Talk:List of necromancer traits

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Thought I'd give tables a try. Pretty much just copied the format and colour used in the Necromancer skills page. Took me frikkin' ages! (Xu Davella 17:08, 29 January 2011 (UTC))

err, and link... :) I don't know where to put in or how to organize the table so that it can say whether the trait is minor or major, input=good. (Xu Davella 17:09, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
I think those are kinda awesome. Add a row that lists them as major or minor, and maybe a row for the (lol) trait icons. Aqua (T|C) 17:13, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Aka as: am I allowed to edit? Aqua (T|C) 17:15, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
I'll add in another column listing each trait as minor or major, but we should think of another way to list it. Having a column with minor minor minor major minor is pretty annoying to look at. Unless we have icons that represent minor and major? (Xu Davella 17:20, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
*gasp* YES~!! of course!(Xu Davella 17:21, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
From the screenshot in the Trait, we can see the major trait are in star shape while the minor ones are in hexagon Chanw4 17:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Ah yeah that's right. So then we can just use the trait icons and not have to worry about adding in that other column at all. (Xu Davella 17:29, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
Eh, I would prefer trait icons to go in the same column as the trait name I think. And see what I did with Major vs Minor... Aqua (T|C) 17:33, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
I think he meant a Major and Minor separation is not needed since the icon will tell the user whether it is a Major or Minor trait like you don't seperate elite and non-elite in GWW Chanw4 17:36, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Regardless, major vs minor should be distinguished by more than a 25 pixel tall icon. We have as much space as we need, why not make it a helpful reference?
Right now, when I see that, I think, "what trait line?" I pick Soul Reaping. Then I think, "what type am I looking for?" I pick major, and then I have a list of all the traits with their trait icons and descriptions right there. Aqua (T|C) 17:38, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

eh, I would have done it the retarded way - I like it. Those minor/normal/superior traits are a pain to look at. (Xu Davella 17:40, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
And now both are good. Aqua (T|C) 17:50, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Should we wait for further input? I'm happy for it to be put into the main article. (Xu Davella 17:53, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
The answer to the "should we wait" question is yes. But I have provided a way to kill that time. I'm going to make all the other profession ones (not sure about guardian), in the page you linked to, and then yeah, people can decide i f they like them or not. Aqua (T|C) 17:56, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
By the time I write "is there anything you want me to do" you would have already done everything. So I'm going to float around like a mofo and pretend I'm making a contribution. :P (Xu Davella 18:05, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
There's a "you rock" in there somewhere. (Xu Davella 18:07, 29 January 2011 (UTC))
Thank you. I try. ;) (In other news, only ranger and (lol) guardian). Aqua (T|C) 18:42, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

(Reset indent) DONE! Aqua (T|C) 19:03, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

IMO, it feels a bit too... Blocky? I would add the different colors (to help in telling apart major and minor traits) such as we have on the skill lists, and increase the width a bit; I think even under lower resolutions there is still plenty of empty space to the right. Erasculio 21:54, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
There really is barely any space left.. - Infinite - talk 22:06, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
We could do percentages, but I'm a bit skeptical. Aqua (T|C) 22:08, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
This is kinda ulgy : P Erasculio 22:10, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Is that after or before I did percentages? Aqua (T|C) 22:12, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) I know, have you seen my resolution? Everything is white. I think low resolutions > high resolutions. It's better if low resolutions can ACTUALLY view it all. :P - Infinite - talk 22:13, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Also, please revert that percentage-based, it's terribly inconsistent. :X - Infinite - talk 22:13, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) Before. Looks good to me now, but we need to see what it looks like on lower resolutions. Erasculio 22:14, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Comparison: [[:File:User Infinite Myeah.jpg]] If percentage; please set an equal max width to all. - Infinite - talk 22:17, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

How bout now? Aqua (T|C) 22:23, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
I would prefer something very slightly bigger (75%, maybe?), but it's good enough for me as it is. Erasculio 22:24, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
(Edit conflict) Almost, I think 80% max should do it on smaller (although that makes it spaced on bigger), let me have a go, please. - Infinite - talk 22:25, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
I think this is going to hit very high resolutions, though... I'll re-try. - Infinite - talk 22:27, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Is that okay with everyone? - Infinite - talk 22:28, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
That is good. Aqua (T|C) 22:43, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Max-width[edit]

I'm on my Wii, is it still consistent everywhere? - 84.31.15.202 23:03, 29 January 2011 (UTC)

Doesn't look like it. - Lucian User Lucian.png 23:04, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Then I don't understand why.. - 84.31.15.202 23:08, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
Can anyone find out why? - 84.31.15.202 23:11, 29 January 2011 (UTC)
It doesn't help, but it's consistent on my phone! :D - 84.31.15.202 00:01, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
It is consistent on my phone as well. Aqua (T|C) 00:11, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Oops, I thought u said inconsistent. - Lucian User Lucian.png 0:43, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Well, we can't leave it like this; it breaks low resolutions, can I have a go at them again? Cheers~ - Infinite - talk 16:50, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

It was incosistent previously...but have fun... Aqua (T|C) 16:53, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
Well? :) - Infinite - talk 16:54, 30 January 2011 (UTC)
'Tis good. Aqua (T|C) 18:28, 30 January 2011 (UTC)

Trait Icons[edit]

As Chriskang brought up, there is no usage of trait icons on these pages anymore. I would like to mention that I had previously "show-previewed" a trait icon next to the trait name or even in another column, neither looked that good, as the icons we do have a rather low in quality, and the ones we don't have make it mostly empty space. I would suggest waiting on the usage of trait icons until we can get high quality ones (from screen shots or otherwise). Aqua (T|C) 00:29, 30 January 2011 (UTC)


Changes[edit]

It seems those attribute traits do not apply anymore, since the attribute mechanics has been changed. Do we have any update from this based on the last demo? - Guldur

Traits updated from beta weekend of March 23 - 25[edit]

The traits have been updated from the most recent beta via this youtube video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxa5wGYTSbo. Peregrination 17:33, 26 March 2012 (UTC)

Faulty Link[edit]

I don't know how to edit the info inside the boxes, but someone who does needs to fix the redlink under Death Magic Jagged Horror and make it Jagged Horror. ~ Bow User Bow Sig.png | 08:08, 2 June 2012 (UTC)

You had to edit the trait itself. But i've done it for you. Gnarf 08:51, 2 June 2012 (UTC)
I'll keep that in mind next time. Thanks. ~ Bow User Bow Sig.png | 18:13, 2 June 2012 (UTC)