Guild Chat - Episode 19

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The 19th episode of Guild Chat aired on October 17, 2015. Join host Rubi Bayer and her special guests as the Guild Chat livestream joins the countdown to launch! They talk about the ESL Guild Wars 2 Pro League, see the new upcoming legendaries in action, stand behind your favorite guild hall, and find out what kind of changes are coming to the camera in Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns.
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hi guys welcome back to Guild chat this is the second time we are on the show together it is it's weird it's a little 
weird to be a guest now really yeah it's a little strange all right you can host I'm out that sounds good uh you'll have 
to update me on what we're actually doing you can't see my notes I'm sorry 
yeah you stay here by yourself and Wrangle Hue that'll go really well that's a full that's a fulltime all 
right so Pro leagues yeah all right thank you guys very 
much all right that was really good all right and stuff like this is why we're not allowed to be in here together it's 
true uh two host at the same time just doesn't work at all it's just too much I'm like take itos OPP and Josh is like 
what just what's going on so we announced Pro leagues and it was kind of a big thing so why don't you give us a 
run through of what the deal is uh yeah so uh it's been kind of a long time coming we've been working 
on I think we've been kind of laying the foundation for the past three years or so uh it's just a little under three 
years ago we had some of the first community events run uh my gosh I know right uh Kings of beta which I actually 
shout casted and uh masters of the Mist which I also show casted I'm just gonna be my ego really just starting from was 
like I did this whole thing leading up to Pro leagues and I made it happen this is all about me 
uh I'm not about very modest very mod indeed uh so anyway we had a lot of 
really great community events uh a lot of guys out there in the community trying to do a lot of stuff and uh we've been trying to carry that momentum on uh 
the past couple years uh our big Mantra with trying to push the stuff is letting the community kind of push it for us and 
kind of take things from a grassroot uh uh pers uh grassroot angle I guess yeah 
and uh so yeah we uh eventually we did our first uh world uh it's kind of like our first World tournament was the packs 
Invitational in 2013 we had uh car crash and sink yep which was oh my gosh I yeah 
yeah that was uh that was actually the first month I worked out of reading that uh really yeah it was I got hired and 
then I shout casted with chap uh that's when we had the whole uh yeah petting 
Zoom petting Zoom the petting Zoom a good times oh my gosh this is like walked up Memory Lane it is it is really 
uh it is indeed then we had uh Allstar tournament I think was the next one after that we a buch games termin of 
Glory termin of Legends we had like uh 300 teams signing up for each event yeah uh which led us into uh what was the 
next thing I guess uh the big the big thing after that was the go for cups yeah go for which is what we've uh been running for the past year or so I think 
we just had our 50th event uh last weekend or the weekend before and that was kind of like the first time that we 
started focusing on it long term and it's actually uh if you look at um I won't be showing the graph today but if 
you look at uh player participation in PVP like uh the week that we started investing uh you know in the go for cups 
it kind of shows a trend a very steep Trend actually in terms of P participation and uh engagement over the 
past year so it's actually been a great year for us trend is up is yes very 
extremely important to we started investing and just Plumbing it I uh it's actually been a great year for us um I 
know Colin on the forums uh last week or the week before talking about how PVP is actually the fastest growing segment in 
Guild Wars right now and uh yeah it's definitely there like it's it's been an amazing year for us we also had the World Tournament series events we had uh 
one in Beijing and uh Boston and we finished up last one in Cologne and uh now getting back to the the main thing 
we to talk about today is the pro league and this is really our next uh step in the evolution of what we're trying to do with guild war 2 PVP on a competitive 
level okay so what's the process of pro leagues uh so Mr Mark if you're uh there 
we have a sweet little infographic that our art team made which I'm hoping there we go wait is it blinking around I think 
it's cool uh so yeah uh the pro league is a pretty exciting thing so um Guild 
Wars 2 is Shifting to seasonal poly in a competitive sense um if you guys have been following Heart Of Thorns at all 
you've probably seen that we are going to be switching to uh PP leagues and Seasons meaning that we'll have 8we PVP 
Seasons where players can compete on our ladders and move up and down and gain Prestige and hopefully eventually make in the legendary Division if they're 
that good yes and our plan is to actually mirr that um with the guild Challenger League which would be kind of 
the way that teams break into pro league um and then have pro league stacked on top of the whole the whole picture so 
basically um pro league will be a swe season where uh a set number of teams it'll be eight teams per region and 
they're pre-selected with set rosters will be competing for $200,000 um and the very top teams from 
the end of the season we'll move to the season finals which will be hosted at ESL studios in either Burbank or uh 
cologne nice and then the big the big overall picture is that uh after these two seasons are up um going into the uh 
first part of next year we actually have it all culminate in our first I'll say world championship event so our first 
Standalone event for Guild Wars 2 PVP where we have the top teams from uh all the regions come in and Clash for uh our 
biggest prize pool in Gold War 2 history awesome all right so here's something that we had talked about before what if 
we get in there we get like halfway through and like Hugh decides he's sick of how bad I am and doesn't want me on 
his team anymore yeah I mean uh so the actual uh the rules for how the league is going to operate we're still working 
on we actually haven't released yet um working with ESL on that um but it will be really strict um because we're 
putting so much money on the line and uh you know there's going to be a lot of I mean frankly a lot of money to be made essentially uh we will be asking for a 
bit higher We'll be asking for a bit more out of our players this time around um 
you know making sure that people aren't using troll team names and troll player names uh like right now there's a player 
I'll actually reference his name Sunfish uh he plays on na and he has a new interesting name every single week and I 
know it makes the Caster's life hell uh just because he's always got some really troll name that he'll have to uh say 
another guy named Marvin for example has uh some interesting names uh when our lips 
touch I'm not laughing this is this is terrible well yeah it is there was a a an event that Chap and I casted it was 
like a year ago this is like my favorite story I love this and it was really hard for us to cast this because like 
something would happen with him and it'd be really hard to reference it would be like so chap uh when our lips touch and 
it' be like oh oh oh oh uh that's not what I meant actually I meant uh the 
player that we're looking at when our lips touch and anyways uh it just makes everyone's life really difficult as 
funny as it can be um and then your girlfriend busted in and everything was yeah it was a rough time I had a lot of explaining to do it was was bad it was 
bad nice all right so how does this work with the in-game systems uh yeah so um 
we privilously announced the guil team leaderboard which Hugh's been working on I brought you here just to be your eye 
candy I know thank thanks guys I'm just here for I bring Hugh ever with me heugh is my hype Angel the hype Angel that's 
right I'm I'm barely holding on because this is so exciting he does he'll just float up to the ceiling oh we should have got wired Sor 
we got a seat belt for Hugh yeah the chair starts lifting like uh so anyways 
uh yeah so uh like I mentioned before we're actually be closely mirroring what we're doing with the pro league with 
in-game systems so the same time that we have our PVP League going on the pro league will be going on and also the 
guild team Challenger League uh or the guild Challenger League rather um which is formerly known as The Guild team leaderboard or guil team ladder so 
basically um at the end of season one uh to get in what you need to do is be the very top team or one of the top teams on 
the guild team leaderboard uh I'm the terminology is killing I know we just gu 
challeng now that we're anounced it uh to everyone it's kind of hard to remember the terminology yeah let's just uh back up uh Mark if you could just 
bleep out that whole section take it back take it back take it back we'll edit out the YouTube version so yeah it's like The Way live TV Works 
they can't hear me right now right course yeah we're just all recording uh yeah anyway so the top teams on the guild Challenger uh in Guild Challenger 
League will face off against the bottom teams in the pro league for an opportunity to move into pro league um a 
really important thing with it to keep in mind too is that um we're lowering restrictions almost across the board so 
oh it's absolutely huge there's a ton of really talented and gifted players out there that just haven't been able to participate because of a or they're from 
a country like Egypt or Antarctica or wherever else um no they're actually 
from just pointing out that it's not never mind go ahead uh carry on we keep devolving into 
absurdity I'm sorry about that so I brought the hype Angel that's right uh that'll help anyways uh so now you just 
have to be 16 years old um to participate which is huge because it used to be 18 and there's a ton of players in that little Gap there as you 
know kids like to play video games they they do it's really strange very weird mine hate it a phenomenon going on 
lately um and the other thing is that again uh if you're from Egypt or ant Antarctica ant antar Antarctica you had 
it the first time Antartica yes we'll justar we'll Ed out we'll out no one can 
hear us no one can hear us no one can hear us uh just make sure to hit out when we actually go live usually it's me saying ridiculous stuff so this is nice 
uh anyways uh so if you're from those regions you can actually still uh or um places or whatever want to call them you still compete actually so it's huge 
there's a ton of players that have had to uh turn back you know the doors are open for more people now yes yeah so the 
level competition should rise substantially you know with us going uh play for free in the past couple months like a number of players from uh Brazil 
actually one of our uh fastest growing areas now play for free uh can all uh compete and I know a ton of players that 
are actually great players uh that can actually play now that just sitting there like thanks man yeah yeah exactly 
North America before was just um Mexico North America and uh sorry I call North America United States North America is 
North America though in your defense there is one uh the United States continent yes 
okay uh no so players from Mexico uh the us or Canada be on the show every 
week is right now it's not that I didn't want to host ready up anymore they just booted me off like you can never come up 
you and you together is the worst thing on the planet the way we roll there's like PR 
people here just like all monitoring cut it cut it I see a pink slip over there 
someone's literally writing pkug things so Hugh yay all right I'm 
ready I'm ready H sorry are you done I'm done darn 
okay so Hugh we are going to keep developing the game I we're not done and we're not just going to drop this and 
walk away so we're going to have balance changes in the future how does this fit in 
with so no Antarctica yeah Antarctica yeah Antarctica is no so we're going to 
be doing is there's going to be a balance patch two weeks before proleague Pro leagues and The League season actually start okay to let that kind of 
meta kind of adjust itself of course if anything's out of the whack we kind of have a little bit of time for us ourselves to make sure we you know 
adjust anything that gets crazy um but the two weeks before pro league start two weeks before uh The League season 
start the guil Challenger League all that stuff all that starts two weeks right after that awesome and when is 
that uh come on so I was like uhoh wait a minute uh so um there are a couple key 
beats you can look forward to um I know week one of pro league is going to start on November 23rd that may not match our PVP Pro uh PVP league and Game season 
exactly but it'll uh match up closely in the future uh but our Open qualifier will be taking place on uh November 14th 
15th and 16th um so it's plenty of time for people to uh get used to I mean I don't know if you know but we're 
launching expansion next week have you heard about it at all my God trying not to think about that right now yeah 
thanks man uh so plenty time for players a paper bag to breathe in yeah please uh plenty of time for players to adjust to 
the meta figure things out uh for us to balance things yes because there's going to be a ton of new factors for us to look at oh yeah um you know something I 
mentioned I would talk about on the show today is uh something we haven't talked about aside from Elite specs going in 
and tons of other stuff that's going to be affecting PVP uh we're also going to be uh putting in new sigils and runes 
and Stat combos yes uh which should open a whole brand new variety of builds that we haven't even thought of or heard of 
before so yeah yeah uh it is going to be an interesting time but we're uh we're definitely 
dedicated to making sure that any uh emergent issues that come out that we're not super happy with that we're going to have time set aside for us to uh spend 
addressing those issues yes awesome all right one more question for Hugh yes 
double yes you just lean in front of for 1,000 yeah oh man that's going to be here make some money right there that's 
money so World Championship happens then we're just done heck no thank you it's going to keep going going to keep going 
I mean the big thing is I think we just want to keep this going as long as we can right we want Pro leagues to be part 
of just the ecosystem that is PVP we want tournaments be part of the ecosystem we want everything to engage 
not only the player base the top guys but also for the you know the guys that are coming up to try to get into these things have something to look forward to 
always right that progression we want to keep always going for as long as we can yeah I'll uh I'll touch on that just 
just briefly and you actually did amazingly well I don't you weren't expecting that one were you I was not expecting that one 
was like he's over here to be pretty I got it you got any marketing specific questions just address 
