Talk:Pact Supply Network Agent

Feedback 2015/11/03

• A dated template for the current locations of these agents would be super awesome! --100.0.62.73 14:12, 3 November 2015 (UTC)
• Any suggestions on tracking appearance times/days and the order the locations switch so we can develop a predictive location schedule? Separ (talk) 12:21, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

I'll have a think about it. Reddit has the old data. -Chieftain Alex 16:05, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

I've created Pact Supply Network Agent/research, which can be edited with the "Edit with form" button, to drop data in to (if you find the dropdown is missing an option, edit it without the form and ping my talk page). If we find a pattern we can automate it. -Chieftain Alex 18:24, 4 November 2015 (UTC)

The Table is great. It would be really cool, if we could have the table at the top of the site, instead always scrolling down to the end. --Aleksander (talk)

Click the 'Locations' link.Separ (talk) 19:32, 9 December 2015 (UTC)

Feedback 2015/11/05

We should consider starting to keep track of which items the vendors sell in the 3rd slot and what drops out of the torn pages. What would be the best way to do so? --Foon (talk) 12:33, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

For the "random 3rd slot", no comment until I actually visit one of these vendors myself.

For the drops from torn pages, just edit Torn Page from "Tyrian Pact Survival Handbook"#Contents. -Chieftain Alex 12:41, 5 November 2015 (UTC)

Can we do something similar as the research page for the locations? -- Foon (talk)

Feedback 2015/11/06

I believe unlike what is currently stated that the 3rd item always costs the same amount of karma. --Foon (talk) 12:55, 6 November 2015 (UTC)

It's rare, but I've seen the 3rd item listed for 12.5k. Ttyl (talk) 00:52, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Feedback 2015/11/08

We have a weekly pattern in the locations which can be integrated: https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/3rltbz/0511_pact_supply_agent_locations_we_have_a_pattern/ --RedGlow (talk) 11:46, 8 November 2015 (UTC)

Feedback 2015/11/14

Confirming Recipe: Celestial Exalted Pants 25,200 karma, currently on The Fox at Gallant's Folly.

Feedback 2015/11/14

Just received from Torn Pages: Recipe: Zealot's Pearl Rod and Recipe: Celestial Pearl Siren. --96.231.234.30 01:46, 15 November 2015 (UTC)

Requested Column

Would someone perhaps mind adding the tp sell price to these tables? I tried, but must've done something wrong. Anyone? ♥ Flakkenmarsh (talk) 06:24, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Done. -Chieftain Alex 10:59, 18 November 2015 (UTC)

Feedback 2015/11/20

The table said Despina Katyn was in Rocklair but she was in Wayfarer Foothills. ETA - all the agents except The Fox were in their locations for 2015/11/21. --Segren (talk) 08:31, 20 November 2015 (UTC)

I (Ciome) just edited the timer. I never touched the code in my life, nor I read how to do edits in the wiki, but I hope this is good for you guys, even if you can't see anymore day+6. --

Feedback 2015/11/20

Recipe: Celestial Emblazoned Shoulders needs to be added to the list, for 25,200 karma.

Recipe: Celestial Pearl Brazier as well, 25,200 karma.

Recipe: Zealot's Pearl Impaler, 25,200 karma. --Trevard (talk) 02:58, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

Hey Trevard, thanks for the updates, and I've added the first two Celestial recipes. I know that the templates look scary (they've grown dramatically since I last looked at them), but adding to them yourself is quite easy with copy/paste. Feel free to give it a try, and even if you make a mistake, no real harm can ever be done! G R E E N E R 03:15, 21 November 2015 (UTC)

I'm probably to blame for scaring users from editing the data for a bit - when I added the TP column i did it in a stupid way. Looks like Trevard's got the hang of it now though. -Chieftain Alex 09:47, 26 November 2015 (UTC)

Yea, I think I got it down pat for this page and the Tyria Pact Survival Page. Trevard (talk) 03:57, 3 December 2015 (UTC)

Recipes from the third slot vs recipes from Torn Page from "Tyrian Pact Survival Handbook"

I think we need to figure out how to document the recipes obtained from the third slot vs the random recipe from Torn Page from "Tyrian Pact Survival Handbook". At the moment we're lumping the two together I think and it makes this a bit more difficult to try and figure out any pattern in the historical data for the third slot.

