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Math Goblins

They are the worst. -Darqam 05:19, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

What if the prize is actually a goat? That would mean you have a 100% chance of receiving a goat. I want a goat. —Ventriloquist 16:25, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
It doesn't say you get the goat. Just that the doors hide goats. If you open a goat door he'll probably be angry you ruined his hiding spot and headbutt you. —Azurem 17:18, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
I am no longer working with the math goblin cabal. I mastered the art of mathmagic over a decade ago, and now torture children freelance, with their parents' blessing. G R E E N E R 21:16, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
... That sounds like something a math goblin would say. -Darqam 21:21, 3 January 2017 (UTC)
I'm green for a reason. G R E E N E R 21:23, 3 January 2017 (UTC)

French help

I was just trying to find out if an NPC's french wiki link was correct(it wasn't) and now I'm a whole heap of "Stuff is wrong but this is beyond my limited French so heellppp". On the French wiki, fr:Tromperie is incorrectly linked to a historical NPC and I have no idea what they meant to link to here. The only mesmer related thing I could find called "Deception" is a "Deception (mesmer skill)" a downed skill, that has no page there (though they have the icon "Fichier:Duperie.png") or fr:Se téléporter should have been it but it's all sorts of wrong. To boot, the icon they use is for Shadow Escape, a thief skill, that we have tagged as a mesmer icon and I have no idea why. I'm very confused here, and just want to fix interwikis that aren't right, so can you help please? =< - Doodleplex 23:04, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Heading out, so at a quick glance, fr:Tromperie is our Shatter Skill Recharge Rate. Will look at others later for you. 23:27, 18 January 2017 (UTC)
Fixed the File:Shadow Escape.png category. It used to be a mes skill, but now belongs to thieves. G R E E N E R 03:58, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
A quick note about the fr wiki icons. Don't trust them. Never trust the fr wiki icons. I've gone around fixing god knows how many of them from simply being the wrong ones, or someone uploaded all the versions (from each class) of the same skill name in one file and no one bothered to fix it. -Darqam 04:21, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Also, my survival French is in a terrible state right now. I was confused between dois and veux for far too long... As a Canadian, I hang my head. As a West Coast Canadian, I forgive myself. G R E E N E R 04:24, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
If you do need french help, I can always assist, I am still very fluent, although written grammar was never my strong suit. -Darqam 04:42, 19 January 2017 (UTC)
Noted and appreciated! G R E E N E R 05:59, 19 January 2017 (UTC)

(Reset indent) cmon Greener... you disapoint me here. -Darqam 04:57, 20 January 2017 (UTC)

Oh god... In my defense, I did have ~10 or so tabs open for all of the other pages, but considering that was the last thing I did, I shouldn't have been distracted (or at least I should have verified the link). Thanks! I also don't know why I just didn't make an account there earlier and waited for their filter to trust me. I never did claim to be smart. G R E E N E R 07:49, 20 January 2017 (UTC)


Psssst. Shinies here. *runs away all skritt-like* - Doodleplex 23:53, 8 February 2017 (UTC)

Lol, and why can't I spend my time saving them to my hard drive and then uploading them again? Huh? Huh?! I should get food. G R E E N E R 23:55, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Question too hard for skritt. Wants foods not questions! - Doodleplex 23:59, 8 February 2017 (UTC)
Odd that I didn't get a "duplicate image" warning for the ones I uploaded. Ah well. G R E E N E R 00:04, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Wait, File:1634853.png and File:Bronze Cairn the Indomitable Trophy.png seem to be different colours. Is that just me? G R E E N E R 00:09, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
It's because the file sizes are different. And it's just you. - Doodleplex 00:11, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Alright, I'll leave it to those who know better to decide which one to keep. <-- I call that delegating and then running. G R E E N E R 00:19, 9 February 2017 (UTC)
Just go get food you goof lol. (Oh and thanks for the snow, it's suppose to arrive tomorrow. =D) - Doodleplex 00:24, 9 February 2017 (UTC)


I was going through my unending list of new items only to find that at some point you seemed to have covered the rest of them. It is a very nice surprise, thank you! -Darqam 15:56, 10 February 2017 (UTC)

Honestly planned to do more than I did, but got sidetracked by life. I'm glad others have also come around and cleaned up a lot of the gaps in the decoration pages! G R E E N E R 21:38, 11 February 2017 (UTC)

Not all who wonder...

...also wander. But not all who wander are lost. Also blue's my favorite colour. - Doodleplex 05:24, 14 February 2017 (UTC)

See, it was the fact that I ignored the colour, but paid attention to it being your favourite which was my downfall. G R E E N E R 08:20, 14 February 2017 (UTC)
You never did get back to me if you figured this out. Anyway, the chair picture turned out awesome. XD - Doodleplex 08:18, 17 February 2017 (UTC)
Yes, I did get it done, much appreciated. And I really should have redone those shoulders before you took a picture... G R E E N E R 08:26, 17 February 2017 (UTC)

Many Thanks!

