User talk:Stephane Lo Presti/January-December 2014

Error 503 / wiki outages

Hello Stephane. You mentioned in your last news post that you were looking into these wiki outages. Do you have a way of recording when these service outages occur, or would you like us to log them somewhere? (e.g. the wikis were unavailable today from 14:51 to 15:13 UTC) -Chieftain Alex 15:46, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

Hi Alex, I'll ask our engineer when these outages happened and will report back here. Feel free to do the same and report the ones you see here, so we can see if there's more than what our graph show. Thanks! --Stephane Lo Presti talk 16:57, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

See User:Stephane_Lo_Presti#Update_about_our_work_on_the_availability_issues_and_ability_for_the_GW2_wikis_to_use_NPC_audio_-_March_13.2C_2014 for the times when we think the outages occured. --Stephane Lo Presti talk 20:06, 13 March 2014 (UTC)

April 2014 Feature Pack

I was just wondering if there is any way we can work with you to get as much of these features detailed and on the wiki asap?, as you can see here we have already started a wiki page: April 2014 Feature Pack and the great wiki editor Dr Ishmael has started a project page on their user space User:Dr ishmael/Feature pack- Zesbeer 21:02, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

What do you suggest? (Dr Ishmael can also contact me by email since he's under NDA) --Stephane Lo Presti talk 22:22, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

I am still under nda... any how I was thinking UI screen shots, whatever information you are willing to share with the wiki. I can e-mail you if you would like.- Zesbeer 23:35, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Email would be great, thank you! --Stephane Lo Presti talk 23:37, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

What e-mail would you like me to message you with?- Zesbeer 23:39, 20 March 2014 (UTC)

Use the "E-mail this user" feature of the wiki? --Stephane Lo Presti talk 00:29, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

CC me on your reply, please. :) —Dr Ishmael 03:26, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

e-mail sent to the community@arena.net e-mail because for some reason the 'e-mail this user' link isnt showing up for me in either chrome or firefox.- Zesbeer 05:43, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Special:EmailUser/Stephane Lo Presti :/--Relyk ~ talk < 05:47, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Derp! Apparently having uppercase characters in my e-mail was causing the wiki to not recognize it as a 'valid' e-mail address for some reason. :/- Zesbeer 06:03, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Got the message, I'll reply (+Dr Ishmael and also a few more people) as soon as I can, not sure when that'll be. --Stephane Lo Presti talk 16:27, 21 March 2014 (UTC)

Story summaries

Hi Stephane, I managed to finally get a copy of the BradyGames guide and although there was less lore than I was expecting, the opening chapter is one big wall of text that summarises Guild Wars, Guild Wars Beyond, and some of the events between then and Guild Wars 2. I've noticed there's been a few new players asking around on the forums and reddit etc. for a "one-stop shop" for lore, where they can quickly catch up on all the story so far. We already had the Living World summary, so I figured why not create other summaries where people can catch up on the story so far in GW1 and the personal story. It would look something like this:

Story summaries

Guild Wars

The History of Guild Wars

Novels

Ghosts of Ascalon • Edge of Destiny • Sea of Sorrows

Guild Wars 2

Personal story

Living World

Season One • Season Two

My question is this: what is the copyright status of the Guild Wars story summary in the BradyGames guide? Although all the characters, world etc., are owned by ArenaNet, I don't exactly understand the issues around ownership of a summary written and published with permission by someone else. I know it was fine with the Factions guidebook (we got An Empire Divided out of that), and I think we obtained the Ecology of the Charr by similar means. Here is the discussion from last time this came up, if it helps at all, although it might be different if the contracts with BradyGames are different to those made with PRIMA. --Santax (talk · contribs) 16:24, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

I thought we were going to completely ignore BradyGames and make our own summary?--Relyk ~ talk < 19:14, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

Is that so? I've not seen any discussion, I probably just missed it. If that's the case then never mind :) --Santax (talk · contribs) 19:21, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

I knew this came up before on Stephane's page: User_talk:Stephane_Lo_Presti/April-December_2012#Question--Relyk ~ talk < 19:46, 5 April 2014 (UTC)

