Talk:Largos

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"humanoid with butterfly attributes, including butterfly-like wings." I strongly disagree with this. The "wings" of the largos don't remind me of a butterfly in the slightest, I'd rater say that they are ray-like (see [1]), which would fit considering their skin color is light blue and appears somewhat scaly, which would, in my opinion, hint at an aquatic origin of this race. --Shyanmar 20:25, 10 July 2012 (UTC)

They're definitely more like butterfly wings than stingray fins. The size, the shape, the placement. I'd say the gw1:Seers have more stingray-like fins for their "wings" than the Largos. Perhaps they aren't entirely butterfly like, as they are thicker (in body size comparison) than a butterfly's wings (and perhaps more leather-like), but they're no where close to a stingray's wings. Not to mention the placement of where the wings come from on the largos would not fit a similarity to a stingray's fins which, as the use of me saying fins should tell, are not wings and are vastly different from wings. Perhaps the screenshot is not the best to show such but if you saw their movement and design in game I'm sure you would agree that they are by far not like fins, at all. Konig/talk 00:40, 11 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm not saying they're fins, they're definitely wing-like (although probably not made for flight). You're right about placement, but I don't think the shape looks too much like a butterfly. Not to mention the markings and general "feel" and texture, which are most definitely at the very least ray-inspired. It might be a mixture of the two, but it's not right to just call it butterfly-like. I have seen a largos ingame, by the way, I know how they move ^_- That's one reason I'm convinced they're aquatic, you don't see that slight scale texture in the screenshot. --Shyanmar 21:01, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

I'm sorry, but I still fail to see how this and this looks like this more than this. Yeah, butterfly isn't the best example, but it's beyond different from a ray's fins (and I never said you said they're fins, but rather I said they don't look like fins, with an implied "of a ray"). They certainly can swim, but they don't seem to be aquatic by nature at all. Yes, they're heavier than a butterfly's or a moth's wings, but they're still far closer to those than a ray's fins. Konig/talk 23:09, 24 July 2012 (UTC)

Judging from this and this, they appear to have aquatic origins, so I'd say they're closer to rays than to butterflies (also, their fins/wings appear to glow much akin to most deep sea animals). --99.251.73.212 04:09, 2 September 2012 (UTC)

Why not just say they have wings and leave it at that?75.108.11.252 05:03, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

I also interacted with one in my personal story and have fought one underwater for a skill point in Mount Maelstrom. The first time I saw them (before I saw this article, might I add), I thought manta ray because of the way their wings move underwater. They definitely seem at ease in the water, whether they are technically aquatic or not. A very intriguing race. Daine 12:05, 3 September 2012 (UTC)

I think anyone that has seen a Largos swim would consider them ray-like. Especially given the fact that they're sea creatures, which you learn from a nearby Largos NPC. - 05:52, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

There's a personal story quest that suggests they are an aquatic race. Manifold 06:28, 4 September 2012 (UTC)

What's the doubt here? They swim like rays and have colors and bioluminescence similar to GW's mantas. They are clearly manta-like withing the GW universe. It doesn't matter if their wing-like fins are split from the body instead being attached all along it like with rays. They still use them exactly like rays use them. And since they use them to swim, those can't be wings. "Fin" and "wing" are names for a functionality, not a structure. That's why insects, bats and birds have 'wings'; and fish, dolphins, penguins and sea lions have 'fins'. MithTalk 19:04, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

Master Sdias

Added some info from Master Sdias from the Event "Escort Apprentice Ysius". Tong2 14:43, 5 September 2012 (UTC)

If you make some camera trickery, you can partially see Ysius' face where she stands. She has no eyebrows, no strong facial lines, and never, ever blinks. She looks like a mix between a drow, an aquatic elf and a psycho. MithTalk 19:04, 13 September 2012 (UTC)

I love this race

I hope they're playable somewhere down the line... probably not since there are so few of them, but I can hope... 76.173.91.72 04:22, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

