Guild Wars 2 Wiki:Admin noticeboard/Issue archive 2

When It's Ready

It is. For now. - Infinite - talk 15:10, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

Or so we thought; an admin will still need to replace the news section statics with the updated news template. Sorry for the inconvenience. And sorry for lying to Tanetris. - Infinite - talk 16:12, 17 March 2012 (UTC)

can we get a push thew of the updated links and feature article?- Zesbeer 02:37, 15 April 2012 (UTC)

Sorry, I'm not sure what you mean by "push thew." Has this already been handled? 06:52, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

no and what i mean by it is that there are link changes and a new feature that need to be synced up with the protected main page and that's what i mean by pushed thew. Edit:Gares Redstorm's last edit is where you can take the updated links from. - Zesbeer 07:58, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

(Reset indent) this is resolved and can be archived.- Zesbeer 09:35, 19 June 2012 (UTC)

User:Phoenix Inertia

User keeps ignoring wiki protocol and hides behind policies from external wikis to avoid conforming to this wiki's ways. Has been appointed of misbehaviour in the past and continues to refuse archiving their talk page. Appears to have a personal distaste of listening to users informing them what should and shouldn't be done (warning towards admins unfamiliar). Needs a final warning of some sort. - Infinite - talk 20:09, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

He seems to be a broadly constructive user that's making a few mistakes, like article moves and image names - nothing out of the ordinary for any new editor. I suspect there's an element of not wanting those mistakes be seen by all and sundry on his talk page, hence the removal and request to message him via email. He did appear to try archiving his page, so I don't think he's closed to that idea - he just needs help with it.

I don't think he's hiding behind Wikipedia policy, but perhaps conflating Wikipedia and "wiki" as part of the same thing, which is again a fairly common misunderstanding by new users.

Right now, I don't think there's any bad faith in what he's doing. Mediggo's explained quite well the Wikipedia issue, why using talk pages is useful, why archiving is better than deleting, and inviting him to ask for clarification if needed. We'll see what effect that has. pling 20:34, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Although you have probably noticed later on; [1]. I will now attempt to carefully explain archiving. - Infinite - talk 20:53, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

Or just make the archive page and link to it. I have a bigger issue with his lack of responding on-wiki than his failure to archive, honestly - emailing only isn't going to cut it. -Auron 20:56, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

The user is failing to behave in a manner fit for wiki or responding to the discussion in any useful way. Mediggo 23:33, 5 May 2012 (UTC)

His attitude continues to be disruptive, and from his current userpage it sounds like he hasn't learned anything from this at all. —Dr Ishmael 14:30, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

I feel this user is given ludicrous amounts of leeway. I understand we don't want users to feel like they're doing something devastatingly wrong, but the opposite is the case here; with the amount of careful approach given, it is clear this user is going to abuse the inconsistent approach the community has utilised. The image that remains is that of a laughable form of dealing with the actual problem; blowing caution and advice to the wind. - Infinite - talk 15:12, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

I agree with Infi, but I'd rather stay out of it for now, as Felix suggested on Phoenix's talk page. However, with all the advice and warning that has been given, as well as Pling's warning of possible block if going against community's consensus on this matter continues, I really don't see a reason to give this user a second chance should they continue to make their talk page unreadable in a way that is against common practice on GW2W. Mediggo 16:28, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

I did contact the user in question via e-mail last night and I am hoping for a favorable response. I urge everyone to not make a big deal out of this; it certainly sets a bad precedent for dealing with new editors, and we're going to be having a ton of them in the coming months. 16:32, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

I received a response from Phoenix Inertia explaining that he initially acted in good faith but got confused by too many people telling him different things. He was very courteous and reasonable, and he's promised to follow our guidelines for archiving conversations in the future. I consider this situation to be resolved satisfactorily. 22:42, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

It would be a nice gesture to the general wiki community if he could revise the statements on his userpage. And he did. I'm fine with that. —Dr Ishmael 23:08, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