You're right! Shame we never got an answer on those questions, although I think using those facts on the wiki as long as it includes a citation of the BradyGames guide (so if they turn out to be wrong, we can blame the guide!). --Santax (talk · contribs) 21:28, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Something that might interest you

A proposal to bring back featured pages. It could tie in nicely with your suggestion above of having a list of pages for promotion on Twitter, etc. (they'd also make good candidates for featured pages). Do you have any thoughts? --Santax (talk · contribs) 21:28, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

Hi Santax. At this point, I think it's too early for me to say anything. When a process is initiated by the wiki community, I tend to not interfere but follow from a distance. The wiki community makes the important decision and I can certainly help answer some questions, help when needed or provide an opinion if necessary (and asked) but it's ultimately the collective decision of the wiki community that matters most. Featured pages have mostly been release pages and I've always used them to promote the wiki on Twitter and sometimes on Facebook. I also want, if and whenever possible, to promote other articles to point players in interesting new directions, especially if it's related to a GW2 news (like the article for WvW when season 1 started). Thanks --Stephane Lo Presti talk 21:50, 24 April 2014 (UTC)

About "Bring more editors to the Wiki"

Hey,

Feel free to let me know what you think about that post. Thanks! —The preceding unsigned comment was added by Stephane Lo Presti (talk • contribs).

Although I don't have anything near the amount of time to help much with something like this in the near future, in principle I fully support the idea of improving the help pages. From reading the forums/reddit, it seems that one of the biggest thing that potential editors find off-putting is working out the wiki syntax, so improving the structure, content, and the visibility of the help pages would make a big difference, I think. I feel like another reddit AMA like this one could be beneficial in finding out what exactly it is we can do to make the prospect of editing less intimidating.

That said, in the specific example you gave, the problem was less with the help pages and more that the guildie just literally did not realise that the wiki was a community-maintained project at all! This is something that I have witnessed in my own guild as well, despite the (admittedly quite easy to miss, and people tend to train themselves to ignore those anyway) grey box, and the big text on the front page that states as much. I can't see an obvious solution to this problem, given that it's something that people really probably should know, beyond putting an advertisement on the main page or possibly even somewhere on GuildWars2.com to the effect of "The Wiki is always looking for more editors!" –Santax (talk · contribs) 12:16, 23 May 2014 (UTC)

This doesn't seem to have generated much attention, but I think now might be a good time to start promoting the wiki. Season 2 feels very much like the start of a new, well, season for the game, and it could be the same for the wiki. In particular, Guild Wars 2 Wiki:Projects/Living World changes is something that will need a lot of attention in the next few days. –Santax (talk · contribs) 22:20, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

I'll definitely start promoting the wiki more but a project page is not the best way to do it, at least on the Guild Wars 2 social medias. I'd suggest talking to Poke about promoting this via the GW2 Wiki twitter account for example. Let me know if you have other ideas! Thanks --Stephane Lo Presti talk 22:30, 1 July 2014 (UTC)

I have Poked Poke again on this matter. On the topic of bringing more editors to the wiki do you think doing a editor highlight/interview type thing would be something that would be appropriate? Anzenketh (talk) 14:37, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

Not only do I think it's appropriate, it's an idea I've got on my list and plan to do to promote editing the wiki. I'll post an update about that on my journal as soon as I can start working on it. --Stephane Lo Presti talk 15:54, 3 July 2014 (UTC)

(Reset indent) I am sorry I haven't been more active lately let me know any way I can help.- Zesbeer 20:05, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

Don't worry about it, I know the feeling ;) I've started the discussion process on our end to try to make "editor interview" something we can feature. Although I can't confirm at this point that we'll be doing them, I'll keep working on it. Thanks for updating this post :) --Stephane Lo Presti talk 21:10, 11 August 2014 (UTC)

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Wyn

Thank you, Stephane and thank you ANet. That was a wonderful thing you did.

I miss you on irc, from the days before you were Stephane (you know what I mean). Simpler times, happy memories. — snograt 22:13, 1 July 2014 (UTC)