Talk:Tequatl the Sunless

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IGN says its a dragon boss, I think its a huge Fleshreaver! ---- The preceding unsigned comment was added by Draaky (talkcontribs).

Yeah, except that Regina made the correlation on Twitter. Venom20 User Venom20-icon-0602-sm-black.png 15:28, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
That name reminds me of the Quetzal tengu from gw1, that and sparkfly fen reminds me of the swamp. I'll freak out if it's a fleshreaver entirely composed of tengus into dragon form.Headache 16:38, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
That would be terrifying. In any case, hopefully they'll announce soon whether it's Zhaitan's new champion. From how the Shatterer event works, it seems similar enough to be true. 69.121.219.6 19:47, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Personally, the name reminds me of a few Aztec deities. -User Eive Windgrace Harbinger of the Deceiver.png 22:53, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Quetzal were based off of the aztec Quetzalcoatl, so I'm pretty much in agreementHeadache 23:11, 17 August 2011 (UTC)
Actualy the Quetzal were probably based on the Quetzal , I think.--98.88.232.208 11:05, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Concept Art[edit]

Anyone know if there is one? Da Mystic Reaper 17:06, 23 August 2011 (UTC)

Meaning of the Word[edit]

Technically, "Tequatl" has no meaning I can find though it vaguely resembles Nahuatl word form. There are two Nahuatl words it resembles. The closest sounding is "Tequitl" meaning "mission", "function", or "obligation". The base word, "Tequa-" or "Tecua-" depending on how it is used, it can have several related meanings. By itself it is a verb meaning "to eat" or "to bite". It can be "Tecuani" meaning "Biter", "Wild Animal", or "Poisonous". More specifically, the word seems to refer to something that bites (or eats) people indicating it is not tame. A simmilar word, "tecualani" also means "disgusting" or "irritating". Needless to say, I think, if anything, the devs had "Tecua" in mind when they thought this name up. "-tl" is a common suffix in Nahuatl often used to indicate a singular noun. In the case of "tecua-", "-ni" was the proper suffix, but I think Anet went with "-tl" because it was more recognizably Nahuatl. Also, "atl" means "water" which may have some significance considering the beast dwells in the sea. --Shai Halud 16:27, 17 September 2011 (UTC)

In the PAX Prime 2011 Guild Wars 2 Panel (at 54:16), Jeff Grubb said the name means "the one in darkness" in hylek. should that be added to trivia? Redd 03:18, 4 July 2012 (UTC)
It's lore, not trivia, so it should go into the first paragraph like most lore-on-NPCs/locations/other articles. Konig/talk 03:22, 4 July 2012 (UTC)


Writing this here because it's in a similar vein, though about the epithet "the Sunless". It's more food for thought than anything. The page directly translates "sunless" as "Risen" (because the Hylek refer to the Risen as Sunless), but it's likely a broader term than that. If the Hylek divine entity is the sun, then calling something "sunless" is similar to calling something "damned" or "cursed". Given Tequatl's name as discussed above and on the page means "the one in darkness", calling him "Sunless" (a redundancy) basically emphasizes just how accursed Tequatl is to the Hylek (i.e. 'twice cursed', though I mean that as a concept, not as a translation).99.244.230.178 03:49, 19 July 2014 (UTC)

I was having similar thoughts. "Sunless" as an adjective seems like a term the Hylek would have had prior to ever meeting the Risen because their deity is the sun. My guess is they'd have various terms with different connotations about level of cursed-ness (i.e. in English some mild forms of 'cursed' are 'unfortunate' 'unlucky' 'ill-fated' etc. and then more severe forms 'blighted' 'doomed' 'damned', etc.) "THE sunless" (for the Risen) indicates a more specific evil, like "the damned" would. That Tequatl is given a proper name, though its meaning is redundant, recognizes *the concept* that it's an especially dangerous and significant evil within a group of creatures already considered a significant evil. Hard to express that in a wiki-friendly kind of way (and is ultimately kind of moot), but still as you said, food for thought. 99.227.216.53 20:45, 12 December 2017 (UTC)

Size of the Champs and Therfore Tequatl[edit]

I was wondering with the size of these dragon Champs, why are they so much bigger then Glint a now 3250 year old dragon. The scale of glint i think is about 1 human to 0.5-1 in hight to her leg, whilst the Champs such as Tequatl have been called small dragons. I hope this is read and explained by the Lawmaster himself, but if not your thoughts...

Wasn't Glint inside a grain of sand? With the humans shrunk down to fit in. I would have thought that would make pretty much any notion of scale irrelevant. (I could be wrong about the grain of sand thing, I remember hearing a dev talk about it in an interview) Zomby138 12:56, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Nah, one of the books explained that her place was just hidden by illusion, and Chosen were all made to think it was inside a grain of sand. Or something to that effect. I don't think that there is any lore-wise difference between their sizes, only the difference in the graphical resources at the GW1 team's disposal when the game was made. Alternatively, keep in mind that the new enemies can't move, but Glint could; imagine Glint as large as one of the new champions, moving as normal. Melee characters wouldn't have seen anything until the battle was over.. --ஸ Kyoshi User Kyoshi sig2.png 15:36, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
Glint's claw was the size of an asura in EoD. I think they gave other measurements but I don't recall atm. Scale in GW1 is terrible, as most doorways were smaller than the average/middle PC and NPC height. Konig/talk 16:11, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
GW1 scale really is poor. Some of the staircases are absolutely HUGE. 82.19.157.185 17:37, 7 October 2011 (UTC)
The bottom step of some of the Arborstone staircases are taller than an average character. And yet you just teleport up them in one step.  :D 128.113.145.166 01:21, 2 November 2011 (UTC)

Something that bothers me[edit]

Now, before I say anything, I'm not a lore buff. What bothers me, fleshreavers were breed by Rragar, which was closer to where Kralk. was. Does that mean that when he died, the fleshreavers were somehow spread throughout the world? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Headache (talkcontribs).

