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Welcome home[edit]

And you are hereby attending the event. Right? Yup, that's right! Your schedule is so full and bustlin'! :D - Infinite - talk 14:32, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

You may already know it but..[edit]

I'm back home again. the vacation was fun! and I'm glad to be back (though my guild has seen better days (one of my offi's has transformed my guild to being the realm of torment itself!) --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 19:00, 13 August 2011 (UTC)


I left u a message on tweeker xD(u need to archieve ur talk too ;/)--Angelkiss User IcyyyBlue Elementalist Blue.png 07:27, 16 August 2011 (UTC)

I KNOW! Q.Q but I don't get enough love to archive a talk page --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 07:30, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
it says warning 46kilobytes lmao --Angelkiss User IcyyyBlue Elementalist Blue.png 07:31, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
I know and that warning is my only friend Q.Q --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 07:32, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
<3 are u on msn...theres nothin on tweeker ;P --Angelkiss User IcyyyBlue Elementalist Blue.png 07:33, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
Yes <3 ^^ --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 07:34, 16 August 2011 (UTC)
maybe tomorrow we do WoC xD --Angelkiss User IcyyyBlue Elementalist Blue.png 20:52, 16 August 2011 (UTC)


good stuff --Xu Davella 08:36, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Logan reminds me of Snow. Hurray for Troy Baker! - Infinite - talk 08:38, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Snow Villiers? Poor character, but good voice acting, yes. I'd rather remember Mr. Baker from bunch of other roles than that. Mediggo 08:55, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
I didn't notice Baker until Snow, to be honest. Not quite sure why, but he just never struck me as an interesting VA. :\ - Infinite - talk 08:59, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Me neither, but I've heard many people recognize him from and give credit for his other roles. Mediggo 09:36, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Well he did mostly anime (which I will not watch in dubbed version in the first place) and video games (most of which I will never play) so, credit due where it is, but it's obvious to me as to why I didn't know of him until FFXIII. It's still weird, as his voice is awesome to me. :P - Infinite - talk 09:43, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
He's done a lot of uncredited and minor roles. I could theoretize that he is more known in America, because anime gets dubbed there moreoften than in Europe (or at least so I think). Mediggo 09:49, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) talking about me and ON my talk page while I'm at school huh? @#!*%  ;) -- 09:50, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
I didn't realize... uhh... I don't think we're talking about... you? :P Mediggo 09:52, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Xu was.. and now you're talking about Snow/baker xD -- 09:53, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, it's funny how the discussion flows. :3 Mediggo 09:57, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
meh imma return to work (meaning I'm going to draw chibi logans again! WOOP WOOP ) cya later I've got a free hour soon ;D -- 09:58, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
We hardly get anime, but the anime we get is dubbed. I watch the Japanese originals, though (needless to say, not on telly). - Infinite - talk 10:32, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

For short[edit]

@#!*% .. it seems I'm too tired for school... I had english while I was chatting with Mediggo... atm it's my free hour.. but now I'm Absent.. (for the school's system that is..) -- 10:19, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
Too bad there's nobody chatting anymore! Mediggo 11:16, 12 September 2011 (UTC)

Found you!

Have no fear, Xru is here!

Now how i join your gang of GW2 and the RP Seraphim

Cheers from Friesland

© Master Xru 08:18, 13 September 2011 (UTC)

Just add your username or character name here like every other name. Mediggo 08:36, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


What u want for ur birfday in GW :P? --Angelkiss User IcyyyBlue Elementalist Blue.png 05:57, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

I don't usually celebrate my Birthday as I don't think it really matters but your smile is more than enough to make my day ;) --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 14:02, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
I celebrate my birthday for free stuffs :) --Angelkiss User IcyyyBlue Elementalist Blue.png 17:28, 14 October 2011 (UTC)

Just to clarify![edit]

