User talk:Geekfox
Thanks for filling in details[edit]
At Defend the seal until the Pact cannon is back online - can you rmember if it was a level 78 event, please? --Claret (talk) 10:44, 29 June 2013 (UTC)
moving pages[edit]
Hey there, I think I was able to clean up everything with the Risen Priest of Grenth. Next time you need to move a page over an existing redirect, simply tag the target page for deletion (and state the reason, that you need to move another page there - and please be sure to also note in the edit summary that you are tagging the page for deletion) and then be patient until an admin comes around to delete it. When you copy the page content and edit into another page, you lose the article's history, and that's important for maintaining continuity on the wiki.
You made a good effort, and we appreciate that, but now you know the proper procedure for the future. :) —Dr Ishmael 
12:44, 7 August 2013 (UTC)
Skritt Burglar[edit]
You corrected a location. Are you sure that it is not another location rather than a correction? There are many locations in each zone. --Claret (talk) 05:08, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
- Previously I thought it came from Whisperwill Bogs because the event popped up. That particular skritt actually came from Gleaner's Archway, which ran south from that POI into the swamp area. The fifth discovered chest was visually spotted at Risewild Hills, thus completing all chest locations in the map. There are only 5 API events of the Skritt Burglar in Bloodtide Coast, and only one chest can appear out of five particular spots at a time. Geekfox (talk) 08:46, 29 January 2014 (UTC)
Defeat the champion pages[edit]
Please do the following for those event pages:
- Include an otheruses notice template at the top of the page
{{otheruses|a specific champion event|other champion events|Defeat the champion}}
- Set the name parameter in the infobox
| name = Defeat the champion
- Pipe the self-link
[[Defeat the champion (...)|]](MediaWiki will magically remove the parenthesized part from the displayed text)
I made these changes to [[Defeat the champion (Champion Krait Hypnoss)]] as an example. Thanks for doing these! —Dr Ishmael 22:44, 24 April 2014 (UTC)
- Looks like you're almost done, I see 29 events listed on the disambiguation page. The last one is the Champion Modniir High Sage at Blackhold Mine Camp, I fought him a couple days ago. —Dr Ishmael 12:56, 3 May 2014 (UTC)
Upscaled enemies[edit]
I see you've added the upscaled enemies back to the page. The event should only document the enemies that the player will encounter on a normal basis, not if there's 25+ players present. If that was the case, each champion would have hundreds of events tied to them since they "spawn during an upscaled event". It's unnecessary and certainly not helpful to most players since the majority knows that upscaled = champions. --Ventriloquist 20:40, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
- Was there a discussion with others that agreed if upscaled mobs go in wiki pages or not? If an event qualified to have upscaled mobs, how do we note that on the event pages? Geekfox (talk) 21:08, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
- Technically speaking, every event can be upscaled. Whether it's by adding in more items to collect, more enemies per wave or inserting champions/elites/veterans, every event can be adjusted to more players. The wiki should focus on documenting the basis of an event, not its altered version. Let's say, for example, an event in which players are tasked with defeating several normal-ranked ghosts. The wiki should document just that, the objective and the foes encountered. Not the altered version, because for the most part, the players who encounter the event will 99.9% of the time face the unaltered version, the one with normal-ranked ghosts. Further more, once you add the upscaled creatures, you need to create their pages. Here's where another issue pops up, the pages would be nothing BUT a copy of the "normal" ranked one, except for the rank change. Now, there's a difference between an upscaled champion and a champion that can be encountered in the world. Upscaled-made champions use the exact same skills as their normal counterpart, but of course, deal more damage. With that being said, you should always try to avoid adding in duplicated information. --Ventriloquist 22:06, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
- Not all events can be upscaled to add in foes of Veteran or higher. Many events throughout Tyria are locked to normal ranked mobs while having 4 levels higher than players. Also, as you mentioned, foes capable of "rank upscaling" do not include normal champions that are part of the event, as evident while fighting Claw of Jormag, where players have already distinguished which additional champions to kill for champion bag loots while two other champions that normally spawn do not drop loots. Finally, some champions (while not all) have new skills and inflict new effects that are devastating to mass group of players, not just dealing more damage. Most infamous being Champion Corrupted Illusion which pounds the ground multiple times, and Champion Risen Jester which places timed bomb icon above players -- such skills elite or lesser ranks do not posses. As such these particular champions have a mention in the wiki, even though they do not spawn "normally"; they exist in-game otherwise. Back to the original question, which has been left unanswered? Geekfox (talk) 23:55, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