Thank you very much for updating the Gem Store pages — I didn't quite get around to it after all yesterday, unfortunately. You earned yourself my (and Evon's for sure too!) gem stamp of approval! Now sign here and here and sell your soul to the Black Lion Trading Company! Much obliged! User Incarnazeus Signature.pngtalk 11:12, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

No problem! It'll take me a bit to get used to your system, which I'm really starting to appreciate. I cannot promise you the full ten months of being on top of things, but I'm sure the wiki will figure things out. G R E E N E R 16:52, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
Much appreciated, thank you! It's not like I'm gone for good during this time (hopefully), I'm confident I can lend a hand sometimes (and to be honest, I don't really want to miss that much content in-game either, not with the upcoming expansion!) and worst case I can be reached via diverse ways (reddit, mail, smoke signals, what have you — though pigeons or bottle messages might take a while). User Incarnazeus Signature.pngtalk 17:48, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Another Round of Thanks

Thanks for managing things these past two days! I was a bit under the weather I guess. Have a squirrel as a token of my appreciation. ;) User Incarnazeus Signature.pngtalk 09:39, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

SQUIRREL!-Darqam 14:52, 22 May 2017 (UTC)
That dog should never play GW... And no worries. I, too, was distracted by things outside of - Oh look, a duck! *Quack* G R E E N E R 16:28, 22 May 2017 (UTC)

Regarding RFA archiving

Oy. Next time you're making an RFA for someone who's had one previously (or really any kind of archiving-by-moving), leave the 'leave a redirect' box checked and edit over the redirect so it keeps the archive in the history. Also give it categories. You made it a pain in the ass to check back on the old RFA. - Tanetris (talk) 16:30, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

Son-of-a... Really sorry there with the move. Completely skipped my mind that having the move log in the history was advantageous. I viewed the new page as something which might end up heading to Guild Wars 2 Wiki:Requests for adminship/Doodleplex/Archive 2 and be self-encapsulated from Archive 1 (i.e. each RfA holding its own history). I'll use the move-with-redirect more often.
As for the category, 'twas deleted along the way, but I've now added it back. G R E E N E R 16:52, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
And, willing to bet that will cause a EC with you. You have my advanced apologies this time. G R E E N E R 16:56, 19 April 2017 (UTC)
I was editing the talk page first anyway. Also when writing a WoT I generally type in a gedit window first anyway, then c&p to browser. - Tanetris (talk) 17:56, 19 April 2017 (UTC)

MF recipes


So about those. Basically I hardcoded 3 of 4 items for those since they always follow the same structure. Some day it might bite me in the ass, but so far no. The last item is assumed to be the ring by the same name but one 'level' lower. So far the only time this has been an issue is with the Mist Band (Infused) which had no non-infused version, but I assumed had one.

Also regarding the issue with the website, it doesn't seem to be continuing, and seems to be limited to like 70% of the Perfected Armor pages. So, so long as you avoid those, everything should still remain as normal. I'm still going to work on a new version of the website that doesn't take 30 seconds to load a damn page, but that will be still a ways down the line. -Darqam 03:06, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the update. I'm not bothered by the load times as I'm often opening up other tabs while that's processing. I noticed the armour, and thanks for doing all of that manual work with them yesterday. G R E E N E R 03:29, 4 May 2017 (UTC)
As a follow-up, Anet gave us The Wayfarer's Henge (infused) which doesn't have (Infused) appended to its name, so I manually added | infused = y and the recipe. Not a big deal, but just made me shake my head a bit. Thought you'd be amused. G R E E N E R 07:42, 18 May 2017 (UTC)
Are you f.... REALLY!? REALLY!?!?!?!?!? *sigh*. Well, I can build a workaround for back pieces, but unfortunately not for rings, since there's no way of knowing if the infusion slot is from attuning or infusing. I swear, every time we think we've seen the worst consistency... -Darqam 13:18, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Gem Store Watch

Already edit-conflicting me now, eh? You're on a good way! I approve. ;) User Incarnazeus Signature.pngtalk 17:10, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

Ha! I just did a circle trying to figure out how the cubs were already "Unavailable". G R E E N E R 17:10, 5 May 2017 (UTC)
:P User Incarnazeus Signature.pngtalk 17:13, 5 May 2017 (UTC)

GW2W EM website

Heya Greener (and whoever is stalking this),

So I think I've got the beta version of my website ready for (some) use and would like to start getting feedback on it. I'm still fairly actively working on it but it should be able to output most infoboxes just fine.

I have yet to get work done on achievements, so don't bother trying those; does nothing at all.

