Talk:The Ruined City of Arah

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Five. Tsk, tsk. Lord Belar 20:42, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

Undead Dragon needs a name, how does Tul'armot sound? Foreboding and creepy enough??

Sounds like a name for a turtle. Cress Arvein User Cress Arvein sig.JPG 17:22, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Sea Of Sorrows[edit]

In this article it says that the Bay of Sirens was renamed the Sea of Sorrows because of the sinking of Orr but in Lore it says that the Bay of Sirens was renamed The Sea Of Sorrows because of all the ships that sank there. Unless anybody wants to fight the written lore somebody is going to change that tomorrow (it'll probably be me but, anyone else is free to change it before then. - Giant Nuker 00:33, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

The upswing in shipwrecks was implied to be a direct consequence of the Cataclysm, I believe. -- 02:57, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Less implication, and more stated. The sinking of Orr caused shipwrecks. It was renamed because of the shipwrecks caused by the sinking of Orr. -- Konig/talk 03:39, 30 August 2009 (UTC)
Actually, from the timeline: "Resurgent trade between Cantha and the devastated Tyrian kingdoms formalized in the Second Treaty of Lion's Arch. Bay of Sirens is renamed Sea of Sorrows after an upswing in shipwrecks." To me, that says more trade=more ships=more shipwrecks 15:25, 18 November 2009 (UTC)


U know how this is the City of the gods or whatever......Well it sounds alot like Alah...Am i the only one to notice?

1,its not the city of the gods.2,i do agree it sounds like alah.3,Nice to meet you. --Neil2250 , The Zoologist User Neil2250 sig icon5.jpg 16:10, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
Actually, Arah is the city of the gods, more or less. It is/was the capital of Orr, and was where the gods lived while on Tyria, and is called the city of the gods in a few locations in GW1's lore. -- Konig/talk 22:18, 9 February 2010 (UTC)
(Source plz?) i think your mixed up with "city who (harshly?) Worshiped thier gods" ? --Neil2250 , The Zoologist User Neil2250 sig icon5.jpg 15:45, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Also."...and is called the city of the gods..." --Neil2250 , The Zoologist User Neil2250 sig icon5.jpg 15:45, 11 February 2010 (UTC)
Being called the city of the gods is the same as being the city of the gods. Also: "But when the strife overflowed into armed conflict, and guilds from the other human nations began fighting in the streets of Arah, Orr rose to defend itself and the city of the gods." Arah is the city which the gods lived, and as such is called (thus is) the city of the gods. The quote is from the Prophecies Manual, which can be found here as well. -- Konig/talk 21:49, 11 February 2010 (UTC)


"...Vizier Khilbron, used magic buried in a vault deep beneath Arah and brought about the Cataclysm, destroying..."

Magic from the dragon i'll bet? --Neil2250 User Neil2250 sig icon5.png 17:18, 9 May 2010 (UTC)

Since when does a scroll connect to a dragon? Just because it was underneath Arah doesn't automatically connect it to Abaddon. Besides, it was later revealed the scroll was in fact in his quarters, not the Depths of Tyria. "The Vizier of Orr had a plan. A magic that would kill the Charr... No wait! We discovered that the Vizier had been corrupted by the God of Secrets! We found the forbidden books in his quarters! It's coming back to me now." gw1:Faded Memory. Also, considering the cataclysm tossed people into the realm designed to throw everything forgotten away, I'm going to guess the scrolls were connected to Abaddon or, more likely in my opinion, Dhuum. I wouldn't doubt Khilbron's appearance being altered by Zhaitan though. -- Konig/talk 18:14, 9 May 2010 (UTC)
Maybe Abbadon and Dhuum were secretly working together to release the dragons, hoping to to contain them and use them for their own purposes! ...Or maybe I've had too much caffeine. Oh well. Zolann The IrreverentUser Zolann The Irreverent Mysterious Summoning Stone.png 02:02, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
I don't think Abaddon (not Abbadon!) and Dhuum cared for the dragons. Both are imprisoned and Abaddon clearly wanted to break free, while Dhuum seems to want revenge along with breaking free. Dhuum was even said to be asleep so it isn't even sure that Dhuum himself was working with Abaddon, but rather that Dhuum's highest generals were. -- Konig/talk 02:27, 16 May 2010 (UTC)
Can someone add a link to Dhuum's generals? -- Slash, BURN!, Delete... 06:52, 7 June 2010 (UTC)
gw1:The Fury, gw1:The Four Horsemen, gw1:Emissary of Dhuum. Those are who I meant. Eight in all. -- Konig/talk 12:51, 7 June 2010 (UTC)

Concept Art?[edit]

Browsing around and I found this picture, presumably of some huge city. It looks far too industrial to be anywhere currently accessible in Guild Wars, even after a couple of hundred years ... Divinity's Reach still looks very medieval castle-style, and the image looks too bright and modern to be the Black Citadel, which looks like it'll adopt a more steam-powered theme. So maybe it is the city of Arah? I don't know; it looks comparable to the current Orrian concept art, but I would have expected it to look more ... godly. – NuclearDuckie 11:57, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Daniel wrote that this concept was not created to represent a particular GW location but rather "scale and energy of the environment". Chriskang 14:28, 18 June 2010 (UTC)

