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Hello, Eloc Jcg, and welcome to the Official Guild Wars 2 Wiki! Calor — talk 06:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

LoL. — ク Eloc 貢 06:05, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

pwned XD - Y0_ich_halt 14:45, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Calor the Welcoming :P --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!

i've welcomed many more here, even though i didn't say "welcome" :( - Y0_ich_halt 15:20, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

I'd love to see Raptors welcoming people :p. Calor — talk 19:33, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Yea, nothing says welcome like a ferocious carnivore! --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!

You're not the only bug :P -- br12 • (talk) • 20:14, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Heh eloc is a bug, i always knew that :D --Cursed Angel 20:18, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Ya...XD — ク Eloc 貢 21:56, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm just quickly saying hi, Eloc!. Btw, love your archive box! — Ebañy Salmonderiel 22:08, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Ty :) — ク Eloc 貢 23:50, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

Archive

Nice message under the archive box. Calor — talk 23:03, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Ty :) — ク Eloc 貢 23:05, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

I have a sudden desire to make sure Ryudo is properly welcomed to this wiki...before he probably knows it exists...Raptors...you on it? Or will Yo or CA have to do it, since you are starting fresh here? Killer Revan 03:30, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't want another huge temper tantrum over a welcome template again. I say if Ryudo shows up leave him alone and never talk to him. --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!

if he does show up, i'll welcome him to gw2w of course, but not with a stupid automated welcome message that implies you're a noob. - Y0_ich_halt 15:59, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Don't give him a "welcome". Give him a "hello, nice to see you here too" or something. Nothing like "welcome to gw2w, you may wanna see blah or bleh". -- br12 • (talk) • 16:08, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

I have tha desire to make him feel properly welcomed here too... --Cursed Angel 16:10, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Tell him he didn't get a welcome earlier because he doesn't have the required amount of contributions. Naw jk, do as Brains says. Calor (t) 18:10, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Y0, use your pissoff template, lol. — ク Eloc 貢 04:45, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

not gonna make one here :P - Y0_ich_halt 19:40, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Aww, you're no fun XD — ク Eloc 貢 19:41, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Temporary welcome template? -- br12 • (talk) • 20:35, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

lol o.O poke | talk 20:37, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Naw. — ク Eloc 貢 21:19, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Where he finds this... Calor (t) 00:09, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Where he finds this? — ク Eloc 貢 22:43, 24 December 2007 (UTC)

Temporary welcome template....that's crazy. Crazier yet, he shows it to you, Eloc. Welcoming sprees ftw. Calor (t) 01:17, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Ya, but I don't feel like getting in any more trouble. I've already been bitched at welcoming people here on GW2W before I even did it! XD — † Eloc † 08:35, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

See Image:Tanetris_vs_Eloc.jpg for more. Calor (t) 17:27, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

LoL, I didn't even notice nor care. — † Eloc † 21:16, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

I wonder if we can still use y0's pissoff template by {{subst:gww:user:y0_ich_halt/templates/piss-off}} or whatever its named. Calor (t) 14:51, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

I don't think they have the interwiki links up yet. — ク Eloc 貢 18:00, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

TOC

mine is prettier. :P - Y0_ich_halt 16:34, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

/agree --- -- (s)talkpage 16:36, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

You made mine though XD — ク Eloc 貢 04:47, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

check history, you added the TOC yourself :P - Y0_ich_halt 12:56, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

what's a TOC? --Cursed Angel 13:05, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

table of contents. - Y0_ich_halt 13:28, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

What history am I particularely looking at? — ク Eloc 貢 18:59, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

the original one = your talk header's history over at GWW. check all diffs after the last edit i made and you will notice it was you yourself who added the toc ^^ - Y0_ich_halt 19:31, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

I was talking about the header thingy that you made me. I added the TOC into the header because it looked lame just in the middle of nowhere. — ク Eloc 貢 19:34, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

thought we were talking about TOC integration since that's the topic head ^^ and mine looks better. :P - Y0_ich_halt 19:37, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

This is GW2W

(diff) (hist) . . Nm GWW:CAT‎; 19:26 . . (+49) . . Eloc Jcg (Talk | contribs) (Redirecting to Guild Wars 2 Wiki:Categorical index)

-- br12 • (talk) • 19:36, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Ya, my bad. Forgot to change it to GW2W. — ク Eloc 貢 19:38, 23 December 2007 (UTC)

Welcome

{{subst:User:Gaile Gray}}

Welcome to the Guild Wars 2 Wiki! We're really excited to have this wiki up and running, and hope that everyone will join in!

