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Male Elementalists

Has there been any pictures of male elementalists? Or are they hiding it because their armors aren't as great as females like guild wars 1? ~Fabian 20:01, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

I prefer male elementalist armors in gw1, actually. - Infinite - talk 20:08, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

Well, there's a wallpaper, and the phoenix and churning earth skill videos feature human male elementalists. And remember the armors are separated by weight class, not profession, this time. -Yossitaru 20:10, 11 March 2011 (UTC)

I'm missing a new massive source of info?

From where have been taken all this new elementalist skill icons in such a good definition? Lokheit 23:50, 6 May 2011 (UTC)

There. Chriskang 00:03, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

this is like the fourth time this question has been asked. Venom20 01:47, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Really? This is only the third time I answer it. Must have missed one. I'm sad now :( Chriskang 02:09, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Sad Chris is sad. Aqua (T|C) 02:37, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Oh thanks for the info!! I didn't find this asked on talk pages of the new skilss I should have missed something :S Lokheit 08:19, 7 May 2011 (UTC)

Biography questions on class pages?

Is it really necessary? I mean, it'll be lot enough content on class pages already while biography questions upon classes simply provide your starter equipment but nothing more. Glastium | talk 11:40, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Not necessary at all, reverted. - Infinite - talk 14:24, 11 June 2011 (UTC)

Attunements change elite?

Tornado has coloring of air magic skills, and Martin Kersten replied to a forum post about attunement changing elites that one of other elite skills summons ice elementals. Anything else yet? 62.197.173.242 06:47, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

With the information that we currently have, attunements only affect weapon skills. We don't really have any other info. --Xu Davella 09:00, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Since GW2 appears to be focussing on mastering all elements (rather than a single attunement (a concept very popular -albeit strategically lacking- amongst many GW players)), I would imagine Elites not having to change at all. That said, the elementalist has had severe reworkings, so they might have changed that by now. - Infinite - talk 11:09, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

I'd imagine some may be able to change, only as limited as Glyph of Elemental Harmony (which only boosts your current element on top of a heal). Perhaps that elemental summon (i haven't seen the skill for it, only the summoned creature. not sure if anyone else has, but if so, let me know) IS just that - an elemental summon. If your attunement is water, it's an Ice Elemental, and if your attunement is air, it's a Storm Elemental... That would seem logical, and allow you to switch elements around. Though of course, that could easily run into problems... If you just switched from water attunement to fire, and you realize you want an Ice Elemental to aid you, you have 20 seconds before you could summon it. So it seems that even in the case where elites WOULD be logical to change, it's still not great. Either way, you have 12 minutes before you could summon another. If next time you want a Fire Elemental, you can switch your elite to Summon Fire Elemental after the Ice one cools down, which then means changing elites with attunements has no purpose besides causing problems for performing the elemental elite you want (that's the adjective elemental, not the noun/attributive Elemental beast). If there's ever a skill that really seems important to changing with the attunement, I think it will be a little more obvious, or a little more less-of-a-major-effect than changing what element your Elemental is, and what they do. ~~ Kiomadoushi 17:15, 4 July 2011 (UTC)

Removing the image of the lady in red

As what I said, it's not iconic figure of an elementalist. A necro or a mesmer can dress like that as well. Suggest to remove the image. Glastium | talk 17:10, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

What we do know: That render is the exact same female ele shown in the ele skill videos

What we do not know: Whether all armor sets look the same on varying professions.

Keep. --Briar AHOY! 17:17, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Keep it for sure. of course any profession can wear armor of the same class. that fact does not mean that the concept art was not intended to represent the elementalist. There is one for each profession. --Moto Saxon 18:27, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

Each profession also has a color scheme, and the red is vary iconic/representative of an elementalist. --Moto Saxon 18:31, 6 July 2011 (UTC)

I am working on an "alternative version" of this page on my User space http://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/User:Gorani/AllEle01 and have removed the red lady in favor of several races wearing light armor (including iconic red, when available and Zojja as the personal story line Elementalist). If more "red renders" (including an Asura, Sylvari & Norn) would be available, this concept coul dbe an alternative to the picture we have right now. --Gorani 10:23, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

I'm in favor of using that picture of yours. It would represent the profession much better. Mediggo 10:36, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

Looks very nice. Do we have confirmation that the "audrey" sylvari render is an ele though? 199.245.34.11 10:38, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

No, AFAIK nobody has encountered Audrey during a PvE experience at the latest demos. I just chose here, because she wears light armor. We also lack a render of a Norn in light armor I could have used, but they most likely look much like the red lady anyway --Gorani 11:21, 2 September 2011 (UTC)

If nobody is raising a red flag, I will replace the red lady with my alternative we discussed four weeks ago tomorrow and we will see if anybody complains (?) --Gorani 16:32, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

If "audrey" isn't a confirmed elemental, then how is that any better than the current image, which BTW is a part of your alternative image. The current is much better, as that look is used in elementalist videos and is official whereas yours holds little better, has speculation, and is fan-made. The text could be refined, mind you, but the current image is preferred imo. Konig/talk 16:58, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Well, 1. The text on the elementalist page says "wears light armor" and not "wears elementalist armor"; 2. My picture shows a variety of races that wear that armor type and not just a human; 3. "Audrey" is an example of the sylvari race with light armor and fits the purpose of illustrating the fact; 4. The iconic lady in red is kept because of reasons you named; 5. Zojja is included as an iconic character from the personal story line, which happens to be an elementalist is also featured. --Gorani 17:40, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Original complaint: "not iconic figure of an elementalist" - does the altered image solve this? No. Ironically: "have removed the red lady" - an untrue statement of the altered image. Audrey was chosen because "she wears light armor" which holds 100% no sway into relevancy of the article elementalist. "My picture shows a variety of races" I fail to see why this is necessary as someone can simply take images and create a gallery - much like what's seen on, say charr; therefore, your arguments for point 2, 3, and 5 are removed. I'm against the image as it doesn't look good, imo, and would prefer the addition of concept art, renders, and website/blog images in a <gallery> format. Konig/talk 18:18, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Um. please go to this page > scroll to the bottom and view the downloadable desktop image on the bottom right. It is the same photo as this one except un-cropped and mirrored and reads "the elementalist" across it. In addition:

