Talk:Molten Alliance Mining Pick

Not cosmetic

Now ANET has made the big disappointment, letting the gem store be not only cosmetic. Sadly there will be enough people buying it. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 94.222.37.39 (talk • contribs).

They didn't say only cosmetic, they said no in-game advantage. For spending 10 dollars or about 20  at today's conversion rate, you get something that you can already obtain in a less convenient form. For the same coin, you can upgrade 15-slot bags to 18-slot to hold 3 back up ori picks, buying them for 4  each as you run out. You can get 18-slot bags from the TP for less than 2 , leaving you with enough coin to purchase hundreds of ori picks. In the end, all you get for the MAM Pick is convenience, something that is already available from the Gem Shop in the form of boosters, BL keys, other types of harvesting tools, repair canisters, express access consumables, and so on.

In other words, this item is completely consistent with how the gem store has operated since launch. 75.37.20.250 17:57, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

the game has buy to win features since launch, considering you can buy gold for money.—The preceding unsigned comment was added by 177.156.251.53 (talk • contribs).

On the contrary, buying gold is hardly pay-to-win: all it gets you is max stats and/or cool looking items. Various forums are full of posts by people with top gear who have trouble succeeding in PvP, WvW, Dungeons, and PvE. At best, you could argue it's buy-to-bypass-grind. 75.37.20.250 19:45, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

"Buy to bypass grind" is a good way of putting it. By definition, there's nothing in the gem store that you can't get in-game, because you can use in-game money to buy gems. talk 19:48, 16 April 2013 (UTC)

Soulbound on Use

They could have at least made it account bound for that price. Bunch of money grubbing, capitalistic bookahs is what they are. » Keneth O'Connor, 18:15, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

Well, if you hate capitalism you can chose a game developed in a communist country. If they ever developed one. —The preceding unsigned comment was added by 177.156.251.53 (talk • contribs).

Implying capitalism and communism are the only two socio-economic orders in the world. And please learn to sign your comments. » Keneth O'Connor, 18:37, 15 April 2013 (UTC)

I totally agree! Should be account bound otherwise it favors those with money which I would construe as an advantage even if it isn't a in-game advantage. Moving 1 around would still be inconvenient so they shouldn't worry about people just being totally satisfied with 1.Cinnamongod 20:47, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

I agree, all other gathering tools are account-bound, so this should be too. Its up to the buyer if he wants to have less hassle by buy more then one and the ones that don't will settle for one or even none. S_Serpent 81.82.249.14 09:45, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

It should definitely be account-bound. I have eight alts, and I'm not sure which will most often be harvesting Ori, but that's the one I want with this pick. I'd like to not have to lock that choice in. 68.49.91.131 01:51, 11 May 2013 (UTC)

Love this

I wish I could count how many times I've walked past a Copper node as I didn't want to waste my Ori pick on it or used a Copper pick on an Ori node. Now I no longer have to worry. If they add an Axe and Sickle I would buy these too. Price could be cheaper though tbh :/ --SK 13:50, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

This is not a forum (forum is here)

I'd like to remind everyone that the subject of talk pages should be the quality, accuracy and content of their respective connected pages, not individual opinions on what those pages are about. Personally I'd love to tag this talk page for deletion as it's entirely off topic. --zeeZ (talk) 16:12, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

In fact, it's only off-topic if you're solely focused on the mechanics. The first entry above is about whether the item offers an in-game advantage -- if it did, that would be noted on the article. The second and third entries relate to whether the item is cost-effective, a type of analysis found in many articles, especially for skills. Admittedly, few of the contributors on this page are phrasing their comments about the article, but the ideas are still useful.

Actually, there is one section of this talk page that is completely off-topic: this one. It has nothing to do with the content or presentation of the article and it's only purpose is to discourage discussion. If you think individuals are being disruptive, talk to those contributors. Otherwise, the wiki isn't harmed if people express some excitement or distress over new content. 75.37.23.33 16:23, 18 April 2013 (UTC)

We don't police talk pages, but irrelevant topics can be disruptive to actual discussion about the article.--Relyk ~ talk > 03:07, 19 April 2013 (UTC)

Black lion Chest Drops?

