Talk:Hylek

I'm wondering if we should put a note about the Heket on this page, since the Hylek were once a Heket tribe... thoughts? --hnzdvn 20:54, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

WRONG! The Hylek were not part of the Heket "tribe" - Hekets are a race of toad-like creatures, Hyleks, formerly known as "Frogmen" were, as their old name implies, frog-like creatures. They are like cousins, not the same race/tribe, much like the Tyrian centaurs and the Elonian centaurs, or the Tyrian tengu and the Canthan tengu. In GW1, they are considered the same affiliation, but that is purely game mechanics. As such, the Heket should not be mentioned. (sorry if I over italicized, it's just this, like people conntecting sylvari to elves, is an overly used mishap and has begun to annoy me, like the sylvari/elf thing). -- Konig/talk 23:47, 7 May 2010 (UTC)

I thought Sylvari were based on fairies, which are from a totally different set of mythology, aren't they? o_O --Amannelle 00:00, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

They are, moreso than elves. The sylvari, and their original form the Sidhe, are based off of galic and irish folklore - elves are norse, which is what the norn are based off of. -- Konig/talk 00:16, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

Sorry, I noticed that on GWW they had Hylek listed as Hekets... thats why I mentioned it. --hnzdvn 00:40, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

That would be due to the affiliation I mentioned earlier. Just like how the shiverpeak centaur are labeled as "Shiverpeak wildlife" and not "Modniir" even though in lore their pride is the Modniir. -- Konig/talk 01:37, 8 May 2010 (UTC)

So if I play a Sylvari, I could befriend frogmen, rat people or some kind of sea creature. Ramei Arashi

Perhaps... at the moment all we know is that you will be more inclined to feel sympathetic towards them. This can perhaps make you more inclined to receive missions to help them, thereby possibly befriending them... however that is unknown at this current time. :) --Amannelle 20:23, 27 May 2010 (UTC)

I still think it's stupid not to have a universal name for frog/toadmen. I mean no other race is called different things on different continents regardless of any obvious differences. A centaur is a centaur, a human is a human, a tengu is a tengu but apparently the lowly frog and toad people are special. It would be cool if they just preferred their tribe name but there's no umbrella name at all.99.1.41.126 22:56, 9 August 2010 (UTC)

Toads are not frogs. And frogmen=hylek as both the race name as a tribe name. It's like krait and naga. Both are serpentine races, and most likely cousins akin to hekets and hyleks. -- Konig/talk 00:20, 10 August 2010 (UTC)

If you look carefully the GW1º designs, you can see that the hekets have scams, spikes and smaller eyes, while all the hylek tribes only differ on colour and have enourmous eyes. Lokheit 11:41, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

This is because they are reskins of the same models. Much like Kraits uses Bone Dragon and Saltspray Dragon models with new skins for their Arcanoss and monk. -- Konig/talk 18:05, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Newbie Question

what exactly does befriending a creature mean?does that mean you don't fight them? --♥Icyyy♥‎ 16:52, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

We haven't the foggiest.--Corsair@Yarrr 17:01, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

what?--♥Icyyy♥‎ 17:18, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

(We don't know.)-- Shew ♠♠♠ 17:32, 12 June 2010 (UTC)

lol I read 'We haven't the FROGGIEST' :P --The Holy Dragons 15:20, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Something to do with the story! yay!.. also, I believe that the aquatic race earlier mentioned is actually the Quaggan. or however that may be spelled. As for what befriending does, it gives you stuff.. like karma merchants.. and stuff.... lol.. froggiest..~ Reez 00:41, 13 October 2010 (UTC)

Thx! Captain obvious :D (watch the dates of posts) --The Holy Dragons 21:10, 12 October 2010 (UTC)

Its Major Obvious to you. (watch the dates of posts) Eive 21:33, 15 October 2010 (UTC)

Ah well, weird things can happen. -- Cyan 21:50, 32 October 2010 (UTC)

Where is this confirmed?

