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Source??--User Necro Shea mo signature.jpg Necro Shea Mo 16:35, 29 July 2011 (UTC)

OK...[edit]

where the FUCK is Rilo Britton? I am wasitng all my time just tring to find him instead of actually playing the game! I'm in Rurikton but I don't see him anywhere. Can somebody please mark him on the map or something and then add it to the main page? I will be eternally grateful! Previously Unsigned 00:03, 29 April 2012 (UTC)

Too low level tool?[edit]

I wonder what will happen if you try to gather, let's say steel, with mining pick that is meant for copper only. Gorribal 19:51, 3 May 2012 (UTC)

You get Ruined Ore Chunk --Draygo Korvan 16:50, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

While on this topic, which level is being referred on the gathering tool description? Character level or crafting level? I wasn't able to test this during the BWE, so I am hoping someone who knows can say. Dr Dread

It is character level. See for example Iron Harvesting Sickle and click on the Req. Level link. Dr Dread

Also while on this topic: the statement "Players will not have a chance at rare materials from the action" in Ruined Material section is not true. I do get rare materials sometimes along with ruined ore when I'm gathering low-level materials with my high-level characters and forget to switch from copper tool to iron tool, for example. Gilliand (talk) 21:10, 28 April 2014 (UTC)

Update[edit]

I've updated this page quite a lot, all based on what Eyjulf (Merchant) in Hoelbrak was selling during BWE2. As there was no mention of golden gathering tools in Eyjulf's inventory, I don't know if it's due to an update or whether those other items are also available elsewhere. Feel free to correct the page, of course! Elwynd 19:49, 12 June 2012 (UTC)

Sickle/axe/pick redirects?[edit]

Harvesting Sickle, Harvesting Sickles, etc... we should at least have these in place, I think? Redshift 16:38, 14 June 2012 (UTC)

I agree - maybe they should just link back here though? At least for the moment, until there's more to say about them...Elwynd 18:46, 14 June 2012 (UTC)
I have created Harvesting sickle, Logging axe, and Mining pick redirects to start. Capitalized and plural variants will likely follow. As a note, I have changed the capitalization of the headers in the Gathering tool article to reflect that they are a generic type of item and thus should be #Harvesting sickles and not #Harvesting Sickles (in contrast to the items themselves which reflect their in-game presentation). Redshift 12:02, 15 June 2012 (UTC)

Charges?[edit]

Can/should we list the number of uses per gathering item, or are they all the same? Should the fact that they are limited-use items also be mentioned in the general text at the top? The preceding unsigned comment was added by 12.202.74.87 (talk • contribs) at 18:44, 3 August 2012 (UTC).

I think all the ones you buy come with 100 uses, and the Mystic ones have 25. But I haven't actually played PvE since BWE1 (and I still haven't fully characterized damage scaling, curses!), so those may have changed. —Dr Ishmael User Dr ishmael Diablo the chicken.png 18:51, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
At least one of the basic tools has only 50 uses. I forget which one. --Gentlecow 20:04, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Harvesting sickles. Gnarf 20:20, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
Seems they come with different charges. I've added a column to the tables. Elwynd 12:58, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Rare material and tool quality[edit]

Is it true, that using higher level tool would increase the amount of rare material (e.g. gems) one get? Does it make sense to use expensive tools on simple ore like copper, or is in this case the simplest tool as good as any other?The preceding unsigned comment was added by 188.101.135.232 (talk • contribs) at 2012-08-31T08:41:11 (UTC).

reorganising the tables[edit]

There are the 6 tiers of gathering material: copper, iron, steel, darksteel, mithril and orichalcum. And than there are the strange ones, like Black Lion and Master, etc. I would like to organise th table that there is a distinction between these 2 because, well, I think there is a distinction between these two. Suggestions? - Yandere Talk to me... 13:09, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

I think we should put the Copper, Iron, Steel, ... stuff first. You can buy all of these from the Master Crafters and usually 2 of them of some of the merchants in map(usually the level needed on that map). Then the stuff you can buy for karma. So far I found 3(a sickle, a axe and a pick) of them at renown heart vendors in Bloodtide Coast. Each one 600+ karma and 25 uses. Then that Master Harvesting Sickle/Axe/Pick you get from story(is there a pick? I only got 2 Sickles and in the lists currently only Sickle and Axe). Then the Black Lion stuff. - lordmd 11:48, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Special Gathering tools from personal storyline or karma vendors[edit]

