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Why is this a sub-category of itself? Kind of... humorous, to be honest. Though I suppose I should ask: Should it be categorized within itself, which produces an endless category tree? -- Konig/talk 05:14, 9 January 2010 (UTC)

I think that was done so it wouldn't be listed in Special:UncategorizedCategories, and also because the equivalent GWW categories are like that. I'm not too fussed about it myself - I can see the silliness of it, but there's some kind of advantage too. Whatever we do with it, we should have the same for Category:Guild Wars 2 (I think someone removed the self-categorisation from that). -- pling User Pling sig.png 15:06, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
I think the Guild Wars 2 category was changed shortly after I made this page. Anyways, it just seemed silly so I was wondering if it should be that way. And I see no reason why we shouldn't have it uncategorized, if anything the two categories talked about thus far should be uncategorized, if any category is. But that's just me. -- Konig/talk 17:51, 9 January 2010 (UTC)
Feel free to change it. -- pling User Pling sig.png 18:51, 9 January 2010 (UTC)


Thank *sob sob* you!|Killer demonUser Killer demon User-Killer demon.jpg 22:40, 26 January 2010 (UTC)

Hey Pling

So I made my GW2 account, are you a sysop here aswell? Reaper of Scythes** User Reaper of ScythesJuggernaut1.png 20:21, 28 January 2010 (UTC)

I am, see my userpage. -- pling User Pling sig.png 01:42, 29 January 2010 (UTC)


Frankly, Your the best Sysop Evar.--Neil2250 , The Zoologist User Neil2250 sig icon5.jpg 15:47, 29 January 2010 (UTC)


Hope you...

Dont mind my R/C spam :s --Neil2250 , The Zoologist User Neil2250 sig icon5.png 17:03, 11 February 2010 (UTC)

Please help....

Just in-case, can I keep the first link? <.< [1]--/ u /nendingfear 21:38, 22 February 2010 (UTC)

I guess so. -- pling User Pling sig.png 21:53, 22 February 2010 (UTC)
k, thanks :D /hug--/ u /nendingfear 21:55, 22 February 2010 (UTC)


moving pages

I noticed that I can move pages on the GW2W, but I can't on the GWW (I wasn't planning on moving any...I was just looking because I thought I remembered not being able to). When the GW2W starts getting a lot of activity, are regular users going to lose the ability to move pages?-- Shew 20:40, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

As far as I can remember, the only limit(s) on moving on GWW is that you have to be registered for a certain number of days and/or with a certain number of edits. I think the only limit here is that you need to be registered, so it's a lot freer. In any case, you should be able to move pages there; are you sure the page wasn't protected or something?
The limit on GWW was made harsher because of vandalism problems, so we probably won't import those limits here unless we get the same problems. -- pling User Pling sig.png 20:48, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
I'm going to a lot of random pages, and I can't move any of them. Maybe I just haven't reached the amount of edits on that wiki, lol.-- Shew 20:52, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
You definitely have - the edit requirement isn't high.
And I forgot something - only a certain number of pages can be moved within a certain amount of time. I've forgotten what the exact limits are, but there's a discussion about it.. somewhere. I'll try and look for it... -- pling User Pling sig.png 20:55, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
found it. -- pling User Pling sig.png 21:00, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
Going back to the moving issue... are you sure you're even logged in? I'm able to move pages. -- pling User Pling sig.png 21:06, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
-_- that solved it. Thanks!-- Shew 21:11, 16 March 2010 (UTC)
^Humor in its best. -- Konig/talk 21:37, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Hello Pling.

Hi Pling. There's a link to wanted pages from the Main page, was wandering why some of the wanted pages are previously deleted pages? Are they "wanted pages" or "unwanted pages"? Pumpkin pie User Pumpkin pie sig.jpg 16:44, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Special:WantedPages automatically lists non-existent pages which have been linked somewhere. For example, if I linked to the non-existent page "Poo", that would automatically be listed on WantedPages (it would appear as a red link, so it's sometimes simply referred to as a "red-link"). WantedPages is not a very good guide to see which articles need creating - links can be red for a number of reasons. Context is required to know whether it should actually be created, so check the article where the red-link is and see how it's used.
If a page has been deleted before and you're not sure whether to create it, check the reason given, and see the talk page for information. -- pling User Pling sig.png 17:02, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you Pling. Much appreciated for the information. Pumpkin pie User Pumpkin pie sig.jpg 17:14, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

DisambigMsg (Like on GuildWiki)

Do we have something like it? I tried it with the Ascalon article (& Ascalon City), but it didn't work. Example on GuildWiki; Thanks in advance for your help =). --Naoroji User Naoroji Sigavatar.jpg 18:27, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

{{otheruses}} -- pling User Pling sig.png 18:44, 19 March 2010 (UTC)
Thank you =). --Naoroji User Naoroji Sigavatar.jpg 18:52, 19 March 2010 (UTC)