those I've been taking a lot of development ones so we might as well balance it out uh yeah uh something that 
we've we've mentioned in a couple of the interviews that we've done with like fortune and Forbes is that this is a long-term play for us um we're only 
announcing up to uh the world championships this year and we're still kind of being vague on the details because those are still being worked on 
and we want to make sure that we give a a really big announcement with that later on this year just digging just digging for those 
questions uh but but this is a long-term play for us so there will be things that happen after this and uh we really want to make sure that competitive PVP and 
kind of that that sense of aspiration of where you can go and what you can do um after uh the actual in-game leagues and 
the in the guild Challenger leaderboard is still there and uh I think it's a really important part for Guild Wars 2 for us and we'll continue to work on 
that as things goes on as time goes on as things go on too as as all the things move forward time and whatever else 
space yeah space especially space especially space so anything else about space science space confirmed space 
space confirmed oh no not conf conf not confirmed why would you do thator space 
is off the table anything else about Pro leagues uh 
I don't think so uh one I I will say uh shout out to all the players out there that uh consist or constantly 
participate in PvP you obviously we couldn't done up in this without you guys and uh looking forward to see what happens over the next year and uh again 
be really hyped for PVP leagues I think this is a really exciting thing for us uh being able to show off in game how awesome you are compared to everyone 
else I you know I'm a particularly egotistical person so I'm looking forward to that I am too a little bit a 
little bit yeah I made a cool video oh did you yeah 
yeah you made fil materi is like on their way here right now all right do you want to tell us what this is oh yeah 
uh so this is actually the you made it yeah so uh we're going to transition out of this segment and we're going to move 
on to something else now uh legendary stuff I think and Camera things I don't know like cool stuff yeah you guys 
should stick around and watch but uh anyways we big tournament in Cologne uh in August and there a little recap that 
we had ESL make for us so think it's the first time it's been seen so uh enjoy guys and thanks for thanks for sticking 
around with us thank you guys that was 
fun welcome here to Gamescom welcome to cologne and welcome to the world 
tournament series here for what is sure to be a great day of game 
one we have four teams competing for a total of $50,000 across the 
line all these four teams right now are looking really on point if this could go 
any single way here [Music] 
that's a really great thing for TCG it's just really calm really collected it's 
just it's a very confident performance to be fair getting the kills they've got map control the portal players are doing 
they're very 
good this oh no they got the Rampage Lord at 70% oh my God look at this going 
down 50% they're going to get the kill they going to get win they're not a 350 
they're not a 350 they've still got 16 points left if they die they will lose 
points it is not over the C comes out it might just be they need to try and pick 
up the notes they need to hold the point but look who's on no this is an epic win for these 
guys yeah difficult stuff there for our Chinese team glhf but the abjured 
showing why they can be so dominant in in these positions well played there too are they have J they will take the 
series two yes and that sadly is the end of the road for the Chinese team out of four 
suddenly there are three now left orange logo going up get us the 
Civilized gentlemen it's heating up in here just like Mom's B and I guarantee you it's going to get hotter hopefully 
the mega Destroyer doesn't make an appearance and we have our tournament the way we'd like it 
it looks like this is going to be orange logo's game and with that I mean if orange logo it just takes a few more 
points here moving on into the Grand Final is fantastic for them against a European 
rival we're going to be getting into this between TCG and the 
abjured as these two teams battle it out one of them will be going home after 
this the only one we had to practice was a Jed and we didn't want to practice with them too much because uh like you 
don't want to show too much to your opponent right we been really confident going in because we did an incredible job first of them in scrims and such um 
we went very positive but there's always a difference between the live setting and I mean it's not about what team is the most consistent so that was really 
well just the fact that they were more consistent would actually matter what Chang that's it this is the game and the 
abjured have defeated TCG [Music] 
coming up it is our grand final of course the World Tournament series for guil Wars 2 it's going to be a rematch 
from Jor to make it through but they have to win two best of Threes in a row 
to win this one orange logo only have to win the one I feel like you know the OB 
just there's something about today their confidence they needed to change things up and they've changed it they've done 
what they needed to do I think still orange logo you know we we never know what's going to happen with these 
boys this is looking fantastically the [Music] 
abjured the abjured have demolished orange logo here in game number two and 
they will be resetting our bracket we will be going onto another best of three here so whoever wins this series wins 
that is it yeah we have the full reset on our hands right now the abjured are 
on the top of the world they are on top of the world here they are one game away from being Crown champions We Are can 
see Ron coming into that Rampage form though as well trying to kill these guys so they can get map control of course 
but as again orange logos as they get those kills around the map they lose the Caps they 
have theur the abjured have just steamrolled they have been on point all 
day long after getting sent down to the lower bracket and what a way they're playing this 
out well the first series was the really close Best of three that they they won 
two in and we won one but we knew that our comp was Stronger like our classes but we just didn't play well enough and 
um after we beat the other European team we were super hyped and we were playing way better so that's when we got the 40 
in the grand [Music] 
finals looks like people have stopped that is it that is it ladies and gentlemen the World Tournament Series 
champions recover from the lower bracket all the way through and they are able to 
take it unbelievable stuff here the abjured claim their second World 
Tournament Series championship 
and welcome back Lindsay Murdoch is with us everybody has been so excited about 
this show how long have we been talking about this uh I think since like your blog post in March before before 
definitely before yeah yeah we have had so many conversations you guys like just sitting around a table outside the 
kitchen like can we do it yet can we do it yet is it time is it time when are they going to work on the effects when it's going to be ready yeah it turns out 
that it's not just you all by yourself making these and yep not just me all 
right so we talked about three new legendaries yes uh so I'm going to be sh 
we want to see them uh our three new legendaries can I say that your characters are beautiful thank you 
they're lovely I made them special for this yay so we are going to start with 
the new 
axe we could just do this for a little okay um well why don't I talk a 
little bit about um uh the story of our new axe please yeah I was like I got a list here yeah 
so um so for this new axe uh the primary theme to um the art and the model uh is 
these celestial bodies and this mechanism that's kind of creating a portal um um to look into the Stars so 
um for our three themed collections um here we 
go uh let me just do some 
magic make sure it is daytime oh okay okay so here you can see my uh my foot 
falls my sweet sweet footfall oh my gosh uh first I wanted to show you guys what 
it's going to look like if you only are equipping 
one that is really really shiny yeah I Lov 
it so you can see uh we've got this gorgeous arm effect that comes up 
um now let me hit some stuff is there a moose to be found at 
all here there's a MOA I generally don't like to be on for defens less moas but I 
like the lighting here so that's fair here's it you could have had a moose um 
come here to me a yeah oh no he okay 
yeah he's good yeah boom um so uh for our themed collections we kind of start 
off with um some ancient knowledge that you'll be seeking uh specific to uh 
astronomy um you'll be looking into um uh the Jen who are kind of um were sort 
of our first ancient astronomers uh so you'll be sort of finding um research 
researching around the globe um taking rubbings of Jen run Stones um things of 
that nature uh then you're going to move into um in collection three you'll be 
working on um sort of creating a device 
um that's used for Star charting in collection 4 you're going to be kind of 
powering up your device and then also building um star charting gear uh and 
then going around and actually charting constellations so our own original 
Tyrion constellations I like this I like the theme of start charting yeah yeah we 
were we were pretty happy with that uh so how many people did it take to come up with and finalize this theme I'm 
super curious oh my word now I'm wielding two of them 
what which is like is just you huh was it like just you oh goodness no Lind 
like I'm blinded by how beautiful they are I'm too busy looking at the pretties okay so I'm right there with 
you so we always start off this process with um uh well I suppose you could say 
it starts with the art um so uh we we know what it looks like we know 
um uh kind of a feel for uh the the visuals we don't necessarily have the 
models yet or uh we might have something that's partially completed um hasn't 
gotten its full effects yet um then uh myself and a group of designers from the 
rewards team and occasionally some special guests kind of ho up in a room for an hour to talk about it to talk 
about um what kind of themes we could see uh being in the three collections um 
nice and how those collections kind of build on each other and then once we kind of have determined the themes we 
think about things all over the game that fit into those themes um and just kind of get like a nice brainstorm going 
uh on that then um uh for most of these 
uh it was Andy McLoud and I would uh go off and kind of divvied them up uh between the two of us and we took our 
themes and we took our basic kind of actions that have been brainstormed and we run around the game uh we spent a lot 
a lot of time in game I know a lot of people saw me running around um in game 
because I like to do my research uh on live um and I I even did things like um 
uh put myself through the actions that I was expecting a player to do so if for 
instance I wanted somebody to complete a particular jumping puzzle I'm not super awesome at jumping puzzle so I thought I 
was a pretty good gauge for whether or not it was reasonable to ask somebody to do it so I would actually make myself do 
the jumping puzzle or make myself find um a torch and go kill stuff with it or 
um things like that um so now that you say that about huddling in a room I'm remembering walking into a room with the 
Whiteboard for a meeting yes and I looked up cuz I think I messaged you yeah this was for Hope yeah was this for 
hope this was for hope uh which I'm going to next the thing that stood out to me I'm looking at the Whiteboard 
going what happened in here cuz there's just random stuff written everywhere and at the top right hand corner it said 
kill everything so I finally got back to my desk and I messaged Lindsay I was like did you just have a meeting in this room 
for legendaries actually I think I I just 
want to sit here and look at your armor and your weapons 
forever musts so 
nice just show the weapon only real quick um and then I'm going to switch to 
hope our pistol um so so we do these brainstorms then we go off and kind of 
individually find a bunch of stuff um and then we kind of come back together 
uh once a certain amount of those have been um designed on paper and um and we 
kind of do a review with uh a similar group of people who were in The brainstorm um go over everything that we we want to 
put in the collections and kind of say well I think this might have too many of this type of thing let's let's try to 
shift it this way or um this seems a little bit tricky for a player to kind 
of understand or or whatever and kind of just do a quick pass on them um to make sure that we're happy with what we have 
make any adjustments that we need to um and then move on to the next um I 
mentioned in my last blog post that we had to be really clever about how we built these cuz we were on um well not a 
short amount of time but a short amount of time for what we were trying to build um oops I don't want to be here because 
the lighting is [Music] crazy and there are things that we want 
to leave a surprise for now lock I don't know how to use 
non-ergonomic keyboards I'm so bad at it we should we were talking about this right before 
Lindsay came in she switched to an ergonomic keyboard and like learned how to type that years ago now I can't use 
regular keyboard we give her a flat keyboard and it just ruins everything for 
her K you have to get those chests cuz they're driving me crazy what chests oh my bouncies y there's going to be too 
many of them you don't actually do that I'm Sor all right see you guys I tried I'm sorry oh my goodness okay you can 
just distract me with that so my sweet sweet footfalls these are one of my 
favorite um and this is hope this is for Hope yep um so first I'm going to show 
you what it looks like when you're wielding 
one boom ow yeah this is the one I've been looking 
forward to since I first saw it really yes I want this my Thief she does not 
even use pistols right now but I want it 
anyway that is amazing I love that and then all right 
swap so shiny very shiny that is amazing 
um so the story for this guy is all about kind of um you start off sort of 
apprenticing yourself to a HCK um I don't really need to kill them mo I mean 
I just want to show you the Chinese um but so you start in collection one apprenticing yourself to a high like 
Alchemist um and kind of learning the basics of high like Alchemy and potion making um and testing out those skills 
uh then in collection three oh look sweet um you're a trash collection yay 
uh you'll be looking at more um kind of aurin Technologies uh and um researching 
those and kind of bringing that knowledge together uh in collection 4 where you're going to um kind of meld 
the two concepts together you're going to sort of make um these two tubes the 
red tube and the blue tube um and uh which are I believe it's um an 
alchemical Catalyst and uh Transcendent energy um and uh which when brought 