Imo anything received from Torn Page from "Tyrian Pact Survival Handbook" should be documented on that page - not here (HoT was released 38 days ago, and yet there are >75 items here - and the third slot item only changes every 24 hours (one item per day, i.e. 38) so we've got some misplaced entries). -Chieftain Alex 19:20, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Nevermind, hadn't realised each merchant stocks a different item! /I'm retarded -Chieftain Alex 19:31, 29 November 2015 (UTC)

Feedback 2015/12/06

The following recipe pages were not updated to reflect the Pact Supply Network Agent as a source for the item:

Recipe: Zealot's Draconic Gauntlets

Recipe: Zealot's Emblazoned Coat

Recipe: Zealot's Emblazoned Shoulders

Recipe: Zealot's Exalted Mantle

Recipe: Zealot's Pearl Broadsword

Recipe: Zealot's Pearl Crusher

Recipe: Zealot's Pearl Sabre

—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 99.4.182.43 (talk • contribs) at 22:45, 6 December 2015‎ (UTC).

Yep. We have a template that handles these cases, {{vendor list}} . You can look at another page such as Recipe: Celestial Exalted Masque to see how they are used (they are copy/pasted under the "Acquisition" title). G R E E N E R 22:55, 6 December 2015 (UTC)

Feedback 2015/12/11

Lady Derwena offering a Recipe: Major Sigil of Renewal, but it is a lvl 175 weaponsmith masterwork item, not account bound. When I tried to add it to the table it showed as a Rare, account bound item. --Separ (talk) 21:58, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Anet had fun with all of those items. You could be looking at:

• DMasterwork Recipe: Major Sigil of Renewal @ rating 175

Though these also exist:

• DMasterwork Recipe: Minor Sigil of Renewal @ rating 175
• ERare Recipe: Major Sigil of Renewal @ rating 325
• ERare Recipe: Minor Sigil of Renewal @ rating 325

The second and third recipes seem to be more standard. Note though that these are all account bound, so if you can toss us the ID number of the item that you have by using "/wiki [SHIFT+CLICK" on it, it would be much appreciated. G R E E N E R 22:20, 11 December 2015 (UTC)

Feedback 2015/12/13

Location for Derwena was near Vigil Keep --24.25.245.170 21:22, 14 December 2015 (UTC)

Feedback 2016/01/17

I added the Recipe sheet for Major Rune of Tormenting which I picked up from Specialist Yana today in Fort Trinity I didn't, however, update the page for the Recipe sheet to indicate that this item can be bought from the Pact Supply Network Agent.

--198.84.237.21 16:29, 17 January 2016 (UTC)

Feedback 2016/01/24

I added the Recipe sheet for Superior Sigil of Bursting which I picked up from Lady Derwena today at Garenhoff. I didn't, however, update the page for the Recipe sheet to indicate that this item can be bought from the Pact Supply Network Agent, although that page says that the recipe can sometimes be acquired from a Torn Sheet. I was able to purchase it directly as an item. --198.84.237.21 16:16, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Pages has been updated, thanks! G R E E N E R 17:16, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Feedback 2016/02/16

If you try to sort after TP-price it puts 99s higher than 9g. --89.10.190.250 14:29, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Should be fixed now. Let me know if it isn't after you've refreshed your version. -Chieftain Alex 15:14, 16 February 2016 (UTC)

Feedback 2016/02/27

Lady Derwena only seems to be partially fixed with the 2016/02/23 patch. I haven't been able to find multiple spawns, but rather she now has a fixed cycle (not verifiable until a week has passed). However, at Vigil Keep Waypoint she had the icon for a primary enemy in a dynamic event instead of the vendor icon. Spannu (talk) 08:16, 27 February 2016 (UTC)

Feedback 2016/03/16

The most helpful feature of this page, and the only reason i reviewed daily it was deleted. I changed the page to an older version. --186.83.0.35 21:33, 16 March 2016 (UTC)

Any reason why the wp's for individual vendors was removed?