• the ele color is red as seen on:
  • this official wiki
  • the concept art on the gw2 webstie
  • the ingame icon when selected the ele profession
• i have yet to see a necro concept art with lightning bolts around the staff

sure the image currently used does not say "elementalist" on it, but you've got to be pritty thick to argue it's not. --Moto Saxon 18:23, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Unless I'm missing something, the discussion is in regards to this image (the woman in which is in 3 of the 6 official site images), not the one at the top. Konig/talk 18:25, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

damn my misguided rant. In any case, this render was used in the ele skills video, has only been shown to us as an ele, and the ele skills video is probably the oldest footage of gw2 we have. How is it not iconic? Until anet starts using this skin under the other scholar professions I'd say it's very iconic. And I agree that's gallery would be fine. --Moto Saxon 18:53, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

On this website the image is posted and described by the artist as an ele. --Moto Saxon 20:46, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

(Reset indent) @Gorani: So you intend to replace a relatively (imo) sophisticated and aesthetically pleasing image (ignoring the fact that is both has the representative colors of an elementalist and is the official wallpaper) EDIT: a render confirmed of being an elementalist with a poorly photoshopped image that is a sylvari EDIT: a bunch of races wearing light (EDIT:supposedly) armor with orbs of skill icons? I'm sorry to put it bluntly, but there is no logical way that I can see that as being a step to improving the article or its design.
Another reason I dislike the idea is that it would need to occur for all profession pages so they could be consistent (as they are currently); I have my doubts that any of the images that kept consistency with that image would be sophisticated or pleasing either. Aqua (T|C) 23:53, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

Can't we just get rid of the image (and all similar images on other profession articles) and make a gallery for them on the articles instead. To clarify, only the image at the top of every profession's article would stay. Much cleaner and that is what galleries are for in the first place. We can make proper renders when the game is out if desired but right now the images are just messy and inconsistent. - Infinite - talk 00:06, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

I like the idea of a gallery of all/some official images and renders. Aqua (T|C) 00:11, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

I like gallies too. Clean is good, a standard for similar pages is great too. --Moto Saxon 01:44, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

"Can't we just get rid of the image (and all similar images on other profession articles) and make a gallery for them on the articles instead. To clarify, only the image at the top of every profession's article would stay. Much cleaner and that is what galleries are for in the first place." +1 Venom20 02:51, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

There's some inconsistency with the use of images on profession articles anyways. Leaving only top image and the galleries does make them little too clean imo, but I suppose it's a matter of taste. Information and accessability should be given preference. Mediggo 04:34, 4 October 2011 (UTC)

Inconsistency regarding weapons

Just wondering if there was new info i'm not aware of or if someone mixed up daggers and scepters/foci. Wiki page states daggers (esp. main hand) are for close range and scepters are for medium range, however the official class page says it's the other way around with daggers being used for medium ranged spells and scepters for close ranged ones. 92.229.62.104 15:35, 17 July 2011 (UTC)13

The elementalist has been redesigned and thus all information needs rechecking. This is a good start. - Infinite - talk 19:56, 17 July 2011 (UTC)

It's also difficult to define the exact charasteristics of elementalist weapons, since attuning to different element changes how they are used or what kind of range are they suited for. Mediggo 06:21, 18 July 2011 (UTC)

Are we going to be less of a butt monkey?

← moved to User talk:Yumiko Ishida

Order of Elements

The order elements are listed in don't seem to be consistent atm. The staff, dagger and trident pages have air/fire/water/earth. focus and scepter are different. Is there a guideline? Alphabetical? According to unlock order? --Eerie Moss 14:25, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

So far I know it was ment to follow the elemental attunements like they are ingame, fire/water/air/earth, like it is on the List of elementalist skills. -- Cyan 14:45, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

According to attunement order as seen on the skill bar, as per above. - Infinite - talk 14:52, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

Preferred element

In the biography step of character creation, elementalists must decide which of the four elements they prefer the most: Could it be mentioned here how that effect game play? I chose the water element and found that on creation I had already had both the fire and water attunements unlocked, is this just standard standard or did my choice effect the 2 starting attunements? Also will I now deal bonus damage with water? 95.147.165.94 20:09, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

As far as we know, the profession-specific equipment question has no effect besides the appearance of your character's starting headgear. It might have some effect in the later stages of personal storyline, but there's no way to know yet.

All elementalists start with fire and water attunement unlocked, and then unlock air at level 3 and earth at level 6. —Dr Ishmael 20:49, 22 July 2012 (UTC)

ArenaNet's developer videos on the Elementalist

Hi everyone,

While discussing with the team, I realized that it may be worth mentioning the livestream video we did about the Elementalist (with Isaiah Cartwright). It may be interesting material to list and I'll let the wiki decide what to do with it:

http://www.twitch.tv/guildwars2/c/2491717

Thanks :) --Stephane Lo Presti talk 21:46, 28 June 2013 (UTC)

Special Skill Types

Hello, all the other professions besides Warrior just has Special Skill types. Warrior and Elementalist has "Special Skill Types - Unique to the Profession." I'm going to edit them out and add shouts to the Warrior for consistency's sake. If anyone disagrees please revert. KCT737 (talk) 01:01, 12 May 2015 (UTC)