Talk:Scarlet Briar

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"It is believed she was trained by the Six Gods"[edit]

Where is this stated? Just out of curiosity. I didn't find that line, just the other training she got. edit: I've seen that it was changed by an unknown IP with no known previous colaboration, so unless further proof is presented I'm removing that line. Lokheit (talk) 00:39, 22 August 2013 (UTC)

Trivia[edit]

She spent a year in silence just to better understand the sound of a whisper. Yseron

Sounds like we need a rumor section for her, not a Trivia section. Vahkris (talk) 13:44, 22 August 2013 (UTC)
I'm not sure what the youtube vid has to do with this. The line bout spending a year in silence has no support in any of the dialogues I could find. This was added by the same IP who added the rumour of her being trained by the 6 gods. So source please. Ranique (talk) 05:03, 23 August 2013 (UTC)
There is nothing recorded of her doings between 1324 and 1326. I'm supposing she was forming the Molten Alliance and inventing the new technology in that time. The Molten Alliance only attacked in early 1326, and the purpose of the alliance (for Scarlet) was to probe ley-lines. So, she discovers ley-lines, goes off the radar for a year, and returns with a new alliance and new technology, probing ley-lines. TiffanySmith.8216 (talk) 15:21, 3 October 2018 (UTC)

Zyra Lookalike[edit]

Has anyone else noticed she looks a LOT like Zyra from League of Legends? Sylvari and all. ~Miss Lana 07:49, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

I think that that's purely coincidence. The only thing that really makes her look like Zyra is that she's Sylvari and wears red which matches Zyras Hair Color. Other than that they don't look that much alike. Recnamorcen (talk) 10:36, 23 August 2013 (UTC)

Armor[edit]

Could someone tell me which armor she's wearing? 123.20.152.106 11:24, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Magitech Medium Armor Skin from the gemstore. Sometimes with the hood from thief biography. Konig 11:39, 27 November 2013 (UTC)

Secret Lair Painting[edit]

Sooooo there's a red dragon? painted in scarlet's lair ... Scarlets lair dragon painting.jpg --Find And Seek User Find And Seek sig.png 17:09, 25 January 2014 (UTC)

Scarlet Briar Journal[edit]

So in the description of Scarlet, it places the information from the journal as part of Scarlet's early life when she was known as Ceara, why? The journal is labeled Scarlet Briar's not Ceara's. Were there dates presents somewhere that weren't copied onto the wiki? It makes sense that once she identifies herself as Scarlet she wouldn't go see the menders, as she kills Omadd and has this new sense of understanding. However, there is no mention of her having these thoughts in her head in the short story (which of course isn't comprehensive). --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 130.49.178.227 (talk).

And this is why I haven't left things Santax edits alone... Humorous that one time I do, there's the above. Yeah, the journal is never stated to be written by Ceara, and all indication is that it fully takes place after entering the machine of Omadd's given that's when the "entity" (likely Mordremoth or a champion of Mordremoth) got into her head the first time, and the entire journal is her descent into madness caused by the "entity". Konig 21:58, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
Cheers for the input Konig, for a minute it looked like it might not descend into another pointless bitchfest. But you're always there to unnecessarily make a content dispute into a personal conflict. IP, if I remember correctly there was a debate on the forum about whether the journal was written before or after the short story (I think that was because, as you say, there doesn't seem to be much of a connection between the Scarlet in the journal and the one in the short story). I didn't favour any particular side, but I think ANet must have noticed because the version of the journal in The Dead End: A Study in Scarlet has dates for each entry. So there you have it. Plus, it doesn't make much sense for this great villain Scarlet Briar to emerge ready to destroy the world or whatever, and then go for a sit down and a chat with a mender about how stressed she is :P --Santax (talk · contribs) 22:34, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
The answer's clear: stop putting unclear information as if it were clear. :P
It does make sense to me, if things got messed up in her mind afterwards. Either way, it's physically impossible for the journal to take place while she was in the Grove. The latter version depicts each entry as being a season later (roughly 90 days apart) lasting for nearly 2 full years. Even if the first two entries are while she's in the Grove and the rest isn't, it would mean she left the Grove in 1322, but she was with Asagai for 2 years and the colleges for three (one per, roughly) - she would be joining the Inquest in 1327 AE. Doesn't work. The earliest that the journal can be taking place in regards to What Scarlet Saw would have to be beginning during her studies in the colleges - and this presumes she became Scarlet Briar in 1324 or 1325 (which can work given Thaumanova showing she held ties with the Inquest then still). But unlikely, given how much planning was needed. Furthermore, given the lines about it being within Omadd's machine in which she saw something, the journal is has to either end with her entering the machine (thus she became Scarlet Briar in 1323), or fully afterwards (thus she became Scarlet Briar before winter of 1321).
Either way, its current placement is heavily misleading as people would read it as taking place while she's in the Grove, which just cannot happen. Konig 22:44, 5 March 2014 (UTC)
I moved the journal bit to the end of that section, making it clear when the nightmares are first mentioned and that the timeframe isn't clear in relation to the rest mentioned. Hopefully this will curtail future confusions. Konig 22:52, 5 March 2014 (UTC)

Cycle of Morning?[edit]

She's been put into a "Cycle of Morning" category, as of this edit. I can't find anything in the Short Story telling us which Cycle she belongs to. The words "cycle" or "morning" hasn't been mentioned once. And such a thing as "Cycle of Morning" doesn't even exist. Did I miss something? :S Titus The Third User titus the third.png 12:58, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

The t-shirt and "Scarlet Briar: a Brief". It's not Cycle of Morning though, it's "Cycle of Day". Which I presume means Noon. Though she's more of Dawn then Noon in terms of personality. Konig 17:54, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
Edit: I am not sure where Santax got "Cycle of Morning" either. Nothing in the description indicates a morning. Just daytime. Konig 17:56, 26 October 2014 (UTC)
What t-shirt? :) I really wonder how they managed to write "Cycle of Day". That's just... very disappointing. Titus The Third User titus the third.png 18:22, 26 October 2014 (UTC)

Timeline[edit]

Yesterday, I started to rewrite the article in accordance with the Timeline discussion on the forums. However, I noticed several things there that I couldn't get to add up. So I made a compilation myself of all the hologram/journal entries + what we know from here short story: User:Titus The Third/Sandbox3. Without changing the sequence order of each individual source, I arranged them all chronologically and intertwined with each other in the order that made most sense - at least to me. I was thinking I'd rewrite the article according to this timeline, so please check it out and comment if you find anything that doesn't seem right. Titus User titus the third.png 15:47, 24 February 2015 (UTC)

I like your time line, it flows much better than what is on the article. Good job. DBZVelena | (Talk page) User DBZVelena sig.jpg 22:51, 1 June 2015 (UTC)
A note on the recent rewrite of the article. I've tried my best to implement my findings, ref. link to my compilation of holograms and journal entries above. Some of the wordings I've used may feel less fluent now. This is because I've tried to keep most of the information retold as verbatim as possible - as to avoid any future misunderstandings or misinterpretations. It should also be noted that my timeline and the one one the forums didn't match completely. If anyone wants to do their own research / proof reading on the events and occurances, you're very welcome to do so. Scarlet's story is a messy one, and you may obviously spot new things / errors I or others may have made. Titus User titus the third.png 16:07, 26 July 2017 (UTC)