We need more research on these. There is this one with 125 uses you get from the story. Seems it is only for low level things because I tried to gather some higher level materials and it gave ruined plant stuff. But don't know until which level of ingredients you can use it. Also the effect is not clear to me. It says it is more efficient at gathering but so far I only got the same results as with the normal sickles. But did not try that much. There is one sickle from a karma vendor for 600+ karma with only 25 uses. I tried this on high level material up to level 300 and it worked. Maybe this working for all materials? And I got 1, 2, 4 ingredients with one gathering use. Usually for the normal sickles I always only got 1 or 2. 4 per use is pretty nice especially with the node being used and disappering for some time and some stuff you really need to run around for those random placed herbs or roots that come not with a node farm. - lordmd 11:42, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Master Mining Picks (125 uses) Quest reward blue Item and currently as of 9/8 can be used to harvest Orichalcum nodes. I have seen posts regarding that it returns ruined ores(or whatever the term is) for gold nodes and above so either this has been patch or it works up to Iron then doesn't work above Iron till Orichalcum and then it works again.. have not tested on gold or mithril.

The item states that it has a greater chance of recovering rares. Rares being classified as unid dyes, loot sacks rare gems not that I have ever seen a dye or loot sack from mining however I have from logging. That being said I have yet to see any increase rare items while using it for Orichalcum. In fact I'm unsure if it returns any rares at all while harvesting Orichalcum. I've yet to note a rare while using it out of about 75 of the 125 uses. However with Orichalcum nodes being so few and far between and then rares being even fewer and farther between while using Orichalcum tools I have yet to come to a determination if Orichalcum even HAS rares. I would assume because on my collectible tab in bank there are rare gems that I have yet to see. RNG hates me.

Its possible that this item returns more rares for Iron and below and just mines anything up without any bonus or possibly even ruins gold and mithril and just returns Orichulum no rares on those few nodes. Lordmd above mentions ruined plants with the sickle version above. Before I run out this item i will find a gold node and mithril node and give it a chance to see if it currently receives ruined ore. I'll also create a login ^.^ [Strike]

Number of uses in infobox[edit]

Why don't we put the number of uses of each tool in the infobox? Now it is in the notes section and i find it useful to see it directly in the infobox. Please discuss K4zimir 13:27, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

Master gathering tools[edit]

I have the assumption that these tools allow you to gather level aprpriate things. So a lavel 80 character with a master pick could gather oricalcum ore, a level 20 character could only gather copper. - Yandere Talk to me... 10:03, 2 October 2012 (UTC)

Gathering tool costs per use[edit]

Brief table re-work showing cost per use data. Formatting is shocking and some info isn't technically correct but it will do for now.

