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Zinn and the Creation of Rata Novus[edit]

We met the Asura Zinn during War in Kryta, which took place during the Beyond events, in 1079 AE. It's after that, that Zinn was exiled from the Asuran Community and left off to create Rata Novus. So we should be able to pin-down the creation of Rata Novus within those years, no?

Meaning that Rata Novus lasted less than a century =/ --Edgar.Doiron (talk) 14:47, 10 November 2015 (UTC)

Unfortunately, our "happened within these years" gap is very large. We know that asura can live up to 120 years but we don't know Zinn's age so we can't even narrow it down to a case of "between 1080 AE and <(120 - (Zinn's Birthyear - 1080)) + 1080> AE". However, we also know they were well established by the time they fell and by all indication, when they allied with the Exalted (which given they came to be around the time the Zephyrites did would point to them building Tarir and hibernating within 50 years after GW1 - little later than when the dwarves fully turned to stone at the latest). So we can reduce it down to just "between 1080 AE and 1130 AE, most likely on the earlier side of the spectrum" but that's not efficient to denote on the timeline article. Konig 22:17, 10 November 2015 (UTC)


When will the timeline be updated in the game The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) at 13:52, 7 June 2016‎ (UTC).
I hope they update the timeline soon for the living world . Now that mordremoth gas been dealt with. The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) at 18:00, 7 June 2016‎ (UTC).

There is no timeline in the game. The closest thing is the year marking on the story journal - so we won't get more of that until LW season 3. Konig 22:33, 7 June 2016 (UTC)

Feedback 2016/07/19[edit]

The timeline states Southsun Cove was "discovered", yet I have found no evidence that it was not known about beforehand, with the obvious exception of it not appearing on maps. The only reference to a discovery is that it was included in the "Lost Shores" patch. I find it difficult to believe an island of this size would not have been discovered in the ~100 years since Zhaitan's rise or even prior to that, assuming it did not emerge over the years (given the unique wildlife here, one could assume it has existed for quite some time, being more than 100 years.)-- 14:03, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

The entire plot (or pre-plot) was about how Canach and a team was sent out to explore the island and document it. The reason we had to track Canach down during The Lost Shores was because no one but him (and what little remained of his team) knew where to find Southsun Cove. The western (and larger) island is volcanic, so it's actually relatively new, where it isn't covered in karka webbing, and Zhaitan has prevented a lot of sea faring. Furthermore, not all maps are scaled to size - Southsun might be, but all other maps definitely aren't. I think we're meant to believe there's far more open water than we see on the world map. Konig 16:56, 18 July 2016 (UTC)

Tarir in the timeline[edit]

In the timeline it is stated, that Tarir was built by the Forgotten and Exgalted in 1228 AE. That is a mere 100 years from the present. In the article about Tarir, it is stated, that it is an "ancient city, built centuries ago". That does not fit each other. 09:42, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

This happens when I don't double-check others. Tarir was built about 200 years prior to the current date in-game. I will note that the original lore we got on Tarir did imply that it was built even before GW1, before we knew where it was or the more exact lore of the Exalted. But it was created around the forming of the Zephyrites, and it was from the Zephyrites that the Exalted were chosen from - the Zephyrites formed ~200 years prior, in the last days of the dwarves as the successors of the Brotherhood of the Dragon. Konig (talk) 16:09, 7 December 2016 (UTC)

Highlighting the years in which the games take place.[edit]

Is is possible to highlight the table rows the represent the years in which GW1 and GW2 take place? I think that would be useful, especially for GW1. ~ Fishrock (talk) 22:51, 30 September 2018 (UTC)

I can get it for GW1, but for all the years that GW2 takes place would just be highlighting the top 6 rows for GW2. And without a doubt, at least a few more in the future. Eventually it'd get to the point where the first screen's height's worth is highlighted. Which seems counter to the point. Konig (talk) 23:23, 30 September 2018 (UTC)


Should we add a spoiler warning at the top or is it already obvious enough that it'll have spoilers? ~~Trevor95251 13:02, 1 October 2018 (UTC)

Present day redux[edit]

Queen Jennah was crowned in 1316. TiffanySmith.8216 (talk) 22:44, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

I'm going to take the sylvari character creation "my race awakened twenty-five years ago" in-game statement as when the sylvari were born. Present year is 1325, the Firstborn were born in 1300. It makes the most sense given the years for other things - 1326 for when Scarlet's terrorizing started, Mordremoth awoke in 1327, defeated Mordremoth in 1328... There's no room for the Pact and killing Zhaitan to have taken place any later than 1325. Zojja says "I blamed you for many years, myself" in the Arah dungeon, and we know that started in 1320. "Many years" makes sense - that occurs near the end of 1325, making six years since Destiny's Edge broke up, which fits with the "many years" description. I never understood why the timelines all say the sylvari awoke in 1302 - that makes absolutely no sense. TiffanySmith.8216 (talk) 22:41, 21 October 2018 (UTC)

Uh, TiffanySmith, you're responding to comments from 2012/2013 :P --Imry 22:46, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
Fixed: made their comment a new section and archived the old stuff to avoid further confusion. - Doodleplex 23:07, 21 October 2018 (UTC)
To clarify for TiffanySmith: Anet LOVES rounding their years. The Firstborn was born in 1302 AE. The whole "the first sylvari were born 25 years ago" from opening sylvari cinematic is just Anet rounding because 1) it flows better than "my race awakened twenty-three years ago" and 2) originally Anet was planning to have a true living world where the personal story "always happened now" while the living world content happened in a specific order - which meant they had to be super ambiguous about the Pact and the Commander status; this was too much of a hassle and too limiting in plot so they gave it up when reaching the end of Season 1 (this is half of why there's practically zero reference to the Pact in S1). The timelines state the sylvari were born in 1302 AE because that's what the novel timelines list it as, and I do believe there's a couple NPC dialogues in the game citing 1302 AE as well.
Also, about Zhaitan's death later than 1325 AE: Conspiracy of Dunces marks Zhaitan's death during spring 1326 AE, just "a few days" before 60 Zephyr (a direct, proper, translation from Gregorian would mean ~May 15th since the Mouvelian calendar begins on the Spring Equinox (aka March 20th-22nd depending on year for Gregorian calendar). Konig (talk) 23:53, 21 October 2018 (UTC)