I saw your joke(Or criticism) on the chat for that armor pic, and I'm not offended or anything, but I think you and some of the other people in the jagged horror discussion got the wrong idea. I'm not upset that Anet is introducing new minion designs, just disappointed that the old jagged horror design isn't being recycled or remade(You can't deny it was pretty great), and moreso disappointed that not a single thing about that skill nor the minion it creates implies jaggedness.--GerrohUser Gerroh GerrohEmblem.gif 19:26, 16 October 2011 (UTC)

I reckon that the Jagged Horror minion was one of the best minion skins in Guild Wars (I found shambling a tad better) but don't make a big deal out of it! ^^ it's just a minion! :D I bet you'll find other minions in GW2 with a skin equal or better than the Jagged Horror! anyhow I got your point and I didn't try to criticize you, I've made huge deals of useless stuff in the past myself so this is nothing at all! ;) I hope we're still able to be friends haha! (and after all this minion skin could be a placeholder (don't think so though)) --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 20:58, 16 October 2011 (UTC)
Obviously the vampiric minion skin was the best. /endsarcasm. Honestly, the three non-Flesh Golem skins which were actually unique unto themselves were the better ones - fiend, shambling, and jagged. Shame the devs were lazy with minions and vampiric. :/ But honestly, none of them were so cool, so epic, and just outright so freaking awesome that they should be included in GW2. I'd take new skins (and with each minion being different please!) than the old ones tbh, just for variety. I won't complain if those three return (especially fiend and jagged), but it's not something to cry about (not saying you were Gerroh, I'm speaking in general). However, I still hold that the new fiend is better than all gw1 minions. Undead devourer ftw. Konig/talk 00:15, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
I'd theoretize that some GW1 minions shared the base bone horror model because they behaved much in the same way in combat (though one should never go Death Nova bomb with Vampiric Horrors). Bone Fiend and Shamblng/Jagged had rather unique "passive" combat traits which weren't dependant on the master. However, in GW2 seemingly all minions have different roles, and as such they can be expected to have new skins and models for identification. :) Mediggo 06:49, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
Err... I have to disagree with "I'd take new skins (and with each minion being different please!) than the old ones tbh, just for variety."
My main will be a Necromancer. If I'm disappointed with the appearance of minions - which I am - then I don't want to be stuck with them for years. Perhaps there'll be a way of changing their appearance (PvE only?).
I also have to say, I prefer the old fiend skin.
Quality > Novelty
One is eternal, the other lasts a week. User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.png A F K When Needed 08:29, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
That's actually a funtastic idea, the ability to change minion's appearance. The issue it may present with balance(Enemy being able to identify minions from a distance) could be solved by just having YOU see minions as what you decide, almost like Texmod, but deeper, going into the model itself. Doubt they'll do it, though.--GerrohUser Gerroh GerrohEmblem.gif 23:50, 17 October 2011 (UTC)
I'm sure there's a simple way around any issues, if they embrace the concept.
Minor Trait: Bone Horror - Your Bone Fiend now resembles Jormag instead of a Devourer. (Disabled in PvP zones)
I'd prefer it being universal instead of a "just for you" quirk, but anything's better than nothing at the end of the day. User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.png A F K When Needed 03:31, 18 October 2011 (UTC)

Templates and categories.. Again...[edit]

{{Male}} & {{Female}} , do we need them? yes/no? what do you guys think?

I don't bother creating them if we agree upon having these. P.S. History shows that these are actually usefull. --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 17:31, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Some people may want them for their user-space. Hope you don't mind, but I switched the direct linking to a template that removes the link if there's no page. Konig/talk 18:50, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
this is good too. I kept the links for a quick creation once we agreed upon them, but they're useless anyhow so thanks for changing and replying Konig. --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 18:52, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Do we need them? Not really. Does it harm anything to have them? Not really. So go ahead if you want to. -- Cyan User Cyan Light sig.jpg 18:55, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
I'll wait some time (not too much) to give people a chance to give their opinions, thank you Cyan. --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 18:58, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
Why I suggest to keep it is because we may need to categorize NPC in such way. And maybe there should be a gender unclear template. User:Glastium Glastium | talk 19:50, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
I fail to see why categorizing NPCs as male or female would be of any benefit to the wiki (just more unnecessary work). From my perspective, such templates are purely for userpage use. Konig/talk 20:17, 2 November 2011 (UTC)
yea let's NOT use these templates on NPC pages as that's only more work.. (and you should be able to tell male/female by name/looks/description anyway.) --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 20:18, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Birthday Congratulations[edit]