Is there a chance to drop out of Black Lion Chests while they are available?Cinnamongod 20:57, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

It hasn't been stated, and I think it'd be kind of silly for a single 800 gem, limited-availability item to randomly drop from BL chest. Mediggo 21:28, 26 April 2013 (UTC)

The Availability is wrong

According to the gw2 website the Molten Alliance Mining Pick is availability until May 13th not just during the month of April, i would change it myself but I don't know how (proof https://www.guildwars2.com/en/news/red-hot-new-items-in-the-gem-store-now/)

The the "april" notation only applies to the second bullet, assuming that the pick is available from the monthly as a bonus item. The link you've listed only indicates availability via the gem shop and I've updated the article to reflect that. 75.36.178.111 19:36, 29 April 2013 (UTC)

Availability

When it says "Available for a limited time only" does that mean:

• It won't be sold after a certain date? (But those purchased stay in-game)
• It will no longer be an in-game item after a certain date? (as in it disappears from purchasers inventories; like maybe when Flame and Frost ends)

If it was wording 'Available for PURCHASE for a limited time' I wouldn't be asking; but it's not labelled as such. The wording kind of makes me worried about purchasing... Lancour 14:22, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

The official announcement says "is only available from April 15 to May 13 in the Services category" and since you don't select your mining tools from the services category, implies that the availability is limited in the store. After purchase it's persistent. Also, where exactly was that text? I can't seem to quickly find it. --JonTheMon 14:42, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm going with the in-game description, if you look at this wiki's 'Gem Store' tab and the description tied to it there. Unlimited use items for GW (1 and 2) has never been one I cared for. It's always been for costume transformation or something else cosmetically. There never was a unlimited alcohol or sugar point one, nor an unlimited salvage kit or something. It was always unlimited for a cosmetic change: it had no game benefit other than visual effects. This to me seems too great an unlimited item compared to other current (and historical) unlimited items (yeah I'm a pessimist). Lancour 15:08, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Ah, that's where the text is at. Well, since the official announcement implies availability for purchase and Anet really hasn't made anything time sensitive after purchase w/o being explicit, it's more than likely in-game permanent. It'd really have to be to make it worth the investment. --JonTheMon 15:28, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

I don't think there's ever been anything you buy from the Gem Store that's not permanent (other than consumables, obviously). That would kinda be cheating. —Dr Ishmael 15:35, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

I'm kinda playing devil's advocate here: I am really tempted to buy it (debate in my head is mad farming for conversion or just real world money it). I'm just really on the fence, on one hand:

• This is unique for unlimited items: it's not just cosmetic
• Wording here doesn't specify: interpretation is subjective
• This wouldn't be the first time a corporation/business nails it's own customers on a technicality: not the first and certainly not the last

But on the other hand:

• It can be purchased with real world money: considering it was not really a real world money purchase before, which corporation/business doesn't want more money in there pocket?
• (With above) If it is permanent and considering the demand (assumption by me considering gem price spike) then I guess the dollar signs in their eyes will be doing the rest of the resource gathering tools: $10 per character who plays is alot, $30 for each is better....
• (Ditto continue) If this unlimited item is so successful then what stops other unlimited items? Unlimited Black Lion Keys? Unlimited Salvage Kits? Unlimited Mystic Forge Stones? (drool...) I'd go so far as to say they would only have to argue on where to set the Gem cost....Lancour 16:32, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

There is already an infinite use axe and sickle probably released in the next game release--Relyk ~ talk > 16:56, 3 May 2013 (UTC)

Future Availability?

I know that no one can predict the future, so this topic may be unproductive. What I'd like to know is, will this item become available again in the future? Because right now I can't afford to buy gems with in-game gold, and I prefer to not indulge the micro-transaction system by purchasing gems. Could this item become available on an annual (or even biannual) basis like the Super Adventure Box? --XacTactX 22:19, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

It explicitly says "For a limited time only", so I doubt it. It will be removed either at the end of Flame and Frost or after the Lost Shores chapter is completed. We don't know when SAB is coming back.--Relyk ~ talk > 22:26, 6 May 2013 (UTC)

Bug maybe?

this thing has given me ruined chunks of ore twice now is it a bug?
Ditto. Latest was on a rich vein of gold in Dredgehaunt Cliffs. Thorn17 00:54, 8 September 2013 (UTC)

Extremely efficient?

Does anyone know if this is "Extremely efficient at gathering resources and uncovering rare components." ? 76.118.169.254 02:28, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

It's equivalent to Orichalcum mioning pick.--Relyk ~ talk > 02:32, 14 May 2013 (UTC)

Item ID

[&AgFPowAA] (41807) is for the soulbound version. [&AgElvwAA] (48933) is for the account bound version. BryghtShadow (talk) 07:02, 16 March 2014 (UTC)

Discontinued?

Not anymore, was re-introduced back to the gemstore, I _think_ sometime around the end of January --BramStoker (talk, contribs) 00:26, 2 March 2015 (UTC)