Talk:List of scouts in the Shiverpeak Mountains

This page is specific for the scouts of gw2. It explains where each scout can be found. That information is not redundant and therefore should remove this page from elimination candidacy. The other information provided is specific for each heart and is, therefore, redundant, but is necessary to provide complete information regarding the scouts. As one progresses through the game and reveals hearts of reknown, the scout icon disappears from the world map, and therefore the scout becomes nearly impossible to find. People who wish to speak to each scout throughout the game may find this information very useful, especially if they find they have accidentally revealed the hearts and made the scout icon vanish. ~Mervil 23:53, 3 October 2012 (UTC)

*sigh* I had written up a response, pressed save page, got an edit conflict and didn't catch that quick enough before closing the window, thus losing what I typed.

"specific for the scouts" Except that it's not. Most of the information here is denoting on [[List of hearts in the Shiverpeak Mountains]] - scout name, heart NPC, heart goal, heart location, and heart level are all denoted on that page. The only thing not denoted is the scout's location, which can easily be added. I do not think that these lists are really necessary, considering how unimportant scouts are. You can play the game talking to only one scout the entire time (the one forced upon you right after the tutorial) and there'd be no difference.

"The other information provided is specific for each heart and is [...] necessary to provide complete information regarding the scouts." Actually, no it's not. A list of scouts only needs 3 things: 1) Scout name. 2) Scout location. 3) Heart name. This page lacks the third and includes 4 unnecessaries (all being on the other page). The only way I'd see these pages worth keeping is to denote only those three. However, at that point the lists would become so thin that all List of scouts pages can be merged into a singular [[List of scouts]] page. In either case, this article will be/still is redundant and thus be deleted. Konig/talk 00:11, 4 October 2012 (UTC)

Well, then add the scout location to the hearts list and be done with it. However, I KNOW im not the only one who relies on scouts, or at least feels drawn to find and talk to each and every one for shear "completionists" sake. No matter how unimportant you think scouts are, that doesn't take away from the fact that there are people out there who DO think they are important, and want to know where they are. When I find that I have missed a scout, I need a resouce (say, a page on guildwiki) where I can go find that scouts information. Instictually, I'm gonna search for "scout" in the search box. I'm not gonna be searching for "renown heart". Then, when I find that scout page, its just convenient to have the rest of the renown hearts information there, even if it is duplicated somewhere else. Is there a rule that says a guildwiki page can't contain the same information that is listed on another page? ~Mervil 01:11, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

I'm with Mervil, here. Whenever I endeavor to get 100% exploration on a map, I focus all of my initial efforts on locating and talking to every scout on the map. If you reveal hearts on a map, the scout icon associated with those hearts will be removed from the map. This has happened to me a few times. Naturally, the first place I came was the wiki, but the scout pages did not exist at the time and I was pissed. What kind of wiki doesn't have info on particular parts of the game? I feel that these pages are necessary, but that's my play style: I'm a completionist. But, even if I wasn't, this wiki is meant to document all aspects of the game- this includes scouts. Sure, the information is a bit redundant, but just as Mervil said, if I ever need to find a scout "Instictually, I'm gonna search for "scout" in the search box. I'm not gonna be searching for "renown heart"". Besides, having some redundant information is far better than the alternatives of either not documenting or having a ton of redirect pages. --Musha 01:33, 5 October 2012 (UTC)

So whats up with the scout pages being deleted? There were two people here touting that they should not be deleted, versus one person saying they should. Does that one person have enough authority just because they have the power, to delete wiki pages at will? There was a LOT of information contained on those pages that took me a very long time to accumulate and add. Some of that information could only be found on these pages, and now they're gone. Bring them back please. ~Mervil 20:29, 2 December 2012 (UTC)

I'd like to know, too. I found this page to be useful and I put work into building it as well. With no arguments for deleting it, and several against deleting it, you OWE us an explanation!! --Musha 07:12, 3 December 2012 (UTC)

So it seems that a good number have been updating the scout pages again whether they were aware of the deletion or not, surely this proves that people believe this information is useful in the long run no matter how redundant one person may think it is. As mentioned above - "wiki is meant to document all aspects of the game" - I will continue to update as best I can. Turial 11:05, 1 February 2013 (UTC)