together much like epoxy creates something new um uh a violent reaction 
um that is what you are firing and then you will also be um in collection for uh 
crafting a catalytic converter to make it not so dangerous to 
yourself all right so what's the pattern on the footfalls I can't figure it out you can't figure it out uh they're 
switching color so we had like blue blue blue red 
yeah so uh our artists uh we don't really have Tech to be able to like 
cleanly swap from one thing to another so they were trixy about it um so 
there's not really any pattern it's just going to kind of swap back and then I'll stop trying to figure out the pattern and D me crazy blue yeah um so yeah so 
this is our our pistol all right so I have a question for you that we were we were 
kind of looking at your guys's questions over the past week or so and I have a 
question because you have two of this pistol mhm um I yes do you know what's 
coming yes I do all right I want to make two precursors so I can make two of 
these pistols um so uh you know now that we have the Wardrobe um you can skin any 
pistol with this pistol once you have it um so that kind of covers uh your ability to to dual wield the the art um 
of course all the effects come with it when you skin something um but uh I 
think people are wondering about two things there's kind of the stat select uh functionality of a legendary and 
there's also the title twice told Legend um twice told Legend is only going to be 
uh acquirable by crafting two of the set one legendaries um you won't be able to get 
it uh with any future legendary weapons um so uh there's that uh but we 
do recognize that people tend to want to get those sweet stat selecting items um 
it's really nice to be able to just switch your stats on the Fly uh that's definitely a really attractive um thing 
about legendaries so we're working on a way for um uh people to once they have 
crafted say hope um to uh unlock a recipe uh to be able to cra kind of a 
naked legendary um so uh just to get that stat selecting item um I I'm not 
sure when uh that will go in um but that's kind of what we're working on so 
it's not that we just didn't think of it that we are working on this we are working on it uh right because I'm going 
to need two of these well I mean like I said once you get one you got the skin I 
want two of the actual look I just really like this okay I see okay all right so what else we got 
um oh uh I'm going to show the staff now and I know people are really interested in um staff melee and how this staff 
looks in melee um so I have one on this 
lovely lady y oh goodness I well you do I'm going to just come 
over here and cough Excuse me while you do 
that now she's she's got the right steps now 
I'm good all right so this is never 
more um I I I really really love this staff 
you guys it is absolutely gorgeous you guys did such a good job with it really 
love it um I don't think I noticed before the effects spiraling down and I 
have been eyeballing this thing for a long time These Guys these nice little rooms 
here they get even cooler when I pull it out check it out let me just do that 
pulled back a little bit so as you can 
see my My Little Pet Raven becomes a spirit Raven once wielded and one of my 
favorite little touches is these little uh spirit birds that kind of flow up the oh I didn't notice they were birds so 
cool cool all right when I noticed when you started wielding it you also you have 
like a little flock of ravens up top yeah so there is a um I'm not sure if I'll be able to relate there you can 
kind of see them um they uh you'll see some of those uh you'll see them when 
you um uh wield the weapon um pull it out um they kind of swoop down a little 
bit and uh you'll also see them a little bit on the projectile um but let me 
Fury is so a lot of people I think thought that uh this staff in melee would be a little bit silly um yeah I 
mean sure there's some there's some like Twiggy stuff going on but uh but I think it works out just fine these guys aren't 
aren't meaty enough for me I need something bigger I need to kill something bigger 
you're in calone Forest so I know you're going to have to lower the bar a little 
bit it's just wow damn I really love the Daredevil all right here's a risen but I 
think uh I think the uh um the the streaks uh are really cool um I don't 
think it feels uh particularly bad when you're whacking something with this guy 
um it's still pretty freaking sweet it is and I like the footfalls they're 
subtle oh yes so uh the ever important footfalls um are some of have never had 
legendary and are still very excited about footfalls you can see little little fluffs of spirit feathers popping 
up um I should also uh show off my sweet arm effect um oh my God I didn't notice 
that yeah now let me hop to my Mesmer she 
shows this guy a little bit better so I already have the staff picked out for my Thief but now I really want this one too 
um yeah I I really love never Nevermore it came out incredible um you know we 
have had uh the base model for a while people found it um a while back um 
because somebody loved it so much they set it up on a test item which put it straight into the D um but uh but we 
didn't we didn't get the effects until much more recently and I think the effects just really take it they 
absolutely make it yeah and I'm glad you pointed out all of these little touches because I didn't notice the little trail 
of birds going up there and I hadn't seen the runes before so all right so let's see what it looks like 
ranged your character looks amazing again she looks 
lovely hey oh wow um so now you can see the 
awesome projectile uh I particularly like how it's bouncing between the dummies I 
spent a decent amount of time just staring at this yesterday it's so 
beautiful yeah uh I I love the projectile it came out really great you can also see there's some Ravens that 
swoop down to kind of meet it um as it flies out yeah um can catch that and 
again there's this really cool arifa uh there's a lot going on and it manages 
not to be too busy yeah yeah that was a hard balance to strike I'm sure yeah I mean um wow there are a lot of you right 
now there's there are three of me which I I like you know especially if I'm trying to show off a projectile might as 
well yep um wow so yeah okay love it Nevermore um the story for Nevermore is 
um kind of taking uh this Spirit uh and 
a raven and buing them together uh so in the beginning um you kind of have to 
start small and sort of prove that you're a friend of nature um because this is a a a nature kind of spirit 
thing um so you kind of go around doing things to protect nature around the 
world um then uh in collection three uh 
you're going to um you're you're chasing down this raven Spirit around the world so you kind of um create this this uh 
object the uh subtle spy glass that lets you kind of see um the true nature of 
these kind of pocket this this like Raven that you're kind of chasing around the world so you're going to a bunch of 
different locations you'll find a raven there you'll use your uh spy glass um 
and uh the spirit will reveal itself and run away and so you're kind of chasing it down throughout the world um until 
you finally um uh catch it uh then collection 4 you are taming your spirit 
you're sort of doing there's two things that you're doing in collection four you're taming the spirit um showing it 
uh your power getting blessings from Raven um and uh showing it how things 
from The Mists can come and live in the corporeal world and then at the same 
time you are getting a raven egg and and some people from uh who play Guild Wars 
1 might recognize this a little bit um but you get a raven egg and you um uh 
bless the egg Raven blesses the egg I knew that's I was sitting here listening to you going the egg and you build uh an 
incubation box for the egg and you hatch your egg and then um thank 
you out it was a black MOA the whole time I couldn't help it um the black MOA 
chick uh quest uh line and gu Wars 1 was one of the favorite things that I'd ever done so it was so much fun if you didn't 
play Guild Wars 1 there was this huge multi-continent scavenger all thees to 
hatch this to get the egg and hatch this baby MOA and that was yeah it was it was 
a mini pet that you actually got to have for and I was so proud when I got that thing yeah that was awesome I love that 
thing so um uh you're going to do yeah a similar thing then once your Raven is 
hacked you're going to feed it you're going to teach it how to fly you're going to get it ready to become a vessel 
for the spirit um and eventually Mel the two together so um that's the story of 
Nevermore that so I deliberately did not know nevermore's story I wanted to be 
surprised by something today that is amazing you should be really really proud oh thanks uh so I I uh I couldn't 
help but I had to had to work on Nevermore myself um there's some Nostalgia speaking here too there is and 
and there's even more um so I know people are wondering why we CH chose these particular legendaries to start 
with um for both the axe and the pistol um it was kind of a situation where um 
the artist who worked on them plays the game a whole lot loves the game and uh 
was inspired to make them uh and so he kind of just did it and said hey look what I made isn't it awesome I was like 
oh my God it's so awesome and L she said yes yes it is it's super awesome uh 
but with uh never more um there was always this kind of running gag uh from 
guil Wars one of the Raven staff being just the most prolific rare drop uh 
like so so like half the time you'd get a rare drop 
you'd be like oh look it's another Ravena or Rams Hammer Raven staff or a Rams Hammer W all the time right you're 
just always and and so like nobody cared about this skin even though the Raven staff was actually a pretty cool weon it 
was I mean I liked it so much I had like a hundred of them I think a lot of people got a good hundred of them uh so 
um uh we always talked about how wouldn't it be funny if um in Gil Wars 2 
uh the Raven staff is actually legendary it's like this super desirable thing 
yeah exactly uh that just made me giggle like really hard so um after we shipped 
too I kind of put a bug in Dave beestone ear like hey Dave it'd be really cool if 
we had a legendary ra and staff and he was he laughed of course uh Dave uh 
plays our game um and uh he knew exactly what I was talking about um and then 
they made this for me so how on Earth did I not make that connection until now I'm dying that's amazing so in fact the 
uh uh tier three precur precursor is actually called The Raven staff cuz I I couldn't could help it I couldn't help 
myself you can't do this without putting the actual Raven stuff in there that is too funny um also uh so we've got a 
couple treats for people today a few little previews um yeah there's a you got 
people may notice my shoulder is pretty red like it that is the 
specialization how do I get it for tempest um it is a reward for the 
Tempest sleep um I want to back up just one sec 
because I didn't I don't know I just didn't realize this the name never more 
came from the Edgar Allen Poe poem and not everybody knew that I 
mean not everybody not everybody caught that reference because it's not necessarily something that you're made 
to read in every school around the world so I was on I was looking at Reddit the other day and somebody was like you guys 
I found out where the name Nevermore came from and a couple people came in going how did you not know that and then 
half the thread came back in going no you don't understand that this isn't in every school ever yeah yeah so yeah that 
is it it like uh uh I didn't come up with the name it was suggested to me and when it was it was the one of those 
instant things where I was like oh yeah obviously yeah this is what it has to be 
that is clearly what it's got to be um so uh I've got what else do I have I 
have a list of things that I want to cover yeah um I am going to switch over to another 
character real quick wait actually first let me show you guys it in here I'm trying to be patient 
because I know what I want you to show and I know it's on your list do what I say do what I say okay 
maybe not she looks so good why why won you do this you're in combat I'm in 
combat d when when you get out of combat well it doesn't feel like combat you're 
just beating on a training dummy I know right once you are out of combat you can show us a pretty neat 
thing there we go I just love how the it took it took a 
lot of work to get that Raven to always Orient up by the way all these people say saying that um they can't wait to 
see the raven like at a 90 degree angle or something no we we got we got that it 
turns out you thought of that yeah we did there she is love it she looks 
fantastic love it yeah so the Raven is not going to just flail around sideways 
and upside down it for a while do you have screenshots of that 
that I can see later because that would be great uh probably not actually oh man 
uh so um it took a lot to get this right way yeah totally and and uh you know the 
effects artists have been working on this stuff for a while and um you know a lot of people had had found um this guy 
uh I'm surprised they didn't uh we didn't slip out the pistol and the axe 
because we've had those for just about as long as kind of funny somebody asked me about the Raven staff at PEX Prime 
this year I think and I was thinking the same thing I was like that's all you found great yeah 
um so uh I saw some people saying that they didn't think the Raven staff or or 
never more was uh dark enough for a necro uh to which I say challeng 
accepted you did a good job I'm very happy with this so um she looks great I 
I threw this together uh last night late last night um also kind of previewing a 
couple of our armor skins from heart of thorns um I think she's pretty badass 
she looks good and she still looks pretty great I'm still stuck on people 
saying that a staff with a literal Raven sitting on it is not I know I know I 
know what I I was like it's not a dum no I I am I'm super biased of course like a 
pink bow on it I really love Nevermore um one thing that I think also really 
well supports this is check out how nicely that Scythe attaches all right 
that works come on guys come on come on it looks good it works um let's see what else do 
I need to cover oh okay so there's a tough a couple tough questions that I'll I'll uh I'll hit right now while you 
guys just observe my sweet sweet necro um yes please so uh one uh uh you 
guys noticed that I said full set of 16 weapons why 16 linday uh why why lindsy 
that was not a slip I did that on purpose um uh so I I'm here to confirm 
that we are not going to be making more uh underwater Legendary Weapons uh we're going to stick with the above ground um 
on land thank you for confirming uh so yeah uh you heard it here um another 
thing that I've seen come up a few times is uh questions about the gift of 
exploration and the gift of Fortune not being used in uh the new legendary 
recipes okay so what if you made the gift of Fortune and you've been hoarding it all this time um and I know there are 
people out there who have uh kind of stockpiled some gifts of Fortune you know preparing for new legendaries 