Gratz Guild Leader! --AdventurerPotatoe User AdventurerPotatoe Engineer tango icon 200px.png - 23:08, 4 November 2011 (UTC)

Thank you potato <3 you're the first of everyone (including my own family) to congratulate me ^^ --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 07:14, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
Well, its easy to remember the 5th november, especially when you're constantly pressing F5 in hopes of things to happen on variouis sites. :P I hope you'll have a great birthday. --AdventurerPotatoe User AdventurerPotatoe Engineer tango icon 200px.png - 12:15, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
Thanks potato, so do I. ^^ --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 13:57, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
Remember remember the fifth of November, the Dragon's birthday and plot. I know of no reason why the overpower Holy son should ever be forgot. Konig/talk 20:28, 5 November 2011 (UTC)
A late happy birthday! I didn't get any presents at mine, but I'm not holding a grudge and will give you a cake anyway User Chadarian Ecto Cupcake.png although I'm still disappointed at you for not giving me any presents ;P Chad 20:55, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
N'awww sorry and thank you ^^ I like Ecto-flavored-cupcakes! :D --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 20:55, 9 November 2011 (UTC)
Happy late Birthday! Sorry I'm late, I got held up on the Eisenhower.... Oh, the party's over..... Sorry on the late part of that "Happy late Birthday"--User Necro Shea mo signature.jpg Necro Shea Mo 03:46, 10 November 2011 (UTC)
haha NP Shea thanks though :) --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 21:33, 10 November 2011 (UTC)

Love to Sign as Friend[edit]

Hey Holy, I'd love to sign as a friend but I dont know how to sign within the block so that I don't mess up the page. I'm not really good with wikitext as you can see on my page. But just letting you know that it is an honor to a wiki friend of a fellow lore fanatic.--BookofTyria 01:15, 20 November 2011 (UTC)

hey book it's an honor for me too, and as a friend I'd like to tell you your signature is broken :) it's: --[[User:Bookoyria|<font color="green">BookofTyria</font>]] instead of: --[[User:BookofTyria|<font color="green">BookofTyria</font>]] (Bookoyria -> BookofTyria) :) --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 11:42, 20 November 2011 (UTC)
I think I fixed it. Do not know how but I think its fixed.--BookofTyria 02:40, 23 November 2011 (UTC)

Happy new year![edit]

to everyone reading this post! --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 23:02, 31 December 2011 (UTC)

Thank you, same to you! --TalkpageEl_Nazgir 23:24, 31 December 2011 (UTC)
Happy New Year, GMT and onwards! <3 - Infinite - talk 00:50, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Still isn't for a few more hours here, but Happy New Year to all Venom20 User Venom20-icon-0602-sm-black.png 01:24, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Happy New Year!! (Only 11 months and 12-21 days left!) <- JK.--User Necro Shea mo signature.jpg Necro Shea Mo 06:56, 1 January 2012 (UTC)
Happy New Year to everyone who actually had one! :) (Coz I was booored.) Lhimez 12:53, 1 January 2012 (UTC)


