Talk:Dwayna

Some note on healers giving her respect? -- Armond Warblade 22:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

Blame the monk goddess. Lord Belar 00:06, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

You mean how Balthazar's pendulum hit Dwayna right in the kisser? Besides, is respect and god-fearing the same thing? Kai Nui 15:07, 12 February 2008 (UTC)

Close enough for general purposes, separate for everything else. -- Armond Warblade 08:00, 18 February 2008 (UTC)

doric vs. dorin

i nocticed the note on this page about doric, but when i checked my GW manuscripteds it said dorin, leading me to assume that whoever put that note there didn't look quite close enough. i'd edit it myself, but i have no self confidance and have never edited anything on any wiki site b4

I have no idea what these "GW manuscripts" are supposed to be, but it must be just a typo. The name is Doric, if you go to Temple of the Ages and click on the Statue of Dwayna, it'll show you the text that is on this article, using the name Doric. Take a look at King Doric for more info about this character. --Dirigible 11:52, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

The game manual if you buy the boxed set. I believe it can also be downloaded as a PDF file from the website. It contains a lot of the lore/backstory. Calor 19:29, 7 March 2008 (UTC)

nvm i reread my manuscripts, it was a man called Doric :/ srry. i still doubt it's the same story, two different doric. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:67.171.247.5 (talk) .

About the Note

(Note: It is an unsolved mystery why the inscription is dated "115 BE" when the described event happened about 115 years later, just before the Exodus of the Gods.) How do we know that this is the same Doric as King Doric? Seeing how in the scriptures he is called simply Doric and not King Doric, I don't think they are the same - at the very least from the same time. Also, the scriptures make it appear as if it was only Dwayna who gave audience with this "Doric" - so if it is the same Doric, than shouldn't it say that Doric went to the gods *gods being Dwayna, Melandru, and Balthazar - the three gods who lived in Arah* and not that Dwayna went to Doric? If this is the same person, than there are far more contradictions than just the date. So I think this is two different "Doric"s. -- Konig Des Todes 02:32, 3 April 2009 (UTC)

Because perhaps it would be idiotic to put the same name of two people in the game, with one being important, and expect people to understand they are different. Also considering both names are used in a similar, if not the very same, lore story.

• (poor man) hi my name is rurik
• (Prince) wtf thats my name!
• (poor man) thankyou, your name makes me look good
• (Prince) what if the people confuse us?
• (poor man) its ok, I dont mind

Justice 14:57, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Yes, I realized my mistake after I saw the description for the gw1:King's Watch Monument which says Doric was crowned 100 years prior to it's founding, which were 99 BC and 1 AE respectively (also said Doric died, so the blood used for the bloodstones might have been more than a mere "drop") which proves that King Doric was alive in 99 BC, and it wouldn't be too far to say he was around more than 16 years prior (Although he'd be old as fuck when he died). -- Konig Des Todes 19:33, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

Edit: Although I still don't think the two events are the same, or else it would have said King Doric, not Doric. -- Konig Des Todes 19:35, 27 May 2009 (UTC)

I would get wrather bored calling you konig des todes. Im more likely to call you todes on occasion to prevent saying the same name over and over and over. I still cant believe anyone would use such an odd name in guild wars lore to mean two different people.--Justice 00:43, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

There are other instances where two names are used in different places and are either not the same or not likely to be the same (later would be in reference to NPCs). So it is possible. And people would not drop a title such as King, those never get dropped when talking of someone in different locations. But you didn't seem to get what I said previously "I realized my mistake after I saw the description for the gw1:King's Watch Monument which says Doric was crowned 100 years prior to it's founding, which were 99 BC and 1 AE respectively..." -- Konig Des Todes 07:36, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

Perhaps i did. But i didnt miss "So I think this is two different "Doric"s." I suppose it really doesnt matter, I just want to play gw 2 lol--Justice 07:55, 28 May 2009 (UTC)

The Monk God?