I will be making myself at home here over time by doing a little page decorating, reading your comments on the talk pages, and so forth. :) - Y0_ich_halt 18:43, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Copyviolation, Y0! You have to add something like "by Gaile" to that text :P poke | talk 18:45, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

pleh :P - Y0_ich_halt 18:47, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

This made me lol. Anyway, I'm off to watch the Doctor Who Christmas special now, byee :D -- br12 • (talk) • 18:49, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Copyviolation? It's the same wiki :P — † Eloc † 21:12, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

btw, does my sig icon appear as the new one (circle with yellow spaces and red dot in its center) or the old one (red sqaure with circle with yellow spaces)? - Y0_ich_halt 21:39, 25 December 2007 (UTC)

Old. — † Eloc † 01:54, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

stupid cache bug. - Y0_ich_halt 02:04, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Old > new imo. I saw the new one, it was pleh. Calor (t) 02:48, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Naw, new one is better. — † Eloc † 04:03, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

eloc turn those crosses upside down --Cursed Angel 12:37, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

/agree --- -- (s)talkpage 12:43, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

old is prettier concerning colors, but new one has nicer shape. and /disagree with CA - Y0_ich_halt 16:32, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Agree x2 with y0. Calor (t) 18:06, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Cursed Angel, I don't think there is an actual symbol on a keyboard which can make upside down crosses. — ク Eloc 貢 22:02, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

you could stay neutral with this: ┿ - Y0_ich_halt 22:42, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

I only see an empty square. Coran Ironclaw 22:51, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

I see a symbol that looks like a + sign, but bigger. — ク Eloc 貢 23:02, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Me too. A bold horizontal line and a thin vertical line through the middle and it's the height of the text line. Calor (t) 23:12, 26 December 2007 (UTC)

Coran, you don't have language packs installed on your computer. — ク Eloc 貢 02:59, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

Probably not. Coran Ironclaw 06:18, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

where can i get languish packs? ive never seen any of your icons except the cross and the one that looked like a nazi icon.. --Cursed Angel 14:20, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

I wanna languish, too. Maximum security, cell block D. And I have no idea where to get them. Calor (t) 15:37, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

(reset) Probably here Coran Ironclaw 17:15, 27 December 2007 (UTC)

No, you need to enable this in the region-settings in Windows XP (Vista I think automatically supports Unicode & Asiatic languages) poke | talk 12:11, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh, the windows update was the place where I obtained it long time ago on my win 98, =p Coran Ironclaw 19:37, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Your Stance on Entropy's Account

I don't think arguing for Raptors to keep the account name on the merit that it is his is worth having. Had someone innocently chosen Entropy I could see some merit but atm it's pretty clear that's not the case. I am not posting here to bully you rather suggest this is a fight not worth having. You could easily become an admin on this site if you didn't take stances like this and picked which issues to get involved with more carefully (I am only referring specifically to the Entropy case and no other examples). 58.110.142.135 09:02, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

I'm fairly certain that at least a pretense of caring about policy is necessary to sysophood. --Edru/QQ 09:04, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

That was unnecessary and seems antagonistic to me. I was trying to encourage Eloc to reconsider how he approaches some issues on the wiki and all you've done is troll and try to antagonise him. 58.110.142.135 09:17, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Calling others' posts unnecessary seems... odd, coming from you. -Auron 09:18, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

No, actually, my intent was to inform you about Eloc's "tendencies" just as I would if anyone actually made an RfA for him. --Edru/QQ 09:19, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

GJ trolling and stalking my posts Auron, people have been banned for harassment like that in the past, even under GWW policies. Edru you are misinformed because Eloc has had an RFA. This is Eloc's talk page and this no longer concerns Eloc so I'm done here. 58.110.142.135 09:30, 29 December 2007 (UTC)

Too bad there aren't any polices on GW2W. Get with the program. —ǥrɩɳsɧƴƿıę 06:15, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

As far as this Wiki is concerned, there are no breaches of policy... at least right up until you annoy an Admin enough to get banned. *Defiant Elements* +talk 06:17, 30 December 2007 (UTC)

For now... That problem has to be fixed a wee little bit. De-san's comment is true for the moment, though. ‽-(eronth) I give up 00:29, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

