User talk:Sanna

Template:En dash

I deleted that template because it's not necessary. Just use the HTML entity – instead. —Dr Ishmael 22:00, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

I had added it because some people might not know the HTML entity name, or will simple use a hypen because that's easier to type. ~ Sanna 22:01, 1 January 2013 (UTC)

If people don't know the HTML entity, why would you expect them to know about the template? —Dr Ishmael 02:54, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

People remember the name of the character, which is exactly the name of the template, not the code. But I'll give it to you, let people remember this. ~ Sanna 03:50, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Template:Crafted set infobox

Weapon sets don't have any properties themselves. You don't need an infobox. Furthermore, it wouldn't be an infobox for a subcategory of weapon sets. Categories can be added either manually (Category:Destroyer weapons), in the weapon infobox ({{Weapon infobox}}), or in the template ({{Destroyer weapons nav}}). It would've been a good idea to propose the new template in Weapon formatting as its a pretty drastic change in formatting weapon sets. You've also added the crafted weapon sets category, which I'm not sure is useful since these items already get categorized into the Recipes category. That's something you'd want to discuss with other users as well instead of changing about 40 pages.--Relyk ~ talk > 03:30, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Categories should be added through infoboxes (not my rule) so I used one. Also handy to group wanted information like crafting levels. I furthermore tried to mimic the style of the Armor sets category, which was much better sorted. Plus, there were already good comments made about more detailed sorting. ~ Sanna 03:39, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Not all categories have to be added by infoboxes. I don't know where you got that rule from. —Dr Ishmael 03:48, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Someone who once deleted a template I made almost instantly with exactly that reason. ~ Sanna 03:51, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Using an infobox to automatically categorize articles is a good practice, but you don't create an infobox if it isn't there. Armor sets don't get categorized with an infobox either.--Relyk ~ talk > 04:03, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

OOOOOOhhh... In that case, an infobox already existed that the categorization should have been part of - there was no reason to have a second template that only did the categorization. In this case, there is no existing infobox, and categorization is probably the least important reason for creating one. —Dr Ishmael 04:07, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

I was hoping to use that particular deleted template for an infobox. Anyway, a good deletion reason was never given (except for "categorization should be done with infoboxes") so I do not know whether his intentions were like you described. To get back to this infobox: a (crafted) set is a whole different entity from a single item, with different properties. I've been thinking of this particular infobox for weeks, considering the messy the way these sets were currently sorted and categorized. I would love to see the template I built being part of a full Armor set template even. I do think it would be a good idea to put categories like Destroyer weapons in a template like {{Destroyer weapons nav}}, but navigation is missing for most of these sets. (I'd gladly build a couple, just not right now). I still stick by the thought that these general categories (like Crafted armor/weapon sets) are best added using an infobox. Manually added categories can quickly give a mess, or people forget a category. Hence I hope to see how my infobox and changes are received, because I think people generally will appreciate them. ~ Sanna 10:46, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

A weapon set doesn't have any properties, it's only a construct of the wiki. That's why you can't make a weapon set infobox. The discipline and crafting level is already set in the recipes template on individual weapons. On the weapon set article, you'd simply state the common crafting level and discipline for the weapons, as that information is already stated on the individual weapon pages.

To handle weapon and armor sets, you can simply put a parameter on the {{weapon infobox}} and {{armor infobox}} to associate that piece of equipment with a weapon set. For crafted weapons and armor, we already know which weapons and armor are crafted, hence we know which weapon and armor sets are crafted. What you should do instead is propose a Weapon set formatting page and comment on Projects/Category reorganization to get discussion going about fixing how weapon sets are categorized and formatted.--Relyk ~ talk > 13:45, 2 January 2013 (UTC)

Note(s) to self

Valiant Sanna ~ Sanna 20:06, 20 July 2014 (UTC)

stub npc

Is there a reason those pages should be stubs? If you keep going as you are, we'll have hundreds of NPC stubs. —Dr Ishmael 13:55, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

They already were stubs, I just moved them to NPC Stubs so the NPC team can more easily identify them. But it's more effort than it's worth, so I won't do it again. ~ Sanna 14:15, 24 August 2014 (UTC)