coming out um so our plan for that is uh you know first let me before I get to 
that let me just uh uh tell you what we're doing with the gift of exploration so the gift of exploration is for 
getting world complete in central tor um we are not using it in new 
legendaries if you went and got world complete a bunch of times hoping you would be able to use this on new 
legendaries you're kind of out of luck um we're not really going to be doing 
anything to bridge that Gap um these legendaries are about mastering the 
content they're associated with and um you know the central Tyrion the set one 
legendaries are about mastering Central Tera um set two is about uh hard Thorns 
um you do go into Central tyia quite a bit uh you know it is a huge part of our game obviously um but we're not going to 
be requiring uh you map complete or world complete Central tyia we are requiring that you'll you'll map 
complete um the maps associated with heart of thorns uh we just don't think 
it's um it may seem like well why not just include it as well like include 
Central tyia as well um we did think about that and uh ultimately came to the conclusion that 
it wasn't going to be fair down the line or fun for people um once they've gotten 
a few legendaries say set five comes out um and now they have to go world 
complete again uh in central tyria um for every single legendary moving forward we just didn't think that was 
going to be fun it's going to you know doing it a few times is great but like once you're you know you're not going to 
want to do it 10 times just because you wanted 10 weapons yeah it's not it's not a good thing in the long run yeah we 
however feel differently about gift of Fortune um many of the components in gift of Fortune are used uh in the new 
mystic tribute uh that's used for the new legendaries um and we do you know 
it's it's so expensive to uh put together the gift of Fortune um and since so many of those components are 
used in both we felt it was important to to let you get those back so we're going 
to be adding um not with heart of Thorn's ship but uh after ship um we'll 
be adding Salvage tables to uh the gift of Fortune so that you'll be able to salvage your gift of Fortune and get 
back all of the base materials so you could put those towards uh the Mystic tribute and be able to use it in a new 
legendary okay so this part is super important when you Salvage it it's not a chance that you'll get crap or might 
you're kind of just unpacking your gift you get everything yeah you're breaking it back down into exactly what you put into it yes you get all your stuff back 
yes that felt important to me yeah it felt important to me too I I did think like you know should there be um you 
know should we skim off a little as a cost um and I just didn't think that was 
cool thank you thank you I'm so relieved so glad um so I I really wanted to make 
sure to let people know about that um you know I've seen people being sad about having you know um quite a few 
gifts of Fortune I don't know how oh you managed to get up all the money I am super impressed I am very 
impressed so uh I have my one sad little gift of Fortune sitting over there yeah 
yeah um so yeah I I thought it was really important for us to address that and I wanted to be able to tell people about it here yay so um okay now I have 
uh one more little surprise um uh I've been pestering poor Lindsay about that 
since like what you walked in the room I was like can we show it yet yeah I know can we do it first are we going to do it 
first no we're not going to do it first Ruby I really like it okay I know you do 
all right let me see uh actually you know what uh before I do that no there 
is one quick thing that I just wanted to show uh a lot of people were uh kind of concerned about uh that first blog post 
where I showed a screenshot of the moot collection I had all placeholder icons in it but those placeholders included 
some very very expensive items and um people got really worried that we were 
going to be asking them to to get those very expensive items and we're not see um I just want to show you guys look 
this is the actual final collection what were the what were some of the placeholder icons uh it had like um the 
Lissa back piece and and the preserved queen bee right I'm like no of course 
I'm not going to make people get the queen bee for this like really no of course not no it's just mean um I just 
needed something um it was probably um the honey poot ant uh placeholder but 
yes this is the actual collection so I just wanted to quickly show that um and 
then yay Night Fury Night Fury this is a shoulder piece an 
ascended shoulder piece that you will be able to get in Halloween you're going to have to work for it it's not going to be 
easy you're not just going to give me an ascended for um and really all it is is a cloud 
of B bats that follow you around everywhere Bats Bats Bats 
um I love it this this was actually uh an Isaiah cartright special 
um he he had to mess around with things quite a bit to get it uh all nice and 
pretty we could like put that with your bat sword and other bat things that I can't talk about I looks great with her 
here like look at that not dark enough for a necro not dark enough for a Necro uh so 
yeah Izzy Izzy's actually put in some um some late nights working on Halloween 
trying to get it kind of lived here yeah and saved Halloween yeah he did a little 
bit uh we were really busy working on Heart Of Thorns really really busy working on heart of thorns and we just 
didn't know how we were going to get to doing some of the cool stuff that we wanted to do for Halloween um and and 
Izzy made it happen he really made it happen so uh with help from Mike Z and Nate Johnson yeah and and various other 
support people like QA and effect helped them troubleshoot this guy and you guys 
are going like Halloween yeah yeah we've got some we've got some really nice Chase items in Halloween this year um 
I'm I'm particularly particularly pleased with this guy so when you told me that we would be able to show these 
off today I have made an enormous point and I've been checking out the Halloween stuff I made an enormous point of not 
looking at this one so this is the first time I've it really and you were that excited I like it it turns out though I 
love our game and yeah I know how that is oh man it's it's bad um uh how many 
of these legendaries I want to get or at least get the precursor uh we just had so much fun designing this stuff like 
some of the best brainstorms that I've I've had in my career um including we did one offsite uh all day with a bunch 
of people um where we just like locked ourselves in a conference room all day along and just talked about what we 
wanted this thing to be like this journey to be like um and uh but yeah 
we've we've come out of these brainstorms just like laughing or just being excited like really jazzed uh 
about what we were we were talking about uh building uh so I mean there's there's 
collections that it's like I don't even want quip but the stuff you're doing in quip were is hilarious so I might just 
do it anyway I'm sorry that was an awful face I'm not a fan of Quip sorry H some people love it some 
people hate it you know it has to it has to be your thing and yeah it's definitely not my I mean I don't have 
any character that uh that does pistol but um uh I am definitely interested in 
some of that stuff and like the minstral like I I like some of the stuff that I did with the minstral so I might even 
just have to do that um but yeah I think my problem with my problem with like quip is that well my Thief was pistol 
pistol way back when and she's like my serious character yeah I know and that's that was kind of the problem I didn't 
have the heart to do that to and she and I'm looking at her going well she's got dual pistols and a short but 
well yeah I can't I can't I can't yeah and and we've definitely taken that into consideration like moving forward um you 
know uh wanting to make sure that there are some serious legendaries for weapon types that currently have very silly 
ones but now I have hope for my Thief yeah there you go I have hope exactly so 
come on dar proud of me but yeah uh that's fantastic this has 
been a really great project it was it was a uh buttload of work a lot of 
really late nights and a lot of weekends um to make this stuff as cool as it is 
I'm really really proud of it I'm really proud of my team how hard we all worked to to get this done and get it in for 
hot um I I think you guys are going be really happy with it I cannot over and I 
know I brag on our devs so much I cannot overstate how hard these guys have 
worked to make this happen and I am in awe so a thank you very much you guys 
you guys have pulled off Miracles yeah and it it looks it it looks so good 
thank you yeah they really came out great all right so those are our three new legendaries we have we have like 
gone for a super long time we still have one more thing to talk about here with you guys um this this next segment that 
we're doing I don't well I don't know I'm I'm scared to give away too much but some people 
have guessed it did you did you see no I didn't I'll have to show you um there's 
a Reddit thread where people guessed so yeah we're going to wrap up with legendaries and we're gonna come back 
with something else for you guys so thank you Lindsay and so big we'll be back in a couple 
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say um thank you for letting thank you for letting us use your music I really appreciate it all right so Joel Is With 
Us Joel is one of our gameplay programmers and has been I'm not 
nervous you're fine'll you guys tell them it's fine fine here at the end of 
this apparently someone's going to give you a baby so or something I I don't know it's strange the person who 
promised their firstborn is so happy right now because oh 
dear all right so Jill has been working on something all sneaky like in the background tell us why first yeah so 
like I guess we should start with a little Preble so Gil Wars 2 is an action RPG right you you would describe it as 
an action RPG and if you look at other action games look at like I like a Tomb 
Raider or call like Skyrims AC RPG uh or you look more towards like even like 
shooters sort those action elements like like a mass effect or something like that right 
um and you compare it to like how our game plays it's it's similar we have a 
lot of similar elements but it's there are a few things that are off and we're missing some things well a little um and 
so if you look at how specifically today I'm going to talk about like how our control scheme Works M and if look you 
look at ours it's more derived from you can go back to like your Wars one know 10 years ago a little more than 10 years ago uh where and then you go further you 
look at sort of the history of that you go back like I was playing Boulder skate recently just for the ls oh my God that game um and but it's if you start if you 
start talking about that I'm gonna be really mad because that is so not why we're here so let's not do that it plays 
differently yeah so if you look at how those kind of games work it's more of a uh you select a unit and you issue a Mor 
you say like I'd like you to move here i' like you attack Hero that kind of thing whereas in action game the concept is more you don't have to issue the 
order you just you just do the thing and it doesn't even if under the hood it all works the same the the perception is different right right but if you look at 
like G one sort of worked it was still more of like I would like you to walk here you click on Spa the ground I like 
you to move here here look at this thing Target it 
yeah and so and if you need to like do something behind you like you turn the camera and then you do this thing and then you turn the camera and you do this 
thing yeah and that has carried forward IND G Wars I MH where we still have this 
you turn the camera and you act and you turn the camera and you act even though the game is trying to be more like an action game where you just kind of act 
in the direction you're looking all the time so would it be cool if we had some sort of like action cam well you think 
you think so right um see how I did that yeah nice uh and so 
anyway it didn't really occur to me that this was something that was kind of missing in the game until I played some 
other games uh other MMO RPGs you're allowed it's okay am I am iow am I 
allowed to play other you are we don't throw you off the roof for that right so um can I name names if you must I don't 
I don't have to okay uh I want to hear about this action I want to hear I know you do I'm just trying I'm try I'm 
trying to like lay some groundw here but anyways playing them I was like hold 
on why don't we do this why aren't we doing this because like I wouldn't put 
up with this in a shooter for example um oh that would be super funny it's a 
little weird and so like have sort of made do so far um but they're like okay 
well I still want it to play like an action game so I'll just always keep 
camera look like hold down right Mouse button it get it gets you about what you want but it's it's a little cluing and 
so really what this comes down to is that extra degree of Freedom you've got on the mouse where you can move the mouse around and select stuff it really 
isn't necessary you don't need it um we can do and and so that really is a like the key device 
like that is what we missing to go all the way into being an so so here's a thing so here we go 
um so I I did some work worked some things you've been working on this for a 
long time so we can go to the history of it now or I could show it now let's see it let's 
let see let's take a look all right so because she just so seems amazing are we uh I I have no idea of knowing what this 
right here is what you're looking at the bottom left all right so what does it do how is this 
making it better for me first off just show you the thing so in controls you 
probably haven't noticed because it hasn't been in there there's this magical action camera I think Colin named it I'm not sure if you didn't name 
it Colin I'm still giving you credit um and what is action camera well it's an 
action game it is a camera mode suited for actioning so I've set it to left alt that's where seen it in other games you push the magic button hang on 
to your butts and no fingers 
cool if you notice there a little dot middle of the screen it's not a snowflake that is a 
crossair and it is a DOT because this came from our uh one of our art leads 
Luke knucker he like Luke yeah yeah L right and we go as far back as I go in 
this company um and he's like I really like having a very minimal targeting 
thing I didn't really have any reason to say no so do that works um and I noticed 
when you panned over something that you can hit no I want to see all the things right at the same time we'll get there 
we'll get there okay so basic the basic stuff right so got fre control no no fingers I think you yeah um move 
around and as this is an action game and we would like to emphasize freedom of 
motion you run it full mobility in all directions which is different like if 
you turn it off you notice you got this slower animations but you know nah we don't need that so it's like you've 