Personally, I suspect they will be. They feel like they're being introduced in a similar manner as sylvari. Furthermore, they can easily share the same or similar armor models as humans and sylvari, thus little need to alter existing armors (similar to tengu and charr armors), and they have plenty of customizable options (the typical aspects, plus the wings). And they have unique animations - though that's not much to argue, but I think Sayeh emotes to the PC during the story. But that's just my personal suspicions. And I think many share our sentiments of wanting them to be playable races. Konig/talk 05:05, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

I doubt they'll be playable as they are, seeing how their entire culture seems to go around assassination. But then again, most of the ones we encounter appear as neutral allies. So maybe we'll get to play as Largos that defy their culture and refuse to be hitmen. IF we ever get to see their city, it'll be probably something like a bubble or a huge dome or cave, underwater, connected to huge underground caverns and the deep ocean. MithTalk 22:46, 21 September 2012 (UTC)

While most (all?) largos are those who have targets - that we've seen - not all solely act as hitmen. There's mention in Malchor's Leap of multiple largos helping refugees out in the area. Besides, that's little different than how all charr are military. Konig/talk 02:48, 22 September 2012 (UTC)

Charr don't kill just because someone told them to without considering why, they'll have to be the enemy,and there must be a reason why they are the enemy. Being under the flame legion for so long has affected them, and although they still value warbands, they also value individual thinking. Largos seem to be more: "That's my target, I've been told to kill it, so I'll kill it, and that's it". If you compare both, charr sure look "violent", but largos look just "sycopath". One minute you amy be talking with them, the next they are slitting your throat. MithTalk 21:58, 26 September 2012 (UTC)

I think at this point we simply don't know enough of this race yet to make accurate assumptions here. The ones we met seem to be mostly assassins, but that doesn't imply that they all are. Ash legion also has quite a few assassins, but that doesn't apply to all charr, either. Maybe there are different factions or occupations within the largos culture as well that have simply not yet been revealed. But whether as playable race or not, I do think that we'll see quite a lot of them in the future. Shyanmar 12:13, 18 October 2012 (UTC)

I can certainly see them being an added race in an expansion that is heavy on underwater content--RJStrange 12:05, 23 October 2012 (UTC)

I too would love it as playable race. and i suspect they might be part of the Cantha expansion along with long wanted Tengu. Those wings are pretty! DBZVelena | (Talk page) 11:51, 20 December 2012 (UTC)

Short Bow

"In fighting, largos have only been seen to use dual swords or a spear". I saw Sayeh armed with a short bow when I defended the ritual after defeat Sovereign Eye of Zhaitan. 176.100.71.111 15:18, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Interesting. She still had dual swords for me. Konig/talk 15:30, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

I saw her swapping. I've seen any other NPCs swapping too, like bandits and centaurs. MithTalk 20:41, 8 October 2012 (UTC)

Only bandits I've seen swapping do so out of use of the thief Steal skill (it was the Bandit Scout, I believe was the name - with Steals ability under the name), where they've grabbed another weapon after shadowstepping to me. Perhaps that's what the others've done? Konig/talk 00:47, 9 October 2012 (UTC)

Reminds me of

The naming scheme and the voice remind me of Mass Effect's Quarian race. - Endeavor 16:49, 30 December 2012 (UTC)

Eyelids

They don't seem to possess eyelids. I stared at Sayeh's eyes for awhile and realized they were creeping me out because they are wide open. Then again, I don't think you'd need eyelids if you live underwater. 99.16.133.42 05:35, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

Males don't technically have eyes, and for females, it's underneath a mask so their lack of texture and features I would blame more on Anet being lazy than being the case. Konig/talk 05:54, 21 January 2013 (UTC)

An entire race of Mary Sues

This is an awful race, the only people playing these would be 15 year old emos. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 86.153.19.97 (talk).

