Talk:Northern Wall

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This page doesn't really need to be hear because the charr own it and have probably destroyed it. - Giant Nuker 02:50, 13 September 2009 (UTC)

We know portions of it remains, but I still disagree with this page, at least for now. I am sure there will be in-game names for certain ruins, including the Great Northern Wall. If there are new names, then I say make a page for it. -- Konig/talk 04:04, 13 September 2009 (UTC)
I don't see what the problem is. If a new name arises in the future, we can rename the page and make "The Great Northern Wall" redirect to it. This page contains no speculation, only information that is already known. --64.222.200.8 15:46, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
The issue is that this page deals more with GW1 than GW2. For all we know, the wall will have no mention of in GW2. -- Konig/talk 20:23, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Barrier[edit]

The Northern was never the barrier between Ascalon and the Charr Homelands, Several towns existed to the north of the Wall prior to the Searing. (Drascir, Rin, Surmia, etc.) It was, however, what kept the Charr from overrunning the southern part of Ascalon. Sirrush 15:51, 14 September 2009 (UTC)

Actually, when the Great Northern Wall was created, it was meant as a barrier. The war between Charr and Humans existed for centuries, and the line was constantly moving back and forth. The Charr being pushed back allowed humans to make settlements beyond the wall, even up to where Gwen's Story takes place (I believe that was the furthest). So it was a barrier, but one the humans went beyond. Also, Rin is south of the wall. -- Konig/talk 20:23, 14 September 2009 (UTC)
Well then, I fail completely at the Prophecies lore and I should be ashamed of myself. Either way, thanks for the info. :) Sirrush 20:25, 16 September 2009 (UTC)
I wrote the first part of the information for The Great Northern Wall. And it was, actually, a barrier. I'm guessing the Charr had been more northern at the time that the Humans made a few cities in the Northern area, but then the Charr invaded and the Humans were pushed back into more open area. In fear that they would be pushed even further, they created a wall to protect themselves from the Charr. Kroff 15:54, 17 October 2009 (UTC)
Not quite, the wall was built long before Surmia was created and the Charr fought back again. The history goes that the Charr's lands reached as far south as the Blazeridge Mountains, but were pushed north by the humans. The wall was created when the Khan-Ur of the Charr was killed, forcing the Charr to stop the assault on the humans (mostly out of the return of internal wars), during this time, the humans pushed more and more south - the furthest north the Ascalonians are known to have pushed is in Gwen's Story from the BMP. Lastly, the Charr resumed the assault in 1070 AE - the year of the Searing. This is all from the Ecology of the Charr and the timeline. -- Konig/talk 17:12, 17 October 2009 (UTC)

GW1 link[edit]

The link to GW1 in the {{gww}} template takes you to the article on the mission, not the article on the wall itself. I'm not sure how to easily fix this, maybe a new template should be made? (Satanael | talk) 18:24, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

fixed :P -- pling User Pling sig.png 18:50, 3 January 2010 (UTC)
Oh, that was easy, thanks Pling! (Satanael | talk) 23:57, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

Name[edit]

Shouldn't this be 'Great Northern Wall'? That's how people refer to it, and it's been called that since prophecies....--User Necro Shea mo signature.jpg Necro Shea Mo 17:52, 20 December 2011 (UTC)

I am going to assume forward-thinking and claim that this title is correct for the current state of the game. A bunch of ruins was not so great, after all? Other than that, a source for the current name would be nice. - Infinite - talk 17:55, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
On the map for the novels GoS and EoD, the landmark is named Northern Wall. - Infinite - talk 18:05, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
Northern Wall comes solely from the novel maps - which is the most up to date longest name for it (there's also "the Wall" which is its most common name). Konig/talk 18:29, 20 December 2011 (UTC)
It just doesn't feel right to have the title as it is.. Hm.--User Necro Shea mo signature.jpg Necro Shea Mo 07:36, 21 December 2011 (UTC)
True, since it's not really "north" of what folks know anymore. Technically, best we can call it while being accurate is "ruins of the Wall" now. But "the Wall" would still be short for it. It's not great, and it ain't north no more. Just a massive, ruined, wall. Konig/talk 08:51, 21 December 2011 (UTC)

Ascalon ruins in Fireheart Rise[edit]

There are sections of what appear to be Ascalon City runes, resembling the architecture of The Great Northern Wall, near Highland Thaw. I'm having a hard time understanding their existence. Can anyone shed some light on this? --165.255.161.133 19:59, 4 March 2019 (UTC)