Talk:Mist Form

atm mist firm and vapor form have both the same skill icon, and now we know that both are different skill (previosly we though vapor form was the new name of mist form). Then does both skill use the same icon? I know that from video of Gamescom this icon was for vapor form, the downed skill, so why mist have it to? or maybe I'm plain wrong and it was actually the icon of mist form or worst... they share the same icon, which is probally impossible Tech Wolf-Talk 13:06, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

We think that it's the Mist Form icon, due to the general theme of downed skills only using a red/black color scheme. -~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) 02:25, 23 August 2010 (UTC)

Lol.

And i thought Smiters boon was bad.

"6 seconds. 443 energy, 120 second recharge" --Neil • 22:26, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

The energy cost scales depending on the tier I believe. Traits might affect the recharge and length. ShadowRunner 22:27, 23 September 2010 (UTC)

Besides, what it effectively does is do what Shadow Form did before its nerf. Invulnerability should be extremely limited, otherwise it will the only thing you ever see. Aquadrizzt (talk)(contribs) 14:41, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Invisibility during this form?

Watch here at 4:22, and see the elementalist Charr come in from the right side. He then suddenly disappears (while attuned to water), and if you watch carefully, you can see his silhouette moving. So... Mist form is like stealth mode? :O --Amannelle 13:21, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

I think your right amannelle! nice find! (now just hope it is Mist Form) ;3 --The Holy Dragons 13:24, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Well, I had first thought it was mist form, but in my head I kept thinking it was only usable in downed mode, so I thought "Nah, couldn't be". But then when I asked Cyan about it, he too thought it was mist form, which prompted me to check the ele skill list, and lo and behold it is indeed usable as a normal skill. Soooo I'm beginning to think it is Mist form. :D Especially since that ele had just used some fire skills earlier, and had just switched to water attunement (though technically, isn't mist form usable outside of water attunement?) --Amannelle 13:38, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Also, it seems to last for about 6-7 seconds or so... which nicely fits the skill description. :) --Amannelle 13:40, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

^^ yay! --The Holy Dragons 13:46, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Yay for me, I have my moments =P -- Cyan 17:58, 3 October 2010 (UTC)

Yes, yay for Cyan! ^_^ You're the one who prompted me to double check the skill lists. :D You rock, Cyan! :D --Amannelle 15:41, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Ehum, I knoooow =P -- Cyan 17:34, 4 October 2010 (UTC)

Aha! Confirmation at last! here you can see them click the "mist form" skill, and go into mist form for 6 seconds! :D Hooray for being right! :D :D --Amannelle 19:31, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Do note they can use mist form while attuned to fire. :D I know we have that written on our elemental skill listings, but I still think it's interesting. And, of course, now we have video evidence of that fact, which is always nice. :D --Amannelle 19:32, 7 October 2010 (UTC)

Energy Cost

While the effect and recharge may stay the same, it seems unlikely to me that the energy cost remains constant. Anyone know for sure whether it changes or not? because if we don't know then i think the energy cost should be removed from the page Thering 19:04, 21 October 2010 (UTC)

Cantrip

Is there any reason for this skill to exist in Transform table if it's no longer a form? Mediggo 09:19, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

Nope, it's definitely a cantrip by my screenshots. Incidentally, Vapor Form, Avatar of Melandru, and Reaper of Grenth are also not transforms - they're untyped. —Dr Ishmael 12:28, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

I'd argue that Avatar of Melandru and Reaper of Grenth are forms, or at least Avatar is, by the criteria that it changes character appearance and grants new skills. No info on that on Reaper yet. Mediggo 12:41, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

So are we going by how a skill acts, or by what the game says it is? —Dr Ishmael 12:43, 23 May 2012 (UTC)

We should definitely go by how stuff actually works in game. If we copied everything just as it appears in game without testing or making deductions, we'd just be a collection of in-game skill descriptions and not an extensive resource of all things GW2. Even if nothing in game states that Avatar of Melandru is a trans/form skill, it definitely grants you a form which includes new appearance and skills. Elixir X and Elixir S are definitely elixirs, but Elixir X definitely grants a random form. Shrinking apparently disables your skills so that may or may not count as a transform. Mediggo 07:16, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

How about multiple types? - 201.24.9.137 07:21, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

That'd complexify things too much. :p I think transforming is more of an effect rather than individual skill type. There's no traits, for example, that would affect transforming or any other things for that matter. The "Transform" statement on skill descriptions is there to simply make it clear that this skill will make you become something else. Mediggo 07:57, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Yep, it's more like if there's no skill type assigned then choose "Transform", or else the correct skill type described in-game must have priority. - 201.24.9.137 08:06, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Elixir S and X are identified as both Elixir and Transform: [1]. I don't understand your argument up there... of course we "test" and "make deductions," but that's what the Notes section of the page is for. Infoboxes are supposed to "copy everything as it appears in game" because we can't assume that e.g. Anet made a mistake by not flagging Avatar of Melandru as a Transform. Transform is a skill type. —Dr Ishmael 12:23, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Then we perhaps need to make more changes to skill infobox to allow including of multiple skill types, or update those existing Elixir/Transforms skills if it can hold more than two types already. Mediggo 12:42, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

I'd been waiting for SMW to get installed before doing anything about that, but the way things are going I don't know if Anet's ever gonna get around to that. SMW introduces simple methods for handling multi-valued parameters, so we could do |type=elixir,transform instead of having to add a |type2= parameter. —Dr Ishmael 13:38, 24 May 2012 (UTC)

Disrupted Orrian Spectral weapons

While Arcanist Xanf's spectral disruptor is active, the Orrian Spectral weapons have a "Mist Form" buff (id 7901,[&B90eAAA=]) and they are "friendly" (green health bar). Not sure what to name that article, if any. --BryghtShadow (talk) 06:46, 19 November 2013 (UTC)