Semi-protect List of fansites

There appears to be a general consensus that, if List of fansites is kept, it ought to be semi-protected. (See talk:list of fansites) I think there's also support to reduce the size of the list (or at least, no strong objections) and I'd like to implement that idea after it's semi-protected (rather than before). Thanks. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 23:41, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Done. -Auron 00:44, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Thx. – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 02:12, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Create-semiprotect MediaWiki talk:Ipb-edit-dropdown

Spambot target, 4 hits in the past 3 months. —Dr Ishmael 14:57, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Protected. pling 17:34, 1 June 2012 (UTC)

Off topic

User:Erasculio/Reviews and User_talk:Erasculio/Reviews Way Way off topic Hidden material it has nothing to do with GW2 and this is not a private BBS / chat room / notice board or Mailbox Rudhraighe 05:58, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

Personally, it's not something I'm worried about - it's in the userspace and it's not disruptive. I agree that the wiki isn't a chat room or whatever, but this particular page doesn't seem to cause any harm (frequency of edits, for example, is very low). pling 21:34, 18 May 2012 (UTC)

Seriously have you even looked at the large "Personal" site he is running inside, behind and underneath the Official Wiki site talk about hijacking the site for personal use...?? This is not "PUBLIC" access Blog space seriously the thing is like a fungus growing into everywhere and everything. just imagine the bandwidth cost. and most of it is NOT GW2 related but promotes competitors products. Look at his llist of contributions and tell me when the last usefulll contribution he made was not in his own personal BLOG area. Rudhraighe 17:02, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

There are no rules dictating the addressing of experiences with other games and other media products is not allowed; the frequency of the edits is still very low; there is no linking to external sites (save wikipedia); the user is not making a profit; all content is released with the wiki's license; bandwidth cost is near-voided compared to the rest of the wiki with its frequently visited articles; and finally the user's contributions are not grounds for restricting this type of freedom. There is no actual problem here, regardless of how long the page will end up being. In fact, if it keeps Erasculio around and involved with the wiki, all the power to it. As long as it doesn't dominate the recent changes, this type of user space utilization is fine. - Infinite - talk 17:19, 6 July 2012 (UTC)

Agree w/Infinite and Pling: there's no issue here.

By the way, several of Erasc's recent contributions have been about creating alternative tools for editing (mobile phone tools or data dumps to enable different types of testing, among other reasons). So I see him as very engaged with the community/content (even if I might disagree with some of his suggestions). – Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 19:18, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

For the records, while I don't agree with Rudhraighe's main point ("promotes competitors products"?), having to make so many pages and categories within my userspace to test templates was making me feel a bit bad. However, I have managed to make an off-line desktop based copy of the wiki in which to make those tests, so my days of spamming recent changes and making categories within my userspace are hopefully gone (until everything is finished and I publish it here, but that's going to require considerable less edits and pages within my userspace). Erasculio 22:11, 8 July 2012 (UTC)

Wikichat notice

Not that we really needed *another* notification to add to the three, but might it be a good reminder to post the scheduled Wikichat up there as well? Redshift 13:21, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

we could get rid of the "The official French and German Guild Wars 2 wikis are now open. Happy editing!" that's been up there for two weeks i think, and if not then we should push for the bot to add the "other languages" section to each page.- Zesbeer 16:08, 11 June 2012 (UTC)

well this already happened... so i suggest removing the main page redesign seeing as its been a wile since anyone brought up concerns about it (and i don't remember the other two.)- Zesbeer 23:05, 7 July 2012 (UTC)

Restoration request

Please restore my friend's talk page User talk:Amelie. I think it had included a delete template when I was moving the asuran alphabet and the admin who deleted it didn't notice what the page was. — Rari 21:40, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

Restored. In future, use <noinclude>{{delete}}</noinclude> tags when deletion-tagging templates/transcluded pages. pling 21:45, 17 August 2012 (UTC)

cannot edit Event "Kill the giant enraged devourer to quell the uprise"

I try to create and edit the content of Kill the giant enraged devourer to quell the uprise It's a followup event in Devourer's Mouth in the Plains of Ashford regions.