I wasn't trolling you. I was merely thinking aloud; I didn't think it was in your nature to call other's posts unnecessary. I was evidently wrong. -Auron 10:19, 31 December 2007 (UTC)

Ryudo

What on earth do you call this? After what happened on GWW, do you have some sort of deathwish? I am aware that I don't have the power to block users, but it can safely be said that if you want to remain a part of this wiki, you are seriously going to have to get your act together. --Santax (talk · contribs) 23:55, 1 January 2008 (UTC)

I agree with Santax. That 'contribution' is in my opinion just trolling. --  (CoRrRan / talk) 00:02, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

LoL. It was actually pretty funny & I'm suprised no one did it before me actually. Also, does it really matter? I violated no policy & he has never even made any contributions here. — ク Eloc 貢 01:03, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Can you stop removing people's comments from talk pages? It's rude and makes you look like an idiot. —̵SEERINFLOOMES 01:11, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

There's no policy against it. I've seen Sysops do it. What give them that right that I cant? — ク Eloc 貢 01:25, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Huh! There is no anti-revert policy! Just archive it Eloc.. Seering Floomes is totally right. poke | talk 01:37, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Naw, I would like to remove this and what I said at Ryudos talk page before Ryudo comes and starts being a total bitch which will only lead to a personal attack on him which would result in a ban. — ク Eloc 貢 03:07, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Removal of posts

Eloc, despite the fact that there are no policies yet, you shouldn't go removing comments from talk pages, especially those that aren't yours. I reverted your edit to Ryudo's talk page. If Ryudo comes and doesn't like it, so be it, let him junk it. That's his decision to make, not yours. Also, I strongly disagree with removing the two sections on this page. Both of those can be valuable lessons to the community, and show a record of some events on the wiki. Calor (t) 03:30, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

As for the first one about my stance on Entropy account, I left that one alone and that shouldn't be on my talk page. As for the Ryudo one, let me remove it before he fucking bitches at all of us for no big deal. — ク Eloc 貢 06:11, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Learn

from your mistakes. —̵SEERINFLOOMES 07:12, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Current issues

As you seem to were unable to archive the topics on this page I did it for you. You should know that you can never remove anything on the wiki without leaving a history, so what you do can never be undone. The only thing you can do is accepting your mistakes and trying to improve.
Even if we don't have any policy out yet, you should not remove any comments from talk pages. Neither from your talk page nor from another talk page. You said in one of your summaries on Ryudo's talk page "Please leave it off before he bitches at all of us for no reason what-so-ever". You should think about that because you started that whole issue. You started it on gww and saw his reactions but you made it even worst by trolling on his gw2w page again.
See this comment as a warning, stop that childish behaviour and calm down. You should maybe think about doing a wiki-pause, it helped a lot people to calm down in the past. poke | talk 12:02, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

...uh, eloc? what the heck is up with you? - Y0_ich_halt 20:00, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Too long without a break? Lord Belar 20:01, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

I realize that you can never permanently remove comments without leaving a history, but I'm allowed to here. There's nothing forbidding it and I've seen Sysops do it. So if Sysops can do it, why can't I? — ク Eloc 貢 22:48, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Then there is also nothing to prevent us from reverting you.. poke | talk 22:56, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Ya, I know. — ク Eloc 貢 22:56, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

yehaw, revert war... - Y0_ich_halt 22:57, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

btw, i meant i thought you'd understand ryudo doesn't know what sarcasm is, looking at his reaction to my welcome. - Y0_ich_halt 22:59, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

U CN RMOV EVRYTNHIGN S DER R NO POLCY SO WY R U BITCHIGN PLX KNCK IT OF KK?? --GL4S AR00WS 23:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Well I thought by now Ryudo would have grown up. — ク Eloc 貢 01:09, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Grow up Eloc. —̵SEERINFLOOMES 01:12, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Eloc, that was funny enough that I actually laughed out loud. Ghellam 01:15, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Eloc, the irony of you saying Ryudo should grow up is amazing. Where exactly have you seen sysops removing content? And regardless, they can do it because they're sysops. You're a troll. Take a break before it's forced upon you, imo. Armond 01:21, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Heh, Tanaric got to it first. Armond 01:21, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

User talk:Tanetris. That's where he saw it. Check the first and second edit difference. Calor (t) 01:38, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

