will no longer lit up. Of course I have both completed in game. --Maplemist 16:13, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

That's a bug with the API. See API:2/account/mastery/points. We can't fix it on the wiki unless I apply a really nasty bandaid involving checking achievement completion. -Chieftain Alex 20:03, 7 November 2019 (UTC)

Personal Story Mastery Points description

I am trying to get the "Personal Story Chapter 2", "Personal Story Chapter 3", "Personal Story Chapter 5", to say something like "Complete chapter 4 of the Personal Story for the first time on the account (can be earned for each race)." I edited the page Hero (achievements) where these descriptions can be found, but they still do not change on this page. Can someone who knows better than I make the edits required to make these changes happen to clarify to players looking up central tyria masteries that they can earn multiples of these hero points via personal story? Kenji_03 18:34, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Simply hit the Refresh button on the top to purge the page and force a reload of the page (to obtain the latest edited information from another page). Alternatively, you can perform a "null edit" by clicking Edit and Save changes without editing; note that you will not show up in history.

See also: mw:Manual:Purge --Tolkyria (talk) 19:55, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

Wait that doesn't sound correct - from memory its a max of 8 core tyria mastery points. Even if you complete every single story variant on every race/order etc. -Chieftain Alex 20:07, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

I think so too, only 8 points from the personal story at most, one for each of the eight chapter, the first race that completes it gets it. Summing up my points yields me the same result (ignoring "Transfer Chaser"; off-topic: the API isn't bugged regarding "Transfer Chaser" and "Nightmare Fractal", actually it seems to be an ingame bug, the achievement simply doesn't reward the mastery point and hence the api correctly doesn't not return it as unlocked). --Tolkyria (talk) 20:35, 12 December 2019 (UTC)

API Key to top? 2020/05/01

Can we move the API key above the table? As a newer player, still working on these, I frequent this page a lot and it's a long scroll to the bottom. --73.169.0.148 15:06, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

I agree with you that for better visibility the widget should be at the top, so I moved it. Hopefully it doesn't break anything. ~SimeTalk 15:22, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

It doesn't break anything. It was moved to the bottom because Alex claimed that this widget doesn't work correctly, e.g. see two discussions above or the history. That's however not true, actually it's an in-game bug, not rewarding the mastery point on achievement completion in certain cases. Hence the API correctly states that the mastery points associated to Nightmare Fractal and Transfer Chaser are not rewarded. See also: here. --Tolkyria (talk) 15:36, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Good to know, thanks Tolkyria! ~SimeTalk 15:49, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Patched the widget to check API achievements for the two with mastery points. -Chieftain Alex 19:13, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

Well, I counted it three times. I have the achievement Transfer Chaser unlocked finished (edit) but do NOT have the mastery point. Unless I'm completely wrong, I have 55 mastery points (49 spent and 6 unspent) but 56 greyed out achievements here on this page, the missing mastery point is pretty sure related to Transfer Chaser. Hence, as said above, it's not an API problem but an in-game problem. Therefore, the widget patch looking for the unlocked achievement id isn't correct and should be removed (again, if I'm not completely wrong, maybe someone else can count its achievements). If the mastery point account API doesn't contain the Transfer Chaser or Nightmare Fractal mastery point then because the in-game mastery point reward mechanism is bugged. --Tolkyria (talk) 20:33, 1 May 2020 (UTC)

HoT mastery points

A closer look should be taken at the green mastery points for HoT Act 2 City of Hope and HoT Act 2 Prized Possessions. The game does not have green MP rewards listed under their respective achievements. After submitting my API key, both grayed out for me. Only problem is I haven't started Act 2 yet. Ever. I did notice I received one for Is A Good Offense (Under Act 1), the other one for Artful Dodger (also under Act 1). Again, neither of these two achievement list an green MP as reward, but I remember they used to. Some time ago. Research warranted! --Disconnect (talk) 18:11, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

For me HoT Act 2 City of Hope and Prized Possessions show a mastery point under rewards ingame. The wiki mastery ids are also correct. (Artful Dodger and A Good Offense do not have mastery points.) —Kvothe (talk) 21:08, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

Screenshot from Disconnect

Made a screenshot. There's no green MP icon in either achievement there, unlike a few others. I'm grabbing green MP based on wiki's list. It's not a case of incorrect observations from my side. Also, I should sign all my comments. Disconnect (talk) 23:32, 11 October 2020 (UTC)

API does say it gives mastery point though, see [1] DJemba (talk) 06:53, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

So I'll play more story and report my findings here. Somewhere down the storyline I must run into two achievements that promise an MP but don't reward it. I just finished the story bit Prized Possessions and I did receive an MP for it. Immediately logged off. Upon refreshing the list on this page, it grayed out The Predator's Path. Finished City of Hope next, got an MP for it. In wiki's list it now grayed out Strange Observations. Finished The Predator's Path, it did not reward an MP, even though the achievement says it should have. Same applies for Strange Observations. No MP on that one either. So now it seems reasonable to assume we've found all the wrong indices. Game says A, does B. It's an anomaly. Disconnect (talk) 09:43, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Kvothe: I can only check the completed achievements, those all show mastery points.