When trying to save my description I get a message about an inappropriate title. thanks for your help. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 82.170.154.106 (talk).

Followup: Please disregard. I found the cause. I used a title that was too long. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Jackybah (talk • contribs) at 23:12, 1 September 2012 (UTC).

Made a tweak to the filter. When using the appropriate infobox, this should no longer be a problem. - Tanetris 18:06, 1 September 2012 (UTC)

Thank you :-)) that also seems to have solved the issue with other Events; i also couldnt save on "Protect the engineers repairing the Victory Cenotaph" and now I can. thanks.

Addition of a new javascript to the common.js loader

Hi, recently as part of Project Cartography we have begun to format and fill out area pages. We have run into problem that we store all objectives and tasks (e.g. renown hearts, skill challenges) in STDT tables on a per explorable zone basis. I've attempted to solve this problem by writing this simple script. It allows us to embed the tables for zones into the area page, but then filter the contents by a column. I have tried to make this script as flexible as possible and it will work for any column heading which has text and any comma separated list of parameters. I have also uploaded the script to [|JS fiddle] (note this is a public facing link which anyone cant edit, if tampered with I will restore if notified) with an example table from the renown hearts to show it works and I have debugged the code and provided a suppressible error message should it be needed. The script is currently on the wiki as [[Subsettable.js]] (this be embed in a template similar to collapsible tables). Would it be possible for this to be added as part of common.js or the resource loader? I will also work on an improved version over the course of this week. Thanks very much in advance. --Dr.Mobius 07:57, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Would this be something DPL or SMW can handle? Not that I know how to do it, but just wondering whether those could be used instead of adding more javascript. -- ab.er.rant

From a quick skim read of the manuals, I guess it could be possible, but I don't know enough about the plugins to confidently say that. I would also imagine having that done in large quantities could potentially add a large chunk of extra server load, as they work by php handles (DPL's case)? Semantic certainly looks intresting, but thats going to take a bit of reading :/.That's the nice advantage of the javascript is obviously its done client side :p. Really I would like to do this as a sql database, but that would be a complete pain to get organised.--Dr.Mobius 08:59, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

Oh another thing I forgot to mention was that most of the current tables have a distinct lack of meta data/identification tags/classes, which made it annoying to deal with. --Dr.Mobius 09:24, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

So... the result of your JS would be displaying the single row from the zone-level table for the area-level page? It would seem to make more sense if you converted that into a text list, there's no need for such a wide table if it only has one row.

We don't have SMW installed here yet, but when we do, it can replace all those tables, just not in the way you're thinking. The data would be stored on the area/heart/skill challenge/PoI pages, and the zone-level tables would query the lower-level data. —Dr Ishmael 12:43, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

An area can anything from 0-4 from each table so its not just one row (you can specify multiple areas, names, etc... should you want). The table width is irrelevant/arbitrary as it there to make data is easier to read. I've seen posts about SMW, but do we actually have an eta on that? This is not intended as a final solution is it just so we can display the data for time being. --Dr.Mobius 20:12, 6 September 2012 (UTC)

My account was hacked {Jake Lonergan} and I just got it back yesterday. How ever my account was terminated for sales for real-world money. This wasn't by be it was the hackers. Is there any way you can help expidite the removal of the ban from my account. I haven't been able to play since August 30, 2012.

Thanx!!

This area is for admin issues relating to the wiki, not the game. You need to go to [2] not here. --Sepp 18:18, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Cannot create new page

Took very long time to create new page for Hare Totem. I do the editing, preview works, but after saving the page is not created. The after ~1 hour it was there. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Ras (talk).