turned the camera sort of in free cam and looking behind you except you're not you're just holding back all right so um 
we have this Crosser they're like okay well that's nice what does it do and the S of Segways into not really 
Segway the wrong word but um sort of underlines the fact that the sort of camera controlly part of it took me like 
a week I did that like a year ago and this is it was just sort of first prototype like you know I wonder if I could do this because I really would 
like to have this in the game and uh we don't have this pause and show you this from chat you haven't even started 
it yet you're welcome there's a lot more to come zarai zarai we're glad you're happy yeah um anyway so the sort of 
camera side of it is actually very simple it is targeting is actually where things get really complicated and where 
I've spent most of my time and I've just sort of been working on this just reference this has just been sort of a background project I've been working on 
since last October and just coming in on weekends many Sundays have died varing 
us these features and uh it's great okay so 
um Su deer so here's how it works there are four states on the on the cross here 
so we have nothing there's there's a dude under your Crosshair who could be a Target you get 
closer actually switch there we go there's a dude under your Crosshair and this little circle means 
and if you use a skill it's going to Target that guy and then the final state where it rotates says all right there's 
a dude under your Crosshair know it's too dark let's make it there we go hey look at that um and 
then this means there's D under your cross here and he's in range of skill one that'll be significant in a moment skill one is special uh uh all right 
furthermore attacks happen toward the Crosser so if you don't have a guy targeted you 
go wow that is very hard to see shoot over Bridge nope all right let's find something like 
lighter why are the shots blue why would you do this all right well 
anyway that's that's disappointing um yeah so he's shooting right across here you just found a thing to work on no no 
no that's that's just a it's not it's not my problem um 
anyway but you you can see the arrow itself though it's kind like right right the Crosser and also student observers may 
have noticed I'm hitting left click to fire that rather I don't have to hit one one also works but I don't have to 
because left click now we're not using it for any camera controls it's like fine it's skill one now just like any shooter used to um let's 
see yeah works for melee weapons Swing Swing the 
direction and then we can go you watch the cross rotate that's actually pretty hard to see on 
that background but and you swing [Music] away and I'm sorry I'm sorry Bambi I 
just killed your mother it's harsh it's harsh uh all right you don't even sound 
a little bit sorry not really okay I can just spawn more it's it's the magic of video games all right so um anyway can 
show let's see what should we talk about next so should we talk about next skill retargeting no that's way too soon then 
don't ask me yeah let's okay let's not ask you about that um because this is what I have next in my list all I see 
all right so you know what see this go with what you feel led all right well action ca's going to take a lot of it then so there are a lot of things where 
when I was saiding this I was like you know this specific thing let's not look at that cuz there's come 
on that was me hitting a button I I want kill moose people can moose at the time all right so uh there are a couple 
things when I was doing this I was like all right what is it that annoys me about targeting a lot right now so 
there's there's a couple of them so first off let's go find another deer hello 
dear go okay so here's one thing that annoys me when you are not using this action camera it is sometimes very hard 
to know whether you are going to use a skill on a guy or not like I can do this probably I'm going to shoot that deer 
yep you're like why did I shoot the deer because he was like way over there and that's weird and I didn't know that 
ahead of time that I'd be shooting him now now I shot him and now he's fighting me and I don't want to it's especially bad with movement skills so like skill 
three for example it is very frustrating when 
there's a guy right over there and you're like I like to go that way and it goes no I think you want to go this way actually and so a lot of people are like 
okay well uh I'll just turn off auto targeting because it's really frustrating and I'll just live with it and that's too bad because other 
targeting can make your life a lot easier so now what you know is okay well 
if there's a circle there we go if there's a circle then I'm going to use a skill on them if there's not I'm not 
going to use a skill on them I'm just going to go that way so at any point you know exactly what your skill is going to 
do you don't have to worry about it you just you just 
know it's also nice there's another situation I run into a lot where like a lock a guy let's grab this guy and 
they're like you know what there's a dude over here and I forget I have this guy locked where's a dude me a dude over here dude dude I'm buttons buttons 
buttons buttons no and uh where's dude over there's a dude over here and like I 
sure like to fight this guy but this guy's like no no no you want to fight me but I want to fight that stop stop he'll 
destroy you I will kill your entire family all 
right anyway sorry everybody in the room just lost it 
sorry anyway so but the thing is he is yeah so he's doing exactly so so what I 
want to do is I want to say all right I got got this guy locked but I want to fight somebody over this way dar's like crying back here and so now I know if 
nothing is marked then I'm not going to attack anybody if that guy is marked I'm 
going to attack that guy you can see like he's got a little circle under his feet so even though that's the guy that's locked I'm G to attack that 
guy there he goes shooting mov shoot the Moose shoot the Moose more fabulous 
Dragon Pole right there oh my gosh SE that yet all right Dead mission 
accomplished uh so it's just it's just a couple like as I do like okay so what the noise me how can I fix how can I 
make it better so we did um anyway yeah and so if you one of the 
key things and which people may guess like I wonder why this is important is the shots do land right where I'm 
pointing on the ground and uh I wonder I wonder why we might want such a feature what sort of 
content we might make tell us Joel why well I mean I can leave it up to people's imaginations that would be more 
fun it would be more fun actually let do that um maybe something to look forward to I you know I mean it's possibility uh 
okay okay so after you threatened to kill their entire family I couldn't resist and I had to peek at chat give 
this man a raise and a pie and a hug oh my God it's like the best chat comment ever 
I'm I'm glad they like me all right um so a couple more things so right click you're not using it for the camera 
anymore there's actually there was I spent a while trying to figure out what to use right click for so left click left click is very easy right that's 
skill one it's done that's Z Auto attack it's any shooter it's just shoot right but right click's a little weird 
in in some games it's another skill uh in some kicks in some games it's like 
it's a zoom like lot of Shooters it's a zoom which we don't really do uh and so 
like well what do we do and so like okay well I can try making it skill two and that works for some weapons but for 
others it's kind of weird it's not like really a secondary fire it's just some completely arbory skill and so was 
asking around for opinions uh got an opinion from uh I don't know if I want to call him out on stream somebody in 
programming uh and he was like you know what would be cool if uh right click 
lock your Target because there really isn't a great way I mean there there's no like great way to lock the dude under your 
Crosshair he's like I I want that guy over there right boom so right click now locks him right click again we clear him if he's 
not under your Crosser at the time okay so why would you lock Target why why does this matter because like clearly 
using Auto Target right like why would they need to do any of these things cross there that's find the bear some 
surely there bears around a rabbit rabbits do hello rabbit and 
so okay couple things so there's there's a little subtle thing about targeting 
where you can see where it actually goes live it's rabbit's good it's not moving and he goes okay right around herish is 
where it holds but actually much fire than I thought you 
were all right if I lock a guy it's much more generous it'll still drop him eventually but it takes longer and you 
get a more generous Circle armor so it's like I mostly want to fight this guy but I'm be like flailing around in combat 
probably not the rabbit but like someone else is a little tougher um might be one of dangerous rabbits sure it might be 
helpful to lock the Target or more more accurately like if there a bunch of guys you know I want I want that guy in the 
middle that that dude specifically then you could lock them and most of your attacks are going to end up on that guy 
because he's going to be the one that's picked out of all hover targets also it's a good point um so Auto targeting has this sort of hello um Auto targeting 
has this kind of stigma lot players like this is awful mostly I think it mostly comes from the uh movement skill thing 
or just like picking guys behind you kind of weird just run around circles um be entertaining 
uh and so it already is so much yeah and so Auto targeting does work differently 
if you if you are using this action camera mode other targeting using it's basically like Mouse hover it's heavily 
modified but it is basically Mouse hover be like if I was doing this oh I'm so slow um so it's it's different it's 
better for real Zeus guys you can use it it's safe there's a bear hello he's a bear 
he's a bear all right uh that really F bear point is uh so yeah you can lock a 
guy and make it so that he has higher priority in in in a pile of bodies if you need or you can like I just want to 
keep tabs on this guy so like I I like to keep tabs on the salmon while I'm running around you doing things and so 
you will still Target other stuff like this deer I'll shoot the deer but I'm still watching watching this there we go 
there's my mouse pointer that's what I wanted all right so that's that part of 
it um so okay but then there going to be people like that's nice what I really like to do is play Skyrim again 
especially like at the nice landfall setting here and like I I just want to play Skyrim so Skyrim does not really 
have Auto targeting so what we do is just turn it off and 
now is is it really that fun I'm not really trying here but you're just 
naturally incredible all right cool that's that's reassuring that's a little weird um and so now nothing locks right 
right we don't have we don't get this like Target think Buzz this passes deer boom like be afraid 
deer I'm not actually hitting deer's like whatever it's like I don't you've killed 
my entire family I have nothing left to live for what what do you expect from a deer like I mean they're they're 
deer but what you can what you can do is if it so this came from like 
um so John Peters like this feature a lot back before he betrayed us and ran 
away traitor uh you need a moment that's fine um and 
so he liked to do is he likeed to play without targeting off but he would lock targets and so he's like I want this guy 
and so he can lock him and then he'll do all the all the normal targeting stuff but if you don't lock him it won't 
so that's another if you want to play that way go for it I like it that's uh you want to play first person absolutely 
you can do that 
too the serious trouble with this de so onch oh 
there we go too late he's like go hey I'm on fire all right so 
um I think that's the gist of it I can't there's not a whole lot more on the 
that's tons it's a lot I'm sorry dolphy um and uh so yeah it's it's one of those 
things where um I have been working on this a long time mhm and there's more I 
I touched the mic I should not touch the mic sorry I'll slap your hand away next time yeah didn't even think about it you're too quick uh and there have been 
features that have gone in that have sort of hinted at it honestly the strings have been in the 
DAT file for a long time you guys have been playing with this and you just didn't realize something like that um 
like either Shaman is a saint or he just didn't know this but I'll give him the 
benefit of the doubt and just say yeah I know what this is and I just want to tell anybody so thanks so what did you put in game already so features that 
have been visible though uh so camera offsets those are mine these went back 
back in March so you have this horizontal position is like that's weird why would you want a horizontal position like well because I want to do over the 
shoulder cross everything that reminds me another thing I want to show um yeah so noce I'm not centered and that's 
because I sure like being able to do this kind of nice it'ss a lot well third 
person shooter going to sit over the the shoulders and this vertical offset if you notice 
as I zoom out just kind and originally that was just going to be for for action camera 
stuff and I need so something most people don't think about I keep reminding myself stuff on a show too um 
if I want to Target something ahead of me and I'm looking down it is bad news if the Crosshair just stays like this 
because I'm going to shoot at my feet I'm not going to be able to you know hit anything in front of me so what you need 
is you need to gain some distance oh this going run it but like this distance here is critical yeah and so one of the 
ways that one of the ways that's accomplished is uh you do this set this vertical position far you just crank 
that as high as you're comfortable with and so at the time in March it it just looked like okay well all we're trying 
to do is get the camera up off the ground so as you zoom out you don't end up with this super low angle right 
you're just looking at the side of that rock let me turn it off there we go that we don't want that 
cuz that I mean you get this like really stretch textur when you're close to the ground doesn't look very good so one is that CU 
really what we care about we care about it's up up here uhuh and not what's down here so this gives you a lot more usable 
space up here so that was the justification for the time um but secretly it was actually an action 
camera feature that just nobody knew all right uh there have been some leaks but 
I guess we that's like the next segment so let's not do that I'm I'm figuring this out as I go it's very extemporaneous couple other things 
people like okay ground targeted skills how do they work like well it's very simple they go right where your Crosser 
goes there we go also that is that is a very interesting ground T marker you know they did that and surprise there it 
is also um good the uh lock max range ground tget thing that's also mine you're welcome 
