Talk:Mazdak the Accursed

Strategy?

How do you beat him? The sword abilities aren't that great, and he's 2 levels above you + champion. As an eng in med armor I'm dead in about 4-5 secs usually if he's targeting me. Given his health he takes at least two minutes of constant DPS, I don't see how it's possible. Some trick here I'm missing?

It is my understanding that having summon skills will help, but as my Ranger only had access to the Seed Turret and Take Root skills, I was never able to defeat him. After spending a week trying, along with 27 silver and 8 instant repair kits, I discovered that Dead of Winter is the hardest of the three Sylvari Order selection quests, and that Mazdak is in all three of them. So, I simply rerolled the character as another profession. But, now, I'm a bit leary to even play my Sylvari, Mazdak the Accursed is way to strong, and the greatswords skill's are far to weak for me to even bother playing a Sylvari any more.--Enda - talk 20:36, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

That's going a bit too far, don't you think? If you really can't kill him (I admit that he's stupidly overpowered), simply ask someone to help you out and form a party

In hindsight... perhaps. However, since there's no way to go back and change any multiple choice personal story quest decision, and I've learned that the other two orders quests against Mazdak are easier. And... I've noticed, while playing my human thief, that the thief has fewer problems with boss' than my ranger did, the choice was obvious. I either continue to waste money on a character stuck in her personnal story trying to beat it and any future problems, leave her idle hoping for a fix, or switching to a profession that is better suited to my playstyle. I chose to reroll.--Enda - talk 20:31, 14 September 2012 (UTC)

I find that MOST of the "boss-type" foes are EXTREMELY difficult (read "next to impossible") to defeat solo. Most of them REQUIRE a "group effort" to subdue. My guess is this is ANET's way of "forcing" group interactions in this game format. That's fine, so long as there IS a "group" available-------------if not, TS. I've seen this same issue a lot (so far) and the only solution is to wait for others to get involved. undouble18:08, 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Sylvari Order Quests

Mazdak the Accursed is all three of the Sylvari Order selection quests. Not just the Dead of Winter.--Enda - talk 20:36, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Dragon Champion

Is Mazdak a dragon champion? And if he is should we add a dragon champion tag?--Sir Biggus of Aggro 15:07, 23 September 2012 (UTC)

No, just a silly Lich who forgot how to stay dead!! Undouble 18:10 24 September 2012 (UTC)

Was he really the first king of Kryta and the son of Doric?

On the Kryta page, he is said to be the one who originally established Kryta before the Exodus and to be a son of Doric. I believe these statements are gathered partly from Sea of Sorrows (book) and partly from this interview with ANet. Quote Ree Soesbee: "I believe he was the first king of Kryta. The son of Orr, the prince of Orr, who left Orr to settle that part of the mainland.".

• "The first king of Kryta": To be a king, you need a kingdom. Since Kryta was established already BE (by Mazdak), but didn't gain its independence before 358 AE, I find it likely that Mazdak was never a king. He might have been acting under the command of the Orrian King (his father or brother). OR maybe he was 'accursed' by the Orrian King and had to flee to (what is now known as) Kryta as an outcast from the royal family? Now that would be really interesting... :)
• "The son of Doric": I can't find any confirmation of this fact. The only info I find is Ree Soesbee's statement about him being "The son of Orr, the prince of Orr". Taking the timeline into consideration, he is of course very likely to be Doric's son, but do we know for sure? Beautiful Ree, feel free to comment! :P ---- Titus The Third 16:07, 24 February 2014 (UTC)

• For point one: Mazdak clearly predates the colonization of 300 AE, given not only his line of human age but the fact he's of Orrian descent. The independence of 358 AE comes from the colonization of 300 AE by Elona - not Orr. So the history of Kryta appears to be: Kingdom established by Mazdak -> Colonized by Elona -> Independence from Elona and Kingdom again. Konig 13:51, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Konig, we agree on everything here, except for whether or not Mazdak was titled 'King'. The one and only source of information supporting this belief is the interview with Ree Soesbee where she says ""I believe he was the first king of Kryta"". That just doesn't seem like strong cannon lore to me, when a developer chooses to "believe" something. Also, I find it remark worthy that all royalty NPCs within the GW-universe have their title (King, Prince, Queen) as part of their NPC name. All except Mazdak, who instead have been titled "the Accursed". This + the timeline not mentioning Kryta as a kingdom before 358 AE, just seems to offer more proof that Mazdak was not a king ... Titus The Third 15:18, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

The developers always state with uncertainty because 1) things are subject to change if they're not in-game, and 2) they didn't have their internal wiki open during the skype interview that is from. They were answering off-hand from memory. There's chance of misremembering, but given that's their job I give them the benefit of the doubt until otherwise proven (and we know that the developers have been wrong in their answering interview questions before, like when Scott McGough said that only nobility can be ministers - Minister Rachel disproves this).

In short: until we have evidence for otherwise, regardless of their inserted "maybes" we take that as cannon because it's all we have.

And on the titles, not all do. Zola was a princess, yet no title to her name. Droknar was a king, yet no title in his name. Besides, Mazdak's title in unlife is "The Accursed" rather than a nobility/royalty title. If "all" nobility/royalty were to have titles in their NPC name, he should have at least Lord to it (given Bragen's dialogue in Dead of Winter).

And on Bragen's dialogue: "This is the crypt of Mazdak, royal son of Orr, who came to these shores so that humans may raise a new nation: Kryta." "My children, and their children, served Kryta and its throne. I do no less in death." Royal son of Orr - ergo whom Ree speaks of - and he had a throne in Kryta - which makes him a king. Konig 16:00, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Benefit of the doubt, I can live with that :) Though, I will still remove "king" from his name on my Family Tree and use his NPC name instead. You're a hard insanity shell to crack Konig, I'll give you that :P Titus The Third 16:11, 10 March 2014 (UTC)