Talk:Toxic Seedling

Seems like these can also "drop" from mobs, I was fighting a King-sized candy elemental in Gendarran Fields which spawned with Toxic Corruption on it and after its death a seedling spawned on the ground. --Sialor (talk) 22:43, 31 October 2013 (UTC)

Yes. Every enemy that has Toxic Corruption will drop a seedling. --Musha 20:27, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Single pristine node per group

diff: “multiple nodes in a group may yield pristines, and a pristine node may still yield mushed with multiple harvests” – User:Musha

Do you have any evidence on that? Because based on my experience this is absolutely not true. My edit before was triggered when I today gathered a single node 4 times and it always gave me a pristine samples, while the one right next to it gave me 3 mushed samples. Also I have never seen two seedlings in a single group give me pristine samples, and also never seen a group without a seedling that gives a pristine sample. In my experience, there was always only a single seedling that gives a pristine sample; and even after respawning after a few hours, it was the same seedling that gave the pristine sample. poke | talk 22:58, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Well, I have no screenshots to show you, but, while I have had similar experiences as you, where most multiple gathers on a pristine node will give me multiple pristines, I have also had a few experiences where I gather a node, let's say 4 times, and the first 3 yield a pristine, but the 4th gives a mushed. In contrast, multiple gathers on a node that provides mushed spores, sometimes those will give me a pristine, even after I gather a pristine from a different node in the same group. However, it is apparent that the chances of getting another pristine on a multiple gather from a node that provides a pristine is much higher. Also, it does seem that there is at least 1 guaranteed pristine in every grouping. --Musha 23:28, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

Hmm, interesting. Thanks for your insight. I guess I’ll run around those a bit more then to gather some more data :) poke | talk 23:50, 1 November 2013 (UTC)

It looks like my observation of a guaranteed pristine per grouping may be inaccurate... I went through 2 groupings of seedlings without getting a single pristine. --Musha 02:57, 2 November 2013 (UTC)

I've been through grouping after grouping and have not had results like I've observed before. I'm beginning to suspect that my previous observations have been incorrect. It does appear that there is 1 node in every grouping that will always yield a pristine and this node never changes; it is always the same node when the grouping respawns. Therefore, when this node is gathered multiple times it will still always yield a pristine. Every other node in the grouping appears to always yield a mushed. --Musha 06:45, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

No, you were right before, Musha. You will get at least 1 pristine spore from each group, but there is a rare chance (maybe 1 in 8) for the other nodes to also produce a pristine spore. I've received 2 somewhat often, and 3 a couple times. —Dr Ishmael 13:21, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

I still haven’t encountered that situation once… poke | talk 17:11, 4 November 2013 (UTC)

Dr Ishmael, are you sure the extra pristines you got weren't just extra gathers from the same node? --Musha 01:51, 5 November 2013 (UTC)

I’ve restored the part now. After a month of more investigation on the behavior, I no longer have any doubts that the original observation is indeed correct. poke | talk 01:26, 29 November 2013 (UTC)

I have received 3 Pristines from a single group of 4 nodes (just last week, in fact). I think we always get at LEAST one per group, but I guarantee you can get more. Daddicus (talk) 00:38, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

Well, the interesting part would be if those four all came from the same seedling or not. Of course it’s possible to get more than once; my record is 6 (again from a single seedling, the others gave none). poke | talk 06:45, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

It's possible that using a better sickle, like say a Black Lion one, adds a chance to get pristines from "mush" seedlings. Most people wouldn't run around with those, though, or certainly not waste them on something you can use a Copper Sickle for. Vili 点 08:37, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

My record is 13 from one of those toxic group event things. Right after I typed my last paragraph, I got 2 from a grouping of 5. They were from different seedlings, though. I don't remember if the 3 from 4 was 3 different ones or not. But, I've been kind of keeping track, and from the last post until now, I have not received a double from a single seedling (other than those special ones, of course).

Also, I have tried to always use copper implements (I'm a cheapskate min/maxer), but I wasn't keeping track, so they may have been with better implements. Daddicus (talk) 04:58, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Musha just added that he got 7 from a single node; does this refer to getting seven pristines in one gathering, or seven different gatherings? Because if it's the latter, that's not new, just very good luck. Vili 点 16:12, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

@Vili - It means 1 gather gave me 7 spores, not 7 gathers of 1 spore each. At another node farm I was able to gather the pristine node 3 times and got 1, 1, and 5 spores from the 3 respective gathers. With the post-Nightmare content, this seems to be a change as I never got more than 1 spore with a single gather before. --Musha 21:43, 12 December 2013 (UTC)

Group size

I don't think it's true that they "always" spawn in groups of five, unless this refers to them being in a very wide area. There have been plenty of times where I'll find a group of seedlings and it won't be 5. If it's a single seedling, then it came from something with Toxic Corruption. But 2, 3, 4, or 6+ certainly aren't due to that...or the odds are extremely small, anyway.

Even for single seedlings, though, some of them seem to (I don't specifically check) spawn in the same spot again and again, near areas where I don't recall there being any Veterans or Champions. For example, way way out in the water in places like Bloodtide Coast, where there's basically nothing. I know large underwater areas usually have a roaming boss, but it shouldn't die in the same spot every time. Vili 点 08:37, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

To your first point: I fixed it to say "four or five", I don't think I've ever seen three or six. Sometimes two clusters can spawn very close to each other, I've seen this in cultivated locations like Beetletun Farms or the fields against the south wall of Nebo Terrace. —Dr Ishmael 13:29, 4 December 2013 (UTC)

I've seen a group of 3, but only once. It could have been that I just didn't see the 4th. But, I'll keep watch from now on.

I do believe that you always get at least 5 harvestings from any cluster, but again, I've not kept careful track. Daddicus (talk) 05:01, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

I think I might have mistaken a group of three and a group of two as a (very spread out) group of five. They're definitely not always right next to each other, so it looks like a separate clump.

Sometimes spawn locations overlap, which results in a giant cluster of at least 6. But it's probably correct that 4-5 is the "base" number. Vili 点 05:11, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

Two more observations: I just got a group of 4 that only allowed 4 harvestings, so that's busted. I also (just before that) had a single node in a group give me 2 pristines. Daddicus (talk) 15:06, 7 December 2013 (UTC)

I just got 4 pristines from 1 node in a group of 4. The other 3 nodes yielded mushies. Daddicus (talk) 03:31, 9 December 2013 (UTC)

Feedback 2016/03/01

Shouldn't there be some kinda mention on this page indicating that Tower of Nightmares is a past event and node availability is DRASTICALLY smaller than the number of zones listed? The only place that has actual spores to my knowledge is Kessex, with Offshoots (that spawn as pore on kill) are only active in Brisban, Kessex and Gendarran. --174.97.215.128 21:32, 1 March 2016 (UTC)

That sounds correct to me, so I've altered the article a bit to reflect the current state of the game. -Chieftain Alex 10:36, 2 March 2016 (UTC)

How many clusters in one instance of Kessex Hills?

Exactly how many groups of toxic seedlings will there be per day in the map? --138.75.144.128 18:40, 27 May 2016 (UTC)

I haven't done much spore farming, but the highest amount I've found is six. - J.P.Talk 01:34, 1 July 2017 (UTC)

"waste of sickle charge"

Since even a Mithril sickle costs around 3 copper per use, getting a 17 copper trophy is hardly a waste of sickle charge, so I removed that note. Roland of Gilead talk 14:23, 11 July 2017 (UTC)

Feedback 2022/08/31

Are the 6 nodes per instance including or excluding those that spawn only after toxic offshoot events?