Image redirect

Hey Pling, is it possible to redirect an image to an external page?-- Shew 21:17, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Yes :3 Link to the image and I'll get it ^^--/ u /nendingfear 21:35, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Disregard that, taken care of ^^--/ u /nendingfear 21:40, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
Thanks!-- Shew 21:48, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
It isn't possible to redirect to somewhere off-wiki. It'd be potentially dangerous, for a start. -- pling User Pling sig.png 21:48, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
I'd recommend not doing this - link= should generally only be used to link to the wiki. -- pling User Pling sig.png 21:51, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
k; thanks anyways, Unendingfear. Why shouldn't I link to another site, though? Is it because users don't expect to leave the wiki?-- Shew 21:54, 21 March 2010 (UTC)
It isn't as obvious that you're leaving the wiki when you don't have the external arrow thing, and a little more wariness is generally useful before clicking an external link. Also, I don't particularly like the link parameter, but that's just my own opinion. So if the parameter is used, I would prefer it stayed within the wiki at the very least. -- pling User Pling sig.png 22:57, 21 March 2010 (UTC)

Just Thought

You Know all those Projects we did within the GW1W?, lets bring the same projects over here,including some we didnt get round to (Skill History is a good example, because it then being at the start of the game, we could keep track more easily) so how about it? (i mean when the time comes...) --Neil2250 , The Zoologist User Neil2250 sig icon5.png 16:04, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Just copying the projects won't help at all. Projects should (only) be born, when there are people interested in a particular project. It might be a good idea however adding links to non-existant, but relevant projects on the project page to give people a good idea about which projects might be interesting if they don't have something to work on. poke | talk 16:43, 22 March 2010 (UTC)
A project needs context, and we don't really have that context at the moment. When areas of the wiki need organised collaboration to get sorted, and when we actually have the information (i.e. Guild Wars 2), then we can make the relevant project pages. They might be different to the ones on GWW - different targets/methods, plus different users - so it probably won't be worth creating them (or even a placeholder) now. I do agree that there are some projects which could be started from the "beginning", but we're not at that point yet. -- pling User Pling sig.png 17:02, 22 March 2010 (UTC)

Could you

Posibly give me a Link to alot of Mantis/Mantid Images released under the GDFL/ Public Domain? ive been reading loads of Licenses and have found None D: --Neil2250 , The Zoologist User Neil2250 sig icon5.png 14:57, 31 March 2010 (UTC) - you still need to check each filepage's details (just below the image) to make sure that it's licensed appropriately. Also, if you upload anything here, include a link to the original location. -- pling User Pling sig.png 15:31, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
This one looks good: [2] :3--/ u /nendingfear 15:32, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
Its Filename looks like a Murder investigation.--Neil2250 , The Zoologist User Neil2250 sig icon5.png 17:14, 31 March 2010 (UTC)
You still need to include the source on the filepage. -- pling User Pling sig.png 18:02, 31 March 2010 (UTC)



Hey, I had this idea about establishing various projects now, so that we don't have different groups doing the same project. I ran it by Neil and he said I should run it by you. I know its really early, but I was thinking thats its probably better to establish projects now than when beta hits. Just thought I would run it by you and ask for ideas. Aquadrizzt 03:54, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

I agree, there are possible projects to do (even if it is just simple things like formatting and working the lore in articles to be the best possible way), so a project page should be made. -- Konig/talk 08:53, 3 April 2010 (UTC)
Look up. - Tanetris 10:01, 3 April 2010 (UTC)

Archive-box talk

^. --Naoroji User Naoroji Sigavatar.jpg 07:42, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Protected. -- pling User Pling sig.png 12:36, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
Thanks, Pling :). --Naoroji User Naoroji Sigavatar.jpg 12:38, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Siggy halp

Can I use this picture? :3--/ u /nendingfear 15:24, 29 April 2010 (UTC)

Yes - tag the image with {{public domain image|,_Latex,_and_BDSM_pride.svg}}. -- pling User Pling sig.png 15:27, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
K, thanks :D--/ u /nendingfear 15:27, 29 April 2010 (UTC)



As with the Archive-box page, we've now got spambots targeting Template:Notice. Can you protect that one as well? --Naoroji User Naoroji Sigavatar.jpg 09:38, 2 May 2010 (UTC)

Done by Poke. — pling User Pling sig.png 16:12, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Yeh, I saw that. For future reference, is there a page specifically designed for ehm... Well, requesting sysop action? :O --Naoroji User Naoroji Sigavatar.jpg 20:21, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Guild Wars 2 Wiki:Admin noticeboard, in the "support" nav on the left :) pling User Pling sig.png 20:28, 2 May 2010 (UTC)
Ohey, thanks :P. --Naoroji User Naoroji Sigavatar.jpg 19:29, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

