Template talk:Stub
Sub Categories of stub[edit]
I think it would be a good idea to go though this and sub-categorize these stubs into some sub-categories like Personal Story, Location, NPC etc.... Especially Personal Story as to work on those someone would need to be on that exact story step or work though a entire character to complete it. I think we should also remove stubs and not put stubs that the only thing missing is a link in red(with the exception of personal story due to the unique nature of it) as Special:WantedPages should take care of that. Anzenketh (talk) 05:36, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- We already have other stub templates that can be used to specify what is needed. And if you come across articles that are not really stubs (anymore), feel free to remove the stub notice. :) poke | talk 13:43, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
- A redlink indicates that another page does not exist, it has no bearing on the stubbiness of the article containing said redlink. So basically I'm agreeing with you on that point. —Dr Ishmael 15:01, 18 August 2013 (UTC)
Showing reason on main page[edit]
I've been looking at the german wiki, and noticing that they seem to use the {{stub}} template the same way our {{image request}} template works. That is, when someone marks {{stub|item|missing ID}} it shows up as a message saying 'this page is a stub because : missing ID'. Would it be possible for us to have something similar to it, or was this opted against for some reason?
This may also be worth extending to {{section-stub}}. -Darqam (talk) 19:50, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- I second this idea, this might reduce how many stubs we have if people know why they're there on the page itself instead of having to go into the edit section. - Doodleplex 20:00, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
/** Bright yellow stub tags so I don't miss them **/ #stub, #section-stub { background-color: yellow; }
- I get my CSS to highlight stub tags in yellow so I have to edit the article to save my eyesight.
- But I guess you two know that hovering over a stub tag shows you what the reason is? I'm not opposed to displaying the reason. -Chieftain Alex 20:56, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- I found out eventually when I started trying to fix the stub tags, but initially no I didn't, and seeing as how quite a few stub tags got left by users who added the content that was missing and didn't see the tag, I can't imagine most people know. Having it displayed might also make it easier for people who want to make a quick edit on a mobile device as you can't really hover over links there. - Doodleplex 21:01, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- Wait what!? I hover over those stub links even now and don't see anything; never have before... Ok well if something is in place then sure... but I've never seen it. Not sure why I don't see it if others do... might look around. -Darqam (talk) 21:08, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- I use Firefox, dunno if that matters, but if a reason was given, then it pops up with the reason, if none was given nothing pops up. Also uh, point proven about people not knowing. XD - Doodleplex 21:19, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- I usually run on firefox and never noticed it, currently on an outdated firefox (I know I know) and don't see anything. Also see nothing on my chrome browser. I look into the inspector tool to the stub div, but there is nothing to indicate a 'hidden' reason. -Darqam (talk) 21:24, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- Example: Join Elizia Skysight as she takes the fight to the chak in their nearby hive I just added a section-stub tag in the Foes section with reason being that the specific chak should be listed. Do you not see it if you mouse over the "expanding it" part? - Doodleplex 21:29, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- OOOOOOOOOOooooooooooooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh. Cool! Welp, my personal need for it is gone; however given that I've been editing the wiki for a little bit and never noticed this (I always clicked edit instead of "expanding it"), it might be worth while to make it slightly more visible, at the very least for stub tags. The example I was originally looking at (bot not asking for similar formatting, just the idea) is on the german wiki here. It essentially reads: "missing information:ID". -Darqam (talk) 21:40, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- Example: Join Elizia Skysight as she takes the fight to the chak in their nearby hive I just added a section-stub tag in the Foes section with reason being that the specific chak should be listed. Do you not see it if you mouse over the "expanding it" part? - Doodleplex 21:29, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- I usually run on firefox and never noticed it, currently on an outdated firefox (I know I know) and don't see anything. Also see nothing on my chrome browser. I look into the inspector tool to the stub div, but there is nothing to indicate a 'hidden' reason. -Darqam (talk) 21:24, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- I use Firefox, dunno if that matters, but if a reason was given, then it pops up with the reason, if none was given nothing pops up. Also uh, point proven about people not knowing. XD - Doodleplex 21:19, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- Wait what!? I hover over those stub links even now and don't see anything; never have before... Ok well if something is in place then sure... but I've never seen it. Not sure why I don't see it if others do... might look around. -Darqam (talk) 21:08, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
- I found out eventually when I started trying to fix the stub tags, but initially no I didn't, and seeing as how quite a few stub tags got left by users who added the content that was missing and didn't see the tag, I can't imagine most people know. Having it displayed might also make it easier for people who want to make a quick edit on a mobile device as you can't really hover over links there. - Doodleplex 21:01, 19 April 2016 (UTC)
reason 'bug'[edit]
So it seems like whenever some puts something of the form {{stub|item|reason=whatever}}, the reason doesn't register when you hover over it. As a general rule, it seems that the equal sign buggers it up. Such an example can be seen at Rolled Parchment at the time of this edit. I'm aware this isn't a huge thing to deal with, but a quick fix can be put into place that would be great. -Darqam (talk) 13:32, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
reason
isn't a valid parameter for this template, which is why it isn't doing anything for you. {{section-stub}} takes the reason parameter. Adding the reason parameter to this template doesn't bother me so i'll do it anyway. -Chieftain Alex 16:58, 26 May 2016 (UTC)
Why hide the info in the title?[edit]
Hey, currently you have to hover over the stub-text to see what could be improved. What's the reason behind this? It's never good to hide stuff from the user, it could be put at the end with a leading : so that it doesn't screw up the sentence. --Cloned (talk) 09:55, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
- I think we talked about this above, but nothing came of it? Either way, this should totally happen, I think it would be a huge help to getting missing stuff added. - Doodleplex 17:54, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
- User:Doodleplex/Sandbox <- I made a test version on my sandbox page(It's at the bottom). Something like that perhaps? - Doodleplex 19:22, 9 November 2016 (UTC)
- Looks fine to me, what more does it need? (Except a picture of a quaggan maybe? :D ) --Cloned (talk) 08:32, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
- As much as I'd like to add a quaggan, I don't think it would be appropriate. =< - Doodleplex 21:30, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
- Looks fine to me, what more does it need? (Except a picture of a quaggan maybe? :D ) --Cloned (talk) 08:32, 10 November 2016 (UTC)
Weird interaction with links immediately after the tag[edit]
- Normal:
{{stub}} Text [[link]] blah blah blah
- Weird:
{{stub}} [[link]] italic text for some reason and normal again.
A couple of examples: Refugee, Envoy Armor I: Experimental Armor —Azurem 19:52, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
- I think I fixed it. - Doodleplex 19:57, 13 January 2017 (UTC)
- Looks like it, good job. —Azurem 20:02, 13 January 2017 (UTC)