Noticeable changes should be the (MUCH) faster infobox load times, and slightly prettier list output. Also my favorite, it will tell you if the icon you are looking it appears again for other items, giving you a place to look for existing icons.

Anyway, the current page is GW2W_Easy_Mode beta, the 'view new entries' does also work, but since the database is brand new it doesn't really have much worthwhile history yet.

So yeah, if you happen to use the website I'd appreciate if you tried out the beta version and gave me whatever feedback you have about it. Whether it be about how it looks, an error you found, or information missing; I'd be glad to hear it.

p.s: Sorry about the rant but I've been wanting to splurt this out to someone for a while now so there it is. -Darqam 03:20, 10 May 2017 (UTC)

Hey I have no idea what you're doing but I'm impressed, keep it up 👍 - Felix Omni 05:00, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
Probably need to replace newlines in descriptions with <br>. Example for "78657". -Chieftain AlexUser Chieftain Alex sig.png 06:28, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
Oooo! Much faster load times, no doubt! I'll try to play with it more over the next few days (been rather busy). I'd love to see it handling the icons like you say it will. G R E E N E R 16:56, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
@Chieftain: issue is fixed thanks.
@Felix: basically it's a webpage to make a base infobox by pulling info from the API, more info here: User:Darqam/GW2W Easy Mode
@Greener: Sure, whenever you can. It's now muuuuuch easier to maintain on my end as well, so most changes can be done easily now (I hope). Also, the formatting for the icon list is not pretty at the moment, but it does work example Making pretty is not my strong suit, so I'll leave it as a problem for future Darqam. -Darqam 17:29, 10 May 2017 (UTC)
I noticed that the wardrobe skin portion doesn't pick up the "description" which some skins have. E.g. 81001 misses the description for wardrobe skin 7208. G R E E N E R 09:37, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Thanks, I completely forgot about skin descriptions. Should be working now. I've also added a minimal implementation for the achievements back in; but that's going to be missing a ton of cases since I can't remember any of them. So if you happen to see broken stuff there, don't hesitate to speak up either. -Darqam 14:36, 11 May 2017 (UTC)
Item 79921 gives type = immediate. I know what you're trying to do there, but our infoboxes currently don't appreciate it as much as I do. G R E E N E R 18:03, 12 May 2017 (UTC)
That was actually a case of me not filtering it out and inserting straight from the API. Fixed for now thanks! -Darqam 18:40, 12 May 2017 (UTC)

Historical acquisition

Just curious, why remove the fact that originally it came from historical content? Was that false, did it not come from that dungeon? - Doodleplex 21:20, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

Woops, that got removed while checking other templates (i.e. I copy/pasted the list on my user page and deleted the null results). Will add that back in. G R E E N E R 21:28, 16 May 2017 (UTC)
Okiedokie. Since I wasn't playing GW2 at the time, for all I knew you took it out cause it was wrong heh. - Doodleplex 21:36, 16 May 2017 (UTC)

That copy paste

The spanish one I was talking about. I put it at the bottom of my To Do page. If icons don't work, don't worry about it, it's on the to do list. ¡Gracias! - Doodleplex 01:55, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

Much appreciated. I'll take a look at it probably later tonight. G R E E N E R 17:26, 7 June 2017 (UTC)

No idea where to put this, but you seem nice...

I was wondering if a page in the Wiki detailing which items use the 'Consume All' or other 'X all' features would be helpful. Hope this isn't out of line. Thanks. Inculpatus cedo (talk) 05:30, 13 June 2017 (UTC)>== Notes

Honest questions are never out of line. I think such information would do well on the Consumable page, either as a table in a == Consume all == section or as a bullet point under a == Notes == section. I'm also willing to bet that Ventriloquist will swing by with a far more appropriate section name, but feel free to run with either of those.
Just did a quick look at some items. It seems like we'd be searching for those with the flag "BulkConsume". E.g. Essence of Luck. Perhaps one of our clever API folks will know of a way to gather a quick list, though I can only think of Luck, Snowflakes, and some Slivers at the moment. G R E E N E R 08:20, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
Ah, well, it was just an idea. I certainly would not have the skills to create something like that. I do hope someone does, though. Thanks for the feedback. =) Inculpatus cedo (talk) 08:45, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
Here's a quick but important piece of info: There are a lot of great people who keep an eye on the Recent Changes page who are more than willing to help out.
For instance, your idea is great. But others can follow it up in their own creative ways. Perhaps:
  1. You put under the Notes section of Consumables that some items can be right-clicked and consumed/used as a group.
  2. Someone else adds to your note by making a list of items that fit that description.
  3. Someone else creates a redirect so that if someone searches "Consume all" on the wiki, it will take them to your note.
  4. Someone else may go to the pages of the items which can be bulk consumed and adds a note to the bottom of all of them.
All this process takes is one person to start the ball rolling, and then we have the joy of seeing where it goes. G R E E N E R 08:55, 13 June 2017 (UTC)
I'd honestly put that information in the introduction paragraph. Notes might be a bit too obscure for such a useful feature. The redirects would certainly help, too. —Ventriloquist 22:43, 13 June 2017 (UTC)

