Talk:Mastery

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Icons[edit]

Not the best quality, but here are the icons for masteries on the level gauge and when one gains a mastery point. http://i1170.photobucket.com/albums/r523/TalysAlankil/Capture%20drsquoeacutecran%202015-03-03%20agrave%2017.37.17_zpsmplbxegw.png (Source). In case anyone can do something with it. User I Elite Starchild I Monk-tango-icon-200.png-Alarielle- (talk) 16:41, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Hijacking section. We could do with the map icons for these masteries. Have we got those on the wiki already? -Chieftain AlexUser Chieftain Alex sig.png 23:58, 26 July 2017 (UTC)

Mastery-related screenshots[edit]

I'll be adding screenshots here, use it wherever fitting.

Gliding bar
Gliding bar.png
"Mastery Point Earned" notice
Mastery Point Earned notice.jpg

Valento msg 18:16, 3 March 2015 (UTC)

Levelling masteries: XP amount[edit]

During this beta test I couldn't help but notice how much XP you need to level up masteries. I had Glider Basics levelled, and I noticed I need roughly 1kk experience to level Thick Wings. Unfortunately I didn't grab a SS during the test, I think it's worth to add "roughly 1kk" somewhere in this article though. – Valento msg 12:26, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

"1kk" do you mean 1M (1,000,000)? —Dr Ishmael User Dr ishmael Diablo the chicken.png 13:29, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
From watching a VOD of the beta I think the first unlock is the standard 254k xp and the second tier is 1016k xp (aka 4 levels). Further tiers might take even more levels to train. Tyndel (talk) 13:42, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
@Ish, yes.
@Tyndel, nice observation. I borrowed a friend's account (2nd time I wasn't invited *sigh*), but he had already levelled first tier, so I didn't know that. It's reasonable that it will scale. – Valento msg 13:56, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
Wait, is this a scaling XP requirement per mastery point? Or is the cost per point constant, like the cost per skill point currently is? —Dr Ishmael User Dr ishmael Diablo the chicken.png 14:19, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
It seems to scale per mastery track. Each subsequent track requires more experience points, increasing by a currently unknown scaling factor (glider I to glider II is 4x more, for example, the former requires 254k exp and the latter 1016k exp). – Valento msg 14:26, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
Wait, there is a misunderstanding I think. Mastery points unlock mastery tracks, but you need to level that track with exp. – Valento msg 14:35, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
You're right, I see now - mastery points are not earned with XP, they're earned through specific actions. I think I got confused because you added the info about mastery tracks to the section about points. —Dr Ishmael User Dr ishmael Diablo the chicken.png 15:22, 27 May 2015 (UTC)
I always avoid creating new sections because I don't know if some information deserve its own section, that's my fault. D:
If you want, you can create a new "Mastery track" section with this information. Sometimes I just feel like my wording will look clunky and awkward. – Valento msg 17:06, 27 May 2015 (UTC)

Feedback 2015/08/08[edit]

Currently the description of the mastery system on the wiki: 'the first track requires 254,000 exp, and the second tier of the track requires 1,012,000 exp' suggests all tracks need the same amounts of experience. this is however untrue, for example the first tier of precursor crafting requires 1.000.000+ already whereas the first track of gliding requires far less. --83.86.5.91 08:18, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Thanks for noticing that, the numbers on the page were from the last test weekend and maybe only for the gliding line. I'll get to adding the xp needed for each mastery later. Tyndel (talk) 08:23, 8 August 2015 (UTC)

Mastery vs. XP[edit]

While you are earning mastery points (the experience part of them), do you stop earning regular experience points? Daddicus (talk)

A level 80 character that is earning experience is only putting that experience towards a mastery. There is no other use for experience on a level 80 character. G R E E N E R 23:09, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
You always gain experience points (exctly as many as shown on the screen in yellow font).
Levels 1-79: when your exp bar is full, you automatically gain a level.
At level 80, without access to HoT: when your exp bar is full, you gain a spirit shard. retired with HoT
At level 80, with access to HoT: when your exp bar is full, you can train the mastery that you have had active, using one more mastery points. (As far as I know, you stop gaining spirit shards.)
At level 80, with access to HoT, if you don't have enough mastery points to train your active mastery: your exp is automatically applied to a different mastery line. This mastery line will be partly completed when you switch to it later.
--Leen (talk) 23:10, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
Are you sure about the spirit shards? Before HoT was released when skill points were split into spirit shards and hero points, I'd stopped receiving anything when I filled my experience bar at 80. Spirit shards did not inherit that feature of the old skill points. So are you saying that functionality was added back to spirit shards for those without HoT? --Cali (talk) 23:48, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
No, you're right, the spirit shards for levels were retired, I just forgot about that! Sorry! --Leen (talk) 23:56, 12 November 2015 (UTC)
I believe I've been receiving spirit shards every time I fill the bar after level 80. I don't know when that would have changed, except apparently now with mastery. (Which absolutely sucks; how are you supposed to earn philosopher's stones and those other things?) Daddicus (talk)

Mastery Points from Map Completion?[edit]

This does not seem to be true, or the definition needs to be more specific. After completing (Tyria) maps, I did not receive any mastery points (I expected to get 1 after hitting 100% for a map). Am I missing something? Dracx (talk) 06:58, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Slight misnomer in the article. It's rewarded for Been There, Done That achievement, which is World Completion, not Map Completion. And once per account. Konig 08:36, 14 November 2015 (UTC)

Feedback 2015/11/25[edit]

Comment in note: Experience received in WvW currently does not contribute to any mastery track, being therefore useless.