um but that was also largely intended for an action cam kind of thing where your mouse you can't easily move your 
mouse up you to specific spots it's like fine we'll just like having the max range to be good um I guess I actually 
shoot that not quite the head of mine um this 
one I thinket Mar 
hey um all right what else what else what else else oh yes okay so um couple 
more things so people like that's great but uh what if I don't have this what 
what if I don't want to bind alter some convenient key to this I just kind of want to turn it on leave it I don't want to deal with other stuff but I still 
would like to access I don't know my inventory my friends list for example right my real world commentary I have no 
friends sad um it's harsh game is this game is Just harsh man you're like okay 
so if you noce when I when I brought that up it automatically turned off my camera and when I closed it camera mode 
came back I didn't have to do anything else perfect and so basically he looking for any dialogs that pop up most dialogs that pop up and it'll shut it off but it 
remembers which ones active the last time you turn the camera on so I can go like you know I'd like to have my 
friends list up but I still like to play with this camera mode on CU I don't know reasons because because I don't know I'm 
not here to judge too much um and uh yeah so and then I can bring up another 
Dialogue on top of it I don't think I want to open my inventory because it's insane okay we do it real fast is this 
oh clean that up this is what happens when you like unlock you just like let's just do the DI command it gives you everything and 
it gives you everything yeah that's all right anyway but yeah so if you notice when I brought that up it turned it off 
controls and then when I closed it I don't know what happened we'll pretend it didn't happen and I'll go 
figure that out we can edit it out like we're going to edit out Josh's stuff later this is fine we're all we're all fine here no how are you I am so great 
right now good all right um I think that covers all the action camera stuff 
though I think they like but I'm not done there's more I've been doing this a long time I've been waiting to talk 
about this for basically a year I'm like looking down at my notes going but what about I've trying to ship this stuff for 
a long time you've put in a lot on this lot lot of ours so what's the more all right so um is that is that really is 
that really the next thing so so soon all right well in that case I know how I 
set this up um I go switch characters want to I don't know all right Yep this is the this is the next thing and this 
is the one that is going to make my life better face not yes so engineer characters like you know 
I use engineers and this sounds great null um but I use grenades and you know 
grenades are ground targeted or mortars in this case I'm like you know that's 
nice but you know you still got to like click and fire and click and fire click and fire it's like well that's great and 
all but it's really not that different from hitting one and you know one things haven't changed for anybody also quagan 
are like fireworks yeah it's like fireworks dangerous kids should stay away there's water it's fine safe insane 
rules man I just I just shot one um like okay look there's Babies I 
know I know they're they're Invincible it's fine that babies cannot be harmed um so they're like okay but but hold on 
what if I was using instant T now what might happen and the thing is if you 
hold down left click it just pushes one one one one one for you pretty much and so you go like this 
explosions explosions 
yes there we go I hope that there's a quag off to the right going fireworks 
kids fireworks so you're welcome engineer players hopefully this makes your life 
just a little better uh cuz you know I played engineer for went man this this really is 
actually really annoying so there you go this is that's really I 
want to show I mean while we're here you flamethrower is also about it's like 
fire I mean I Nam him this way for a reason um yeah so flame th same deal kind of but but but the good one is the 
M kit right just far away and uh I love instant ground targeting a all the time 
it's wonderful because explosions because explosions like I I don't I don't need to put up this like push the button over and over again it's just 
like it's fire all right that's Engineers uh that was great 
but there's more but wait but wait there's there's more my Reaper of 
Ls you have 3or you have the character it's an art in the programming Department to like come up with stupid 
pun names like it's it's a thing we do so here we are back wow so much stuff just got oh my God why did you why did 
you tag me I will I will I will end you all right fine 
so the thing about Reaper is um they're really good like really 
really good just this is not related to Features but oh my gosh so we've been doing play testing right a little bit 
yes just just just a bit and uh I've been playing mostly Reaper and holy crap 
just really good like there they they just seem unfair but you know what like they got okay the ship so like here we 
go it's happening uh so necr play you're a good place I'm just going to go 
you're you're in a good place don't worry all right so don't worry but the thing is staff so how about that necro 
staff so whenever I was playing necro be like you know staff seems like it's probably pretty 
good but all skills are ground targeted and um that's annoying cuz it's 
like ah I can't be bothered to like ground Target stuff it's like you know what all I really want to do is just 
have the ground targeted skill cast on the dude I'm shooting at that's that's really all I want I don't need 
the precise aiming I'm not like playing PVP or something day I'm playing PVP I just don't care you don't even know at 
this point um it doesn't you know it's like just just just get mostly there so 
it's like well what if what if I did do that um and so there this fancy little thing get to the last one a second 
it will [Music] be oh I have I volunteering on I know 
the girls were like I'm going to kill you I volunteer I'm going to kill you all right there we go and so now it's 
like okay you know what I'm just going to cast it there and you just kind of far away I 
don't really need to aim that precisely it just works and back we're all going to die 
Does anybody else just want to sit down and play the game with Joel for hours I I don't know I kind of hello hello tget 
um all right let's this guy did that just say you have helped the girl I that 
seems like the opposite of help I I'm helping um so oh my so where this actually came 
from uh this came from an alpha suggestion where uh so I said it was my idea but really wasn't it was actually from the alphas they were like okay so 
action camera is great and all we point at the dude and shoot at like his body but then we have to use ground Target 
skill and we have to look down at his feet especially like a tall T there's you know some like giant or something and 
uh that you have to do like this this and that's really annoying like we're lazy we don't want to deal with that um 
and so like well what if there's just an option to like put the ground Target at the feet it's like that's a great idea I 
would actually like that all the time um so this just kind of happened and uh it's great it's it's really nice I'm so 
I'm so lazy and it's wonderful just kind ofun and does the does the things but okay so let's say this like I want this 
most of the time but there are occasions especially if you're using like you know Murder kit or something with a really 
slow projectile uh it's like yeah I actually do need to lead the Target in this situation but most of the time I 
want it on and I don't want to have to open up the options menu and click this little check box 
before I go like in the middle of combat or something that's stupid so there's another thing this keybind 
here snap ground Target what this actually does this one one the bottom fin is it is an inverse so if I have it 
on normally and I hold this thing down it turns it off if I have it off normally and I hold this turns it on I B 
to T because I couldn't figure out what key I wanted but I just need to show it so to show this I should probably turn 
on actual ground like some visible indicator so let's see okay see how it's 
lock to this guy is also pretty useful just visualizing hello on this guy and I hold on and this 
let go [Music] 
you go that's all that does oh that's enough 
and over [Laughter] 
here okay anyway yeah so SN that's snap gr targeting it's really nice I I use it 
all the time I usually just like you let's like switch to staff and just kind of roll across the keyboards with all the marks you make 
the noise I do it's very important that is that is what makes it stronger is oh dear all right I'm supposed to be 
keeping us on track and I've been waiting entertained it's like one it's like 140 so and we have more stuff to 
talk about so what else you got there okay so there is honestly it's easy to talk about but it's very complex um 
internally why lady slil her uh her pets beorn and stolas be 
great um I use barag Gorn on live and borr it's fantastic 
um it's it's what I do actually my pet is gone you're oh I see because we're probably not there he is you're good 
that's the wrong pet he's okay here's beor let's run with beorn old classic Bebo stuff and so we're like 
okay secret discussions going on in the background here um and so like okay you 
know it would be nice I think Link's like I have work to do yeah I know it's must must talk uh okay is I would like 
to be able to say I'm attacking a guy and he dies or something like that or 
I'm attacking a guy and I don't actually want to attack that guy or I'm attacking a guy and he like you know I actually want to attack that guy over there and I 
should be able to just switch in the middle of the skill yes that would be very nice I would like that very much 
because this thing died and I yeah for I I don't want to blow the rest of my skill on this it's like and some frogs 
okay okay here's the final thing allow skill retargeting click the 
button what did I even write there sure okay okay if you don't know we're 
all in a lot I know I I I wrote something I was like surely editing will change it and probably didn't like as 
fine words are fine you're good at words um which is a lies but I'm happy they 
believe it so what what'll happen is when a skill is going on it has like for example skill two is a great example 
that's why I use to Ranger um it has a bunch of attacks that execute and so it'll say is okay at every point before 
the execute we will like essentially reeval Val which Target you would like so the client says I sure would like to 
shoot this guy now and so the Ser says okay well uh we are in the middle of this execute 
right but next but next execute I'm happy to change it for you unless it's early enough in the process that it's 
like now we can change it now so sometimes it won't happen until the attack goes off sometimes it'll wait so for example let's see if I can do this 
on two frogs frogs like and it's like you know this I start on this guy and 
end on that guy who's now dead or and my bear was like I'm I'll help 
you shoot that like you know what I would like to so confused shoot this 
green MOA and then switch to the yeton because let's say he was actually almost dead even though he's 
not like like like do the classic barow knock back it's actually kind of 
appropriate here and so basically the reason why this is important for action camera 
specifically is do he died I'm like I want that one so you can still reclaim some of your 
skill the reason why it's important for actually camera is um you the expectation is that I'm going 
to fire basically at my crossair M and so it is very strange when there's a guy off to the side who I start shooting at 
and then I turn look this way but I'm still shooting that guy and so if I say you know what I can actually switch to 
that guy now you don't have to like turn all targeting off you don't have to just manually aim it you can say yeah we'll 
like intelligently help you the thing and so it's easy to show it is 
complicated internally but it works you have a lot into this so there's a lot to 
talk about there is there is much many plus it was really really fun so many many stories it's all good uh i' I've 
forgotten what else we're GNA talk about but that is I think you covered everything I don't have anything I I hope I covered everything um I expect 
there will be questions I have nothing else mostly right now there's just wild praise so good job all right so 
so that's action cam and we have one more thing coming up so we will be back 
I will let you get back to work thank you thank you thank you pretty sure I'm thanking you on behalf of everybody watching right now and you're welcome 
everybody who is uh you know who wants to kill deer yeah yeah it's it's a thing 
we do we will be back in a couple of 
minutes 
oh 
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welcome back top that seriously Joel Still the rof joke of 
good luck all right so we are going to talk a little bit about Guild halls and just to preface this let me explain why 
I'm I asked lincol Dar to come do this um my guild on my personal account I'm sure a lot of guilds are doing this 
they're trying to decide which one are we going to go claim so my guildies were asking me all right but what do we how 
do we go see you know how do we go see the guild halls and I started trying to explain it and I said okay if you go 
back to this episode of points of interest from back in June and if you skip ahead to like 23 minutes you you 
can see link and I showing this off and then if you want to see the other one you go to this episode of Guild chat 
from this date and you skip ahead and I decided that was completely ridiculous and we needed a side-by-side 
comparison also um Dar thinks lost precipice no I'm sorry Dar thinks gilded 
Hollow is better and she's wrong no no I'll have to uh Guild trip you here 
about what is the appropriate hul I don't even feel a little bit bad 
not even in sorry and day out you think it's funny day in and day 
out I make him holler can I get like a scoreboard 
where's Lindsay's whiteboard why didn't she leave this here we could just be like a pun counter it's amazing so we 
also have things for you all the we can distract you with apple things that's true right yes yes okay so we're here to 
show why lost precipice is better uh is that what we're here to show Ruby 
is that it is in my world so all right let's start with is this Dar on the left 
yes all right let's take a look at yours first what change that message of the 
day [Laughter] 
now well you guys didn't let me set up my own Guild I would totally let you set 
up your own Guild that is 
whatever all right I am so done today all right so we talked about the 
themes of each of the hall and I really like how link described them so I will let either I'm just like rocks are falling 
over there um yeah so what's the theme behind lost precipice what are we kind 
of what's the overall feel so I think it can best be encapsulated by uh the 
statement you can fly yes uh the Lost precipice is just um as I've mentioned 