One of Us

I approve. User Incarnazeus Signature.pngtalk 19:52, 16 June 2017 (UTC)

At dawn, we ride!... I just don't remember where we're going, or why we have these banners that say "30% Off!" and "Sale Ending Soon!" G R E E N E R 19:58, 16 June 2017 (UTC)
My stack of Ellen Kiel support buttons is disgusted. —Ventriloquist 00:57, 17 June 2017 (UTC)

This may be of interest

Again, I've no idea which page this information would go on, or if it is already part of the Wiki. I tried a 'search', nothing came up. Here's a link to a Dev post: I know I found it informative. =) Thanks. Inculpatus cedo (talk) 21:40, 23 June 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for keeping an eye on the Dev tracker! I haven't been able to look at it for the past bit. Apparently this was added to Chat command#Queries, but it's new to me (I habitually move after using /stuck and seeing it do nothing). I create a redirect to the info with Stuck. G R E E N E R 01:04, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
You are welcome. I edited the page to include the information I was unaware of (the cool-downs, and such). I knew about the 30 second part, but could not find the /stuck command (article) in the Wiki to edit. Thanks for the redirect; that's what I tried to search with. =) Inculpatus cedo (talk) 01:13, 24 June 2017 (UTC)
The additional details help a lot (I'd only scanned the dev comment, and didn't notice it said "any other activity"). G R E E N E R 01:25, 24 June 2017 (UTC)

Your Suggestion

Hi Greener, I tried your suggestion and got this error message ::

 "The name "ZianaSue" is too similar to the following username:
 Please choose another name."

When I first signed up I typed "ZianaSue" but when I went into my profile it said "Zianasue" and I haven't figured out how to change that. ZianaSue 2017-6-25

Hmm, I'll do some digging when I get back tonight and see if we can get that resolved. G R E E N E R 21:12, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
Looks like you ran into the AntiSpoof extension. Out of curiosity, would you be inclined to use "Ziana Sue" as two words? Just asking in case you didn't know that spaces were allowed. G R E E N E R 01:58, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
That could work. I've actually never thought of using it as two words, like ever. ZianaSue (talk) 09:13, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Greener can use Special:RenameUser, no need to create another account. -Chieftain AlexUser Chieftain Alex sig.png 11:39, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Well, yes I apparently can. Today's a great day for doing more research. If only there were a list of such things.
ZianaSue, I've now registered your user name as "ZianaSue". G R E E N E R 14:27, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Congratulations for being (a) a bureaucrat, (b) the first bureaucrat to really use the Special:RenameUser function! (other than pling doing a test) -Chieftain AlexUser Chieftain Alex sig.png 17:00, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Hope this is OK

Congratulations. Hope it's all you imagine, and we still see you around. Good luck. Inculpatus cedo (talk)

It's not ok, greener will now ban you with his new found power! congrats Greener, plz no ban -Darqam 21:51, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
Ha. Funny. Inculpatus cedo (talk) 22:01, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
Congratulations Greener! Does this mean you're no longer 'green'? Hah. —Ventriloquist 22:38, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
Or he’s just green-er than before now…? poke | talk 22:52, 25 June 2017 (UTC)
Poke has exactly the right sentiment; pin an "In Training" tag on my shirt. Obviously I'll be making mistakes like I always do, so remember that this talk page is wide open as I try to glean as much wisdom as I can from Tanetris and poke. G R E E N E R 01:58, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Congratulations from me as well, Greener! You'll do a good job, I'm sure of it. I totally did not spend over an hour to find something fitting, nope. User Incarnazeus Signature.pngtalk 11:45, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

It's hard to say no to Robert Frost, though I will note that the leaves in the poem appear not to be turning greener ; ). G R E E N E R 14:27, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Perhaps, but the road taken was greener than the other at first glance -- and did make a difference. ;) User Incarnazeus Signature.pngtalk 14:54, 26 June 2017 (UTC)
Such repartee before coffee ensures I'll be one step behind. /bow G R E E N E R 14:58, 26 June 2017 (UTC)

Taking my sabbatical

As I'm sure you're all aware, it is incumbent upon those in the upper echelon of the wiki to take a (paid) leave of absence in order to study important topics which cannot be done from a computer chair. While I admit that my grant application has not yet been accepted, I will be striking forth today knowing that my research on the inverse relationship between the amount of sun my skin sees and the number of edits I make on the wiki will garner me great respect amongst my peers.