That's just more of Eloc being a dick. Completely understandable. Armond 01:42, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

There's a huge difference between clearing your own talk page and altering policy proposal talk pages, even ones in userspace. —Tanaric 02:16, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Armond, didn't Tanaric ask you to be away from Eloc's? Coran Ironclaw 06:33, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Removing comments

Stop. There may not be a policy against it yet, but you can still be banned. Lord Belar 01:15, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

It turns out that Belar's right. See you in a week, Eloc. —Tanaric 01:20, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Eloc, I've unblocked per your request on IRC, but don't delete any more content, anywhere. —Tanaric 07:37, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

your textbook

what time's it from? o.O - Y0_ich_halt 16:35, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

what year i meant. - Y0_ich_halt 16:40, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

1987, lol. — ク Eloc 貢 17:03, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

pleh, our history helper is from 1982 :P always funny when the text mentions "current affairs"... - Y0_ich_halt 17:11, 9 January 2008 (UTC)

Notice

you ok again? - Y0_ich_halt 19:17, 20 January 2008 (UTC)

Fuck if I know. Just decided to take it down is all. — ク Eloc 貢 00:25, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

ok XD - Y0_ich_halt 21:21, 21 January 2008 (UTC)

~hate~ ~pity~--Ryudo 15:58, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

o.O - Y0_ich_halt 17:12, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

explain moar plz? - Y0_ich_halt 17:20, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

My talk is moar than enough, methinks. But I'm done with this now.--Ryudo 18:51, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

You need to...

grow up. kthnxbai--MP47 (Talk) (Contr.) 21:22, 23 January 2008 (UTC)

Maybe it's not my place but, "kthnxbai" is a bit childish.--Darksyde Never Again 22:20, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

and marco isnt the right person to tell others to grow up.... --Cursed Angel 23:54, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Kthnxbai gets the point across. Eloc understands. Marco is perfectly mature, as we've seen him work efficiently on GWiki. And CA, you aren't exactly the right person to patrol who's out of line with their comments ;( Calor 00:24, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

lol. — ク Eloc 貢 05:59, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

Hey there

My brother left the guild the last time he went on, and I was wondering if I could get a re-invite. IGN Ixl Snow Ixl. Idk when ill be on though; gw keep phailing miserabley.--Snow (talk) 03:06, 6 February 2008 (UTC)

Sure, I'll invite you first time I get a chance. If I forget and you see me online, just PM me to remind me :P — ク Eloc 貢 17:02, 7 February 2008 (UTC)

Doesn't it look pretty?

Your pretty has been deleted by Tanaric. =( User_talk:Tanaric#Eloc.27s_marijuana_image -- Kai Nui 14:46, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Thanks for telling me. — ク Eloc 貢 17:00, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Sorry Eloc, I should have notified you. —Tanaric 16:10, 13 February 2008 (UTC)

The debate on this topic has yet to be resolved. Please do not continue to upload this image until it does. If it turns out that this type of image is allowed, then by all means, re-upload it. As of right now, all it is causing is more disruption. You have always wanted to become an admin, you should respect the debate in progress and hold anymore attempts to upload the picture until then. It will be deleted once again. — Gares 12:39, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

I placed a delete tag on it the 3rd time incase you weren't aware Gares, so you're a bit behind on your warnings ;P — ク Eloc 貢 23:49, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

You learned to settle down about the continuous uploading of the image. Good. Regardless, my reinforcement of your clarity does anyone no harm. — Gares 13:31, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Hello

I need to be told what to do, CA sent me here with a welcome template. Nuclear 7 20:27, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

What do you want to know/do here is the question. Since Guild Wars 2 isn't out, there's not much to do here besides randomly chat with people. — ク Eloc 貢 23:48, 14 February 2008 (UTC)

<insertrandomspam> Lord Belar 00:22, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

So, I may spam people's pages for laffs? mmkay.. Nuclear 7 11:41, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

You'd make yourself more popular around here if you cut the random spam ... --Xeeron 14:18, 15 February 2008 (UTC)

Or you could try and win by playing who can spam the most. Either works. — ク Eloc 貢 23:03, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

lol, i'm doing hardly anything and i'm still #16 there. - Y0_ich_halt 23:22, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

That doesn't mean much, {{Welcome}} is above Gaile. :P Lord Belar 23:25, 16 February 2008 (UTC)