The locations were always given by the closest landmark, sometimes with a waypoint for reference. POI chat links also open your map, so you can easily choose the nearest unlocked waypoint. Spannu (talk) 17:24, 28 April 2016 (UTC)

Feedback 2016/05/25

Could someone add a one-click-to-highlight of all 6 of ' today's ' waypoints? At the moment I find it redundant but necessary to click and copy to clipboard 6 waypoints separately. i.e. for today GMT+10 a summary line under the table showing these codes: [&BH8HAAA=][&BBkAAAA=][&BEgAAAA=][&BKgCAAA=][&BGQCAAA=][&BIMBAAA=]

I just had the same idea and was wondering whether this could be done. I regularly post the locations in our guild's MOTD and copy/pasting the waypoints individually is just extremely tedious. :/ Feothyr (talk) 10:30, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

You should be able to drag your cursor across that single row. This will highlight all six WP codes for you to copy/paste as one. G R E E N E R 17:38, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Please fix the order the locations are listed!

As per Title:: PLEASE FIX the ORDER the locations are listed!!@!!!

The CURRENT order, while it IS Alphabetical, is consequently the MOST EXPENSIVE in terms of cost associated to traveling ZIG-ZAG across the map!

The Correct order should be:: Maguuma Wastes, Kryta, Maguuma Jungle, Ruins of Orr, Ascalon.

This 'correction' will split in half, nearly, the overall travel costs between waypoints.

Why in the world should the 'basic list' also be the 'most expensive' way to perform this already maze-like daily chore?

It just boggles the mind. Please fix.

NOTE: The Kryta/Maguuma Jungle locations often switch-back over one another. However, generally, this order corrected for the map location of each area is just simply smarter.

Thank you. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 108.232.12.215 (talk • contribs) at 05:42, 1 April 2016 (UTC).

Correction to a correction: The Correct order should be:: Maguuma Wastes, Kryta, Maguuma Jungle, Ruins of Orr, Northern Shiverpeaks, Ascalon. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 108.232.12.215 (talk • contribs) at 05:45, 1 April 2016‎ (UTC).

Okay, done. (created Template:Pact Supply Network Agent table) -Chieftain Alex 17:25, 1 April 2016 (UTC)

Thank you, Alex! That edit was a BIG help! =) (Am not sure how to comment on comments in "Discussion", so I hope this first attempt at feedback is successfful!) —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 108.232.12.215 (talk • contribs) at 23:34, 21 April 2016‎ (UTC).

No problem, happy gathering lol. Your reply on this discussion page is perfect. -Chieftain Alex 23:38, 21 April 2016 (UTC)

Clickable background to expand and show POI's/Waypoints for future days?

Just wondering if anyone would be able to do this? I post the waypoints in my guild's MOTD each day so guild members are able to quickly skip around and grab their mapping materials after reset, but I'm not always able to get on and update them at a reasonable time. It would be fantastic if I could update for 2 or 3 days at a time in case I don't have the opportunity to get on.

I realize I could just save the links from a previous week to a notepad file or sommat, but it seems to me that the table is already fairly automated and this link info is already embedded, so maybe it wouldn't be too difficult to make this change?

What I'm talking about is more easily understood if you go to https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Map_bonus_reward/profit Note here that you can click on the background of either a specific map to see what rewards are offered, or you can click on the header text (eg: "Week 2") and it will automatically expand all maps to show what rewards are offered everywhere during that week.

Would be fantastic if this type of thing were enabled on the Agent location table too. Click the background behind a future date and it'll expand to show the agent locations for that date.

I'd do it myself but admittedly I know nothing about coding. I'm not even sure if this is the correct way to post a new comment thread on the discussion page. If it's not, I'm sorry! D:

Hmm you wouldn't believe how much work I put into the /profit page to get it working ;). I will think about it later after work.