Pling :O

"(diff) (hist) . . m File:User Pling sig.png‎; 19:17 . . (+5) . . Pling (Talk I contribs) (Redirected page to User talk:Pling)" of all people :O --Neil2250 , The Zoologist User Neil2250 sig icon5.png 19:27, 3 May 2010 (UTC) pling User Pling sig.png 19:27, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, well,... It's just Neil :). --Naoroji User Naoroji Sigavatar.jpg I need help! 08:49, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Ty :P

Cba to find the actually thing you did to my page, just saying. I'm useless with wiki coding, I just copy somebody elses stuff and edit it a little :P. --User:Nautaut (t) 19:39, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

It was the way the table was formatted - the userbox box was put into a new column instead of a new row. pling User Pling sig.png 19:56, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

this might be a stupid question but...

im relatively new to wiki copyright rules...would I be allowed to use a Guild Wars (1) skill icon such as Assault Enchantments for my signature??? Aquadrizzt 22:44, 3 May 2010 (UTC)

It's ArenaNet/NCsoft property, so yes. Doesn't matter which game it's from. Just tag it with {{arenanet image}} in the description. --Kyoshi (Talk) User Kyoshi sig.png 22:47, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Yep, as Kyoshi says. pling User Pling sig.png 22:56, 3 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks Kyoshi and thanks Pling. Aquadrizzt 13:16, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Master Pling

How good is your Wiki-fu? *Looks at signature* I require some help :/ If you'd be so kind to help me. --Naoroji User Naoroji Sigavatar.jpg I need help! 08:50, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

Color table on the wiki?

Is there one? I'm terrible with the whole number/letter things for color choosing, never understood it. -- Konig/talk 22:25, 4 May 2010 (UTC)

this is a good table. ~ PheNaxKian talk 22:33, 4 May 2010 (UTC)
Thanks. -- Konig/talk 22:39, 4 May 2010 (UTC)


Hey! I really like your userpage. Is it alright if I steal it for a while if I credit you? :D // Zooey 02:54, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Sure, go ahead. pling User Pling sig.png 13:07, 13 May 2010 (UTC)

Assuming you don't patrol RC as much as I do

... Or at least, I hope so. Either way, 'File:User Amannelle Firefighter' or similar, is a picture of Amannelle in real-life. Just wanted to let you know. I already removed the the deletion tag. --Naoroji My Contributions 17:35, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

.. thanks >< pling User Pling sig.png 17:40, 14 May 2010 (UTC)

Are you ok? :(

Hey Pling, I'm sorry if we've been a bit of a bother lately. I didn't realize we were actually being so stressful (through the arguments and such) to you. Is there anything I can do to help? :( --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 00:40, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

I'm fine. :) pling User Pling sig.png 15:53, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
"Do you need anything?" – "I said I'm fine! Just finish the recipe" – "Want me to get anything from the hold? I've brought some pot stickers!" – "No! Finish the recipe!" – uhm.. nevermind, it just caught me again... poke | talk 16:43, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
You're nuts. pling User Pling sig.png 17:42, 17 May 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, that's possible. poke | talk 18:02, 17 May 2010 (UTC)

Delete Account

Hey is there a way to delete accounts. I dont want to be apart of this community any longer--Knighthonor 17:53, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

I think only Pling can delete accounts. --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 17:54, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Well if that the case, so be it. Pling delete my account if you may--Knighthonor 17:57, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
It isn't possible for accounts to be deleted. If someone wishes to leave, the only option is to stop contributing with the account. pling User Pling sig.png 17:58, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
Oh, I didn't know that, Pling. ^^ Thanks for the info. But, KnightHonor, I suppose a more important topic is why do you want to leave? I mean, it's totally up to you of course, but I don't want you to feel like people here want you gone, because that simply isn't true. Sure, you occasionally make mistakes, but everyone does that. :D Lol I do believe Neil is the one in charge of failing, so you may have a hard time surpassing him. ;) Like I've said before; you just need to find your niche. :D You are a creative person, and should find the place where that creativity is best used. Konig has said numerous times that many of your ideas would make perfect creatures and enemies. :D So please don't give up. --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 18:01, 18 May 2010 (UTC)
I saw that. also, its called 'MASTER' of failing.--Neil2250 User Neil2250 sig icon5 Anti.png 16:45, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
IMA fail daily lol:P--♥Icyyy♥ 14:05, 30 May 2010 (UTC)

Table of Contents

Hey Pling, do you know why the ToC on my talk page is not centered within the expandable table, yet the ones on my archive pages are (e.g. here)? Also, is it possible to create a custom ToC? Thanks, Shew 04:25, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

you can make a custom TOC in the sense you can customise it's location and font, I'm not to sure about appearance though (never tried). you do it by:
<div <!-- code that alters it such as "style" attributes --> > __TOC__ </div>
you can either put that directly on your page, or you could make a sub page and use it as a template. ~ PheNaxKian talk 12:12, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
It looks like it is centred, but there's a longer section name in the talk page toc that makes it wider. pling User Pling sig.png 15:28, 20 May 2010 (UTC)
That's looks centered for me now too. Last night it was left-justified. Thanks, guys.-- Shew 16:30, 20 May 2010 (UTC)