Known settlements[edit]


"settlement" is defined as "a community of people"

The undead minions of a Dragon fail to meet my definition of the word people. User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.jpg A F K When Needed 00:33, 25 July 2010 (UTC)

Don't be an undeadist. And we have dragons too, they're people right? EiveTalk 00:54, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
Using terms meant for reality is much different than using them in a fantasy context. Technically, people means humans generally. But in a fantasy context, does people mean humans or sentient beings? And if the former, does that mean settlements of other races are not settlements? Undead are generally sentient, though it is unknown for zhaitan's "undead" (I still don't think they're the typical kind of undead). -- Konig/talk 01:43, 25 July 2010 (UTC)
I would consider any of the playable races "people", but I wouldn't call a rotting corpse that.
It's a bit of a judgement call, and that's where I'd personally draw the line. User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.jpg A F K When Needed 22:29, 25 July 2010 (UTC)


Im not sure why, dont ask. I was reading Ghosts of Ascalon, Dougal is speaking of the Elder Dragons, and he says (and i quote:) "...Zhaitan, who rose in another place of power, from beneath Orr itself, and flooded Lion’s Arch and now makes its lair in the heart of the City of the Gods." The name Jerusalem(i realize i spelled it wrong) popped into my head. I almost see a crusade type (EDIT:thong to thing) thing going on here.....--User Necro Shea mo signature.jpg Necro Shea Mo 04:45, 28 April 2011 (UTC)

There's more than one religion in the world, last I checked. User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.jpg A F K When Needed 08:14, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
"a crusade type thong" I'd like to know what that is :P --you like that don't you..The Holy Dragons 14:18, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
Sexy yet modest underwear of the finest stolen silk. Felix Omni Signature.png 21:58, 28 April 2011 (UTC)
I'd like to know how you became aware of that... User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.jpg A F K When Needed 15:53, 29 April 2011 (UTC)

Separate Dungeon from City?[edit]

Right now, the article here gives mostly background and lore about the city of Arah, with a small conclusion that it is Zhaitan's base of operations. Then, we get a Note about how the unique gear from Arah (the dungeon) is acquired. I feel we should separate this page into Arah (city or some such) and Arah (dungeon). It's certainly going to be necessary later on when the dungeon is going to have lots of specific, technical information that doesn't help (and only hinders) those wanting to know more about the city in general. Thunderduck 00:10, 22 May 2012 (UTC)

I've been intending to do this for all dungeons. I went and made a prototype page at Ascalonian Catacombs, reformatting the two dungeon mode pages as well. Does that fit the kind of idea you had well enough? Konig/talk 07:52, 30 September 2012 (UTC)

Bug to enter this Dungeon[edit]

Ok, this is weird. But, when all my party try to enter this dungeon, we go to separate instances, and some even cant enter. Is this some kind of bug? or is there a special way to enter all together???? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Supermax (talkcontribs).

It's a known bug for all the dungeons, unfortunately. It's something the dev team has been looking at for a long time. 12:32, 7 October 2012 (UTC)
Only way to do it all together is enter without party 1 member and send invite to other. Bug is going from 2 or more ppl from 1 party by create their own dungeon realm then trying enter to dungeon through the door instead of by invitation only.

Most Bugged Online Game Dungeon Ever[edit]

Bugged entrance shows open if closed and vice-versa Requires multiple times bugged chain of quests There are at least 4 places on which the dungeon progress is bugged itself I have 3 characters that are leveled and able to go there ....but only have done it with one. Not because i didn't have time, not because i can't operate with my character but because anet can't move their ass and fix it.

Incorrect Lore[edit]

"was the home of the Six Gods and marks where they first arrived on Tyria from the Mists" It was originally the 5 true gods. Kormir ascended long after the cataclysm, after ending the Nightfall. : \ -- Magic User Magic Icon.jpg Talk 20:31, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Kormir replaced Abaddon, who was among the Six Gods before the Exodus - his imprisonment led to the Exodus itself, in fact. So its not incorrect. There have always been Six Gods, but knowledge of the sixth (Abaddon) was removed from records between 1 BE and 1075 AE leading history to claim there were five. Konig/talk 21:53, 16 December 2012 (UTC)

Need help[edit]

Anyone can confirm the the PoI Temple Guard exists within actual game build? I can't find appropriate ID. MalGalad 18:28, 31 March 2013 (UTC)

Need getting there section or notes[edit]

I came to the article to find out how to GET TO Arah (the dungeon) and all I can find is Lore, all of which is published elsewhere. What are the chances of someone who knows how to get to the dungeon adding that information?

I have recently put that information in the page for Victory or Death

Stop deleting the pages[edit]

I loaded several screenshots for some areas needing images and lore and now there gone, who is the jack ass who removed them can go **** himself The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talkcontribs) at 01:27, 30 August 2015‎ (UTC).

Example pages please? I can investigate why, but I need to know which pages you believe to be affected. From your contributions as your current IP I can't see anything: Special:Contributions/ -Chieftain AlexUser Chieftain Alex sig.png 10:28, 30 August 2015 (UTC)