In the wake of my absence, do keep an eye on that darn gem store sale. I'm sure Inc will be around, but everyone deserves a chance to take a break ; ). I'll be back to editing on Tuesday. G R E E N E R 15:33, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

Enjoy yourself! And no worries, I've got the sales covered. ;) See you! User Incarnazeus Signature.pngtalk 16:00, 30 June 2017 (UTC)

notification that a guild member logged in or out.

hi. I turned off the notification whenever a guild member arrives or logs out. I got notified way too many times. But now, can I turn it on again? The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) at 05:02, 3 July 2017‎ (UTC).

Hey, just got in the door, and I see that this is nearly a day late so my apologies. I am currently not logged in, but I do have a quick clarification question for you:
  • Is the guild member also your friend? If so, you can click on the little arrow along the top of the chat box. This will give you a drop down menu. One of the side menus of that is labeled "Game messages". When you click on that, you should have an option to show when friends come online or offline.
  • If the guild member wasn't a friend, then either there's a similar option to the above for guild members, or it's located elsewhere and someone else will have to hop over here to help.
But, seeing as how this is a day late, I'm hoping you've already found what you were looking for. If not, let me know and I'll go over things tomorrow. G R E E N E R 06:41, 4 July 2017 (UTC)

Extended editor request

Alex suggested that it was about time I was upgraded to extended editor, and I agree! I move pages fairly often, so being able to suppress redirects would be really useful for me. (And Alex too, probably. I'm imagine he's sick of deleting all the redirects left in my wake. :p) Would you consider extending me? --Idris (talk) 01:38, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Absolutely my pleasure to do so. G R E E N E R 15:57, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
Thank you! And apologies in advance for all the inevitable accidental rollbacks I make now there's a big one-click button next to every revision log, hoo boy. --Idris (talk) 15:59, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
Been there, done that. Doubt there's been an extended editor who hasn't accidentally pressed that button at one time. :P Hope you're enjoying the exclamation marks already! User Incarnazeus Signature.pngtalk 16:07, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
Once upon a time there was a bit of code you could slap in your personal skin .js to hide the rollback button. Alas, that technology has been lost to us. - Felix Omni 16:12, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
Most of my rollback goofs are when I'm mobile because I'm clumsy, so as long as you're not me, I think you'll be fine heh. - Doodleplex 16:16, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

(Reset indent) @Felix: You mean this?

 /** Removing patrolled markers and option to mark as patrolled when viewing edit differences **/
 .unpatrolled, .patrollink { visibility: hidden; }

(Stole it from Darqam's post on my talk page) User Incarnazeus Signature.pngtalk 16:29, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Yeah that's similar. The rollback link CSS is on Help:Extended editor. Maybe we should add the patrol bit too. -Chieftain AlexUser Chieftain Alex sig.png 17:28, 31 July 2017 (UTC)
Man, you guys are Johnnies on-top-of-it. - Felix Omni 18:17, 31 July 2017 (UTC)

Data Keys

Unless mine were bugged, the data keys aren't actual items that go into your inventory, they're just notched off in the achievement panel once you find one. - Doodleplex 19:24, 1 August 2017 (UTC)

Ah, I was just grabbing data off of the API. I haven't done any of those collections. Is it preferable to not include them? G R E E N E R 19:26, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
I wouldn't since it's not an actual item/just an achievement panel indicator thing and could confuse people. Same thing for the pages of the books for the other new achievements, especially because they all get put into one collection-book-thing. - Doodleplex 19:33, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Alright, noted! G R E E N E R 19:35, 1 August 2017 (UTC)
Going to have to somewhat disagree here. Plenty of legendary weapon collectibles don't go into the player's inventory, but we still keep pages for them. —Ventriloquist 13:15, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
While true, it's basically similar to how we never made pages for each piece of Cladabog(or however it's spelled) for Shards of a Thorn, none of the data keys enter the player's inventory at all nor did the shards. - Doodleplex 15:17, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
I am of the opinion those should have been documented as well (I don't think/remember we ever discussed this). There's only four shards and the fact that they're intangible should not prevent us from having articles tied to them. We have articles for [[Begin the Journey: The Colossus|items]] that will absolutely never be obtainable by players or be found in their inventory, so why should this be an exception?
It won't confuse anyone if we denote them properly. All of the items have different names, so I fail to see how e.g. Parable of Lyssa, Page 2 would confuse anyone, since it's clear that it's tied to the Storyteller: Lyssa collection. By the same logic, we should delete the numerous items created for similar collections? Not having those documented makes the wiki feel unfinished to me, especially since they have api entries. If they were non-inventory items without IDs or icons (!!!) then I wouldn't even be discussing this. But as it stands, I think they should be included on the wiki. —Ventriloquist 15:43, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
An example of a collection that does not have item ID's associated with it is Rock Collector and its Firestone Shards.
Shard of Caladbolg could be changed from an interactable object page to an item page with {{Item variant table row}}, or in another form. G R E E N E R 15:56, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
I'd prefer we keep it as an object page, since the object is the one that supplies the items. Not sure how we'd add the items as a section though. —Ventriloquist 16:28, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I did the Bloodstone pages when the episode came out, so it's been a while and I honestly didn't remember if they were trophy items or just notches. Since people made pages for them I assumed they were tangible items/trophies and didn't see the issue, and that's my point, I'd rather not confuse people. For the data key, I did expect it to be a physical object that went into my inventory, but it's not, and was worried I had a bug. The pages of of the parables of the gods all go into one book, Parables of the Gods (incomplete)(and then complete when you have that one), which has a completely different icon that what the current pages use-the page icon is just the indicator icon in the achievement panel. I think the main trick here is all of these recent achievements are just like finding all of the Karka's in LA, you're looking for stuff in certain places but the objects you find aren't actually collected, just notched off in the panel, so I wouldn't call them a collection. - Doodleplex 16:36, 3 August 2017 (UTC)