Its not working for me. So, what do I do? --AdventurerPotatoe User AdventurerPotatoe Engineer tango icon 200px.png - 13:38, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

does it give an error or what happens? --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 13:39, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
Clicking the link doesnt do anything, doing it manually makes it load a long time and then when it stops, it says "This webpage is not available", I've tried navigating there in other mysterious ways, but nothing works. --AdventurerPotatoe User AdventurerPotatoe Engineer tango icon 200px.png - 13:43, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
how about getting yourself an IRC client? --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 13:44, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
Might I suggest an IRC tutorial to put up alongside the chat information? - Infinite - talk 13:51, 11 February 2012 (UTC)
I dont quite get what the tutorial means by 'honor system' and 'modest fee'... --AdventurerPotatoe User AdventurerPotatoe Engineer tango icon 200px.png - 14:03, 11 February 2012 (UTC)

Steam and User Page help[edit]

Dude, two questions:

  • Do you have steam?
  • Could you help me set up my user page?

Thanks in advance Drakeskull 11:35, 14 March 2012 (UTC)

GW2 Pre fase[edit]

And so it begins, today pre ordering the entertainment in my life for the next years to come. Next three months preperation are needed to survive the launch. So what are your ideas in this stage of the game for beta weekends and more important launch and set up guild(s)? Cheers to all on this historical day. Master Xru 05:30, 10 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you ![edit]

Thank you for your short guide, it is very useful and I'm sure it will serve perfectly as a reminder from time to time.
I do have another question though, if you create a new page but you lack some information or a picture for example, should I add some information that people know the page still needs updating or is it best to leave it blank ?

Kind Regards, Bullshizle User Bullshizle B.png

Using the template {{stub}} at the top of the article will tag it as incomplete, including a request to expand it. - Infinite - talk 14:00, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) no problem at all Bullshizle! (one small piece of advice, move your signature picture to User Bullshizle B.png [[file:User_Bullshizle_B.png|19px]] and keep in mind that it doesn't break the sentences on the wiki (large signatures do, that's why that dragon of mine has a px (pixels) of 19 (which is the maximum)
but ok, your question!
for pages that need more information (that you can't find, or that doesn't exist yet) we've got a template called Stub, used by typing: {{Template:Stub}} --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 14:01, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
Also remember to edit your signature in your preferences after the move. :) - Infinite - talk 14:08, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
I uploaded a new signature which is 19/19px, I don't know all the guidelines but I'm grateful for all your support, it makes me feel welcome and I'll try to learn from my mistakes. A whole lot to remember at once but I'm sure I'll manage. Kind Regards, BullshizleUser Bullshizle B.png


If I take a look at the "Recent Changes" page I find a lot of green numbers that have this format: (+356), could you explain what these numbers mean ? Kind Regards, Bullshizle User Bullshizle B.png

that's the amount of characters in the edit, as in +9000 or -666 --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 15:47, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
I can't thank you enough ! Something off topic and I hope I'm allowed to ask it here, do you also play Guild Wars ? Kind Regards, Bullshizle User Bullshizle B.png
I do play Guild Wars, I have since 2005 (!!) My in-game name is: Ranging Elf Warrior (my ranger). I despise that name :p and again, you're allowed to ask me anything on my page. --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 15:55, 16 April 2012 (UTC)
I've added you to my friendslist, hope to see you ingame sometime ! ;`) Kind Regards, Bullshizle User Bullshizle B.png

Page Editing[edit]

If I think a page does not look appealing to read, am I allowed to change the lay-out of that page to make reading easier ? What if people think my update is not good, is there previous lay-out lost then.. ? Kind Regards, Bullshizle User Bullshizle B.png

Whenever you think you're able to improve the lay-out of a page, you're allowed to change it. if other users disagree they're allowed to tell so on the page's talk/discussion page. Also previous lay-outs are never lost, the wiki documents all pages' history. --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 12:42, 17 April 2012 (UTC)
Thank you for your quick reply, I have changed several pages but I didn't submit them yet because I was waiting for an answer. Good to know that pages don't get lost ! Makes me feel more comfortable changing bits and pieces.. Kind Regards, Bullshizle User Bullshizle B.png
No problem at all Bull. --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 12:57, 17 April 2012 (UTC)

World page[edit]

Since you are the person that helped me at the very beginning of my Wiki expierence maybe I can ask your opinion about this, the user who created the "World" page has no talk page and you know your way better around Wiki than I do, the "World" page contains a list of servers but these links bring you to the Guild Wars Wiki pages, do you think it's appropriate to unlink the whole list ? Kind Regards, Bullshizle User Bullshizle B.png

I checked the page myself just now, and the only link I found was gw1:Anvil Rock. Which I've removed because the server Anvil Rock isn't the same as the Guild Wars 1 Explorable Area with the same name.