When the master dies, mindlessness ensues. And then zombie apocalypse. Also, don't forget to sign your comments. - Infinite - talk 20:48, 14 October 2011 (UTC)
And fleshreavers are relevant to this article how? Also, they were not solely bred by Rrager - and bred is not the same as create; he merely experimented with existing things, just as he did with oozes. There were some in the Heart of the Shivered dungeon, western side if level 1. Konig/talk 06:15, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
User:Draaky started it by saying this could be a fleshreaver dragon, and this dragon has a look matching fleshreavers. so any speculation is expected. --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 06:35, 15 October 2011 (UTC)
However, if one spent less than a minute to read the article, they'd realize that's not the case (and tbh, anything undead can look like a fleshreaver. GASP!) Konig/talk 21:58, 15 October 2011 (UTC)

Schedule[edit]

Trying to determine when the dragon makes an appearance. Seems to be about every three hours. Enter the times (by timestamp in chat) when the dragon appears/dies and we can try to see if there is a pattern. Separ 04:15, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

  • Start: 2012 09 09 23:44 EDT Ended: 2012 09 09 23:52 EDT
I'm pretty sure all of the zone bosses come around every 3 hours or so. Manifold User Manifold Neptune.jpg 04:16, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

Loot?[edit]

What does it drop? 192.168.104.82 13:05, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

I don't think it drops anything, it's not a proper NPC. A big chest spawns when you complete the event, though, which has the standard chest loot, fine-rare(exotic maybe?) equipment and sometimes crests, etc. Manifold User Manifold Neptune.jpg 16:26, 14 October 2012 (UTC)

Tequatl Rising[edit]

I'm not convinced this is a Zhaitan champion. The fact that he's being reimagined after Zhaitan's defeat, and that he spawns tentacles, and his association with being "something in the water," and that all the Risen vanish right before he shows up makes me think he might be a Bubbles champion. Tekaris, 13:56 1 Sep 2013 EDT

The Risen disappearing is just Anet making sure the playing field is clear for the big event. He summons more Risen during the battle. —Dr Ishmael User Dr ishmael Diablo the chicken.png 18:32, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
I am curious about Teakettle growing in power AFTER its master's death. I do hope Arenanet explains this in the update.--Will Greyhawk (talk) 21:14, 12 September 2013 (UTC)
It's pissed about its master's death.--Relyk ~ talk < 00:37, 13 September 2013 (UTC)
Nothing says Zhaitan is indeed dead instead of being defeated. Tequatl ingame is explicitly mentioned to have been defeated before and keeps reemerging. The Vigil bought the megalaser from the asura who were operating it against Tequatl before (aka old bossfight).
"A small piece of Zhaitan, forever dead." is that Shards of Zhaitan used to say before they became currency. TheLastHobbit (talk) 21:21, 18 September 2013 (UTC)

Skill descriptions[edit]

Why change AoE to Area of Effect? If someone doesn't know what AoE stands for they can just use the link, that's the whole point of having them. :P -Somohexual (talk) 03:52, 20 September 2013 (UTC)

We can avoid acronyms when possible in articles.--Relyk ~ talk < 04:47, 20 September 2013 (UTC)


Disappointing[edit]

There are worlds that have not completed this. Ppl cant spawn close so they don't respawn. The difficult is extreme. Ppl are disappointed and not retrying any more . This reminds me of the tunnel and all the nerfing they did there. 80% of the ppl in my guild quite the game then and a huge quantity will leave because of this change. When the event is over no one will be back to do teq nice job anet.

They can just guest onto another server, you know. It's not ANet's fault your server isn't organized. Rage quitting because they can't beat something is the players' problem. ANet tests the fights before release to make sure they CAN be done without insane amounts of coordination. Like I said before, just guest onto another server if you want to beat it. --Lustre Of Havoc 06:00, 25 September 2014 (UTC)
This comment was added waaaay back in 2013, when servers had tons of trouble with defeating Teq. Many players originally raged at the difficulty of the fight, but I think everyone understands the fight mechanics enough to succeed the event, even without powerful coordination. --Ventriloquist 10:16, 25 September 2014 (UTC)

did tequatl try replace zhaitan?[edit]

Since last season is mostly about trying replacing elder dragon with its champion (whithout plan how exactly it would work, aproximetly: we kill it and champion absorb it power) and the tequal get power up after dead of zhaitan. Could be this similarity? It absorbet part of his masters power? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Naryk (talk) at 23:12, 29 December 2018 (UTC).

Yes, this got confirmed, more or less, in a lore interview with Ree Soesbee. Tequatl was - intentionally or not - gaining Zhaitan's lost magic. Konig (talk) 09:26, 30 December 2018 (UTC)