Not to question your authority or anything

but was that really necessary? It truly wasn't that problematic. --User Phnzdvn sig.pnghnzdvn 18:04, 24 May 2010 (UTC)

A look at recentchanges should show it's problematic, as well as individual contribution lists. I've commented on Guild Wars 2 Wiki talk:Community portal#Spam.
By the way, you're always welcome to question my actions as sysop, especially on GW2W where the userbase is small (and the amount of sysops/bureaucrats is less), and the role of sysop isn't as yet politically defined. pling User Pling sig.png 18:12, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
I have also commented on the subject there, thank you for your response on the matter. --User Phnzdvn sig.pnghnzdvn 18:24, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
As have I; where I did make an effort to be neutral.
Pling, may I enquire as to (if you know - if it's even decided yet) if this wiki is a democracy or meritocracy? It's a random question of no great importance. I'd like to know, but if the information isn't readily available please don't go rooting for it.
Cheers! User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.jpg A F K When Needed 18:55, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
"Neutral"? You called everyone there horribly biased. xD That is far from neutral. --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 19:07, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Difficult question. I vaguely recall a discussion about how the wiki could/should be classified in the months following the wiki's creation all those years ago, but I don't think it came to anything. We could be a technocracy/meritocracy, since sysops are generally the ones to deal with administrative issues because they actually have the tools and the ability to use them. Then again, we could be a democracy since every decision can ultimately come down to community consensus; also, bureaucrats were elected based on votes, and sysops were appointed based on a mixture of votes, consensus, and bureaucratic decision. Other systems raised in that discussion were the ideas of a dictatorship or oligarchy (my preferred option). It's not a clear situation, even on GWW. pling User Pling sig.png 20:05, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Wow. :O That is quite a thorough process! So when GW2Wiki was first created, were the sysops and bureaucrats decided by GW1Wiki? :D Yay history lessons ^^ --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 20:22, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
If I recall (looking through old discussions and logs), GW2W administrators were grandfathered over by ArenaNet. --User Phnzdvn sig.pnghnzdvn 20:25, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
@Amannelle: No I did not. I said consensus (not those making it) was biased because every one of you were already invested in the issue. Thus the consensus does not accurately reflect the thoughts of the community at large; merely the consensus of those involved.
@Pling: I can tell you spent some time on that message, for which I thank you. User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.jpg A F K When Needed 22:04, 24 May 2010 (UTC)
Pling! Pling! Pling! I know I'm kinda late, but in the event this may repeat, do you have the JavaScript wiki preference enabled? >.> --Unending fear 05:15, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Yes. (What's that got to do with this section?) pling User Pling sig.png 14:57, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Ah, just checking. The reason I asked is because when you have that enabled, multiple edits to one page require manual button pushing, so it shouldn't completely blank rc from everything else in that case.--Unending fear 15:58, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
Oh, you mean the JavaScript enhanced recent changes preference - no, I don't have that enabled. It's rather terrible. pling User Pling sig.png 17:11, 31 May 2010 (UTC)
How exactly is it terrible? >.> --Unending fear 13:00, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
I wouldn't call it terrible... I use it to keep RC looking clean :P. --User Phnzdvn sig.pnghnzdvn 13:47, 1 June 2010 (UTC)
If the bureaucrats are primarily elected by the people, that could kinda make GW2W a republic, too. :P -~=Ϛρѧякγ User Sparky, the Tainted guided sig.png (τѧιк) 17:24, 31 May 2010 (UTC)


Copy vio check....

File:User Eive Windgrace Hounds of balth.jpeg Can you check this for a possibly copy vio? I don't like tagging on only a possibility. :/ --Unending fear 17:46, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Ask the uploader for the source first, then check its copyright status. pling User Pling sig.png 18:50, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Yo pling

What exactly do you do?--♥Icyyy♥‎ 21:04, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Um... he kinda wrote down what he does... right on his userpage.... ^^ -- 21:16, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Ill save you reading, in short, He is a guy who enjoys other peoples pain.--NeilUser Neil2250 sig icon5 Anti.png 21:26, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Edit: While, helping them aswell.--NeilUser Neil2250 sig icon5 Anti.png 21:30, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
He aims to please. poke | talk 21:39, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
Oh poke, that sentence is SO open to interpretation D: --Naoroji User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 21:40, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
He would know. pling User Pling sig.png 21:41, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

Problem with userpage

Hey Pling. Some people have been complaining about my userpage and the way it is ruining the interface. And I can't seem to find the problem. Would you have a look at it, was sort of directed to you. Thanks in advance. -- Ninetythree | T | C | 14:18, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

its a matter of coding.. ill go hunting... --NeilUser Neil2250 sig icon5 Anti.png 14:43, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Remember to close HTML/wiki-table tags. I fixed your legends page and I think Neil did your main userpage. pling User Pling sig.png 15:19, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks to both of you :) -- Ninetythree | T | C | 15:23, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Pling, quick question...