Sigil Recipes for deletion

Based on the talk page, I'm not sure what to make of the two recipes you tagged for deletion. What's wrong with "Recipe: Minor Sigil of Renewal (rare)" and "Recipe: Major Sigil of Renewal (masterwork)"? The only thing I can see is it looks like the id's are switched. - Doodleplex 23:36, 2 August 2017 (UTC)

Anet had previously mixed up all the rarities and names for those recipes. They recently fixed them, and I've properly relocated the recipes. ID 44718 is now on Recipe: Major Sigil of Renewal and ID 44717 is now on Recipe: Minor Sigil of Renewal. So the two pages marked for deletion are not needed. G R E E N E R 01:46, 3 August 2017 (UTC)


Hey, thanks! Will help with some of them, though a lot have been updated in PoF (# of targets, range, barrier, maximum stacks etc.) so I just decided to make them all so they're all consistent. The ones in the API look kinda weird next to the ones I've made from screenshots and editing (lots of sharpness) so until we get all the new ones I've been making some. Unless they are already in and I'm unaware? Btw, wish there was a way to preview icons so I didn't have to upload so many (sorry!)

**edit, I'm finding some more. I'll update the icons as I find them!

Zolaro (talk) 00:31, 6 August 2017 (UTC)

Some older icons, like the effects for File:Range.png etc., can be updated directly from the API right now. Newer icons, like for the new skills, only need quick and dirty temp versions; we'll get the better versions from the API when the expansion comes along. G R E E N E R 00:32, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
I've gone ahead and made new ones in the style of the API ones, they're all consistent now :D Zolaro (talk) 02:44, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Wonderful to hear, and much appreciated! G R E E N E R 03:11, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
As a follow-up, I see that some of the icons we were using were tango icons (icons that we made which look close to the actual icon). I've asked for the actual 32x32 icons to be used on the {{effect infobox}} instead. G R E E N E R 05:36, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
A little confused by what that means. The previous icons are from the API (which is what the game displays) which I thought were the "actual" icons? Now half the icons use the old style and half use the newer official style... Zolaro (talk) 18:17, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
The icons whose names ended with 40px were community created (tango) icons, not official ones. the {{effect infobox}} has been set up to look for those versions first. As an example, we have File:Knockback.png at 32x32, and File:Knockback 40px.png at 40x40. The infobox always finds the 40px version, and assigns "Knockback 40px" as the proper icon for Knockback. I had not realized the predominance of such tango icons in lieu of ones from the API.
All of the effect icons that you uploaded can now be found on the regularly named file pages: File:Stun.png instead of File:Stun 40px.png; File:Float.png instead of File:Float 40px.png; etc. I also uploaded a few others such as File:Bleeding.png.
I asked on the Effect infobox talk page for this to be looked into, but there are a few icons which may still not have proper official versions. G R E E N E R 18:34, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
Ah okay, that makes sense. Hopefully it gets fixed! The preceding unsigned comment was added by Zolaro (talkcontribs) at 18:35, 15 August 2017‎ (UTC).
I should hunt around to find the discussion on using tangos. They are cleaner and easier to see, especially for profession icons, but I'd like to find out if there are other reasons we've been using them. G R E E N E R 17:24, 16 August 2017 (UTC)

Request for extended editor rights

With the August 8, 2017 update, some traits have been renamed. I don't like leaving unnecessary redirects (/history pages), so I'd like to be able to suppress these. Am I worthy of more rights? —Nefastu 09:45, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Beware the rollback button ; ) G R E E N E R 19:49, 9 August 2017 (UTC)
Thank you for the promotion! At least there won't be random rollbacks from RC or my watchlist (or so I hope). :D —Nefastu 21:13, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

