Talk:Mad King Thorn

Is he insane or what?213.114.119.131 02:19, 29 October 2012 (PDT)

Oh yeah, he's mad 71.248.188.83 17:34, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

King Aerys II Targaryen inspired perhaps? --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.8.204.87 (talk).

I doubt it. Thorn was established in 2005 as mainly a joker and his story has been slowly developed over the years. In this halloween we see many references to historical royalty who were less than popular with the people (even from Mary Antoinette), but Thorn doesn't seem to be a reference to any one thing. Furthermore, over a quick skim of this wiki article on Aerys, the only shared aspect I see is the title "Mad King." Konig/talk 23:36, 29 October 2012 (UTC)

There might be more to it than just that. The first book was published back in 1996 and GW1 had several references to the series of books, it was even stated in an interview that ....(one of the 3 founders, don't remember which)was reading the series at the time of making the world of Tyria and that some things do have habit of slipping into things you are creating with and without intent. 188.29.122.157 04:02, 2 November 2012 (UTC)

Voice Actor

WHO IS THIS VOICE ACTOR!? I've searched everywhere and there is no record of the voice actor, I know that voice from somewhere i just cant place it. A name would help Anet. Smoke 06:11, 31 October 2012 (UTC)--

Jon St. John speaking through a Tom Hardy filter. --173.248.215.153 17:38, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Fred Tatasciore! Bobby Stein 18:12, 8 January 2013 (UTC)

Puns

• I fought an asura warrior the other day, and my shins are KILLING me! (laugh)
• It seems the sylvari are here to stay. As no one has nipped them in the BUD, I must assume they're all of good STALK. Maybe they'll GROW on me. (laugh) Plant puns, people, please!
• I was confused when a servant informed me of the dredge revolt in the Shiverpeaks. As far as I'm aware, dredge have always been revolting! Get it? Ugly bugly! Hoo! (laugh) They're ugly.
• The other night, a charr warrior told me everything he knew. It took about ten seconds.
• I'm so disappointed that the dwarves have disappeared. I had so many good jokes about short things. And beards.
• What do you call a sylvari who's round and green? MELON-y! You know, like the name, but also the fruit? Why aren't you all laughing? The, the melon, Melony...Laugh! Or I'll kill every last one of you humorless worms!
• Were you aware that grawl have engineers? It's true. I hear one of them invented a new gadget called a "stick".
• Two quaggans were walking in a cow pasture. The first turns to the second and says, "Foo." The other replies, "Cows say moo." The first looks down at his flippers and says, "No, foo. Poo." (snicker)
• Why can't you borrow money from a dwarf? Because they're always a little short. Ha! Get it? Ha ha! Ah, yes, I miss dwarves.
• At the Durmand Priory, what is an asura's best friend? A bookah.
• Here's a funny story. Recently, one of my vassals said to me, "Your Majesty! I can't feel my legs!" And I replied, "Of course, you can't, stubby. I cut your arms off!" And I had! (laugh)
• I paid a visit to Ascalon before coming here, and I'm not judging—but did shaving go out of style or what?
• What do you say when an asura praises you? No one knows yet. (chuckle) Right?
• Sylvari are certainly naïve. They'll be-LEAF anything they hear! (laugh)
• What's the fastest way to anger a norn? Tell her you've never heard of her. Ahhh, it's funny because it's true. (laugh)
• I wanted a sylvari court musician for a while, but I gave up on the idea. I'm told their music is too SAP-py! It's really wasted on you.
• I hear—oh, this is a good one—I hear the mortality rate for hylek is very high. They croak every night! (laugh)
• What's a norn's favorite drink? The next one! (laugh) They're all drunk.