Wiki admins are not system admins. Please report the bug here. Also, if you've received a "Guild Wars 2 Wiki Error" message, refer to the grey-coloured notice at top of this page. -- ab.er.rant 11:50, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Cannot add text to page

Tried to add text to a page that does not yet exist and it said I had an inappropriate title change or something. I was just trying to put in the text "What to do:" for a mildly confusing heart task and it blocked my actions. The page I was editing is Aetherbolt researchers require temporary assistants Code Majick 08:44, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

This is not an administrative issue. I suspect it's probably some invalid character in your URL or it could just be a network/server glitch. I've created the page for you so you should be able to edit in your content. Please use Guild Wars 2 Wiki talk:Community portal or Guild Wars 2 Wiki:Ask a wiki question for content-related issues. -- ab.er.rant 11:50, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

It was neither an invalid character nor a glitch. It was AbuseFilter, and that is an administrative issue. Same thing as 3 sections above. Long story short, when making heart and event pages with really long names, make sure to use the appropriate infobox and AbuseFilter will realize it's okay (or if you're an autoconfirmed account, which requires having a small number of approved edits). - Tanetris 17:07, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

I see... so the filter thinks it's vandalism due to the long name? Hmm.... that's a problem isn't. We could've been preventing a lot of anon/new user contributions from creating heart and event pages, and these two users were only the tip of the iceberg. I wonder if we just go about and stub every single missing heart and event page first, just so the infobox gets put in. -- ab.er.rant 02:11, 11 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm still having this issue. I don't understand what I need to be doing differently. What is an "infobox" and how do I need to fill it out to be able to add text to a page? Thanks. Code Majick 10:25, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Guild Wars 2 Wiki:Event formatting - the infobox begins with {{Event infobox and ends with }}. The details you can put in each field are put in <!-- comments -->. pling 11:58, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

Abuse filter blocking private IP ranges...?

Tried to edit a section of an article (Dungeon), got this message:

The block was made by Abuse filter. The reason given is Automatically blocked by abuse filter. Description of matched rule: Targeted spam filter.

Start of block: 20:08, 13 September 2012

Expiry of block: 20:08, 16 September 2012

Intended blockee: 192.168.104.82

You can contact Abuse filter or another administrator to discuss the block. You cannot use the 'e-mail this user' feature unless a valid e-mail address is specified in your account preferences and you have not been blocked from using it. Your current IP address is 192.168.104.82, and the block ID is #3634. Please include all above details in any queries you make.

Obviously, my IP address is not 192.168.104.82 (it's 85.138.x.x, dynamic). In fact, no one on the internet should technically have that IP address (192.168.x.x is a private range). Looks like the Wiki is somehow blocking connections coming from a local address and my connection is passing through it...?

- 85.138.10.33 20:56, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

The wiki's been having an off-and-on bug where it thinks edits are coming from 192.168.x.x addresses (the tech team's aware of it and working on it). The AbuseFilter wound up blocking one of those IPs because of an edit before yours (a spambot trying to put a goldselling ad on a talk page), and unfortunately you wound up on the same one. I've unblocked the IP. Sorry for the inconvenience. - Tanetris 21:07, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

On again, apparently. I just received the same block noting the same IP, stating my current IP matches (false). I can wait out the block. Kruhljak (talk) 11:34, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

-- I just received a similar notice. I've never posted on the wiki before, and was about to correct a mistake on the Ascalonian Catacombs (Explorable) site, when I was blocked by Abuse Filter. The notice says my IP is 192.168.104.79, block number #4321.

I've disabled the block on that AbuseFilter rule, since it seems apparent that ArenaNet's web team aren't going to fix this issue before upgrading the wiki. —Dr Ishmael 18:15, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

This seems to be a Reverse NAT problem. The server is masquerading your IP address due to routing.

IP blocked for being a ... vandal?

Hi, I was apparently just blocked because I supposedly share an IP with a vandal, all I was doing was uploading screenshots of certain locations for the puzzles. Block id = #3642. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Kaneissik (talk).

I think Dr ishmael sorted this. The wiki's having some trouble with IPs at the moment and you unintentionally got caught in a vandal's block. pling 14:37, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

Blocked by Spam Filter

I tried to create a page for the Recipe: Iron Legion Helm, but I got this error message:

"This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your edit was constructive, please contact an administrator, and inform them of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Targeted spam filter testing"

All I have done before was editing a few other recipe-related pages, but I didn't have a registered account when doing so. In the hope that it would fix the spam filter issue, I then registered, but I still keep getting that error message even when logged in. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Sabsi (talk).

