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Yeah, Balthazar wins. -- Armond WarbladeUser Armond sig image.png 22:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

That goes without saying. Lord Belar 00:06, 6 January 2008 (UTC)
I want to meet his parents i hada dream that he and the other gods are like *children* and Tyria was like a failed science project xD no seriouslly lol that be funny Lost-Blue 05:06, 28 February 2008 (UTC)
No, it probably would not. Cress Arvein User Cress Arvein sig.JPG 21:12, 16 August 2008 (UTC)
No need to be like that, Cress. It's easy for one to assume their comment isn't funny if it hasn't been replied to. You don't need to go adding that.-- Shew 16:11, 17 August 2008 (UTC)

I bet his sword is a....[edit]

FDS. Even the gods are not above noobish tendencies b.r // talk 11:09, 7 December 2008 (UTC)

Probably just a great sword *not like one we can wield* that is also on fire. Like in the statue of Balthazar. -- Konig Des Todes 03:48, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

That Sword rocks. And his armor--Knighthonor 09:37, 7 March 2010 (UTC)

Patron of...[edit]

Should the fact of Balthazar being associated with warriors be added to his page?--BookofTyria 00:43, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Does that case still remain? And even if it did, it would have to be human warriors. -- Konig/talk 05:52, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

Not unknown[edit]

The outcome of the war isn't unbeknown, our player characters beat Menzies forces in the Fissure of Woe. Ramei Arashi 17:52, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Have you killed Menzies?
Have you devastated his army of thousands - if not millions - of minions?
How much of the war that no doubt lasted years were you around for?
You were a part of a few isolated battles. You did not end the war. User A F K When Needed Signature Icon.png A F K When Needed 19:17, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
"The Realm of War is a place of eternal conflict." - Admiral Saidon. Menzies was never confronted, let alone killed. We simply liberated the Fissure of Woe, not end the war (note: Menzies' main forces are said to be in the Ravenheart Gloom, which we only see the edge of as it is said to be endless). Konig/talk 19:58, 18 February 2012 (UTC)
Balderdash. We were rewarded for defeating Menzies army. Not necessary to see him. Ramei Arashi 16:50, 8 May 2012 (UTC)

Just a little something[edit]

Just a little thing I found on skyrim nexus. Thought I should share. - EndeavorTalk 02:16, 18 August 2012 (UTC)

Note on page about portal vs gates[edit]

Note from page: "The Movement of the World says that Balthazar opened a portal to the Mists in Lion's Arch, however instead there are five asura gates." I'm not sure why the note is worded the way it is, as I thought it was stated in numerous areas that the portal was opened by Balthazar, and asura went through, created a gate at that spot and then from there opened more from the other locations? 00:20, 8 December 2012 (UTC)

That's the first I've ever heard of such a thing. The asura gates as we are told were made from new advancements in asuran technology - the gates exist where the an arena in Lion's Arch once was (as featured in Edge of Destiny) - source for such being the named norn in Fort Marriner just north of said asura gates. Konig/talk 00:46, 8 December 2012 (UTC)


Is anywhere in the game mentioned who his father was? --talk Large 23:04, 3 February 2013 (UTC)

Not that I've seen. The only bit about his father we have comes from the Orrian History Scrolls. Konig/talk 01:20, 4 February 2013 (UTC)


It seems like the grawl call him Badazar (I assume a play on Bad-ass'er): Drive the grawl away from Badazar's, no...Balthazar's statue, Badazar's Champion. ~ Sanna 19:19, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

It's less of "the grawl" and more of "that one particular tribe misreading the statue's words/mishearing the name." Grawl have no long-standing religion and even in GW1 we saw the congregating around the statues of the Six - as we learn via Planet of the Grawl, this isn't because they worship the Six but because they found the statues and decided "hey, that looks like something I can worship!" - they don't worship the gods, but the statues, in other words. Badazar is just a play off of this, showing that the grawl really have no clue what they're worshiping. Konig 19:44, 5 September 2014 (UTC)
Interesting, thanks for clarifying! ~ Sanna 20:08, 5 September 2014 (UTC)

whats his armor?[edit]

what is his armor has anyone found anything at least resembling it???The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk) at 04:11, 26 September 2017 (UTC).

I'm pretty sure it's actually an outfit: Balthazar's Regalia Outfit -Darqam 04:13, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
I looked at that armor set, and there's enough differences that they are not the same set. I'm going to assume this is a unique armor skin created just for Balthazar to make him look super epic. I also strongly doubt that it will ever be on sale in the gem store, unlike many of the other armor sets out there. --Rognik (talk) 05:27, 26 September 2017 (UTC)
I believe that_shaman actually did datamine an outfit that matched Balthazar's armor. It's not out yet, but everything else seems to be... Sooner or later. Konig (talk) 05:41, 26 September 2017 (UTC)

Belthazar is the giant chained in the fractals of the mist[edit]

it would make some sense with the whole, he's the only god loose, and the fractals aren't locked to any one timestream, as well as it being one of the only fractals nobody could place what was happening. The preceding unsigned comment was added by (talk).

Except we see Balthazar while he's chained and he looks like himself but without armor (see cinematic during The Sacrifice); Fractals are indeed locked to a timestream, and repeatedly reset over and over again (Shattered Observatory Fractal even alludes to this multiple times, as well as Dessa's dialogue in the Mistlock Observatory). Furthermore, the fractal is representing a time period when humanity was new on Tyria - which implies the giant is actually a creature that was imprisoned on Tyria (world) about 2,000 years prior to GW2, well before even Abaddon's (and presumably Dhuum's) fall, let alone Balthazar's. It's more likely for the colossus to be Abaddon's predecessor that was imperfectly copied by the Mists, or something (though Abaddon is heavily hinted to have come from the human homeworld like Dwayna, Melandru, and Balthazar are confirmed to have; Dhuum and Lyssa also implied but not as strongly as Abaddon, with Lyssa the least strongly - so maybe Lyssa's predecessor? IF it was part of the Six Gods pantheon at all, and that's a big if). Konig (talk) 05:24, 6 December 2017 (UTC)