before an absolute Love Letter to uh gliding and cliff diving and just see 
it's good running to high places appreciating The View and then dropping yourself from them um it's a lot of fun 
and gilded Hollow I think the best way to characterize gilded Hollow I realized it 
the other day I was so mad when you said this yeah so if I had to like uh say one 
sentence about the Gilded Hollow it would be bigger on the inside uh like the Gilded Hollow is just 
this immense Majestic space uh all of the buildings in the Gilded Hollow are 
kind of bigger than the ones in the Lost precipice um and it's just a a Titanic 
Titanic Cavern now you guys had when you said about the buildings being bigger you and dar had like this enormous 
argument about whether is that the case or do they just feel bigger gilded Hollow is definitely 
better with the building no they're definitely bigger actually wait I'm going so uh I think some of the some of 
the buildings are definitely bigger dar's going I can fly too uh the workshop in the Gilded Hollow notably 
sploosh well that was a good try I can swim too you can fly and swim I'll tell 
you what let's start so link is having technical difficulties yeah well you're not but 
yeah you're actually going to need to like reboot that machine so we'll start with gilded Hollow the universe is 
conspiring against me to show off gilded Hollow it's just Universe recognizes the 
universal truth okay which is that the Gilded Hollow is for the Gilded because 
it is just by definition the Gilded true story The pun Guild 
Hollow totally unintentional right we were trying was like sure it was we were 
trying to think of names for for this map and uh like it was originally the Subterranean sanctum which was kind of 
bland yeah and so you know it had this like golden uh massive Cavern thing 
going on I mean it's a hole in the ground for example uh yeah and so uh I 
don't know just it came out at one point like oh like it's like gilded right like it's covered in gold and it's a hollow 
so so can we look at this Dar I don't know what order you want to do in so I'm being very careful but ha so the crystal 
chamber I'm going to call that a yes gorgeous yes do we want to tell them a bit about the crystal chamber um let's 
not spoil any of the cool things about the Crystal but uh them a little 
uh it's in both if you want to talk about it it it is in both um 
but but uh oh sorry guys we're fixing we're fixing technical difficulty 
messages issues while we well not all of his issues but some of them all right so 
who wants to fix that and who wants to tell us about Crystal Cavern so the crystal chamber is kind of 
um set up to be like the uh meeting space for your guild like both of them 
have kind of this raised platform um and uh the crystal is also the way that you 
like uh claim the Guild in the first place so it's sort of like the central symbol of your connection to the place 
um and the Crystal chamber in the Gilded Hollow is like a living painting like it's just it is gorgeous ridiculous how 
beautiful it is um particularly you should back up there like back from the entrance like it's just so nicely framed 
um our map AR Jesse who you guys met previously like absolutely outed himself on this map um can we pan up a little 
bit wow and well there's that it just keeps 
going all right so could we Dar are you able to switch Guild Halls could we do 
if linkx thing is still acting up could we you don't have to do it right now no 
but could we go through gilded Hollow first and then Los Presa second yeah we can if you want is that cool yeah do you 
want to take them on the tour of maybe some of the tunnels and some of the building so Dar you can roam free oh 
yeah I have a list of things I want to see but all right so are we close to the 
arena I have not gotten good at navigating this so the arena 
is near the central Waypoint actually everything is really centered around our 
Central waypoints so you have your Arena building you have your Workshop building you have your Tavern building you have 
your War Room building and you have your Market building and your mine is way over here and so they will all be nicely 
even spaced um away from that central wayp point that you guys are going to be using when you enter the hall and so 
what we're going to do here still a good size it's not enormously spread out though this beautiful structure here 
that is totally Superior in every way to the other Hall is the arena building it 
is not just a single layer building it is a two layer building so there is two 
stories to this delightful golden structure of Glory just turn off your mic pass back here 
and so we take the Waypoint or the portal up I should say and get to be 
brought up into the viewing area for the arena building and our Guild emblem will be 
displayed proudly upon all of these glorious Flags in this glorious building 
that's not L heart tacular oh I heart him so it's it's my emblem is the is the 
hard that all right oh man all right so I do have to 
say this one this is the one if you're in here for gvg this is going to be your friend I 
yeah I think the arena uh in the Gilded Hollow has just better sight lines for gvg um it's a cleaner layout um we'll 
take a look at the one in the L precipice here in a little bit um but the layout of the L precipice uh arena 
is more of a kind of Greco Ro style Coliseum um which is cool like very 
flavorful but the sight lines are not quite as clear um so I think it's much more about like having that sort of 
fantasy experience of like combat and gladiatorial uh 
battling it looks good all right so you have that big flat open space that you can play around with 
and yes it is glorious it's all very shiny it is oh yes my inner scrit rejoices I mean I guess it's I guess 
it's fine whatever another cool thing about the uh the arena here is those markings on the floor of the oh God uh 
the markings on the floor of the Arena proper like uh provide a nice kind of um 
sense of perspective about how much of the space you're using um if you want to have you know more like a one-on-one duel and like restrict that to a smaller 
portion of the space those rings are really helpful um it's not quite as clearly delineated in in the L precipice 
H um here we are it is super super shiny yeah 
all right so let's have you can go full screen and make your chat tiny so we don't obscure too much because we want 
to see as much of this glorious Guild Hall as is humanly possible not as glorious mine's better 
okay yours is just shiny there's just a lot of spray 
paint all right so it's called 
gilding I'm just so uh I just I got nothing 
so there is something that I haven't seen that I do have to admit is pretty cool about gilded Hollow and there are 
like some tunnels yes that D could maybe show 
us D like so beautiful can't help 
it so we do have a special little element inside of the gild of Hollows 
that was put in by Jesse who you guys have met on our stream 
before and um yes I am gliding hold on gling this is our pirate 
ship not just any pirate ship but a pirate ship that has 
loot gold you can't plunder you cannot plunder we can guard it certainly and 
you can go inside the ship if you so desire yeah I didn't actually know about this yeah surprise yeah yeah there's 
sorry so many no no no there's just so many details I can get up here Jess you help me get up 
earlier oh looks like that's just oh well there we go too bad let's look at something else oh what why would you 
want to do that dude you want to ship this hul H yeah oh 
D can you do something with her after well you've been trying haven't you trying I I uh he's getting to the point 
where he's he just cries I 
Endure I forbear I struggle and carry 
on yeah uh no Dara is is amazing amazing QA she is and she makes 
fun she's jumping into the wall again she's testing it I didn't realize this 
was like a little mini jumping puzzle awesome this is pretty cool and then you can go down into the 
hole but if you want to see what's in the hole that is an enormous Shield oh 
yeah so this is one of those uh crafted yep Shields that you guys are going to be able to make it's the guild Holo yep 
so the Gilded Holo has um the opportunity to drop certain um materials 
and it will go into a recipe that makes specific weapons to your guild for your 
guild and um if you have the guild Hollow the toris is going to be what you can get and if you have Heights uh if 
you have less precipice you will be able to get the um the shimmering 
yay thank you uh the shimmering is way better I feel like I have to just 
represent Miss man uh I think we mean 
[Music] Gloom uh oh my gosh so how does it it 
has a chance to drop the materials how um like and hope for the best or we 
actually have uh in the workshop you have the ability to upgrade the uh the 
hall that you own uh to have nodes harvesting nodes and as you harvest from those noes there's the opportunity that 
you might get one of those things I believe it's specifically the or node uh there're these funky resource 
synthesizers they're not like normal nodes they have a chance to drop different tiers of materials um yeah 
normal nodes have never done that for me I've never gotten cool stuff to make a weapon high five other than the normal 
all right so that's our sunken pirate ship and and we were on our way to a tunnel I'm very sorry oh you're in it 
wait we're we're already having tunnel vision right now you have to sit by her when does the 
hurting stop the only gets worse the closer we get to 
Lun the madness seven days no seriously stop saying 
that yeah things are getting hot we go so yeah in the tunnel area we 
actually the underground water passages lead into a lot of different rooms that you guys can claim for yourselves should 
you desire I know a lot of people are very interested in having their own little spaces to live in um also because 
this water is shallow right here um you can actually decorate in the water so if you want to have uh fun stories going on 
about maybe your downstairs got flooded that's what comes to your mind 
when you're like fun story it's like a never ending pool party or like my brain was going dude dude or 
like wait zoom out go back into third person view because everybody's going to get seasick what a I'm sorry guys there 
we go b anyway never ending pool party in the 
depths ofing pool awfulness he is so has 
singing uh they both have singing actually so yes we do have a lot of nice 
underwater uh channels and tunnels that you can take to explore this aquafer 
yeah the giant aquafer yeah I mean the water in the Gilded Hollow is pretty 
good I guess it's whatever it's not like it's a giant 
river flowing through an amazing hidden Canyon on the Borderland of the Muma 
you know I like a guild that needs to just go with the flow all the time and 
with that lost precipice all right so the Lost precipice uh I I want to say 
the very coolest a coolest thing about the Lost precipice one of the coolest things about so many cool things the 
moment you get here right away you can 
fly never not be flying the Lost precipice now we're talking and look how beautiful that is 
it's just immense just immense there's so much of 
it to see and a bunch of balloons that Dara decorated it with it wasn't me 
wasn't it you no oh okay I did Fountain Mountain the fcon mountain oh yes that's 
right you came like with that denial very quickly I'm oh I have I have better 
taste I like my fountains over my balloons so a bunch of the like an epic 
birthday party in the Guild Hall high five uh decorations that have been placed by uh some of us like Thou shalt 
not pass I okay I know you did that go through the other side oh really yeah 
okay this there's just enough space troll your friends oh it's Colin 
hi Colin that's hilarious hey Colin what's up uh what's up 
Colin Uh Oh I thought you jumped all right excuse me lost PR precipice comes 
with Colin never oh no boom yeah Colin you're 
cheating I love that this is a competition to you I love my children equally because 
my guilt is in a vote right now and they're doing it wrong oh you know what's really fun not just flying but 
soaring yeah ah I'm like a Rocketeer flying up and blows in this 
place blows up look at how cool pretty 
cool way to go uh yeah so there's all these jump pads around um which is a really cool thing that McKenna ended up putting in um she was concerned that 
during the expedition that people just wouldn't be able to uh I sense Josh this 
is the mark of Josh always be trolling Josh uh here's some of those resource 
synthesizers um yeah uh she put in these uh drafts uh 
to allow uh players to to get around the different levels because the space is so crazy vertical um that if you didn't 
have it like there's no way you would be able to make it to all of the MS in a given wave in time so I do have to say 
that those jump pads are the source of my favorite bug that we found and ironed 
out oh I know this bug yes you were you in when we were testing Expedition we 
were testing claiming the Guild Hall the other day hit a jump pad deployed my GL 
and just shot into the stratosphere with no way to stop that was your bug thanks man y that made me 
so happy oh that was okay yeah there was nothing you could do you went so high you left the area and got kicked out 
fair enough and it was absolutely hysterically funny uh so this is the arena here in the G Hollow and as you 
can or sorry in the last press as you can see like it has this really Roman thing going on which is super cool um 
and the space on there you can actually get ringed out of it for a short drop into the water 
below um in general it's the same size as the one in the last precipice mhm but 
uh it does have a few columns that um olude it a little bit um so uh again oh 
hey so it's less straight line of sight and you've got more OB you've got more 
stuff to play around with I think it has more of a kind of fantasy feel to it right like uh the sense of kind of your 
your patricians up top like watching the blood sport games below um I think it's 
going to be really fun to play around in um but uh again like the sight lines 
aren't quite as clear here so I think if you're looking for like um really you know to get the best visibility on the 
battle of the guilded hollow has a much better Arena I'm really curious about something uh you had mentioned to me 
Ruby that your favorite thing no no no don't tell this story no oh can I not no 
fine so my my favorite thing is that you mentioned that um you were really 
excited because you had picked out are you going there now I don't know where it is I was going to ask you so there's 
all of these crazy um like dwellings built into the sides of the cliff uh 
which uh fun fact are apparently called cavates I believe that's how you pronounce it um how's it spelled c a v a 
t e H yeah um we we briefly considered uh Seth was actually advocating that we 
call it like uh what the the cavate like cavate Canyon or like cavate Cliffs 
something like that I like lost precipice yeah I like lost precius too that was ultimately his idea as well can 
the balloons come in different colors yeah they do that's and both Guild Halls have the same you have the same 
decorations available yes I was really hoping that was the right thing to ask and you have both Guild Halls have the 