Maybe your game files are corrupted. You could try a Client repair or reach out to the Gw2 support. The wiki is player run so we can not help you directly. —Kvothe (talk) 12:58, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

All mastery point ids are set correctly on the wiki side. —Kvothe (talk) 13:03, 12 October 2020 (UTC)

Incorrect Icebrood Saga mastery point count

This page currently states there are 57 Icebrood Saga mastery points available from achievements and 5 from the service items for a total of 62. However, this is incorrect, those numbers are calculated automatically but some points are apparently calculated multiple times. For instance, even the achievements that award a mastery point through a service item still show the icon, so we count it at least twice. And to make things even more complicated, Morale Breaker awards 2 service items in total and has an icon as well.

When I counted the achievements with mastery points manually, I arrived at the number 52 in total; this matches the fact the table currently has 51 rows, one of which hides two points. It seems like each of those duplicate points are actually counted three times (I haven't figured out where the third one comes from yet), but the fact is the current number is wrong. But as it's all counted automatically, I'm not actually quite sure where to fix it. Does anyone else have any ideas? 19:47, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Okay, the 57 are defintely my fault while in fact the should be 51, Alex warned me about this, see here. I'll try to fix this.

Well, the consumables are probably my fault too, I assumed that the mastery point icon stands for an mastery point reward when completing all tiers independently from the intermediate service item tier rewards, e.g. I assumed Moral Breaker with 2 service item tier rewards and the mastery point icon rewards three mastery points in total. This isn't the case?! If yes (this isn't the case) then we could add a quantity to the achievement, defaulting to 1, hence actually it would be only set for Moral Breaker to "mastery point quantity = 2". --Tolkyria (talk) 20:06, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

I think we shouldn't be counting masteries from sesrvice items there. The mastery icon simply means that the achievement rewards a Mastery Point upon completion. I'll try purging the pages and will see if it fixes the numbers. DJemba (talk) 20:12, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Fixed the table numbers, the smw query limited the results to achievements only due to using achievements only sort properties in the parameter sort but didn't took these properties into account when calculating the number of results (hence the achievement categories, five in total, had been added too). Remains the question whether the Mastery Point (service item) are additional to the achievement mastery point icon or already included by the icon. --Tolkyria (talk) 20:21, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Fixed. Sorry, I got confused by the mastery icons and the mastery point service item, thanks for the clarification. Icebrood Saga now states 52 mastery points. --Tolkyria (talk) 21:36, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick fix! Technically, I haven't completed Morale Breaker yet, but the game stopped showing the icon after I got 2 points from the service items, and I'm 100% certain this is how it worked at least for the Master of the Ancestral Forge achievement, which I have completed fully and which only awards 1 point despite having the service item at a lower tier as well. So, I'd say we can assume for now the service items simply move the points forward rather than being additional points, unless someone finds out each of these achievements do in fact act differently. And even if they do, at least we have the framework to count them properly now. ^^ (Whatever the case, the game UI is really confusing, I originally also assumed they're bonus points as well and was very surprised when I found out that's not the case...) 23:47, 5 November 2020 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Fwiw the API doesn't expose the id of the second mastery point id yet for Cold War's Morale Breaker (achievement 5247). Its probably mastery 494 for Tier 1 and 509 for Tier 3.

Also 535 should be for Dragon Response Master - in lieu of better information i've added both 494+535 into the achievement table row information. -Chieftain Alex 10:09, 22 August 2021 (UTC)

Missing 1 EOD MP

Missing an EOD mastery point for the achievement Simpleminded (in the branch End of Dragons/Dragon's End). Been searching for an hour how to add it myself, but keep on running in circles. --Disconnect (talk) 03:30, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

In order to make a mastery point show up in this table one has to add the template {{achievement table row}} on the according achievement page with the parameter mastery = End of Dragons. --Tolkyria (talk) 08:03, 15 March 2022 (UTC)

Feedback 2023/02/12

I absolutely love this page - I use it all the time. Having 6 accounts is a lot of masteries to work on! However the page is getting a bit insane for length. Is there a way to allow each section to be show/hide collapsible? Or have the Table of Contents show up all the time? or break them out into 1 page per table/expac? Or show/hide checkboxes for each zone mastery - e.g. allowing me to uncheck Verdant Brink once I have finished getting the masteries in that zone? This is well beyond my level of "fix typos" editing skills, so i'm not really sure what is possible given the current page. --Zerothbase (talk) 21:06, 12 February 2023 (UTC)

Error?

Ok, I may be not understanding something, but I just entered a new API key after forgetting the old one.
But this MP:

Auric Basin	"Slice of Sky" Strongbox	Search in the Lastgear Standing area for the strongbox from the "Slice of Sky."

is not greyed out, but there is no question I've done it. Same for another bunch of them in the same area. I pretty much gave the API key full access (suggestion: List which accesses the API needs ?)
Thanks, in general -- --Obloodyhell (talk) 20:38, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

It tells you it needs the "progression" permission when you haven't entered a key. If you're able to send me your api key (ingame "Chieftain Alex", discord "chieftainalex" or by email using Special:EmailUser) I can take a look properly. -Chieftain Alex 22:22, 17 July 2023 (UTC)

Feedback 2023/09/14

Since this list is so large, it would be nice to have a shorter travel time between the API key and the Expansion of interest. Possible solutions

- perhaps put an API update at the top of each section

- or maybe just a link table at the top of the page next to the current API key

Oh NVM, I see this was suggested over 10 years ago, lol

I do not think the API widget can apear for one function multiple times per page, but there is the "Go to top" button below every section to navigate there back easily. ~Sime 01:48, 15 September 2023 (UTC)