I heard that these guys' inclusion in GW2 was confirmed in an interview or something... anyone mind saying where? I'm very interested in the non-playable races, and am wondering if they included any more info at all on differences between the tribes or anything. Also, for the sake of clear documentation, it'd be nice to have our reference for this information linked to somewhere around here. --76.166.187.131 05:32, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Reference is the races trailer. They are fighting monsters which were later confirmed as hylek by the renders posted on ArenaNet employee websites. One of those renders is included on this page. I think they're also mentioned in the art book. So, they're in the game and I don't think a direct reference is required to show that. -- Aspectacle  06:19, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Oh, okay. So, the Ophir, Gokir, Agari and Hylek tribes are all just referenced from GW1? I need to make that trek down to Bogroot Growths... --76.166.187.131 14:13, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Interviews, PAX, GoA, etc. In GW2, what were called "Frogmen" in GW1 are now called "Hylek" - so Hylek is both the name of a race of frog-like creatures, and a tribe of those frog-like creatures. There's a lot of double-naming in Guild Wars (such as Tyria, which is the name of the continent and the world, or Cantha, which is the name of both the continent and the Empire of the Dragon). -- Konig/talk 21:26, 2 November 2010 (UTC)

Sun

I figured this isn't really a needed page but I should be the one to ask it, should the Sun be listed in the god nav (or faith nav, whatever you prefer.) - Aios 3:29, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

I would say no because they view it as divine, not as a deity, and it's not important enough to have its own page.

Unless, of course, we'd make articles on both the sun and moon and put their overall influence on cultures and whatnot. But if that's done, it should be retroactive (e.g., the articles, or at least one for the moon, made on gw1w) because we have more relevance to the moon on that wiki. -- Konig/talk 04:57, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

or we could put it on a day/night cycle page. --The Holy Dragons 06:50, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

That could work to a degree, but that screams "pure mechanics" rather than "mechanic/lore mix article" - the sun and moon are different than the cycle. -- Konig/talk 19:50, 25 March 2011 (UTC)

I'd say no, they do not worship the sun, but rather "the sun god" (god of the sun) -- Raijjn

Zintl, their sun god, *is* the sun according to the hylek. Go Forth and Multiply: The Hylek - they're one and the same in the hylek's eye. Konig 20:19, 22 October 2015 (UTC)

Race name

What's the name of the race? Since "Heket" is actually the name a tribe of these people living in Elona (mistakenly used as the race name in GW1 wiki). --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 64.131.141.176 (talk).

The race's name is Hylek. The GW1 wiki lists them as Heket due to game mechanics. From a lore perspective, the two are two separate species with a common ancestry. Angell Perez 03:35, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Technically, in GW1, the race has no name (they are simply referred to as "frogmen") - in the 250 years, the race have adapted the name of one of the major tribes - hylek.

As said by Angell Perez, the GWW isn't mistakenly using the wrong name, as they are the same mechanically (GW1 is a nice clusterfuck of confusion when it comes to separating mechanics from lore, and the GWW community is split on which way to document - sometimes documenting via lore, sometimes via mechanics, sometimes via both!). Konig/talk 17:17, 1 April 2012 (UTC)

Hylek Color Dialogue Belongs in This Article

There's an important dialogue about Hylek that I have seen people reference and ask about and it's really difficult for people to find, unless they remember which NPCs mention it. I think, therefore, it belongs in this article (as well as the other articles in that already over it, i.e. location and/or NPC articles). In particular, I know about this dialogue and I have trouble finding it — if that's true for a 'wiki expert,' imagine how much more difficult it is for the typical player.

It's pithy and informative and funny, it applies to Hylek generally. In my opinion, it not only fits the content for this article, it is well worth repeating. Accordingly, I'd like this dialogue returned to this article.

"

Epharr the Third

So, let me get this straight. These hylek are yellow, the ones to the northeast and far south are red, the hylek to the west are orange…

Winni

Right. The blue ones and the green ones are nice, the orange ones and the red ones are mean, and the yellow ones are sometimes nice and sometimes mean, depending on their mood.

Epharr the Third

I wish they were all nice and there was a purple one that sang and gave out candy.

Winni

Me too. But unfortunately, this is the real world. Not some fantasy land."

– Tennessee Ernie Ford (TEF) 17:13, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Yes, but this piece of information is already at the beggining of the page, no need to put some bit of dialogue from unimportant NPCs that gives the same results. Louise 19:25, 20 April 2015 (UTC)

Very first paragraph: "The hylek are a Tyrian frogman species. They have lately spread in increasing numbers along coasts surrounding the Sea of Sorrows, such as the Tarnished Coast, the Krytan coasts, and the coasts to the west of the Shiverpeak Mountains. Although once reclusive and xenophobic, some of the hylek tribes now welcome trade with outsiders. Other tribes, especially those that produce the deadliest toxins, are still very hostile. Their hostility can be determined by their colors - blue hylek are always friendly, green are mostly friendly, orange/yellow are mostly hostile, and red are almost always hostile. Hylek are renowned alchemists for their mastery of poisons and antidotes."

It is pointless entirely to list the same information twice. Especially when half of the information is irrelevant. Konig 20:25, 20 April 2015 (UTC)