Darn you know what you did. I'm grumpy cat all day and just want to be all cat and left alone to grump and then you did that thing and made me be less grumpy and more "awwww". Sighhhhhhhh. you remember where we were when we saw Naomi? I think she may be a reference to Naomi Baker, one of Anet's artists. - Doodleplex 04:12, 22 August 2017 (UTC)

The only place other than home instances which I remember seeing with you was the beta. Was that the artist by the docks? G R E E N E R 06:30, 22 August 2017 (UTC)
I thought I told you but if I didn't, yeah it was the artist by the docks(the one I dubbed "my NPC" in my deluded state of mind XD), but I have no idea what that area was called. - Doodleplex 19:15, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
If you look at Amnoon Oasis on File:Crystal Oasis map.jpg, you'll see two building, each with four blue squares on them. The NPC was NW of the SW building. Not sure what that area was called, either, but perhaps you can find its name on a site like that_shaman's. G R E E N E R 20:13, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
The earlier version of the map says that's probably the Free City of Amoon, so that's one thing figured out. Unfortunately as I took no screenshots, I have none of her ambient dialogue, and I'm hoping she had a generic model. Oh boy... >_< Anet needs to not have demo's when I'm on vacation. Bah. XD - Doodleplex 20:22, 24 August 2017 (UTC)
The northeast building was the Amnoon Civic Center, and the one to the right of the southwest blue tiled building was the gambling den - I don't think the southwest one had a name. -Chieftain AlexUser Chieftain Alex sig.png 20:28, 24 August 2017 (UTC)


....says hi! - Doodleplex 07:18, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

SQUIRREL! User Incarnazeus Signature.pngtalk 09:17, 28 August 2017 (UTC)
Just when I thought I was out... they showed me a perch I could jump to. G R E E N E R 16:15, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

New items


so API is now up, spat out about 1.3k new items fun times ahead. *cry*. -Darqam 00:49, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Done for now, a scroll bar has never made me so sad before. Anyway, I started from the bottom and will continue to do so. If you want to try and avoid conflict, might be better to start from the top? Going to be conflict regardless though, but at least some time has passed so some pages are already up. -Darqam 03:21, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
Yay!!... yay?... sigh... Okay, I just got in after a very long day. I'm going to set aside some time tomorrow to get these done (new clients are messing around with my normal schedule). I'll start from the top, and see what can be done. I was also going to possibly look at new pages made on the wiki, but that may be such duplicate work that I may not have time for it. G R E E N E R 03:58, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
I'm hoping today leaves me with more brain power. My recent edits should show you were I stand. I don't think I can handle copy/paste atm ; ). G R E E N E R 04:59, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Regarding Harrier's Bounty Hunter's Vambraces, we keep the prefix if it's the only armor piece available. —Ventriloquist 16:49, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for catching that, seeing as how my comment should have been hidden under that multi-edit collapse! G R E E N E R 16:52, 27 September 2017 (UTC)

IP Repeat offender

I'm mobile and won't be near a computer for a bit, can you check the IP I just blocked? They seem to have quite a block history... - Doodleplex 01:40, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

Did you mean their abuse log? Looks like someone was using that IP to try to spam things for eight months last year. Probably is/was a proxy IP. Not much we can do about that other than be happy the abuse filter works. The more recent stuff looks like your typical childish vandalism. G R E E N E R 15:30, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
The lesson I learned from that recent edit on your userpage was to not click random links... Ugh. (I checked and undid the edit while on mobile). User Incarnazeus Signature.pngtalk 15:44, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
Oh, the places you'll go. (Not the best voice for Dr. Seuss). G R E E N E R 15:48, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
:P User Incarnazeus Signature.pngtalk 16:48, 28 September 2017 (UTC)
Looks like Alex dealt with it. But it's still kinda weird how one IP would have that much of a "Rap Sheet". Also I loved that Dr. Suess book haha. XD - Doodleplex 18:12, 28 September 2017 (UTC)

hero icon don't work

When I click on hero icon it nothing comes up, however I just get a portrait on the lower left corner.

I have a sceenshot. The preceding unsigned comment was added by Spookydude (talk) at 13:51, 2 October 2017‎ (UTC).

Which hero icon are we talking about? If you can tell me which page this is happening on, we can definitely take a look. G R E E N E R 14:45, 2 October 2017 (UTC)
Might be a map widget (Template:Zone map v2) related thing - the API hasn't set any hero challenge ids for the path of fire challenges yet so I can't give them names, which causes it to be upset when the link is followed... and the user is dumped on the main page unceremoniously. -Chieftain AlexUser Chieftain Alex sig.png 17:58, 2 October 2017 (UTC)

Thanks and Stuff

Thank you so much for finishing switching out the remaining Gem Store bundle icons! Sorry for the troubles. :(

Unrelated; this is pure gold, my fellow child-eating animal friend. Almost as good as the "All in Vain" thing on the forums a few years back. How creative and embittered kids these days are! User Incarnazeus Signature.pngtalk 09:10, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

