Talk:Plant

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Disagree. We are unlikely to ever document non-sentient plants so there's no need to specify so much. Likewise, in lore the plants are sentient but mechanically they're simply "plant" (we know due to Slayer achievement) - though one can argue that plants are all sentient, but the ones talked about here are also sapient. Konig/talk 18:37, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

Unsure; I'm not really keen on the 'sentient plant' designation, myself. There is a greater variety of plants to be documented this time around in terms of crafting materials and resources, but the extent and manner of classification/documentation are still in the early stages. Redshift 19:05, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

This page will, more than likely, be documenting the NPC type - if we need a page to list all plant-based crafting materials we could do "Plant (interactive objects)" or something, but I don't see that becoming anywhere near necessary - a simple "Crafting material" page would suffice to hold all crafting materials. But since we know so little of them (to my knowledge at least) that's a bit of a ways off. Konig/talk 20:01, 11 August 2011 (UTC)

I'd like to keep this as just plant too. Mainly because the slayer category which Konig mentions makes it something of an official name for these. If there were a need to disambiguate this with another official overloaded term for the crafting material I'd like it to go to Plant (bestiary) or Plant (creature) rather than the suggestion. -- aspectacle  23:09, 12 August 2011 (UTC)

What constitutes as a plant

Currently, there are multiple entries into Category:Plants, from interactive objects that can attack to various Sylvan Hounds. However, technically only treants count towards the Slayer Achievement. IMO, only those should be categorized as "plants." With that, perhaps this page isn't needed so much except maybe as a redirect? Others' thoughts? Konig/talk 21:52, 18 September 2012 (UTC)

Dead discussion, I know, but I feel like this needs to be said somewhere (especially since we're likely to be seeing a lot more plant-based enemies in the near future). In the BradyGames guide (not the most up to the minute source, I know, but it is official and the writers did have some access to ANet's internal workings in order to write the guide), Fern Dogs (and variants thereof), along with Rock Dogs, Wargs, Nightmare Hounds and Icebrood Wolves, are considered to be "Mastiff"s. What we call "treants" (btw, is there any justification for this other than their resemblance to the DnD creatures?), the guide considers to be Pinesouls, with Mosshearts, Oakhearts, and Willowhearts as either "cousins" or subtypes. As for the Summoned Husks, or Nightmare Husks...well, they aren't mentioned at all in the bestiary, although they did exist at the point in development in which the guide was written. They may be considered part of the "Nightmare Court" creature type, but that's just speculation on my part. --Santax (talk · contribs) 11:27, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

I am relatively certain husks are not affected by e.g. Nightmare Court slaying potions, and am more inclined to put them in the automaton category. The only things that count towards Plant Slayer are oakhearts and all their variants, as well as the illusionary ones summoned by the Nightmare Tree in Twilight Arbor forward path. Vili 点 12:05, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

We use "treant" because it's generic. Using any specific name like pinesoul as the group name feels wrong, because who's to say which one was the original?

As for the "mastiffs," unfortunately there is neither a Mastiff Slayer achievement nor a Potion of Mastiff Slaying. I do know that Rock Dogs/Wargs don't contribute to any other Slayer achievement and count as their own type for kill variety. I'm pretty sure Nightmare Hounds and Icebrood Wolves count for variety as their associated "army" (think that's the right term), can't remember how they counted for slayer though. —Dr Ishmael 12:23, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

Easy to test next time Kill Variety comes up by going to the Twilight Arbor waypoint. There are Nightmare Hounds and Nightmare Courtiers right there. I seem to remember Hounds count separately from actual Nightmare Court, but wouldn't bet money on it. Vili 点 12:34, 1 May 2014 (UTC)

I've been doing Hylek stories during my keyfarming activities and I've gotten a lot of plant kills during the defense of the Hylek Village. Possibly the tequatl's root things count as plants? 121.221.110.161 05:25, 8 March 2019 (UTC)