Talk:Druid (group)

Concept Art

That's not even confirmed GW2 concept art. It's only works by one of the GW concept artists that is believed to be GW2. I personally don't see it being a GW-any concept art. And I think the title of it being "druid" refers to the smaller person, not the plant-like creature. -- Konig Des Todes 17:40, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

The original image was labeled 2009druidw.png, so it's possible that the "w" stands for woman, but I see a strong resemblance between the GW1 druids and that creature. Kotaki could have meant "Druid Woman" or he could have omitted the "and" for simplicity, which is what I think. There was a thread on GWG that had this concept art in it as well, and I can't remember what it is. I'll look for it. I'd be willing to come to a consensus in favor of deletion if this isn't even GW concept art.-- Shew 17:46, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I wonder if the "w" could mean "watcher".-- Shew 17:47, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

"So... Just to jump back in here, the only recent artwork that is confirmed as GW2 concept art is the one that has been labeled GW2 concept art, and that's the "Snow Battle" picture from the Into the Pixel website (http://www.intothepixel.com/artwork/...st_winners.asp), where one of our artists was a 2009 winner for that competition."

- Regina Buenaobra

I didn't realize she said that... I'm hanging on to that word that is probably NDA-inspired-- confirmed. -- Shew 18:01, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I recall that thread, and as Regina said, there is only one confirmed artwork. But again, that is confirmed so it could be, but it most certainly is not definate. Also, I do not see any similarities besides a plant-like look. I don't think one can go from spirit to flesh anyways (exceptional case being Shiro - he performed a dark ritual, something Druids wouldn't, and he was an Envoy). Another thing that separates the artwork from the druids would be that a hand is more axe-like, though this could change between games since the Druid was a re-skinned Oakheart. Also there is the size, the artwork is much bigger than the GW1 druid. More things point against that being artwork for the Druids than pointing towards it. -- Konig Des Todes 19:21, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

/sigh. That's a good point; the only other point in support of its being a druid that I can think of is that the Sylvari (assuming she's a Sylvari) seems to be aiding the creature. In support of the Druid being a class or something like that, I found some interesting dialogue from the quest, "Wisdom of the Druids."

"It is not often that we allow mortals to witness our rituals, but we see in you the seeds of the divine. To be divine is to realize that we are all one. That the self is an illusion. Through this do you understand your own immortality. Through this are you freed from the illusions of the flesh.

"Do not rush your understanding of these mysteries. Allow them to take root and mature gradually within you as the seedling in the soil."

It seems that the Sylvari have reached this state (Dream of Dreams).-- Shew 20:24, 31 July 2009 (UTC)

I do not think that the Dream of Dreams is what the Druid meant, though it is possible. I personally think the druid was referring to the philosophy where one thing is always important to the world. Most commonly known as (thanks to Disney) the "Circle of Life" - which simply means, when one is alive, they eat others (plants or animals), when one dies, others eat it. It's an unending circle where one thing affects all, and everything affects the one. Another popular media which has a reference to this is Fullmetal Alchemist. The Dream of Dreams on the other hand is a hive-like mind which is subject to just the Sylvari, not really "all things" as only the Sylvari can use it. -- Konig Des Todes 00:54, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

Haha, nice reference. I see what you mean, but I still think it's saying that as divine creatures, everyone is part of the same divinity, and one can live forever by acknowledging that he is the same divinity as any other being.-- Shew 01:07, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

That makes little sense to me. Becoming one with nature and, in effect, with life itself, allowing oneself to live longer would make more sense. Another thought would be that he views being a spirit as living as well, and seeing how many believe souls to be everlasting, would mean eternal life - but without flesh. I think one of those two is meant. Either way, whether I am right or your latest thought is right, that would still not be the Dream of Dreams. -- Konig Des Todes 02:53, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

In other words divinity is a defined state.-- Shew 04:24, 1 August 2009 (UTC)

(Reset indent) So now that we know all races can be all professions, I'm finding it hard to believe that "druid" refers to the sylvari (I don't think that the druid will be a profession)...still think it refers to the sylvari?-- Shew 03:01, 11 October 2009 (UTC)

In my opinion, druid would be a great profession, sort of like a sylvari ritualist, and as the norn can become a bear, the druids can become those things (does anyone else think that they look like a flesh golem composed of rocks?). Does anyone else like this idea? Raziel spiritflayer 01:41, 3 January 2010 (UTC)

This makes me think that the creature in "The Druid" is actually a druid because it seems the creatures featured in the file I linked represent aspects of the ranger-- pets & nature rituals. The nature spirits were mini druids, and it seems like they are still likely to look almost exactly the same.-- Shew ♠♠♠ 00:29, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

And the druid and nature ritual were spectral versions of Oakhearts, but this looks nothing like that. Also, nothing points to the druids, who were Krytan humans, ever having been plants (still). -- Konig/talk 01:07, 18 July 2010 (UTC)

Looks like this has been settled.-- Shew 20:00, 22 August 2010 (UTC)

Grammar fix?

Just seems like "Their current state is currently unknown." is a bit redundant. Perhaps a reword unless this is a quote from something. Eive Windgrace 05:44, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Their current state is currently unknown. It's not redundant. It's the same word used twice for different purposes. Their state as it is in GW2 is unknown as of right now. I.e., Their current state is currently unknown. -- Konig/talk 06:18, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Still, that is rather poor wording. I suggest changing it to "Their state as of GW2 is currently unknown" or something such as that. --173.190.25.63 22:16, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Changed it to "Their current state is unknown" - even though I don't think it is poor wording personally. -- Konig/talk 23:19, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Well it was grammatically correct, however it was a bit confusing (and debatably redundant in the sense that both are referring to the present time, whether you look at it as "present time" in GW or "present time" in our world). Making it "Their current state is unknown" will help prevent confusion and makes the message nicely clear, thanks Konig. :) --173.190.25.63 23:31, 9 April 2010 (UTC)

Edit request

See [[Druid/draft]]. –Santax (talk · contribs) 16:20, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

Boop. — snograt 16:28, 16 May 2014 (UTC)

'preciated :) –Santax (talk · contribs) 17:08, 17 May 2014 (UTC)