Guild Wars 2 Wiki talk:Projects/Decorations

Guild Hall decorations' infobox

While updating homestead decoration pages with the new infobox and nav, I encountered an issue and questions regarding guild hall decorations. To be exact, I wasn't sure which information to include in the new type of infobox. Since many decorations are shared between homesteads and guild halls, does it also mean, that now they share the same decor "id" that is displayed in API? For example, Lion Statue (Handiwork) - homestead decoration and its decor "id" is 713. Guild halls share the same decoration which is Lion Statue - and according to their current infobox, its "id" is 72922, but in the API they are under the "item" category instead, and not decoration. In this case - which information should be used, in order to update guild hall decorations' infoboxes? Maybe an example of the guild hall decorations' infobox would also be a good addition to this project, the same way Kodan Hero Statue was presented? Sorry if it's a silly question, I'm still new to the API and understanding how it fully works, thus for now I left out the shared guild hall decoration pages (on the ones I worked on). Vysnaite 13:16, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Hey, first thank you for joining the project! And yeah, I guess I wasn't clear about the ids, but it is simply like this: homestead decorations only have 'decoration id', and guild hall decorations have the normal 'id'. And yes, the gh decorations are listed as items in the API because technically speaking, the page for them is both for the schematic (the item that unlocks the deco) and the decoration itself in the decoration menu, similar to how we document outfits. Hope it is more clear and if not, do not hesitate to reach out again. ~Sime 15:32, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for having me! And thank you for answering my questions, things seem to be way more clear now. I also noticed that you added an updated example for the Lion Statue decoration - I appreciate it! I will make sure to backtrack the guild hall decorations that I missed and update them with the new infoboxes too :) Vysnaite 15:57, 24 September 2024 (UTC)

List of Future/Questionable Decorations

What should we do to these pages in the table? If not, I will just leave the table here as a reminder. --Tery3065 (talk) 05:42, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

1. No wiki page yet(future) | All of WvW siege decors and some other decors(architecture/plant/sculpture)
2. Wrong image format | Bronze Triple Trouble Trophy, Bronze Chak Gerent Trophy and their Silver/Gold variants
3. Which nav should we use? or fix navigation template itself | Tranquil Birdbath, Infernal Facade (Handiwork)
4. Wayfinder's Versatile Table Decoration and its variants| need some touch as mentions in table
5. Black lion's only group doesn't have navigation yet | Waystation + Plush Pals

Well, we could technically create those pages in preparation with the future tag, or we can just wait till they eventually add them ingame. Good work collecting this.

for #3, either nav works because the homestead navs will be eventually split and then we will be able to have both at the same time. ~Sime 12:58, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Okay so #3/5 is cleared. #1 is what it is.

What about #2, these 2 have mark as placeholder in guildhall deco page since 2016. should we leave it likes that for now? Same as some unclear old image of some deco, taking image should be easier with new decoration mechanic.

and for #4 Wayfinder's Versatile Table Decoration, this page could be easily confused with its own container. I think its should rename to Wayfinder's Versatile Table (Decoration) add blanket like other deco or add {{otheruse}} or both.

I know its not this project main goal --Tery3065 (talk) 14:16, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

For #1, I'd be fine with creating those pages already. Regarding the images in #2: Those should be replaced and will be easier to once the statues are released for homesteads. Asuaka (talk) 14:44, 29 September 2024 (UTC)

Homestead decorations nav

How can we improve this Template:Homestead decorations nav, if more decorations coming its gonna be long list and hard to edit. Yet still doesn't have tab for Theme decoration. What should its look? Will we split them and create fanmade subgroup just like how GH nav did? Right now, yes. its looking just likes how in game is. But that the problem, only icon is hard to navigate even if in-game. My though is it should look something like GH nav but merging some categories maybe Planters and Topiaries/Trees and Foliage/Natural Features together since they're all-Natural thing. --Tery.3065 06:08, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

So, the nav should be split just as the guild hall navs are, based on the categories. And yes, only using icons is an issue, it should look the same as GH navs - aka icon AND text. Not sure about merging categories, especially as we are expecting more and more decorations to be added. ~Sime 14:29, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Then its gonna look something like this? -- Tery.3065 18:29, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

Yup yup, exactly that's the plan. ~Sime 19:10, 5 October 2024 (UTC)

All main categories should be okay for now. What about those theme categories? Is it worth to make nav for them or not? If you look at Heart of Thorns category, it's just duplicate of all potted decorations. or adding it in "See also" is enough. -- Tery.3065 22:04, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for your work! And imho yeah just See also works for them. ~Sime 22:21, 7 October 2024 (UTC)

Note for 8 October 24 Decorations

Total 43 decorations in API. see Tracker + 16 decorations in API from later update.

• Pages without API ID
  • Antique Bell (Handiwork)
  • Haunted Bell (Handiwork)
  • Gargoyle (Handiwork)
  • Flame-Bearing Gargoyle (Handiwork)
  • Warclaw Rental Post (Handiwork) Racing, Shadow of the Mad King
• Decorations that mention "Learned" but not found in Workbench.
  • Homestead Recipe Book: Halloween, Volume 2 / Eternal Flame (Handiwork) | Recipe id 14128
  • Homestead Recipe Book: Halloween, Volume 4 / Decorated Casket (Handiwork) | Recipe id 14898
• Meditative Garden Homestead Package [&AgHRlAEAAA==]
  • 826 | Meditative Stone Lantern
  • 827 | Meditative Long Bamboo Fence
  • 829 | Meditative Bamboo Fence
  • 831 | Meditative Lucky Rock
  • 832 | Meditative Sand Circle
  • 833 | Meditative Windswept Tree
  • 834 | Meditative Favored Rock
  • 835 | Meditative Bamboo Fountain
  • 836 | Meditative Sand Lines

-- Tery.3065 23:04, 10 October 2024 (UTC)

Added initial pages for all the Meditative Garden decorations. Decided against adding the Meditative White Lantern and Meditative Red Lantern to the decorations nav, looks like they've been cut from the package Asuaka (talk) 22:55, 11 October 2024 (UTC)

Note for 19 November 24 Decorations

Total 313 in API endpoint, including upcoming festivals and most of guildhall duplicates. -- Tery.3065 05:03, 21 November 2024 (UTC)

TO DO

1 | Heart vendor decor

0 | Deft Lahar PvE trophies

0 | Glenna Raid trophies

0 | Upcoming decoration page from API (Festivals)