--zeeZ (talk) 19:31, 31 October 2012 (UTC)

Here's some more sorted alphabetically. (Methinks they're not all puns but rather jokes)

• Hey, I see a lot of weapons down there. Are you planning a revolt? Against me? (laugh) Well, you are all pretty revolting!
• How did the bear ruin the picnic? He ate five people and all the potato salad.
• How many asura does it take to make a sandwich? Depends on how thin you slice them!
• I'd like to take a nice vacation down to Arah. Go swimming, get some sun. You know, work on my Zhai-tan?
• Now, where's that life of the party, Theo Ashford? C'mon out, Theo! Where are—what? Really? Oooh, never mind.
• Ooh, it was rough partying with the norn last night. Call me Jormag, because today I'm "dragon."
• The prince has never been on his best behaviour. You could say that being his parent was an "heir raising" experience.
• What do you call a human wearing a charr suit? No... Wait for it... A CHARR-latan!
• What's black and blue and stuffed in a box? My son!
• What's the difference between a sylvari and a potted plant? Potted plants don't scream when you cut their legs off and shove them in dirt!
• What's the difference between charr and norn? The charr have dandruff everywhere!
• You'd go to Elona? By yourself? Aren't you worried about traveling alone-a?

--BryghtShadow (talk) 11:43, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Health

Did anyone get a rough idea of how many HP he has when you fought him in the Mad Kings Realm? Puk 09:36, 16 November 2012 (UTC)

The Centaur War

I happened upon a book today called The Centaur War, in the Durmand Hall in Divinity's Reach. it reads: "Early in his reign, Krytan King Thorn proposed a treaty to the centauren tribes, but the centaurs rejected its terms as unfavorable." I'm not sure if there are were more King Thorns before him, but if it was the Mad King, then this could mean he had a serious effect on the centaur aggression. Darktemplar56 (talk) 04:15, 23 September 2013 (UTC)

There was Oswald's father, but I think typically "King Thorn" refers to Mad King Oswald Thorn. Konig 06:13, 24 September 2013 (UTC)

IIRC, Oswald Thorn ruled a couple centuries before the modniir centaurs were almost wiped out by humans and norn (around the time of GW1 EotN), which sparked their current aggressive expansion. Mediggo (talk) 14:08, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

"His remaining son"

The Wiki page is written in such a way that one would think Oswald had two sons. The text first states that he locked his son Edrick away in the Shell of Insanity, and thereafter it says His wife and remaining son were also killed, ending the Thorn dynasty. This does suggest that he had a second son, who was killed by the mob. Can anyone clarify if any official/in-game source supports this belief? If not, I think the "remaining son"-part should be removed from the text. Prince Edrick's death is already explained in the paragraph above. ---- Titus The Third 06:56, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

It's just an editing issue that occurred because of the reveal of Edrick's existence came after the reveal of Oswald's son being mentioned by Wynn. Wynn was around before Edrick was wiped from the records and in fact the assault he mentions is because of Edrick (see The Family Business). (Edit: This means that Wynn would know of Edrick, thus would say sons if Oswald had two.) So the two are one and the same, but because of the order of information gain, people thought/edited otherwise. Konig 13:54, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Thank you for your clarification Konig, and for updating the page. Titus The Third 14:59, 10 March 2014 (UTC)

Family trees

Ref. Tyrian Royalty family tree. I added a section of the family tree here. Might not be the right place, or the right way.
Please consider this only a suggestion. User:Santax said that there's "no point in having this if people can't find it:)", and I agree. To implement family trees on some of the individual Wikipages for members of the royal family could be one way to improve that situation.
At the same time, it could also create a lot of extra work when a change is made to the main tree. And it could end up looking more messy than helpful on the individual pages.
A better solution may be to just link to the main family tree under each royal character's "History" section. I won't add any more mess, before I get some responses on what would be the best solution :) Titus The Third 14:14, 26 April 2014 (UTC)

Dialogue outside of town, 2016

Queensdale

Mad King Thorn: By the ghost of me, what is this?

Mad King Thorn: I leave for a couple of hundred years, and I come back to this? Have you completely forgotten whom you celebrate?

Mad King Thorn: This feeble imposter is a disgrace. I don't putter about telling poorly-constructed nursery rhymes. Insulting!

Mad King Thorn: He doesn't even look like me. His head isn't on fire! This oversight must be rectified! Set him on fire!

"Mad King Thorn" is set on fire.