Check if you've got double <br> and remove the extra one.

This filter (which is still "testing" apparently?) should probably be changed to apply to user namespace only since most of its legit hits are there. Also, the filter's name should be clearer so that constructive non-bots can work around it. We're getting way too many constructive users being caught out by AbuseFilter. pling 18:03, 15 September 2012 (UTC)

I was also blocked by the spam filter trying to add the following to Talk:Recipe: Worm Stew:
The Recipe: Wurm Stew from Lodge Keeper Kevach teaches the recipe for Bowl of Cold Wurm Stew and not the Bowl of Tasty Wurm Stew, the source of which remains elusive. Daysy 16:44, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Read Pling's comment above. In short: don't use <br> tags to make paragraphs. I don't understand why so many people use them, all you have to do is leave an empty line between paragraphs. —Dr Ishmael 17:11, 7 October 2012 (UTC)

Legendary Weapons

Hey, in the Legendary Weapon article, most of the weapon pages lack pictures. I found a source, but was unable to post to the discussion page due to this error message:

"This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your edit was constructive, please contact an administrator, and inform them of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Targeted spam filter testing"

It's the first time I participated in this wiki, so my IP shouldn't have been used for spam before. However, since it's a wiki, I don't really see the point of having to create an account first in order to be able to contribute. Anyways, here's the link, please post it to the Talk:Legendary weapon page so that pictures can be added. http://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/zxn58/so_i_found_out_how_to_chat_link_all_the/

It's not that your IP is blocked, it's that AbuseFilter identified whatever you were doing as matching a known pattern of spam. I've modified the filter in question so that this shouldn't happen anymore.

[edit] However... the logs for this filter (Targeted spam filter testing) don't show that it ever triggered on Legendary Weapon or its talkpage. Where specifically were you trying to post this? Oh, and as general advice, don't use double <br> tags - just hit "Enter" twice for a new paragraph. —Dr Ishmael 12:42, 17 September 2012 (UTC)

I tried adding my comment to the talk page again, so after previewing it I tried to save. The page then asked me to type in two captcha words to make sure I wasn't spamming. After correctly typing them in and trying to save again, I was directed to a page that was completely blank excpet for the message "Could not open socket". What's up with that?

Page move request

If possible, Royal Ascalonian weapon should be moved to Ghastly Weapon to retain the history and talk page and all of that. It was previously moved from Ghastly->Royal Ascalonian as the devs flipflopped about what they wanted them to be called so it cant be moved normally. On release, they're Ghastly Weapons. Otherwise, I could just copy and paste stuff and lose the history.

Done. —Dr Ishmael 04:28, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

And, I just realized, the same situation for Golden Wing weapon -> Golden weapon The rest of the dungeons are fine.

Mixed Berry Pie Filling page

Bowl_of_Mixed_Berry_Pie_Filling

There is two sections of recipes, one titled recipe and the other titled recipes. I was trying to delete the section recipes, since it has less info. and is duplicate, and unneeded, of the previous section on the same page.

It is telling me to have an admin alter it. Thank you for your help.

The two sections are not redundant- the first tells you the ingredients required to make a Bowl of Mixed Berry Pie Filling, while the second section will list other recipes that require a Bowl of Mixed Berry Pie Filling. There just aren't any yet. 15:53, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

My screen must of been bugging out then, because it did show 3 sections, one for recipe, one for recipes, and one for Recipes requiring Bowl of Mixed Berry Pie Filling. Now that i look at the page someone has deleted the section, I was asking to be deleted thank you.

Added new Mixed Berry Pie page and image. Thank you for your help.

Omnomberry Pie Filling

Please delete the page Omnomberry Pie Filling, the correct title should be Bowl of Omnomberry Pie Filling, which is created, and correct.

To mark a page for deletion, add {{delete|reason for deletion}} to the page. —Dr Ishmael 17:51, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Added per your instructions, thank you for your help. Page is now marked for speedy deletion.