Are there Bureaucrats/stuff like that over here? :0 --Unending fear 19:55, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, I'm one, as my userpage explains. Special:Listadmins is all you need to check for the others. We could probably make a better admin list (similar to gw1:GWW:ADMINS) if it helps. pling User Pling sig.png 19:57, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
On a slight tangent, when do the Sysop/Bura...things elections happen on HERE? Surely they'll differ from GWW sooner or later... --User:Nautaut (t) 19:59, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) Also, one more thing, how do you become one over here? :0 --Unending fear 19:59, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
There aren't any elections (or election/rfa systems) here, the current sysops and bureaucrats are based on GWW/GWiki's. pling User Pling sig.png 20:01, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Aww, so there's no way of becoming one just here? :( --Unending fear 20:38, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
I don't like that, I think there should be seperate elections... Due to their being different communities etc... --User:Nautaut (t) 20:41, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Hmmm, we should try and pass something here that makes it so you have to be elected separately. As Naut said, the communities are very different at this time. --Unending fear 20:42, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
I guess there will be an election system if we get busy around here (when the game goes live..) -- Cyan User Cyan Light sig.jpg 20:43, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
It would be best to cut through the red-tape before it gets busy. --Unending fear 20:45, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
In my opinion there is at this moment no need for a new sysop/bureaucrat team.. -- Cyan User Cyan Light sig.jpg 20:48, 9 June 2010 (UTC)
Maybe not, but it would be best to set it up so that it's possible n' all. If people don't like the way it is when it gets more popular, just redesign it then. :P --Unending fear 20:49, 9 June 2010 (UTC)

Sorry bout the flood on recent changes

Naoroji, Shewmake and I kinda got into an edit war. Its resolved (mostly now)... Sorry about it being a hassle Aquadrizzt My Contributions 22:37, 10 June 2010 (UTC)

That wasn't a war. :P (At least it didn't seem like it to me.) That was more like all of us just making minor edits based on our own intentions for the articles.-- Shew 22:43, 10 June 2010 (UTC)
I don't have a problem with edits to articles :) pling User Pling sig.png 14:01, 11 June 2010 (UTC)


Category:Guild_Wars_1_images#F Somehow, a lot of files starting with the letter U are put under the F, any idea how that's possible? D: --Naoroji User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 16:41, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

The images wrongly under F use the code [[Category:Guild Wars 1 images]], while the ones correctly categorised use {{ArenaNet image|gw1}} (or {{GW1 image}}) which includes a sortkey by pagename: [[Category:Guild Wars 1 images|{{PAGENAME}}]]. That means the former are sorted under "File" and the latter are sorted by their proper page name. pling User Pling sig.png 16:49, 11 June 2010 (UTC)

Infinite ban

Does infinite mean truly infinite (this IP will never be able to edit the Wiki again) or 'infinite until chosen otherwise'? xD I'm not questioning the ban, just,... Semantics, I guess. I'm curious by nature. --Naoroji User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 20:38, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

All blocks can be overturned or shortened, so it's never truly "infinite" - "indefinite" would probably be more accurate. pling User Pling sig.png 20:40, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Why not use infinite ban for vandalism? I mean, I highly doubt someone who posts pornography in place of a popular article is someone who will also want to join us later. o.o --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 20:46, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
K, thanks for the info, Pling. --Naoroji User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 21:08, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
I agree, most likely not infinite. Venom20 21:09, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Registered accounts that do stuff like that usually are infinitely blocked if it's clear they're bots or something; IPs aren't, because they can be dynamic and used by different people. pling User Pling sig.png 21:16, 13 June 2010 (UTC)
Oooh I see what you mean. :) -- 23:47, 13 June 2010 (UTC)

Account spamz

You meanz stuff I do on GWW scores permas here? :O Din't know account were linked. -- 15:14, 15 June 2010 (UTC)