Harvesting Sickle Type Level Cost Uses Cost/Use Nodes (plus any lower level)
Copper Harvesting Sickle any 24 Copper coin 50 0.4Copper coin Blueberries, Button Mushrooms, Onions, Carrots, Herb Seedlings, Potatoes, Lettuce
Iron Harvesting Sickle 10 56 Copper coin 50 1.1Copper coin Taproots, Spinach, Strawberries, Herb Sprouts, Clams
Steel Harvesting Sickle 20 88 Copper coin 50 1.7Copper coin Zucchini, Kale, Root Vegetables, Varied Mushrooms, Young Herbs, Grapes, Cabbage
Darksteel Harvesting Sickle 30 Silver coin 20 Copper coin 50 2.Copper coin Blackberries, Variegated Taproots, Scallions, Portobello Mushroom, Mature Herbs, Sugar Pumpkins, Cauliflower, Coral
Mithril Harvesting Sickle 45 Silver coin 60 Copper coin 50 3.Copper coin Asparagus Spears, Cayenne Peppers, Leeks, Winter Root Vegetables, Raspberries, Verdant Herbs, Butternut Squash, Artichokes
Orichalcum Harvesting Sickle 60 Silver coin 50 Copper coin Ghost Peppers, Omnomberries, Orrian Truffles, Black Crocus, Seaweed, Lotus
Black Lion Harvesting Sickle any Chest 10 n/a Same as Orichalcum Harvesting Sickle
Master Harvesting Sickle any Story 125 n/a Variable?
Worker's Sickle 34 119 Karma.png 50 2.38 Karma.png Same as Darksteel Harvesting Sickle
Foraging Sickle any 658 Karma.png 25 26.32 Karma.png Unknown
Logging Axe Type Level Cost Uses Cost/Use Used to gather (plus any lower level) Nodes (plus any lower level)
Copper Logging Axe any 24 Copper coin 100 0.2Copper coin Green Wood Log Aspen Sapling, Kertch Sapling, Ekku Sapling
Iron Logging Axe 10 56 Copper coin 100 0.5Copper coin Soft Wood Log Mimosa Sapling, Gummo Sapling, Snow Cherry Sapling
Steel Logging Axe 20 88 Copper coin 100 0.8Copper coin Seasoned Wood Log Tukawa Sapling, Fir Sapling
Darksteel Logging Axe 30 Silver coin 20 Copper coin 100 1.Copper coin Hard Wood Log Banyan Sapling, Pine Sapling, Inglewood Sapling
Mithril Logging Axe 45 Silver coin 60 Copper coin 100 1.Copper coin Elder Wood Log Red Oak Sapling, Cypress Sapling, Baoba Sapling
Orichalcum Logging Axe 60 Silver coin 100 Copper coin Ancient Wood Log Orrian Sapling, Ancient Sapling
Black Lion Logging Axe any Chest 25 n/a Ancient Wood Log Same as Orichalcum Logging Axe
Master Logging Axe any Story 125 n/a Same as Darksteel Logging Axe Same as Darksteel Logging Axe
Bun Yan Axe 20 77 Karma.png 100 0.77 Karma.png Same as Darksteel Logging Axe Same as Darksteel Logging Axe
Splitting Axe any 602 Karma.png 25 24.08 Karma.png Unknown Unknown
Mining Pick Type Level Cost Uses Cost/Use Nodes (plus any lower level)
Copper Mining Pick any 24 Copper coin 100 0.2Copper coin Copper Ore
Iron Mining Pick 10 56 Copper coin 100 0.5Copper coin Iron Ore, Silver Ore
Steel Mining Pick 20 88 Copper coin 100 0.8Copper coin Gold Ore
Darksteel Mining Pick 30 Silver coin 20 Copper coin 100 1.Copper coin Platinum Ore
Mithril Mining Pick 45 Silver coin 60 Copper coin 100 1.Copper coin Mithril Ore
Orichalcum Mining Pick 60 Silver coin 100 Copper coin Orichalcum Ore
Black Lion Mining Pick any Chest 25 n/a Orichalcum Ore
Master Mining Pick any Story 125 n/a See article for details
Pick Axe 32 112Karma.png 100 1.12 Karma.png Same as Darksteel Mining Pick
Mining Pick any 602 Karma.png 25 24.08 Karma.png Unknown

-81.149.242.18 11:21, 24 October 2012 (UTC)

Not necessarily the cost per use information, but why is the materials gathered for each specific tool level not listed on the main page? Also, there are special tools with differing character levels, some with standard charges, some with unusual number of charges, not listed. I tried using one of them on an Ori node, and it got back ruined ore. I think this needs further research as well. 99.16.209.125 20:26, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Non-standard variants with fewer uses (from karma vendors)[edit]

There are variations of the tools available that have fewer uses, but can be bought with karma. Does anyone know if that is intended? In any case, it should be mentioned here. Perhaps add a note? They have the same names as the regular version, but cost, charges and (at least in the case of the mithril sickle) description are different. --Cyberman 10:02, 11 November 2012 (UTC)

Sturdy gathering tools[edit]

Apart from being in stacks of 250 (the maximum possible number of items in 1 stack), do Sturdy variants have any other differences compared to the regular gathering tools? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 218.186.18.11 (talk).

Account Bound[edit]

If I remember correctly, last week, all gathering tools were souldbound to the character who purchase it from Merchant/Karma Merchant. Somehow, it is now Account Bound? Can anyone help to confirm this?? Paladinofmm 01:09, 20 November 2012 (UTC)

I think this is right true too. Previously Unsigned 02:57, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
I know for a fact that they use to be soulbound. I haven't checked yet/noticed if they're account bound now, because I simply haven't checked. But it definitely was soulbound originally. Was thwarted trying to second-hand them to my younger characters. —Jyavoc 02:59, 23 November 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, there was a game update on the 15th which changed them. Elwynd 14:00, 25 November 2012 (UTC)

Southsun Cove[edit]

Should be noted here that you can obtain Orichalcum Minig Picks for a rather cheap preice of 350 karma from Lionguard Demolitionist Varrv after completing his chain of 2 events in Bakestone Cavern in Southsun Cove. Not many people do this event and it is easily soloable if you can kill a veteran karka by yourself. The event appears often, but Varrv seems to sell them for a short amount of time. 95.180.84.110 03:18, 5 February 2013 (UTC)

Does anyone have stats on Advanced set?[edit]

The new set added with laurels and laurel venders, each costs 2 laurels and a required level of 45, uses are: Pick - 250 Sickle - 125 Axe - 250 But does anyone know what materials they work on?