Mad King Thorn: Sad, sad people of Tyria, clearly you have missed my influence.

Mad King Thorn: But fear not, for I, the mighty and benevolent King Thorn of Kryta, have returned!

Mad King Thorn: I paid a visit to Ascalon before coming here, and I'm not judging—but did shaving go out of style or what?

Mad King Thorn: I'm so disappointed that the dwarves have disappeared. I had so many good jokes about short things. And beards.

Mad King Thorn: Why can't you borrow money from a dwarf? Because they're always a little short. Ha! Get it? Ha ha! Ah, yes, I miss dwarves.

Mad King Thorn: Loyal subjects! How can I leave you? My royal heart would be breaking if I still had one.

Plains of Ashford

Mad King Thorn: By the ghost of me, what is this?

Mad King Thorn: I leave for a couple of hundred years, and I come back to this? Have you completely forgotten whom you celebrate?

Mad King Thorn: This feeble imposter is a disgrace. I don't putter about telling poorly-constructed nursery rhymes. Insulting!

Mad King Thorn: He doesn't even look like me. His head isn't on fire! This oversight must be rectified! Set him on fire!

"Mad King Thorn" is set on fire.

Mad King Thorn: Sad, sad people of Tyria, clearly you have missed my influence.

Mad King Thorn: But fear not, for I, the mighty and benevolent King Thorn of Kryta, have returned!

Mad King Thorn: Here's a funny story. Recently, one of my vassals said to me, "Your Majesty! I can't feel my legs! And I replied, "Of course, you can't, stubby. I cut your arms off!" And I had! (laugh)

Mad King Thorn: Were you aware that grawl have engineers? It's true. I hear one of them invented a new gadget called a "stick."

Mad King Thorn: The other night, a charr warrior told me everything he knew. It took about ten seconds.

Mad King Thorn: Loyal subjects! How can I leave you? My royal heart would be breaking if I still had one.

Walking Around Lion's Arch

I saw Mad King Thorn walking around Trader's Forum today around 03:10 UTC. He told some of the jokes listed on the old dialogue page, plus a new one:

Mad King Thorn: The prince has never been on his best behavior. You could say that being his parent was an "heir raising" experience. (laugh)

He disappeared after the dialogue with Drooburt's Ghost. Should the old dialogue and note about him walking around Lion's Arch be restored to the main page? Anyone else want to verify that he's walking around again this year? Erianna (talk) 03:25, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

It should be on this page, yes, in the Mad King Thorn#Lion's Arch section. It doesn't seem to have been removed from the page, just was not yet documented (there's more, I'm sure). Konig (talk) 03:31, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

About the note saying he used to walk around LA - he technically doesn't, he teleports from place to place. I think just documenting the dialogue is enough but if you want to add such a note feel free. Konig (talk) 03:33, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Him walking around LA I think dates back to the original map. I remember him leading a "parade". He definitely doesn't do it any more. SarielV 03:51, 30 October 2018 (UTC)

Every full hour the Mad King says ist NOT starting, he will appear at the piazza and will either walk to Fort Marriner where he can have two different dialogues with Evon Gnashblade, OR he will walk up to the trader's forum where he will have a talk with Drooburt. On the way to each location, he will tell us all the jokes that were in the game since 2012, so the "previous dialogue" page is still in game.--Aylia (talk) 17:32, 1 November 2020 (UTC)

Travelling to Elona

Well I read the biography and see that Thorn forced the Istan Princess Zola to marry him. I wonder if King Thorn had been to Elona (Istan) or not, because he had to know Zola before forcing her to marry him. But the only other time he had connections with Elona was when Palawa Joko and some fellow Elonians visited Kryta. Was Zola one of them, or did King Thorn went to Elona at some other time? --Mythwright (talk) 14:20, 14 May 2022 (UTC)

He had indeed gone to Elona, while a king, and this was the basis around his visits to Kamadan in GW1 during Halloween. gww:Halloween#Kamadan, Jewel of Istan Konig (talk) 14:24, 14 May 2022 (UTC)