Actually,... Someone kept creating new accounts under the name of 'RCSPAM', thus clogging up Recent Changes. I think that's what Pling was referring to. Apparently your IP fits to that user. --Naoroji User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 15:16, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Oh I c now. Lolwutz I only spamzor'd GWW. =/ My IP probably matched because I logged in with Tor browser a few times (I'm actually using it right now). ;o -- 15:21, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Aww, please Unban Igor 3: --Unending fear 15:55, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Wet blankets dont give second chances. You know this, UF.--NeilUser Neil2250 sig icon5 Anti.png 15:56, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Neil, shut up. We all know by now you don't like Pling. So stop your comments like this, its really disruptive and on the edge of personal attacks. -- Cyan User Cyan Light sig.jpg 16:02, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
You do infact realise that pling, and any other sysop (or higher) would never unblock igor, as much as i like him. Igor had (and still has) such a bad record, no-one, including pling is willing to give him a second chance.--NeilUser Neil2250 sig icon5 Anti.png 16:08, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Awww, I'm a wet blanket, Neil? D: --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 16:10, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Didn't know you were Pling's sock account, Amannelle? :P --Naoroji User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 16:10, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
/Heartbreak, but srsly.back on topic.--NeilUser Neil2250 sig icon5 Anti.png 16:23, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
I wrote him an e-mail maybe he listens! Hoping for the best anyway. :3 It probably was some wannabe account spammer who wanted to imitate me and Eavil @ GWW. -- 16:31, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm continuing this discussion (or hopefully ending it, but we'll see) with Igor through email, so this discussion on wiki doesn't really need to continue - the less we invite him back, the better. pling User Pling sig.png 18:24, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
But I want him back pling :( --Unending fear 18:32, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
A compelling argument - brb to reconsider. pling User Pling sig.png 18:40, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
Huh? ._O --Unending fear 18:44, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
  • Cough* " this discussion on wiki doesn't really need to continue..."--NeilUser Neil2250 sig icon5 Anti.png 18:46, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
I like Pling's sense of humor. Case closed. -- Cyan User Cyan Light sig.jpg 21:13, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
I don't. :P And I've personally learned that people are the most illogical when wants and desires are put into the equation, so that isn't exactly your best argument, Unendingfear. xD Like Pling said, the less we invite him back, the better. :) --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 23:01, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
No it's not :P I want him back so why wouldn't I invite him back? :)--Unending fear 23:42, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
If you were honestly my friend, you wouldn't. Jacob, I KNOW you are more sensible than to indulge in such stupidity as to think that troll is somehow beneficial to this wiki. Do you honestly dislike this wiki and me so much as to want to bring him back? So often admins will let problems slide over and over, making things just more stressful for the other members. Tanetris actually did something about it, which I am grateful for. Although I too like to indulge in providing a second chance for people, there are some people who, regardless of how many chances you give them, wont change. :( --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 01:22, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
I'm irritated by the guy and I don't even really know him. I find netspeek annoying and the casual disregard for rules or common courtesy trollish. Why the hell would you want such a disruptive person in the community...--Corsair@Yarrr 01:42, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
I think it's because he was a partner in crime... >_> --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 01:46, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Well, ok, so I know the real reason, but I can't say it on here.... Corsair; MSN!!! D: --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 01:55, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Its been so long since I've used my MSN, I don't even know where it is anymore, can't you just send me an email? Link on my userpage.--Corsair@Yarrr 02:15, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Matt, I don't hate you or this wiki. :( I rather like you and the wiki. It's just Igor is a harmless cute little troll, that's quite far from the kind I usually am around, so it's both comforting and amusing to have somebody like him around. --Unending fear 02:34, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
I know you are good friends with him, and I know he isn't a bad person, exactly... but rather has tendencies to cause problems. I personally enjoy monitoring Recent changes, and having him here would make the job so much harder. I mean, WE have all spammed before, but not intentionally, as Igor has. :( There are other... factors... in why I'd rather he not be let back, but the summary is I feel the wiki is better off without him. Lol I guess that's something we both have in common- neither I nor Igor are very beneficial to the wiki. However, I am not harmful to it either (or at least I hope I'm not!), which is something that can't be said about Igor, regardless of how cute he can be at times. ^^ --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 02:46, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Actually though, we're not great friends. >.> I know you far better than him. --Unending fear 02:55, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

CleanUp question...

on, Wanted Pages, among the "most linked to" include KH's RPG and CC pages, am I allowed to go and remove the links so that we actually see what pages are actually needed? Aquadrizzt The Weapon Master 17:14, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Zzzz. that page name should be changed to "Most linked Red-links" people just mistake it for pages that want to be made...--NeilUser Neil2250 sig icon5 Anti.png 18:12, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Neil, im only trying to help the wiki, KHs (deleted) copy vios and theyre related links are making it hard to tell which pages are actually needed, and imagine how bad it is going to be when the game actually is released... Aquadrizzt The Weapon Master 18:33, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
I Know, i wasent trying to offend you (nor do i want to) i totaly agree with you, we should remove them, but its not down to me, so ask pling.--NeilUser Neil2250 sig icon5 Anti.png 18:35, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Depends where the links are, and what the thing being linked to is - context is important. I can't give a blanket statement of "yes, remove links" or "no, don't". WantedPages is not an accurate measure of which pages are wanted, as Neil says.
The links to "Crowd Control" and "role playing game" are on talk pages and could be useful for people reading those discussions later on. Personally, I don't think they need removing, but I'm not going to complain if they are. pling User Pling sig.png 19:24, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