Password help?

Account 'Oblio' works fine on http://wiki.guildwars.com but not http://wiki.guildwars2.com. Any help would be appreciated. Do they sync passwords at different times maybe? I had to do a pw refresh on that site. - 192.168.104.83 23:40, 20 September 2012 (UTC)

Accounts are not shared between the wikis. You'll need to register a separate account on this wiki. If it's not already in use, you can use the same name. —Dr Ishmael 00:28, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Yes, accounts are shared between the English GWW and GW2W. It’s really weird that you cannot log into the account on this wiki, when it works on GWW. I’m not entirely sure if there is a delay when passwords sync, at least it seems to be the case for general user preferences. So I’d advise you to wait a bit and try it again later. poke | talk 00:39, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Geh, I could swear I had to create my account separately over here. Never mind me. —Dr Ishmael 02:23, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

If it still doesn't work after waiting, perhaps reporting a bug would get someone to look into it. -- ab.er.rant 05:56, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks for the help. I'll bug report if a full 24h passes and it still doesn't - 204.11.33.207 14:59, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

User Page Issue: The Nerdly Knight

I am having an issue saving my user page, the following error is being displayed: This action has been automatically identified as harmful, and therefore disallowed. If you believe your edit was constructive, please contact an administrator, and inform them of what you were trying to do. A brief description of the abuse rule which your action matched is: Targeted spam filter testing --TheNerdlyKnight 12:11, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

what are you trying to add to your page?- Zesbeer 12:15, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Just make a few more edits (I think 4 should do it, you can make them by responding here or just making minor edits to your userpage) and you'll be safe from AbuseFilter. —Dr Ishmael 14:21, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

While not an ideal solution, I applied the edit myself. AbuseFilter doesn't like multiple <br>'s being added, as they fit a pattern of certain spambots, but as Ish said, most AbuseFilters will leave you alone once you're autoconfirmed. - Tanetris 16:22, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Thanks guys, I appreciate it --TheNerdlyKnight 00:06, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

1RV on [3] and [4]

Instead of discussing the revert as per 1RV, user Joppe has reverted a revert that I made over his notion that it must be explicitly stated a 0 recharge time skill's attack speed is not affected by recharge time modifiers. Pika Fan 17:24, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Perhaps it should be noted that you did not reason your wipe. Calling my findings redundant and useless is nothing but insult. I would also like ask administration what is the stance of content wiping here? I spent good part of the hour testing this thing that is contested and documented my finding on wiki page. Is it enough for one person to come by and decide that this piece of information is not useful for them and take is off? --Joppe 20:32, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

First you said I didn't reason the wipe, then you go on to say that my calling your addendum redundant and useless is nothing but insult. You don't see the contradiction there? So basically, you claim that I didn't give a reason for the removal by giving a reason for the removal. And yes, it only takes one person to remove redundant and irrelevant information, just like it takes only one misguided person to put it there in the first place. Learn how the wiki works, then come back. Pika Fan 20:41, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

It should be obvious to anyone with a brain that if a skill has no recharge time, it is not affected by things that reduce recharge times. I agree that these notes are completely unnecessary and could actually cause more confusion ("Why is there a note that Quick Draw doesn't affect this? Is it supposed to? Is there a bug somewhere?" etc.). —Dr Ishmael 21:06, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

I understand recharge time as amount of time taken to use skill again (i.e. it is recharging). Long Range Shot and Crossfire do not have recharge time listed, but Long Range Shot takes more time to activate after firing than Crossfire. This is just one of the hundreds of cases where the game is being vague to avoid going into technicalities. If Quick Draw not affecting these skills' recharge was a bug, then it would be marked as such. My note was meant to clarify that indeed Quick Draw doesn't reduce recharge of Long Range Shot and Crossfire. Wiki for the first Guild Wars is full of these "obvious to anyone with a brain" notes [5] [6] [7] [8]. I don't think they are obvious and I do possess a brain.--Joppe 22:36, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

That is activation time, something that, as you noted, Anet decided not to list in GW2 for whatever reason. That doesn't change the fact that these skills have no recharge time.