Soooo...with no monks in GW2 what happends to Dwayna she change looks/professions to??? Shes suppose to be a monk. Right? Maybe someone can find some info on that? - 74.171.163.219 07:14, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

"Shes suppose to be a monk. Right?". No, she's not. Read the article again, please. Every human might actually worship her as all professions are confirmed to have some healing potential. Also, please don't post the same comment on different pages, it just makes the discussion harder to follow. Chriskang 08:39, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

No god is related to a specific profession. Every god has some link to multiple professions in GW1. For instance, Paragons took on Dwayna and Balthazar - Elementalists took on the five original gods - Monks took on Dwayna and Balthazar. Etc. Dwayna didn't have a profession dedicated solely to her. -- Konig/talk 20:57, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Lyssa was pretty much mutually exclusive to mesmers (although, I think assassins were tacked on later - following multiple gods). Of course, there had better be mesmers in GW2. -~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) 21:10, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

Lyssa is the Elementalists' Energy Storage god. No god was ever exclusive to a single profession. -- Konig/talk 21:23, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

"... pretty much mutually exclusive ..."

Elementalists pretty much don't count, since they have one attribute from each god. -~=Ϛρѧякγ (τѧιк) 21:27, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

They're still a profession. You can't kick out one fact just because it disproves what you want. That's incorrect and biased. -- Konig/talk 22:16, 16 July 2010 (UTC)

I was unaware of a link between Energy Storage and Lyssa. However, she most certainly was connected with Assassins and Mesmers; thus multiple professions. A F K When Needed 23:38, 23 July 2010 (UTC)

Dwayna may possibly switch on what she represents in GW2 (such as a new profession) but she herself is like a classes fighter who could embrace any at her will. She is a goddess in the series.--BookofTyria 00:39, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

I think she is the goddess of the guardians Gschmechel25 04:21, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Recent interview just said they're not tied to gods at all... Eive 04:27, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

Seen it. IMO, I think Anet is trying to steer from that since its not just the human gods anymore and the fact that certain professions cease to exist in #2. - Lucian 4:49, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

The gods were never "the" god of a profession, rather they were the patron god of the profession from the human viewpoint - there's 2 main differences: 1) Patron means that it's not universal, so there will be human necromancers not worshiping Grenth, for instance. Probably very rare, but can occur. 2) It's not the role of the god, but rather how humans work their own profession; that is, humans shape professions to fit the gods, rather than the gods being fit for the profession or creating the profession. Since the profession is for all races, it isn't unique to the god, but rather the connection between god and profession is unique to the humans. -- Konig/talk 07:00, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

I don't know why you still bother to argue that point Konig. No one seems to understand it, and if they do, they ignore it. Eive 07:52, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

I recall another interview stating that monks aren't actually excluded from GW2, there is a story as to why they are not an active profession. (1.155.77.29 12:01, 2 February 2011 (UTC))

The whol "LF monk" was the main reason. Anet re-explains on the newest news thread - Lucian 14:51, 2 February 2011 (UTC)

In GW1 player and hero elementalist being able to switch elements is game mechanics not lore. NPCs don't change elements. Cynn for example is always fire. Headmaster Vhang is always air. So they wouldn't be changing gods either. You need to remember that player characters are not normal people. They can do things ordinary Tyrians can't. Ramei Arashi 18:00, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

Your entire argument is backwards.

"NPCs don't change elements."

Argo and Kai Ying are outside. I think they'd like a word with you.

"So they wouldn't be changing gods either."

Okay. The Apostate used to worship Abaddon. Then stopped. Scorch Emberspire used to worship the Titans. Then stopped.

Actually, is the entire Charr race not obvious proof that you're wrong? A F K When Needed 19:40, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

NPCs could change the element they use. They just prefer one. For instance, Azure is mainly a fire elementalist (based on her dialogue), but she uses gw1:Ward Against Harm, a water magic elite - likewise, she dislike air magic.

Similarly, changing professions or even faith is possible to NPCs - the former not for PCs though. Konig/talk 20:02, 18 February 2012 (UTC)

I think that we are forgetting that no matter who may view Dwayna or any of the other Gods as their Patron God humanity still prays to all of the Gods no matter their profession. I remember it saying in the Game Manual for Factions (I think) that people pray to Dwayna for healing, Balthazar when they go to war and that they provide offerings to Melandru when they travel so they may have a safe journey. I think they purposefully gave each God a role in the attributes of the professions but I don't think they were intended to ever be exclusive. Also, not sure if I actually posted this right...new to wiki Ravencloud 20:40, 1 May 2012 (UTC)