A question

Are IP users permitted to have userpages? --User Phnzdvn sig.pnghnzdvn 20:03, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Good question. Was about to ask the same. -- 20:04, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
You can have one, but unless your IP addy is 100% static, I wouldn't recommend it. Besides, it's so easy to make an account. --LaniaUser Lania Elderfire pinkribbon.jpg 20:08, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
Im almost sure that you have to register the IP adres as an actual account, otherwise you aren't allowed to have an userpage on that particulair name. If you make an userpage on any IP adres without you have registered it, it will be deleted because IP adresses are variable, can be used by multiple persons and thereby can also change. It can be I missed some points here, but I think I said the most things here. -- Cyan User Cyan Light sig.jpg 20:10, 16 June 2010 (UTC)
That's essentially right, although it isn't possible for a registered user account to have the exact same name as an IP - it'd have to be slightly different somehow (e.g. replace the periods with spaces). pling User Pling sig.png 21:27, 16 June 2010 (UTC)

Can I

Make a floater just overlay over my userpage? --Super IgorUser- Super Igor logo.png 17:06, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Floater on my page

Shouldn't obscure anything anymore. Go have a look and tell me if it's ok. :3 --Super IgorUser- Super Igor logo.png 17:12, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

It still gets in the way of the categories. pling User Pling sig.png 20:34, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
It doesn't obscure any of them though, or does it? Anyway, if that's the case I want to make it fixed between "Cool Stuff" and GW2 News" tabs. Any way I can do that? --Super IgorUser- Super Igor logo.png 20:37, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Hmm, it only obscures categories if horizontal resolution is lower than 1366 (which is mine), I guess. Pling, have you thought of getting a new screen? :P Also, seeing as how they're simply user categories; does it REALLY matter, Pling? I mean, on articles, sure. Categories should be visible. But user categories? --Naoroji User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 20:39, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Anything that obstructs the interface is unacceptable, and yes that includes obstructing user categories. pling User Pling sig.png 20:54, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Redirect spam on RC

Hope you don't mind (I know; it's constructive), we're just trying to make the GW2Wiki more accessible for the casual user. I've received quite a lot of complaints from friends, fellow GW2Guru'ers and the like, that the wiki search engine doesn't work that well, isn't user-friendly because of the apparent difference between lower-case and upper-case, singular and plural, etc. So I started this as a kind of project on the GW2Guru. Are there,... Project pages available, or should I just make a page for it in my userspace? Or do you think it isn't necessary at all because it really isn't a 'project', but rather something logical? ;) Just asking for input. --Naoroji User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 21:32, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

There. Chriskang 21:53, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
A discussion is going on at gw1:GWWT:RFTA#Search about installing an extension to make the search feature better - I think that would be a more effective solution (would anyone actually search for "Dan Dociu"? I doubt it :P). pling User Pling sig.png 22:15, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Yeah, that was Amannelle (He likes to call him Dan, lol ^^). Just a bit overzealous I guess :P. We're all just trying to help :). --Naoroji User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 22:24, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Well, I had heard others call him Dan before; granted, I don't know if they'd ever SEARCH for him by that name, but I figured it wouldn't hurt. ^_^ --AmannelleUser Amannelle Me.jpg 23:03, 19 June 2010 (UTC)
Talking about yourself in third-person ftw, Iggy approves. :3 --Super IgorUser- Super Igor logo.png 23:15, 19 June 2010 (UTC)

Custom Skin Userpage

Hey. I want to make a userpage that obscures the entire Wiki interface and creates it's own. Don't stop here read on. It will however retain the same layout, every single link as well as search function and GW2W logo. It will also include an easy to follow link to default layout of my userpage. Can I do that? --Super IgorUser- Super Igor logo.png 00:54, 20 June 2010 (UTC)

Please let him. Vald Sunday User Valdimir newsigicon.png 00:57, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
People use different resolutions, different browsers, different monitor sizes, different tools (think admin tabs), modified JS's, and modified CSS's. I don't think what you're describing will satisfy the majority of those common customisations, but you can try something out in a sandbox. I'm pretty sure you could spend the time doing something more useful instead, though. pling User Pling sig.png 01:51, 20 June 2010 (UTC)
I think theres a way to make the toolboxes float above that skin. Anyway, I will fiddle around with it in my Sandbox maybe when I'm finished you can has a look and say if it's ok or not. I by most part enjoy this wiki cause of wikicode anyway while sticking to the theme of my favourite game. Ty for the reaply Plingz. :3 --Super IgorUser- Super Igor logo.png 11:10, 21 June 2010 (UTC)

Once Again...