It's probably easier (read: I can do it right now in less than 2 minutes) to create a personal modified version of Template:Pact Supply Network Agent table.

Date	Maguuma Wastes	Kryta	Maguuma Jungle	Ruins of Orr	Shiverpeaks	Ascalon
NPCs:	Mehem the Traveled	Lady Derwena	The Fox	Specialist Yana	Despina Katyn	Verma Giftrender
2024 Nov 08
2024 Nov 07
2024 Nov 08
2024 Nov 09
2024 Nov 10
2024 Nov 11
2024 Nov 12
2024 Nov 13

I mean honestly, who needs the locations if you're pasting chatlinks anyway.. -Chieftain Alex 06:26, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

This is perfect! Thank you so much! And thanks for all the work on the profits page, it's something I use *often*.

Awesome. Thanks again!

Broken, WP locations not displaying?

Today's WP links seem to be broken for some reason. Purged the cache, still not showing 3. Seylan (talk) 16:57, 7 August 2016 (UTC)

See my answer below. -Chieftain Alex 13:01, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Feedback 2016/08/07

Some waypoints are currently missing from the agent locations table.[1]--24.10.229.26 03:42, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Thanks for the bug report. There's a database that drives the inter-related content on the wiki pages called Semantic Mediawiki, and unfortunately it looks like the database forgot the data for several location pages. I've purged the area pages, e.g. Mabon Market, (which contain the waypoint information) and the chatlinks have come back. You may need to refresh your browser cache to pick up these latest changes. -Chieftain Alex 13:01, 8 August 2016 (UTC)

Feedback 2016/08/15

The codes for the locations still missing. I tried deleting browser cache and using two different browsers. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 69.119.173.138 (talk • contribs) at 16:59, 15 August 2016‎ (UTC).

It looks like the properties which the wiki uses are currently being rebuilt. I hope this portion gets cleared up for everyone sooner rather than later. G R E E N E R 17:29, 15 August 2016 (UTC)

I did make clickable waypoints names. Now the chat links can get easley. Maqentaer (talk) 01:19, 16 August 2016 (UTC)

Feedback 2017/01/18 - Items offered by Pact Supply Network Agent

Would it be possible to elaborate a collaborative way of updating the items offered by each network agent everyday?

I think that allowing users to update vendors' offer each day would benefit entire community and would add more value to the wikipage as apart from showing where the vendor is located, the visitors would also be able to see what that vendor sales. If on a particular date it wouldn't be updated yet such person could visit the vendor himself and update the offer on its own. --78.109.24.109 12:05, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Don't recall who, but someone did document every day's items from HoT for about a year with no repeating cycle. So it's a very long list meaning not predictable (yet). Konig (talk) 17:39, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

The data can be found on Pact Supply Network Agent/research, which also comes with a link that apparently holds the information you're looking for, though I cannot account for its veracity. G R E E N E R 18:15, 18 January 2017 (UTC)

Economic Table Rows

Why aren't the table row areas listed in a more economical order? I propose the following order: "Maguuma Wastes" "Maguuma Jungle" "Ruins of Orr" Kryta Shiverpeaks Ascalon

It should provide a more economic waypoint route in the long run. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 51.175.118.44 (talk) at 12:38, 24 April 2017‎ (UTC).

It would be nice to provide the most economical route, but this conflicts with the suggestion by another user above that the most economic route was

"Maguuma Wastes, Kryta, Maguuma Jungle, Ruins of Orr, Northern Shiverpeaks, Ascalon"

I will figure out the waypoint cost for the week worth of travelling for each sequence. --Chieftain Alex 19:31, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

I rather doubt that Orr being in the middle rather than at the beginning/end is the cheapest due to the long distance between it and all the other ones (except the one in Mount Maelstrom). And then you have to consider that most people will likely be starting and ending in LA (which means the cheapest would be that which most resembles a circle, which means Orr is at either end) (but then again, the people who would care so much about a couple silver are probably the people that go to PvP/WvW to go to LA). And besides, if Maguuma is Maelstrom then the order definitely isn't the same as if it was anywhere else in Maguuma. All in all, it shifts by the day, and really isn't worth all that much --Gimmethegepgun (talk) 21:11, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

