Talk:Legendary Doppelganger

Image

So, what are we going to do regarding the image for this NPC and its adds? We can't really use a random player. I have three ideas:

• We use the "create new character" icon from the character select screen or some other blanked-out "insert yourself here"-style image
• We use an image of a player standing next to the doppelganger after its taken on their appearance
• We create a "generic player character" model and use it in various places around the wiki, not just this article. (This option is a lot of work but hey, it's an option.)

--Idris (talk) 18:10, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

There kind of is a generic player character model - if you turn down one of the graphics options, most players will have its appearance, and we can just screenshot one of those. –Santax (talk · contribs) 18:22, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Excellent point! I'd forgotten about that! --Idris (talk) 18:22, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

There's actually a third option: the infobox has a setting to use no image, and in this case I think it might be the best idea to avoid people trying to upload pictures of themselves. Also I'm not 100% positive, but based on loading into pre Teq-maps, I think there are actually 3 different scaled down models based on armor type. - Do_odleplex 18:43, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Too late, I already uploaded a generic low-quality model. You're right that there's several to choose from; nine in total (humanoid, asura, and charr, then three armour classes for each), but I chose heavy-armoured humanoid, since that's the appearance the GW1 doppelganger had. I think that's a nice compromise. I also think that having a generic image up will do more to discourage people from adding images of themselves than having no image. --Idris (talk) 18:50, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

Works for me. The other question though, is don't the skills mimic the player's skills? If that's the case I don't know if we can list skills or stolen skills as they'd likely be the same as the players and the stolen skills would be the pvp class stolen skills. - Do_odleplex 19:00, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

I put the skills section up with a stub tag in case it has its own skills in addition to the mimicked skills. I think a stolen skills section would be useful either way, because not everyone knows what the pvp stolen skills are. --Idris (talk) 19:04, 13 October 2017 (UTC)

i ended up being cloned, and while most of the damage was done by others, i noticed that my own attacks affected the break bar —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.180.104.130 (talk) at 12:53, 18 November 2017‎ (UTC).

We're wrong about what skills the doppelganger copies.

I was just chosen to be targeted by the Doppelganger. I was playing a Herald wielding mace/axe and hammer, but the Doppelganger was a Renegade wielding a shortbow. It definitely wasn't copying my equipped skills/specializations. I wonder if it actually just defaults to PoF specializations, and people have been assuming it's copying them because most folks have been playing using PoF specializations? —Idris 23:34, 17 June 2018 (UTC)

I may be misremembering, but I'm pretty sure on my Reaper my copy had a greatsword. Konig (talk) 01:21, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

EDIT: TO clarify, it was a vet and elite that used greatsword, unless I'm just completely mistaken, and not the legendary version. But as far as I can tell, the four copies during the events (mini, vet, elite, and leg) all function the same more or less. Konig (talk) 01:24, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Yeah I think the less-ranked versions do function the same as the Legendary; I had a Veteran that also spawned as a Renegade. —Idris 02:47, 18 June 2018 (UTC)

Update: Just did Defeat Branded Josso Essher in the Ascension Chamber. Spotted a Tempest and a Reaper playing with me; their veteran clones wielded a sword and torch, respectively. I was still a Herald and my clone was Renegade again. Starting to look likely that doppelgangers always default to PoF professions. —Idris 13:08, 19 June 2018 (UTC)

I am playing as a Druid, and my doppelganger were always soulbeasts. Sime (talk) 21:43, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Okay, I'm going to change the article to say they're always PoF, but I'll leave the verify tags up for now, just in case there's some detail to this we're missing. —Idris 22:20, 20 June 2018 (UTC)

Race

If you guys wish to discern the race of that NPC, please do so here. - Do_odleplex 01:55, 12 February 2020 (UTC)

Feedback 2020/04/01 Race

Wouldn't the race for the legendary doppelganger be a reflection of the chosen character, so the same as <Character's Race> MystShadows (talk) 04:09, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

From a lore perspective, no, because it's a reflection not a clone. From a mechanical perspective, unlikely, as it likely is just one type of NPC who's appearance and skillset alters on the chosen candidate, so it's race wouldn't change. Konig (talk) 05:17, 1 April 2020 (UTC)

In that case, couldn't it be said his, the Doppelgangers, race is truly unknown and that it is not a stub. He has no 'real' appearance other than that of another character, and if I recall correctly there aren't any other similar bosses. Either that or maybe his race could be doppelganger? While it's not necessarily a 'race' that's been used before, it might be the best description we have for him. MystShadows (talk) 18:16, 1 April 2020 (UTC)