I must apologize for the complete and total flood of RC...I got excited about making a new main page format and completely flooded RC... :( Aquadrizzt The Weapon Master 02:57, 23 June 2010 (UTC)

Would hardly say it's spam in this instance. Due to it being productive :P. --Naut User Naut Dark Blue Monk.png 19:12, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Its still 150 (more than that now) edits that went into the RC... doesn't matter if its spam, its massive... Aquadrizzt Main Page Designer 19:23, 24 June 2010 (UTC)


You haz msn? :3 --Super IgorUser- Super Igor logo.png 19:11, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Yes, although I rarely use it: click. pling User Pling sig.png 19:13, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Kewl ty. Will add. Adderedededs. ^___^ --Super IgorUser- Super Igor logo.png 19:15, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Can I add you? D: --Unending fear 19:15, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Me or Ploing? --Super IgorUser- Super Igor logo.png 19:32, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
PLINGGGGGGG :3 --Unending fear 19:33, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
*feels abandoned* >: --Super IgorUser- Super Igor logo.png 19:34, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
B-b-but I added you? >: --Unending fear 19:44, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Yesh. But you didn't go liek "OMGZ IGGAY GIEF MSN PLIX PLOX PLAX" n stuffs. Q____Q --Super IgorUser- Super Igor logo.png 19:46, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
Add me if you want, but gl finding me online. Also, shut up. pling User Pling sig.png 20:06, 24 June 2010 (UTC)

Country uploads

Want me to update the admin list as best I can with the new templates once I sort my computer out? Shadow Runner 20:17, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

I'm in the process of updating it now. pling User Pling sig.png 20:22, 26 June 2010 (UTC)
Also, I just realised my epic fail with the whole linking-it-to-the-AN. While in College, by brain does not function. Thanks! Shadow Runner 20:32, 26 June 2010 (UTC)

Flag Help

hey pling...i'm making a list of GW2W helpers (in the style of the Admin List) and I was wondering where I could find a Czech Republic flag with a compatible license...Thanks Aquadrizzt Main Page Designer 18:15, 27 June 2010 (UTC)

Evidently...i also need a China one... Aquadrizzt Main Page Designer 18:36, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
All flags on Wikipedia are Public Domain, you can copy them without problem. China's already here. And here's a link to Czech Republic. Chriskang 19:11, 27 June 2010 (UTC)
Thanks such a noob with copyright... >.< Aquadrizzt Main Page Designer 19:44, 27 June 2010 (UTC)


How is it possible that page gets a lot of visits,...? Some special code, w/e? --Naoroji User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 18:47, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

According to the summary made by Galil, who created it, it's to do with Firefox search - a technical workaround, maybe. Galil's kinda like a Swedish Poke, so I trust him blindly on techy stuff. pling User Pling sig.png 18:53, 29 June 2010 (UTC)
Ah ok, that makes sense. Will leave that page alone, then. --Naoroji User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 18:55, 29 June 2010 (UTC)


Redirects in search

Would it be possible to make it so redirects don't show up in the search, or at least ones that are created as a misspell? Or do they automatically phase out as time goes on and they don't get many visits? I'm asking because it seems a little messy and unprofessional, not having them but have them show up in the search bar.--Corsair@Yarrr 04:58, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

I believe by default they don't? if they are for you though, when you do a search, make sure that "List redirects" is unchecked, then do the search again =). ~ PheNaxKian talk 10:07, 9 July 2010 (UTC)
Redirects are like normal articles, so I don't think it's possible to keep them off the search tools without using the advanced options. There's a discussion at gw1:GWWT:RFTA about improving the search features, which would lessen the need for some of the silly redirects. pling User Pling sig.png 14:37, 9 July 2010 (UTC)

IP account redirects

Hey Pling, had a quick question for you. I noticed that Ariyen redirected this IPs talk page to her own and claimed it on the user page. I thought I recalled that there was a discussion on GWW about that not generally being allowed because no one can "claim" an IP as they can change from time to time. So, should this be allowed? --User Phnzdvn sig.pnghnzdvn 04:35, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

It's a stagnant Ip that's assigned by Att - has not been changed in over 3 years. Don't see a problem, unless changed then I can see a deletion. Ariyen 04:38, 11 July 2010 (UTC)
Instead of redirecting the talk page to User talk:Ariyen and having the notice on the userpage, it would be better put the notice on User talk: - it's harder to get to IP userpages (links generally lead to contribs instead), so people are unlikely to see the notice on the userpage. If that's done, it should be fine; that's what the template was made for on GWW. pling User Pling sig.png 14:50, 11 July 2010 (UTC)

Your monobook.css

What does it change? --Naoroji User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 17:15, 29 July 2010 (UTC)

I've added annotations on the page, do they help? pling User Pling sig.png 17:21, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Oh, that wasn't necessary ;). But thanks. Was just curious if there was something in there I'd want to use :). --Naoroji User Naoroji Golem - Green.jpg 17:28, 29 July 2010 (UTC)
Wow, if you hadn't told us, i wouldn't have noticed, but it does make sense. lol --Xerelin 18:50, 29 July 2010 (UTC)