Probably most people are too scared to buy them, worried that they'd be wasting laurels when they find out that they don't work on orichalcum/ancient. Since no one knows yet, why don't you do it and inform everyone else? —Dr Ishmael User Dr ishmael Diablo the chicken.png 03:02, 19 February 2013 (UTC)

Overlap with Gathering_tool and Gathering[edit]

Was wondering about clearing up some of the overlap between the gathering article and the gathering tool one. Maybe moving the bits about what each tool gathers, to the tools article? We have the same info twice, in slightly different formats, and neither page has everything I'd want to know. I don't want to make the tables too wide but was wondering whether to include the bit about which zone level is applicable. (That was actually the bit of info I wanted today, and of course it wasn't on this page, it was on the Gathering page.) Elwynd 07:39, 10 April 2013 (UTC)

I think the zone level applies more to the specific item than the tool, because there are what would be considered multiple *zones* material nodes on the same map. I have seen what you could consider a *copper* level area, Queensdale, have plant nodes that you need an Iron level tool on. 69.183.26.240 21:27, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Snow Truffles[edit]

It is not specifically listed but I would presume that Snow Truffles would fall under the Ori level sickle. However, it appears to be MIA. 69.183.26.240 21:29, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Just did further in game research, tried harvesting snow truffle with mithril, and it ruined the plant. Adding it to the list on Ori. 69.183.26.240 23:55, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Trimming of overview[edit]

Excuse me, but some of us don't want to have to have three separate tabs open just to know what is gatherable by which tools. I want that information at a glance, on one page/one location.

You can make an elitist argument that "well you should just be buying orichalcum tools by default anyway #economics", but in terms of wiki usability, that argument holds no water. I don't see how it's an improvement in any way to hide the most relevant and interesting information on more obscure pages. Vili 点 User talk:Vili 04:10, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

Addendum: I prefer this table over the one on Gathering because it's much more compact, so I can see the whole thing without scrolling. There is admittedly a lot of redundancy between Gathering, Gathering tool, and Node, but it looks like that discussion died a long time ago. Vili 点 User talk:Vili 04:51, 17 March 2014 (UTC)

You're excused; you are asking for what type of node can be interacted with by what type of tool based on the tier of the node and tier of the gathering tool. That should go on Gathering to show the relationship between the node and the tool rather than paste it on both Resource node (which needs its own page) and Gathering tool.--Relyk ~ talk < 05:30, 17 March 2014 (UTC)
Vili, much of the problem is you get people who work on the wiki, and get it in their heads, as many people in the game seem to do, that how they think things should be done should be the only way everyone else should ever want to do it. I saw this happen all the time on the wiki for GW, and I am hoping that is not going to be the case here, but it seems like it might be happening anyway. 99.16.209.125 20:38, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
This has nothing to do with the discussion. You can go post on Vili's talk page if you want.--Relyk ~ talk < 20:50, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Availability of infinite versions[edit]

Regarding "Each gathering tool has an infinite version that does not run out of charges and can be purchased from the Gem Store for gems."... Is this statement correct 100% of the time, or are such tools only available for short periods? | phineas | (talk) 11:07, 18 July 2014 (UTC)

The latter. There tends to be only one type on offer at a time, too. Took me a while to get my mismatched set. — snogratUser Snograt signature.png 11:36, 18 July 2014 (UTC)
Not totally true either Snog, there have been times (I remember one time specifically) when they had 1 of each tool type (1 sickle, 1 pick, and 1 axe) for sale all at the same time. The fact that they are infinite use is true all the time. They can only be purchased from the gem store, also true. They do have limited time availability. 99.16.209.125 20:34, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

Are Frostbitten gathering tools available from Gathering Merchants?[edit]

Referring to these tools:
Frostbitten Orichalcum Mining Pick
Frostbitten Orichalcum Logging Axe
Frostbitten Orichalcum Harvesting Sickle
If not, is there a reliable way to obtain them outside of Wintersday? --138.75.82.239 17:31, 31 July 2018 (UTC)