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is that vulacno in charr homlands or in that black isle north of kryta and west of the far shiverpeaks?

Hmm, curious. It could be either, I suppose. Calor Talk 19:42, 6 March 2008 (UTC)
Or maybe it could be neither, and be something we haven't seen yet. Cress Arvein 02:08, 7 March 2008 (UTC)
That island up topside is just creepy to think about, I mean it's just stuck up there and has had no connection to anything ingame. I'm thinking that's the place.Haru 21:20, 23 May 2009 (UTC)


Sorry for asking, but I haven't see any source about this city/outpost/point of interest. As far as I remember, there is neither a note in "The Movement of the World" nor in Guild Wars. Thank you. 22:18, 11 January 2009 (UTC)

The Ecology of the Charr. --User Pling sig.png Pling \ talk 23:06, 11 January 2009 (UTC)
Thank you. Never heard of it before. ANet should publish such articles also in other countries. ^^ 21:56, 12 January 2009 (UTC)


This article is filled with speculation. For instance, where does it say that Hrangmer is where the capital of the Gold Legion is located at? Or the Burnt Legion being the gods - it sounds that the Shaman Caste are the collective leaders of the Charr Legions, *as it says that the Shamens of opposing legions swore to follow the Flame Legion. And for the portal thing, it seems more possible that it is a portal made by Odran there - not one that leads to the Foundry of Failed Creations. I'm just going to remove the speculation and redo the article based on what is known. -- Konig Des Todes 21:04, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

In 'The Ecology of the Charr' - "With their mystic power shattered and their Shamans reviled, they barely had enough strength left to fight off the other legions and stay alive. The broken legion retreated northeast to their primary citadel at Hrangmer." - 06:28, 25 November 2009 (UTC)


In the trailer there was a charr from the shaman caste and he created a charr effigy in what looked like a volcano this might be Hrangmer? would kinda make sense because what charr would want to visit the place they found their old gods but the shamans and I bet they would have known exactly where it is. - Giant Nuker 01:11, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

I'd hardly call that a Charr Effigy, to be honest. It is far too different from the previous Charr Effigy and seems more of a transformation than a summoning. Also, the beast is only fire and what seems to make the outline of the creature is translucent. It could easily be where Primordus is - or in fact, any volcanic place in the Depths (CoF, Kathandrax, HoS, and various other places show lava in the Depths, so it can easily be anywhere in the Depths). -- Konig/talk 01:16, 19 September 2009 (UTC)

South east Ascalon?[edit]

Did I miss some thing or were does it say the volcano was located there? I don't think it is possible that it is on the fire isle, but is this part of the "Konig Speculation Project?" User:Huginn--Talk 14:55, 26 November 2009 (UTC)

Southeast? Though I typed North east... Also, Ring of Fire Islands are south west. -- Konig/talk 16:55, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Just looked, it does say north east. As for where it says that, Ecology of the Charr. For what is said, look under in this section on this page. It is northeast of somewhere of the Charr Homelands, and no matter where it would be northeast of, it is still northeast of Ascalon, so I put northeast of Ascalon. -- Konig/talk 16:58, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Sorry for the three edits, but I want to state, I don't put speculation on the articles. Nor is there a "Konig Speculation Project" - I remove speculation, or ask for the source (like I did above a long time ago). -- Konig/talk 16:59, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
Seeing as there's nothing really volcanic looking near Ascalon, I'd have said that it was on the island to the north introduced with the GW:EN map update. But since you said northeast... --Santax (talk · contribs) 17:53, 27 November 2009 (UTC)
It is off of the GW1 map, so we cannot see an exact location yet. -- Konig/talk 19:22, 27 November 2009 (UTC)

jaws of oblivion[edit]

shows i heven't slept in days. when i read "jaws of oblivion' here i was terribly confused, wondering when the subject changed to the elder scrolls series (jaws of oblivion was a metaphor used it some of the earlier main quests). yeah i deffinately need to sleep every now and then, may keep me on track, though i think my train of thoguth derailed after the first day of no sleepAkbaroth 15:31, 16 March 2010 (UTC)

Concept art?[edit]

I was thinking of adding the Hrangmer concept art (by Kekai Kotaki) to the article, but became a little bit unsure whether or not it's really showing Hrangmer(?). It is indicated to be Hrangmer by Creative Uncut and Video Games Artwork, but is this cannon or not? ---- Titus The Third User titus the third.png 09:24, 18 February 2014 (UTC)