Skins

When adding skins to the infobox, use <weapon name> (skin), rather than just the weapon's name as it links to the weapon, not the skin. Good luck! --Ventriloquist 10:43, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Ok thanks, I will. That does give some red links though. ~ Sanna 10:44, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

As it should; I'll snatch them down and create the pages. Red links are good in this case, as it shows which skin needs to be created, so don't be afraid to leave some red blood in! --Ventriloquist 10:46, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

In that case, prepare to keep yourself busy ;-) ~ Sanna 10:48, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Alrighty! I went through all your recent weapon edits, and created the skin pages. I believe that's all of them, for now. If I missed some, by any chance, send them my way! --Ventriloquist 11:30, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

You might run into some red links later! I got the ones I wanted for now (unique skins for User:Sanna/Notes/Unique_skins). I'll make sure to edit those with missing skins. ~ Sanna 11:34, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Sounds great. Thanks for having the courage to tackle the many, MANY, messed up pages for PS weapons. I'll check back later to see if any more red links need creatin'. Good job! --Ventriloquist 11:36, 31 August 2014 (UTC)

Dialogue

Are you trying to phase out the repair template? It is very handy, since many NPCs all have the same dialogue. Tyndel (talk) 19:21, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

I'm not trying to phase it out. I used {{subst:dialogue/repair}} to substitute the text of the template into the page. ~ Sanna 19:24, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

just use the template as is imo, no need to subst - if it changes, they'll probably all change. -Chieftain Alex 19:26, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Seems the opinions are divided about this one (just discussed this on IRC too). I'll stick to using the template for now. ~ Sanna 19:30, 10 September 2014 (UTC)

Ryland's Footsteps

I'm just curious, i saw what you said there, what happened? DJemba (talk) 09:27, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

The item I received was a tier reward for the achievement, and I got that because I had killed some icebrood which dropped one of the collection items. Only noticed it later after posting the talk page entry. ~ Sanna 17:31, 19 May 2020 (UTC)

apology

It was not my intent to be ableist, though I do understand that intent doesn't really matter. I did not intend to be ableist and can only offer my sincere apologies. horrible | contribs 14:00, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

An apology is a start, though we're not there yet. You have a lot of energy and you really could've made a good point with the BLM discussion, I just hope you will use that energy in a different way next time. I have my own experiences of just being angry at everything and everyone, but in the end I always got the best results when just moving with the flow and trying a nicer approach (I will not deny it's hard though, even got a job coach at some point who gave me some pointers to reflect on). ~ Sanna 14:16, 13 June 2020 (UTC)

Please don't mistake my apology; it is solely for the ableism. I stand by everything else. Refusal to use the reach of the wiki to do something to acknowledge that racism is a problem that harms everyone is tacitly admitting that you like things as they are - systematic racism included. Silence is violence; I'd be happy to link some articles explaining that, if you'd like. horrible | contribs 17:51, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

There is no need to link anything, I have no been silent on this subject. Over the last years I've also locally advocated for (web) accessibility, female empowerment (especially in STEM-related male-dominated areas) regardless of sexuality or skin color, and tried to support several people with mental health issues by removing stigma. Racism itself is not a popular subject in my area as we have relatively little people of color here, but I spent my first years in a multicultural environment, and have also spoken out against several racist topics. I try to educate myself on privilege. All that without your help, and over the past few years. You have absolutely no right to tell me, or other people who have otherwise actively worked on making their world a better place for others, that we are doing nothing. And I have no desire to get into further discussion with you on this, because at this point I feel like it would be more useful to speak to a wall. ~ Sanna 18:55, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Well, there is the Zwarte Piet discussion. 77.165.250.227 19:21, 19 January 2021 (UTC)

Not Everyone Can Be a Pineapple

	Outstanding Orange
	Because your fuzzball signature will forever remind me of an orange! talk 22:54, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

...it's not an orange? —Idris 22:55, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

It's "Fuzzball", my very first Photoshop experiment from like ten years ago or so. It failed a bit as it should've been more fuzzy, but I got rather attached to it :D ~ Sanna 22:56, 20 June 2020 (UTC)

Also, thank you Inc, I think. (Rhyme on purpose) ~ Sanna 22:58, 20 June 2020 (UTC)