While the WvW experience doesn't contribute to any mastery track, that doesn't make it USELESS as it goes toward the WvW rank track which give you titles, chests when you increase a rank and points to allot to the WvW tracks. ---- 70.196.74.245 15:43, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

Experience (EXP or XP) and World Experience (WXP) are two different things. You can get both - oddly - in WvW. The former does help with leveling characters, but not in progressing masteries (similar to how the halloween areas functioned). Also, you sign your comments with four tildes (~) not four dashes (-) and you can remove the 'insert comment here' part. I moved the auto-signature to the end of your comment and deleted the template text for you. Konig 22:17, 25 November 2015 (UTC)

What's in a name?[edit]

So basically, this is just an alternative term for 'level cap'. It even requires XP and replaces the levelling numbers. The only difference is that it's account wide. 80.112.180.116 15:23, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

The fact it literally replaces the level cap would would confirm so.--Relyk ~ talk < 15:56, 10 February 2016 (UTC)

Feedback 2017/05/04[edit]

The statement that the Ancient Magics Mastery track is unlocked by entering any Season 3 map does not seem to hold true. There are posts that indicate that entering Draconis Mons does not unlock the track. I'm unsure about Lake Doric, as well. --Inculpatus cedo (talk) 20:23, 4 May 2017 (UTC)

Judging by this reddit thread, I'll go with the first 2 maps unlocking it. If anyone managed to unlock the track in other maps, add it in, but let's treat it as a whitelist rather than a blacklist. User Noxx Sig.png 17:19, 8 May 2017 (UTC)

"Your current mastery is fully trained"[edit]

Is it possible to disable that constant reminder? I get it every few seconds. I cannot master the trained mastery at the moment due to lack of mastery points. The reminder drives me nuts. --92.218.161.104 20:12, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

One option might be to select a different mastery for your experience to be dropped into, though I can't guarantee this will work. You probably want to bring this up on the forums, as you'll get more people reading it, including the developers. G R E E N E R 20:40, 5 June 2017 (UTC)
But... I can't be the only one who has ever had that reminder annoy him? I tried Googling stuff like "mastery reminder" but nothing relevant immediately came up. I guess I'll try the forums or support if I'm really desperate to get rid of it (I mastered some other mastery that was fully trained, although I'm afraid I'm gonna see the same message again at some point) --92.218.161.104 20:56, 5 June 2017 (UTC)

TWO requirements to work on[edit]

To gain a Mastery you should pay attention to two different requirements that work in synergy. Neither will give you Masteries on their own. The second paragraph(*) of the main page tells what they are but not their interdependence.

Mastery points may be the easiest to gain thru places marked on the map as well as Achievements which can be tracked in your Hero panel. Once they are acquired you might still be unable to activate your chosen skill because of inadequate XP. Conversely, a filled-up "Mastery Training Bar" (still looks like the XP bar) cannot grant Masteries without the Mastery points being gained.

So work at these two together. I suggest gaining the Mastery points first (esp. when many are needed) and then working in the proper regions to fill out the needed XP. Of course, you should watch for things that give the most XP, such as Dynamic events and in some Zones, Renown Hearts which are renewed daily. --Gold Recluse (talk) 12:35, 9 June 2017 (UTC)

I have edited that (*)second paragraph to give a better, more complete description of the process for earning Mastery Points. --Gold Recluse (talk) 22:09, 17 February 2018 (UTC)

Do Central Tyria masteries require HoT?[edit]

If there's anyone who has purchased Pah of Fire but not Heart of Thorns, do you have access to the Central Tyria mastery tracks? The official FAQ is rather unclear about this: "You must purchase Heart of Thorns to unlock and use the gliding mastery, as well as all other masteries introduced in and exclusive to that expansion." User Noxx Sig.png 11:40, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

The word "must" seems far from unclear to me. Official stances may change, if you're all right with waiting to see. As a comparison, I would not expect to find much use for Nuhoch Masteries in a desert. --Gold Recluse (talk) 14:51, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
I'm not talking about Nuhoch masteries, those are obvious, but about Pact Commander, Legendary Crafting and Fractal Attunement masteries. The FAQ states that you need to purchase HoT for masteries exclusive to HoT, which still doesn't exactly answer the question. In other words, what I find ambiguous is: does "all other masteries introduced in and exclusive to that expansion" from FAQ mean "all masteries introduced in HoT, which are therefore exclusive to HoT", or "all masteries introduced in HoT and at the same time being exclusive to HoT"? It does seem like the first meaning might be more likely, but I just wanted clarification. User Noxx Sig.png 17:25, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
Well, apparently the don't: [1] User Noxx Sig.png 07:07, 16 September 2017 (UTC)

Popup should be mentioned, since it's annoying as hell.[edit]

I just spend 100 Euros to be annoyed by a popup, so I'm not in a good mood. As this thread says: https://en-forum.guildwars2.com/discussion/8524/mastery-popup-will-not-go-away now that I own the expansions, I have theoretic access to Masteries - so I get an annoying popup "Hey, your mastery skill is finished, spend some points!" every few seconds. But since I don't have the required mission done yet (I don't even know HOW tf I should do that, it's not as if there is a pointer or something. "Heart of Maguuma" is a bit unspecific), I can't get rid of it it seems.

But maybe I'm missing the obvious? In which case I'd have hoped to find it here.--Cyberman 17:12, 17 February 2018 (UTC)