As for referring to GW1W, this is a different wiki with different (and we hope better) standards. Saying we should do something "because GW1W did it" is a poor argument. —Dr Ishmael 01:11, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

(ec) Pika, calm it down and keep it civil. Also note that 1RV is not a policy on this wiki. Revert wars are bad, but both sides share the responsibility to start a (calm and reasoned) discussion when a disagreement occurs.

Joppe, things get reverted (partially or in whole) or edited to near-unrecognizability all the time. There's a specific warning about this on every edit page. It's nothing to take personally, nor is it an insult to anyone to refer to words on a page as redundant. The note in question appears to be that traits that reduce recharge don't affect skills with 0 recharge. So.... Why would you expect them to? I certainly don't think Pika was out of line thinking it didn't belong, and while he could have better explained his reasoning on Long Range Shot (though even unexplained, it's not really appropriate to label edits you don't agree with as vandalism), you don't appear to have addressed his edit summary on Crossfire or his post to that talk page cross-posted to LRS's talk page.

Long story short, no admin action at this time other than to suggest both of you be more courteous and understanding, and to discuss as needed. We're all trying to improve the wiki here. - Tanetris 21:10, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

(double edit conflict - I think I said the same thing Tane just did) Oh, and from an administrative standpoint, this the edit conflict itself is a non-issue. We don't have a strict 1RV rule (although we reference it as a guideline, we don't enforce it as policy), so anyone getting into an edit dispute should first attempt to settle it with the other editor(s).

However, the behavior of the parties involved is tending toward personal attacks: Joppe for accusing Pika of vandalism, and Pika for a veiled characterization of Joppe as "misguided" and for bluntly stating that he doesn't know how the wiki works. Both of you need to calm down and avoid any more name-calling. —Dr Ishmael 21:14, 29 September 2012 (UTC)

Warmaster Yulia in Glendarren fields is bugged.

Hello Warmaster Yulia in Glendarren fields is bugged and many people are standing there waiting to complete it, myself included. Please fix this bug so we can finish the map and move on. Thank You,

             Mr. Stevely

This page is for notifying the wiki sysops of administrative issues on the wiki, it is not a page for reporting game bugs. Please head to the official forums to report game bugs. —Dr Ishmael 18:36, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the redirection in a timely manner......Mr. Stevely

Lost Account: Jenosavel

I was a somewhat active contributor on the GW1 wiki for many years and around the time that GW2 wiki came online I lost access to my account on both GW1 and GW2 wikis. My password no longer works and my email seems to have been wiped from the system. I would love to continue contributing to GW2, but don't want to lose the account name I've been building for almost a decade. I use the username Jenosavel everywhere, including my gmail address (hint hint to those non-bot types). You can verify it by cross referencing my GW1 wiki user page with the email address's google+ page 24.22.210.168 21:08, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Welcome back, Jenosavel - where ya been? I'm sure our wonderful sysops will be able to sort you out quick time :) — snograt 21:18, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Wonderful though we may be, I'm afraid we administrators don't have the access or the means to reset passwords, and the ArenaNet team team does not fulfill such requests. If you cannot recall the password or the e-mail you used to create your wiki account, there is nothing we can do to recover it. However, you can create a new account with a different name and request a user merge to transfer any existing contributions to the new account. 22:46, 1 October 2012 (UTC)

Username

Any way that I can have an admin or someone with the ability to do so, to change my user name to have a lowercase J? Thanks. ~jonnieboi05 talk 04:37, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

A username that starts with a letter will always have it show up in uppercase. User:jonnieboi05 and User:Jonnieboi05 will link to the same page. It works the same way in any namespace, for example, Currency and currency goes to the same page. If you want to a lowercase 'j', then you have to create a new user account that doesn't start with a letter, and then request for a user account merge. -- ab.er.rant 05:16, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

I see. Thanks for the info. ~jonnieboi05 talk 06:44, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