same fun functionality you're not gaining you're losing anything in what they do and what they offer so that's 
true in terms of like upgrades right so like for instance both of the uh Arenas offer you the uh ring out barrier 
upgrade that uh you can uh deploy so that you don't get knocked out of the Arena um but uh that that said like the 
two do have a very different character they're not um they feel very different to go and get um the Gilded Hollow is is 
deeper in the jungle than um than the last precipice deeper in the ground um that's certainly true uh there's just uh 
it's well grounded the I'm not sorry anymore the Gilded Hollow is uh is again 
like an immense space whereas the spaces in the Lost precipice aside from kind of the big open like Canyon um are a lot 
tighter um but it it almost has this kind of like like David Bowie Labyrinth 
eseres oh that's right steroid maze thing going on which um I really love so 
I have to say like personally right uh I was really into the guilded hollow for a long time because that was the first map 
that we like put uh work into and so you know we just spent a lot of time um 
getting everything working in there um whereas uh the last precipice we came to 
Second and so I had really already developed a fondness for the Guild of hollow or yeah by the time um we were 
here in the precipice but um The more I've been running around I have to say like it's really fun and there's just oh 
there's a there's that statue Dar was telling you about oh the cat gu yeah 
spoilers uh I'm sorry to interrupt I found it and got all excited darl was like there's this cat God and I'm like 
what I've not seen this and I've like run around there totally a cat we're like okay Dar yeah honey only you can 
see that yeah right and like no it's there but like it's subtle um Jesse who 
put it in noted like not everyone is going to see it um but now everyone has seen it there's another thing in there 
too apparently really oh yeah do I know about this thing I'd rather not say okay that's fair can you tell me later yes 
thank you um I mean there's there's lots of little things to discover secret stairways like at this point I'm I'm 
somewhat of a pro of navigating around like the crazy stairway maze uh that is the Los ppus but um so the way I the way 
I found those I just kept going I kept taking stairs until I couldn't find any more stairs to take and nice so however 
if you want to find it here's a brief stop off at the uh Crystal chamber um 
and the Crystal chamber seems to have grown or the crystal uh has grown a bit uh that's a Crystal's bigger that's a 
thing uh and uh yes so wait how do I get to the place that you're going to to the 
left okay so it's on the the East Side um I just saw like a big rock face and thought maybe that was it I don't know 
the do you know like where on the map it is so I started at the central way point yep and then I just looked for stairs 
and started running upstairs so whatever the closest stairs are we're uh to the central wayp point I mean they're 
equidistant then start going up I probably would have gone I probably would have gone to my left left okay 
left but while he's looking for this the the thing that I was happy about I don't know is it funnier if you tell it uh no 
no no please by okay so I'm really excited about finding a little corner of the Guild Hall to make my own especially 
because there are Guild decorations you can decorate your guild Hall and just making this is my little space and there 
are so many little cubby holes yeah that you can have in Los precipice that 
aren't flooded I mean flooded tunnels are pretty cool you know I totally want to 
put a bed and a table down there but right you know oh they Flo away again oh no if you want to keep it uh oh no I 
well that there's at least we don't fall to our death all the time that's no you're busy 
drowning true technically true okay so uh and 
then like crazy stairways yeah I like the stairway mazes yeah it's super fun and there there's 
like so many hidden little places out here it's really nuts um you're you're not helping my cause by getting lost 
this is not you didn't you weren't going to claim this were you no but look there's another place that wait what is 
this this this is where um this is where Sarah hangs out so each of the The Guild Halls has uh an Explorer right there the 
person who had like scouted this place out for the initiative and you like talk to them in the office uh and then mount 
an expedition with them um after you like take the hall they actually like take up residents in your map um and 
they're here to kind of answer some questions for you um they don't do a ton yet but but as long as she's doing some 
stuff and is sort of useful yeah all right can we can you turn around and show me that again yes all right yeah 
um any of you that are my guildies watching this that I'm 
dibs uh that's awesome don't don't take that space why not this space reserved 
for future use I will be mad later huh okay yo but I really like it and I can 
move my stuff later oh crazy Temple that's it that one oh 
that's the one yeah oh okay second one down first to the left here this one 
that one okay that's the one I picked out before I saw that Temple but now if it's a bad 
idea wait for it wait for 
yeah man glad is so much fun that was one of my strategies for one of Byron's 
Adventures that I was testing the other day oh yeah that is my little cubby hole right here yep that's not a little cubby 
hole you you've got some pretty grandio you know in the well yes room with a view in the grand scheme of the Guild 
Hall it's pretty small I mean that's true want to be greedy amazing but yes 
all right so here is you can have a downstairs neighbor my question no nobody can oh you get a two-story house 
all to yourself it's not at all lonely all right so we've spent like a ton of time 
going and this is the place where I want to live in my Guild Hall but here's my thing um there's something that you put 
in the L precipice that will rival the sunken Pirates for your RP friends uh that is true can 
we see it yet um tell you what uh if you can uh cut away for a moment Mark while 
I I guess we can look at this thing uh yeah this is a cool space uh one moment 
we're going to we're going to have some oh are you are you going to I just well it's you told me I couldn't show my area 
no no no no I'm showing the market okay yeah he's not going to that place that we s yeah yeah what place what place 
that we would there is no place so we couldn't possibly the the first rule about Guild 
Club is we don't talk about Gil Club no we always talk about Gil Club the second 
rule is we don't talk about the secret place um but 
someday let's stare at him and make him screw up these commands so yeah right 
while he's doing that I can show off um the portal area which you guys actually got to see a little bit in our trailer 
and uh the portal is where the guild gets to go together um at about level 10 
you might take the opportunity to get this upgrade and in the guild Hollow you 
will actually come to this area once you've made the upgrade and you'll be able to interact with the Portal Device 
and if your guild has um several permissions you can set it so only 
certain members can do this but you can pick like say your mission that you all want to do and you can say yo Guild 
let's do this you have to do it exactly like that portal and then you're like oh yeah you like jump through just like 
that seriously have to do it exactly like that and you go through and you're sent all to the same map there's a 
transformation sequence and you all like shout out your colors yeah look a whole like power Eng 
thing like no okay not not actually uh I was going to the voltra 
place but that let me let me get to I'm a child of the the '90s I guess yeah 
'90s oh old people woohoo 
yeah oh no my wayn point was contested oh too bad but you know I think we would go back to my my fair and well Guild oh 
dear okay so uh feel free to cut back to me now are we there yet L here we are 
running conspicuously keeping our camera away from the thing and that's right 
getting past the troll barrier getting past the troll who did this Josh almost 
certainly Josh okay so we'll talk yeah so I have this uh this this ex Guild of 
mine um some friends that I used to hang out with when I had more time do you not hang out with them anymore because they 
filled your guild Hall with pillars uh no no they just they're awesome well we had these really long discussions about 
the different pillars of guilds uh God there's only six of them Dara you 
have to sit by her every day uh yeah so um I want to sit by Dar 
when uh Jesse was putting together uh the market for the uh for the last precipice um he ended up adding this 
thing uh that I was super thrilled about because uh my friends um have an RP 
Guild that um their story involves them having uh commandeered an Airship uh or 
I'm not sure if they Commander it but have gained possession of an Airship and so gained possession of it it fell off 
the back of a truck clearly uh and so I thought it was super cool uh that Jesse actually added a fullsize Airship to uh 
the market when it's completed so that you can go and uh well do whatever you 
want with this space hang out host Airship parties um as you do like you do 
I mean you know at least like all the cool people do 
uh all the cool people with the coolest Guild Hall yeah actually I love them 
both I really do yeah and you know we're being mean and we're ganging up on poor D it's okay I happen to know mine is 
better and you're very confident in your in your M is betterness so I'm going to I'm going to spoil something for our 
friends the players probably me too Dara and uh and and McKenna and I made an 
informal bet about oh that's right who who uh which which Guild Hall uh would 
would see the most occupation right like which Guild Hall would people want the most um and so Dara has an agenda though 
she does actually like gilded Hollow better uh she she wants you to love it 
so here's my question is this how many guilds or how many people how many 
guilds guilds all right yep um so just curious you know I 
can't I'm trying to think of a bribe I can offer people yeah I so I I thought 
that um most of us on the team actually are like uh gilded Hall is where it's at for 
us we really like the buildings um I we have apple juice not just apples here in 
the Gilded h [Laughter] you 
uh that's fair I've got I've got nothing man it's it was L night I have skull 
salt and pepper shakers that's about it oh for that moment when you feel salty it's pepper uh link is salty let's let's 
try a thing evil be we sprinkle a salt around maybe if I 
put a salt circle around Dara's chair then uh puns will get even better 
they'll get saltier oh I like the puns so I think I think 
that's the appropriate response of right like you have to follow up the bad pun with like your own like even worse one 
whereas Dara like Dara just appreciates the like the pain right like she's looking to harvest your groans I assume 
she takes home some people are sustained by Tears I'm sustained by groans all 
right so here's a thing that I did not tell you guys what that I was going to do but this has been like the longest 
Guild chat ever and granted there haven't been that many but still uh we have a side by-side cam you guys have two minutes to show us 
all the coolest things in your gu hole oh god I've do that since set go coolest 
thing race awesome God Rays come out the 
ceiling you can't yell about it what I don't know I just made that up just now wow you're like setting the rules as we 
play clearly R like 
it's not makes it sound like there's not much going on all right here we go this is my favorite new place in the Lost 
precipice I personally love to just have a reflective moment out here on this 
weird little platform in space and you can like what is that even for it's like a Costco palette you can read a book 
it's for lifting Stone out of the the mine we got a kickass bar I'm sitting on 
a bent nail here in the middle really not sing this and you can glide forever 
I'm just we have a great car I'm sitting on a 
pil um don't make me concede this link my bar has epic water 
fountains uh that's true that bar does have EP I don't have people are totally going to get drunk and pee in that 
so yeah that's that's pretty much going to happen try to help you out here L thanks 
uh let me and we have a really sweet war room oh my gosh Mark says there's a chat poll do we have oh 
sweet okay let the bent nail be stricken from the rec our room has a really 
awesome Gold T PR is winning okay wait oh awesome okay here we go we're going 
to we're going to H if I didn't stink at this yeah I'm like oh keep going keep 
going oh yeah keep going is so much longer than 2 minutes and I don't care and pirate 
ships and you have some pretty waterfalls you know and broken you should totally like celebrate and we got 
shrooms guys we got shrooms well suddenly everything makes 
sense that's true yeah actually so I guess I should mention that the uh cool jump pads here are not bouncing 
mushrooms which means you don't need the bouncing mushroom Mastery to use them they they're gliding base 
yeah that's um pretty cool you know what L preus has won and I feel like that's a 
good note to end on awesome yay gilded Holo still amazing the gild beautiful 
shiny is so amazing uh the Gilded Hollow I will say the Gilded Hollow is at some level easier to decorate it has a lot 
more flat spaces where's the challeng it's got a lot of nice big open spaces 
for the larger decorations most Los precius Guild Halls do not have all of their flat spaces taken up by troll 
pillars just FYI that's a special feature just in thanksgiv not included with purchase troll 
pillars um oh my gosh you think that look at look at L precipice there I mean it's all the sand it's going to get all 
your stuff I mean G the H you're not going to do that so much mildew you see 
mildew it's all so shiny and beautiful oh by the way you have a pretty cool waterfall but man link these aren't bad 
either oh God wow those are pretty cool oh you know 
what link you there was one more thing you mentioned a huge Spire in the central area oh that that's like the the 
crystal so this is the central Spire do your buildings produce their own 
waterfalls I don't think so they're leaking it's true that the the liquid or 
the liquid pre the liquid precipice does not have interior Plumbing your own 
that's another danger for you it's not it's not built a top a lake it's built to top a moving River so you 
know uh it's something something fantasy something 
something thank you guys for watching thank you for voting for L pristas thank you guys so much thank you for having us 
can't wait for you guys to uh for you guys and girls to run around the Gilded Hollow and the last prus and uh let us 
know what you think one week till hard remember guys gilded is for the guild and lost is for people who don't 
lose or with the ppus of disaster
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Guild Chat, episode 19: ESL Pro League, legendaries, guild halls & camera changes on ArenaNet's official channel on YouTube
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