(and thus as you suggested it would've been best to remove the link, next time please don't be afraid to change it yourself! :) it's a wiki, we're always able to revert it if it's gone wrong.)--you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 13:55, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

beta weekend[edit]

So you're going to be looking into skills, right? I'm going to be looking for all the minor stuff for elementalists that have been left alone (like the effects of the arcane traits on skills that are very vague as to what they do, like the dodge that creates a skill effect based on attunement). But I also remembered skill tiers, which I believe still exists. If you're going to be looking into skills, see if you can't record how they change over time (ie level), and when. I have a template ready to be used if we can find if/how they change, and at what level determines the tiers. I don't know if it's like 1-9, 10-19, all the way up to 80 being the last tier, or if it's 1-10, 11-20, ending with 71-80 (we were told a tier = every 10 levels). Just saying cos if possible, that would be another great add-on to skill infos. =)

BTW, here it is awhile. See how it would/could be used to record changes? Of course it can be modified if it really needs to be, if you/i/we find stuff that just doesn't fit in that form. It's also only set to 5 lines right now, but that can be increased if skills use more - that won't be an issue for updating cos it only shows what all is used anyways. ~~ User Kiomadoushi sig.png Kiomadoushi 00:17, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

heh, sure Kio! :) --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 08:51, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Just to note, I shall be screenshotting everything I can, but I don't think I'd be able to be bothered with updating everything... Anyone who'd take all my screenshots via email (the more the better) to help upload the info? Konig/talk 20:41, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
I think I could spare some time to do that for you Konig, or I could at least try and help. I bet you'll be able to find my mail through the Wiki mailing system. --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 20:42, 26 April 2012 (UTC)
Day 1 of beta (for me) ends with 2,313 screenshots - all four cities fully explored and every named NPC I could find talked to (with dialogue options saved), sans a couple speed boost NPCs and "Runner" npcs (which I shall cover tomorrow), as well as mapping all of Queensdale (sans 1 PoI I just cannot find) and talking to a bunch there... Tomorrow's task: runners, Plains of Ashford, Wayfarer Foothills, and Kessex Hills. And on Sunday, Snowden Drifts and Diessa Plataue (and if I have time, WvWvW areas). I wonder how many screenies I'll end up with. Konig/talk 09:43, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
That PoI is likely obscured by a waypoint icon, or somewhere underground/underwater. Or maybe not implemented yet. - Infinite - talk 13:34, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
I have all of the Queensdale PoIs, and none of them is obscured I believe. I'll make a screen then Alfa-R User Alfa-R sig.png 15:05, 28 April 2012 (UTC)
Queensdale fully discovered
I have uploaded Queensdale map. Alfa-R User Alfa-R sig.png 17:42, 28 April 2012 (UTC)


give him some love folks --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 20:52, 20 May 2012 (UTC)

Just wanted to let you know. I lul'd. Konig/talk 16:43, 24 May 2012 (UTC)
mission accomplished! --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 17:43, 24 May 2012 (UTC)


Excellent! Thank you very much for jumping in. ^^ I really hope more people will find about this thing or we won't get to have any contest at all. :) Mediggo 12:38, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

haha sure, np! I hope so as well! :) --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 12:39, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

The contest is now open! ^^ If you want to create your own entries (up to two, of which only one can be declared winner), feel free to do so. Mediggo 07:32, 31 May 2012 (UTC)