Oh, that was no kid. Just a clueless person who has no idea where to vent their anger. Once again, people don't understand that we're not Anet. Worthy of a few chuckles, but it makes me shake my head. How could someone put all that effort into such a pointless endeavor? They're apparently cognizant enough to type sentences, yet they can't read the first thing written at the top of our main page? Sigh... G R E E N E R 09:31, 8 October 2017 (UTC)
I try not to swear too much on here, but: What the fuck. --Idris (talk) 01:53, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
Contributors to the wiki come in many forms. G R E E N E R 02:11, 24 October 2017 (UTC)



Unforuantely Greener, nor anybody else on the wiki, can help you as it's run by other players, not staff members. If you're having trouble logging in, you need to contact support or go to the official forums. - Doodleplex 01:55, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
Also thanks Greener, it wouldn't let me do the things for whatever reason. Pft. - Doodleplex 02:05, 24 October 2017 (UTC)
I think we may have been ecing each other, there. I kept getting informed I had new messages when there were none ; ).
Steps to contact support
  1. Visit:
  2. Click on the "Account Security" subsection.
  3. Click on "Help with the Authenticator App" (or just go to
  4. Follow instructions as needed.
Hope this gets sorted for you. G R E E N E R 02:10, 24 October 2017 (UTC)

new items

Heya, so I got all the way up to item id `83179` (Convict's Ring) today, and it's becoming increasingly evident that everything above this is done. So did you get at least to that when you started from the top of day `2017-09-25`? Would like to call that overly massive list of items done if you have. After which I can move up to check the newer (yet not so new now) items. If you have systematically checked other days, would also be nice to know to avoid double the work. -Darqam 00:28, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

It's done and done. I caught up to where I found you were, as well. I don't have anything from the past couple of days. Last day I checked off was 2017-11-02. G R E E N E R 04:49, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
Awesome, I'm glad that the mass from PoF is done then. I'll slowly move on to the more recent days. I'll also take a look at yesterday's stuff, because I'm expecting broken stuff there due to new stuff, we shall see. -Darqam 13:10, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
The new item page is not yet showing anything after the 2nd for me. G R E E N E R 21:03, 8 November 2017 (UTC)
I see the same thing, but I also don't see other websites with newer items, so I think there's just nothing new on the api? -Darqam 22:27, 8 November 2017 (UTC)

The bot was right

...but I forgot to move the page to where it was supposed to go. I fixed it. Now I'm going to bed. - Doodleplex 08:42, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Ah, alright. G'night! G R E E N E R 08:45, 14 November 2017 (UTC)

Question about signature

Hello. I do not achieve to make my signature appeared colored. How do you do that?

Below how I have written it for now (I put * instead of < and >). It is in between [ [ and ] ], that I do not show here. Would you by chance see what is wrong and causes that I don't get my signature appearing green?

User talk:Tilu|*span style=" font-family:Georgia; color:green;" * */span*Tilu

Thank you :)

Hello. In the "new signature" signatures box on Special:Preferences, put the following in there: [[User talk:Tilu|<span style="font-family:Georgia; color:green;">'''Tilu'''</span>]], and then tick the box beneath saying "treat as wikitext".
You can take a look at Help:Signatures for additional information. -Chieftain AlexUser Chieftain Alex sig.png 07:41, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
Thanks for jumping on this one, Alex! G R E E N E R 07:56, 20 November 2017 (UTC)
Have understood my error. I was missing some " in the expression between font and color. Thanks a lot Alex. --Tilu 14:01, 20 November 2017 (UTC) :-)


So quick heads up, issue is solved, interwikis should be there. At the moment the script has issues when there are more than 200 items at once. I implemented a hard limit to avoid endless loops a while back (and needlessly spamming api), and never revisited it. If you see that happen, just visit the do_update.php page a few times and it should force update it all. Should be good for now though (and hopefully after things are done on new version on my end, not an issue again). -Darqam 01:01, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

Lovely to hear :). G R E E N E R 02:54, 29 November 2017 (UTC)

working on new version when

So I was updating things again a bit more, when I encountered this wonderful issue. I've been staring at this for a while and still can't figure it out. This is why I have a beta for the beta lol. -Darqam 18:56, 2 December 2017 (UTC)

Oh, now that seems fun ; ). It should totally be a feature. G R E E N E R 19:15, 2 December 2017 (UTC)
So another issue (which is on live) has to do with the `Elonian <weapon> design` items. Unfortunately they are built exactly like BL weapons in the API so the collection nav that's outputted in the end is borked. There really isn't a way to cleanly solve this at the moment, and so long as this doesn't happen again, I'm not going to bother. Figured I should give you a heads up though since you are going to encounter them soon enough I think. -Darqam 20:13, 2 December 2017 (UTC)