- There wasn't a discussion because it's common sense not to create repeated information on the wiki. Yes, I agree, there are some exceptions but the one you listed are group events (or should be treated as such), whereas the one you edited are just regular events that, once scaled up, spawn veterans or elites. It's a different thing to mention/create pages for the ones that use different skills, but not for Veterans or Elites that are just used as an extra damage sponge. That's the whole point of upscaling events, create additional enemies that won't die in 3 hits. You'll rarely see Jormag or Tequatl being three-manned, that's why the upscaled enemies SHOULD be mentioned on the page, but events such as Clear the jungle tendril and its roots, that can be soloed should not mention the upscaling, because most of the time, it won't happen and mentioning it or creating their pages; like I said many times before, creates redundant information that won't really change depending on whether a Jungle Tendril Root is a Champion or a Veteran. --Ventriloquist 00:15, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- So upscaled enemies during massive/popular group events are mentionables... got it. Geekfox (talk) 00:45, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- If it's tagged as a group event or requires group support, yeah. Hopefully, in the near future, we'll have a consistent way of formatting and there shouldn't be any confusion. Keep it up! --Ventriloquist 01:00, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- So upscaled enemies during massive/popular group events are mentionables... got it. Geekfox (talk) 00:45, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- There wasn't a discussion because it's common sense not to create repeated information on the wiki. Yes, I agree, there are some exceptions but the one you listed are group events (or should be treated as such), whereas the one you edited are just regular events that, once scaled up, spawn veterans or elites. It's a different thing to mention/create pages for the ones that use different skills, but not for Veterans or Elites that are just used as an extra damage sponge. That's the whole point of upscaling events, create additional enemies that won't die in 3 hits. You'll rarely see Jormag or Tequatl being three-manned, that's why the upscaled enemies SHOULD be mentioned on the page, but events such as Clear the jungle tendril and its roots, that can be soloed should not mention the upscaling, because most of the time, it won't happen and mentioning it or creating their pages; like I said many times before, creates redundant information that won't really change depending on whether a Jungle Tendril Root is a Champion or a Veteran. --Ventriloquist 00:15, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
- Not all events can be upscaled to add in foes of Veteran or higher. Many events throughout Tyria are locked to normal ranked mobs while having 4 levels higher than players. Also, as you mentioned, foes capable of "rank upscaling" do not include normal champions that are part of the event, as evident while fighting Claw of Jormag, where players have already distinguished which additional champions to kill for champion bag loots while two other champions that normally spawn do not drop loots. Finally, some champions (while not all) have new skills and inflict new effects that are devastating to mass group of players, not just dealing more damage. Most infamous being Champion Corrupted Illusion which pounds the ground multiple times, and Champion Risen Jester which places timed bomb icon above players -- such skills elite or lesser ranks do not posses. As such these particular champions have a mention in the wiki, even though they do not spawn "normally"; they exist in-game otherwise. Back to the original question, which has been left unanswered? Geekfox (talk) 23:55, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
- Technically speaking, every event can be upscaled. Whether it's by adding in more items to collect, more enemies per wave or inserting champions/elites/veterans, every event can be adjusted to more players. The wiki should focus on documenting the basis of an event, not its altered version. Let's say, for example, an event in which players are tasked with defeating several normal-ranked ghosts. The wiki should document just that, the objective and the foes encountered. Not the altered version, because for the most part, the players who encounter the event will 99.9% of the time face the unaltered version, the one with normal-ranked ghosts. Further more, once you add the upscaled creatures, you need to create their pages. Here's where another issue pops up, the pages would be nothing BUT a copy of the "normal" ranked one, except for the rank change. Now, there's a difference between an upscaled champion and a champion that can be encountered in the world. Upscaled-made champions use the exact same skills as their normal counterpart, but of course, deal more damage. With that being said, you should always try to avoid adding in duplicated information. --Ventriloquist 22:06, 19 July 2014 (UTC)
Spirit of All[edit]
Just curious about the page "Spirit of All" you created. It appears to be orphaned and I can't seem to find any reference to it anywhere to figure out if it actually exists or not. - Doodleplex 21:44, 20 September 2017 (UTC)