Gaile only posts in her userspace, for the most part. Calor 01:43, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Wow, I leave wiki for a few weeks, and when I come back I'm still in the top 5? Neat. (No, I don't count pages that aren't user pages, so I'm ignoring the two talk page links above me.) -- Armond Warblade 07:04, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

Cheating way to put yourself in the top 5 ;). Anyways, Armond, just comment on every page you see (without saying Hai2u *cough*Belar*cough*), and you'll legitimately be in the top 5. Calor 17:13, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

That was only on twenty or so. :P Lord Belar 18:47, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

About fifty. Calor 18:48, 17 February 2008 (UTC)

I don't hai2u... Much, at least. Regardless, I'm in third now, and there's no way I'm getting above you, Calor, so... -- Armond Warblade 02:14, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

I remember a time when Y0 was beating me here. Now I don't do anything and I'm still in top 10 and beating Y0 :D — ク Eloc 貢 04:22, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

you check this daily? i don't even visit here that much... - Y0_ich_halt 16:08, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

lol, even copyvio has more links than us o.o - Y0_ich_halt 16:13, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Pathetic. Calor 17:23, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Funny coming from you Calor, lol — ク Eloc 貢 17:02, 20 February 2008 (UTC)

Heh

You reverted Ninja Dragon's edit to GW2W Policy saying that there was no need to change it... but once he'd changed it, was there a need to change it back? Not that editing takes any time whatsoever... but it just seemed kinda funny. *Defiant Elements* +talk 03:41, 19 February 2008 (UTC)

Dismember

u mean trail of the dead? or a song from their latest album? which i dont have or know any songs of :/ --Cursed Angel 01:31, 27 February 2008 (UTC)

Oops, my bad. It was supposed to be Trail of the Dead, but I got preocupied and the next song on my song list was Feel the Darkness. — ク Eloc 貢 04:04, 1 March 2008 (UTC)

._.

>.<--Snow (talk) 02:51, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

Huh? — ク Eloc 貢 17:00, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

I second that motion. -- pling | ggggg 18:05, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

i want icecream :( --Cursed Angel 18:26, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

@_@......... --ShadowP 20:23, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

ಠ_ಠ - Y0_ich_halt 21:58, 3 March 2008 (UTC)

64.178.154.131

What was the point of making the talk and userpage then putting them up for deletion? Calor 00:04, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Brains disagreed with it on IRC, so rather than argue with him about it, I just marked them for deletion. — ク Eloc 貢 09:15, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

It's not so much that I disagreed, but that most people on the GWW disagreed and deleted the redirect there. I thought doing it here just after that discussion was disagreeable. -- pling | ggggg 14:34, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

Alright, well I marked it for deletion anyways, so it's all good, right? — ク Eloc 貢 17:40, 21 March 2008 (UTC)

GTFO

as per GW2W:GTFO i hereby tell you to GTFO - Y0_ich_halt 18:46, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

GOD DAMNIT. You totally guessed what I was going to do with you damn hidden message. — ク Eloc 貢 19:45, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

mwahaha :D - Y0_ich_halt 21:24, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

i'm bored. let's do ab or something together sometime... - Y0_ich_halt 21:33, 11 April 2008 (UTC)

For sure. Just PM me whenever we're both on at the same time and I'll come and AB with you. — ク Eloc 貢 06:47, 12 April 2008 (UTC)

Hi

Ooh, hi. I'm Ninjas In The Sky, I'm gonna make a new registration so ppl recognise me. Welcome me or die. Bbqs Are Illegal 08:08, 18 June 2008 (UTC)

Done. — ク Eloc 貢 03:36, 19 June 2008 (UTC)

Computer

Tell me when you've found a machine. I need one too. - Y0_ich_halt 12:43, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Build one :o It's cheaper and much more educational, and there's a ton of guides out there on how to choose parts (along with the actual setting up of parts). Work blocks the site for me, but I know mmo-champ just did a "setup of the month" with four "sets" by cost and tips for what you can and can't mix together. -- Armond Warblade 21:09, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

Done many times and I've come to the conclusion it's usually easier to buy a full system and swap the parts you don't like. (That way sometimes you can even blame them and return it if you break it lol). Thanks for the link though, I'll keep it for the future. At the moment I need a laptop since I move houses too much and don't have a car able to transport a desktop. - Y0_ich_halt 18:46, 4 September 2012 (UTC)