*Grabs monkey wrench; ponders for a moment; throws monkey wrench anyways* Don't forget that the PSNAs can appear across multiple maps in the same week. The subset we chose was mainly to minimize the number of locations/permutations listed. There may be more economical paths if we were to choose to document location B instead of location A for a given ordering of columns. G R E E N E R 21:20, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

To add even more fair warning (i.e. I just grabbed an envelope and looked at the problem), you're attempting to find the column ordering which minimizes the week-over-week travel costs to five NPCs, each of whom could have more than one location in a week which needs to be considered, and you don't even know where you're starting your route from. This is a messed up travelling salesman, and I can only wish you the best ; ).

In the end, human judgment does nearly as well when optimizing such routes compared to algorithms (within the tolerance of material loss). If you happen to get some time on a quantum computer, though, see if you can program that to optimize the ordering! G R E E N E R 22:08, 24 April 2017 (UTC)

It's a seven day cycle and we display 7 rows. We know the position of each waypoint each day, and hence the distance for all routes can be calculated. I can then figure out the cost of each trip and find the total each day. I can then repeat this for all days to figure out the average best route.

I figured out the waypoint distance-cost formula today so I'll apply it tomorrow and see what turns up. -Chieftain Alex 00:03, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

@Original IP poster - well done, your route saves 6  per week, reducing the total cost of waypoints to 53  9 . -Chieftain Alex 19:04, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Caveat, every second day you need to reverse the order for this to be true (day 1: Maguuma Wastes to Ascalon, day 2: Ascalon to Maguuma Wastes). If you don't reverse the order, and start in the Maguuma Wastes every day, then you waste 4  - if you start in the same region every day you should be doing Orr after Ascalon. (MW, MJ, K, S, A, O) -Chieftain Alex 19:09, 25 April 2017 (UTC)

Feedback 2017/5/29

Recipe: Superior Sigil of Torment https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Recipe:_Superior_Sigil_of_Torment is showing account bound but it is not. --Skekzyz (talk) 23:37, 29 May 2017 (UTC)

Fixed. Problem is that there's 3 different items with that name, so all 3 have to be listed. Unfortunately there doesn't appear to be any way to make it display a custom name to differentiate between the 3. Honestly it should probably be 3 separate pages, same with Recipe: Superior Rune of Antitoxin --Gimmethegepgun (talk) 01:40, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

The three different types are now outdated with recipe sharing however. --Skekzyz (talk) 04:21, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

No they aren't. I know the Weaponsmith and Huntsman versions of Superior Sigil of Torment but not the Artificer version --Gimmethegepgun (talk) 04:40, 30 May 2017 (UTC)

Ok I'll believe you. Also I found one today that is not in the list [&AgE6PQEA] https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Recipe:_Spicy_Marinated_Mushroom but it's account bound. --Skekzyz (talk) 00:44, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Updated, thanks! G R E E N E R 03:10, 31 May 2017 (UTC)

Feedback 2017/08/28

Rally Waypoint, Marshwatch Haven Waypoint, & Ridgerock Camp Waypoint not showing their waypoint shortcuts today even with forced reload. --Separ (talk) 23:16, 28 August 2017 (UTC)

If you catch it in the act again, could you let us know? This message appears to have flown under the radar. Perhaps add fireworks, or just cap-lock in the edit summary? G R E E N E R 16:54, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

I initially saw this issue but was uncertain why the template would have chosen only one specific day to bug out and did not have enough knowledge to discover the cause. Perhaps if you roll back the date in the template, you may see the issue appear? Sythe 17:19, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

It's the same bug as the TP price widget (and tanetris's original ascended gear guide). If the widget loads fast enough before the rest of the wikicode, then it processes only one/zero chatlink, and leaves the rest as blank. -Chieftain Alex 17:27, 15 September 2017 (UTC)

Feedback 2017/11/05

Today links for Azarr's Arbor and Mudflat Camp are incorrect, they shows the same a non existing code [&BAAAAAA=], please correct it, maybe some link is missing. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Dhakor (talk) at 08:37, 5 November 2017‎ (UTC).