I disagree, and they certainly are not Mary Sues, since they can do wrong and are not perfect (Trahearne's the closest thing to a Mary Sue in GW2, and even then he's still not one). Konig/talk 20:26, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

If you want to get extremly technical on this one. A Mary Sue is fan insert like in the Trek fiction where Mary Sue first debuded. Therefor it is hard to argue that these are Mary Sue characters because they are already in the game. It is just sloppy writing. ^^ - Yandere 21:04, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

I always thought they were the Guild Wars version of what you would get by combining zoras with quarians, too bad your character can't make out with Sayeh.--Relyk ~ talk > 21:06, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

I suppose Yandere would know tropes best, being named after the psychotic chick trope (as a friend says, the best dere is yandere!). Konig/talk 21:07, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Wow that was english fail in the last comment. I shouldn't edit while I am half asleep O_o

By the way you have nothing to fear I am more of the obsessive yandere type. ^^ - Yandere 21:54, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

But... but... the psychotic yanderes make the best writing materials and stories! I mean, look at how popular (and overall epic) the manga/anime Mirai Nikki (I never seen the anime, just read the manga and loved it <3). Konig/talk 22:14, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Mirai Nikki is extremly awesome... I watched the anime first and than read through the manga. The manga has the better ending though... Yukiii - Yandere 23:09, 27 January 2013 (UTC)

Mirai Nikki has a Good Ending. Mithrán approves. MithTalk 15:11, 28 January 2013 (UTC)

The entire species reeks of a bullied/emo-/depressed/teenager who listens to Linkin Park. 'SO DARK AND BROODING CRAAAAWWWLIIIIIING IIIIIIN MY SKIIIIIIIN THESE WOOOOUNDS THEY WILL NOT HEEEEAAAAAL' orijinal species donut steel. Mysterious, dark, assassins, brooding etc. the only way I can have any faith in ANet's writing ability is if these guys turn out to be the idea of one of the higher-up's kids who then whined until their parent put it in the game. Brolteonix 15:19pm 29 January 2013 (GMT)

Except there's no emo, depression, or brooding in them whatsoever. It's like saying gw1:Kurzicks are emo because they have a dark and gothic culture. Clearly, you're not paying attention to them. Or your just very closed minded and a child yourself, thinking "dark clothing = emo" Konig/talk 18:12, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

They are not emos. They are psychopaths. MithTalk 18:25, 29 January 2013 (UTC)

Tethyos Houses is collective not singular

It does not refer to any single house, it refers to a collection of houses. Hence the Tethyos Compact which refers to a "union of houses". Someone needs to cleanup the standalone article. --50.191.168.85 17:53, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

You could do it. And please don't make a custom signature with a fake username if you're not registered and logged in. —Dr Ishmael 18:00, 26 March 2014 (UTC)

Trivia about Spanish meaning

I do believe it to be a bit of a reach. Granted, Spanish is spoken in a vast majority of countries, and I have not been to all of them, but Spanish is my mother tongue and I've never seen a "false friend" referred to as a "Largo". "Largo" just means "Long", as in "That book was way too long". -- Large 16:49, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

It looks to me they homonyms, but not cognates. Just a coincidence. MithTalk 20:48, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

In portuguese, "largo" is a broader adjective that means specifically "long" or "widespread", it's not "high seas" or "open seas". We use "Viajar pelos grandes mares" ("To travel the open seas"), and not "Viajar pelos largos" ("To travel the longs"), just an example how it doesn't make sense. And it made me giggle. – Valento ^msg 22:47, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

It may be been something specific to Brazilian Portuguese or some colony, maybe. In any case, whoever edited the trivia probably relied too much in the Wiktionary. MithTalk 23:34, 6 May 2015 (UTC)

Sorry but it doesn't mean what it says it means in portuguese, unless source is very outdated or some primitive form of portuguese which changed a lot throughout the centuries. – Valento ^msg 01:45, 7 May 2015 (UTC)

Artificial fins?

"Some drawings of Largos show them without their wings, indicating that they may be artificial. However, these are never seen in game." I don't think that they are artificial, and it shouldn't even be mentioned. I was watching them standing a lot, and they are actually stretching them sometimes. In addition, the fins are moving too fluidly and naturally, if you watch it closely, you can even see that it's scaled just as their body, only the colour changes. The "wingless" drawing of the female largos is probably for showing her back. On male largos we can see the same blue shapes on his arms and neck, these are perhaps connected in a complicated inner system we do not know about. And that they are "butterfly-like-wings": not agree. Perhaps they are similar to the shape of butterfly wings, but those are obviously fins, like rays or mantas (even the luminescence makes me think about them). This should be reviewed. --Ayarati (talk) 21:17, 23 September 2016 (UTC)