On your userpage, you can make the page title display in lower-case using the magic word {{DISPLAYTITLE:jonnieboi05}}. —Dr Ishmael 12:50, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Cannot create thumbnail

I'm seeing a problem where whenever I add an image, and the wiki needs to place it as a thumbnail it gives an error on the page. For example at Moa Egg Omelette. I'm not too sure if this is me, or the wiki page playing up. J0el 01:51, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

Probably the wiki page. I purged the page (clicking the clock) and it looks like it's showing now. --JonTheMon 02:15, 6 October 2012 (UTC)

YouTube

I hate the necessity for an external, third-party site of this nature but, I guess, it is a necessity, particularly with jumping puzzles. In fact, I'm almost sure it's only jumping puzzles that justify its use. But I digress...

Am I the only one noticing the YouTube war? Zero edits on jumping puzzle pages which turn out to be altered YouTube codes? In a way it doesn't really matter, but I can foresee problems. Apart from the petty arguments that could occur, who's going to be vigilant enough to check whether particular clips haven't been altered to point to something unsavoury?

Yes, I'm making a mountain out of a molehill, but YouTube worries me.

— snograt 19:37, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Get a life Dewshine Wildclaw 19:51, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) Aside from checking the links actively, another option would be to create an official YouTube channel for GW2W and (re)uploading the videos there. This way we keep the videos (and thus the links) in check. Other than that, changing the links to other videos (which aren't displaying the thing they were stated to be displaying) counts as generic vandalism.

As for users changing the videos to their own videos (or other ones in general) should probably be checked on quality. If the new video is of higher quality (or generally more clear in showing what it should be showing) it shouldn't be reverted (vice versa for new links to lower-quality videos). - Infinite - talk 19:54, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I worry that it's just me being paranoid sometimes - thanks for making me feel better, Infi :) — snograt 19:59, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

[9] ...that's probably not to be encouraged either :D — snograt 20:21, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

(Edit conflict) I don't like having youtube links either, and I'd be happy if we completely got rid of them - anyone who needs a video walkthrough can just search directly on Youtube (I do that rather than trust any links on the wiki).

MediaWiki does have capabilities for uploading and displaying videos, but I don't know if we'd want to go down that road. —Dr Ishmael 20:24, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

A good series of images can be as helpful as a video for jumping puzzles, as well as taking less time to consume, and allowing you to skip around as you please without worrying about buffering. Almost all of the YouTube links are self-promotion by people who do nothing for the wiki other than add links to their videos, and I'd be happier if we just had a "no external video links" policy. Manifold 20:32, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

This video for Griffonrook Run was incredibly useful for me and I appreciate the clean presentation, an image walkthrough simply wouldn't be sufficient. Most puzzles can do without a video, but the ones where players are fighting enemies or dodging traps such as Eternal Battlegrounds, words and pictures only go so far. I agree that the youtube wars is a nuisance and ends up hurting more than helping.--Relyk 20:51, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm with Dr Ishmael on this one: If I need a walkthrough (which I frequently do, to be honest) - I google it. Never needed anything better than the top link. — snograt 20:55, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

This hasn't really reached a point requiring admin intervention (e.g. specific cases of edit wars/malicious links), so this should continue at Guild Wars 2 Wiki talk:Community portal#Random YouTube and other external links instead. pling 21:01, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Incorrect epic armor purchased

Hi admin,

I purchased the incorrect armor from a vendor and would like to get an exchange if possible, i purchased heavy armor when i needed medium.

The armor i got by mistake was flame legion heavy helm, when i needed the medium, i am a ranger so require the appropriate lvl 80 ranger helm.

my character name is Yazamir, server name: Underworld

Would be great if you could exchange this.

Thanks,

P.S i have noticed in forums that a large number of people are having this same issue where they double click by accident and purchase incorrect armor. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 92.239.58.181 (talk • contribs) at 18:48, 12 October 2012 (UTC).

We're not game admins, we're just players who administrate the wiki. The official forum is where you want to go for this kind of thing. pling 19:27, 12 October 2012 (UTC)