Bleh. It's bedtime for me, but this is caused by this edit. But we can't just switch Template:Pact Supply Network Agent row to using "Has area id" because waypoints still use "Has game id". We're either gonna have to switch waypoints to using "Has area id" or we'll need some conditional formatting that's too much for my sleepy head right now. --Imry (talk) 09:08, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

By lucky coincidence I spotted the same error and just resolved it. -Chieftain Alex 11:44, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

Feedback 2017/11/10

Today's Mushroom Loaf entry says it has a 6g TP price, but the item I got is account-bound -.- Seems to be this instead of this? -- Kazerniel (talk) 23:20, 10 November 2017 (UTC)

Feedback 2018/01/04

"Recipe: Toxic Focusing Crystal" is NOT account bound on aquire, you can sell it on TP.

Feedback 2018/02/10

Fine Recipe: Bowl of Sweet and Spicy Butternut Squash Soup is account bound. --Separ (talk) 22:57, 10 February 2018 (UTC)

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Recipe:_Bowl_of_Sweet_and_Spicy_Butternut_Squash_Soup#Notes Sythe 07:52, 11 February 2018 (UTC)

Better clarity on locations with same names on table

Need better clarity on locations with same names on table. A few NPCs' locations have same names, but they are actually at several possible places in the vicinity. Specifically, Mehem the Traveled and Specialist Yana.

Mehem is listed as Camp Resolve Waypoint, but he can be either north or south of the waypoint. The table should clarify whether he is north or south. Possible solution: Camp Resolve Waypoint (north), Camp Resolve Waypoint (south)

Yana is listed as Fort Trinity Waypoint, but he can be either at the airship or the harbor. The table should clarify whether he is at the airship or harbor. Possible solution: Instead of the table listing Fort Trinity Waypoint, instead specify Armada Harbor or Caer Aval. -- Shena'Fu (talk) 23:55, 15 April 2018 (UTC)

Feedback 2018/07/21

Formatting issue with Firefox

Using Firefox 61.0.1 I am unable to select the WPs to copy into chat. Copying them in Chrome (67) works fine. --174.127.245.29 22:57, 21 July 2018 (UTC)

See this thread; https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1585393 (false lead)

I am able to reproduce the issue. It seems to be that switching tabs (after loading the page) and then tabbing back makes it work fine, which is a terrible workaround. I really am not confident i'll be able to fix this issue. -Chieftain Alex 08:35, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

I think it is now working after some minor table tweaks (added an arrow into the first row to avoid it being blank - not sure what fixed it but its working for me now), please confirm if you're continuing to have issues. -Chieftain Alex 09:08, 22 July 2018 (UTC)

Incorrect

The table is not correct today. I didn't look before the update, but it shows Camp Resolve for the first column, and the agent isn't there.

Does anybody know how to update it? Daddicus (talk) 01:32, 23 January 2019 (UTC)

Feedback 28/03/2020

The table doesnt show chat links anymore Update: Seems to be fixed on certain days, other days still have the bug

the error occurs again since a few days 10:43, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

Right now it is related to the SMW issues everywhere on wiki, as also described on the site notice. DJemba (talk) 10:55, 14 September 2022 (UTC)

API Key Support

Can this page support an API key to know what recipe's are already unlocked for an account? —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 24.42.147.36 (talk) at 13:15, 14 April 2023 (UTC).

Check See also. The list is huge so I guess a part of the reason why it's on another page is to prevent long load times here. ~Sime 15:42, 14 April 2023 (UTC)

Locations out of sync on 2024-06-13

For some reason the vendors are at tomorrow's locations (those of 2024-06-14). Anyone have a clue why? VectorSomething (talk) 08:13, 13 June 2024 (UTC)

Alright, seems to be working against as of yesterday. VectorSomething (talk) 19:47, 15 June 2024 (UTC)