User talk:Magua

I'm not the greatest at doing complicated things on a wiki, so I mostly just go around and correct little things when I find mistakes, or point out the mistakes if a bigger solution than I can provide is needed. Magua 14:20, 10 September 2012 (UTC)

rich veins

Hey, I've reverted your edits to the metal node pages about the number of hits on rich veins. Per the responses I got here, rich veins definitely give 10 hits. There was mention of a bug where sometimes 2 hits can occur simultaneously on the third swing of the animation, which could explain why you only see 8 hits (1+1+2, 1+1+2, 1+1 = 10 actual hits in 8 animation hits). Check the number of uses on your mining pick (obviously don't use an infinite tool) before and after mining a rich vein, it should always decrease by 10.

I checked your contributions and saw that you did ask about this on Talk:Platinum Ore (node), but no one replied. That's because the wiki isn't all that good at being a discussion forum - you're better off asking questions like this on reddit (as I did) or on the official forums. —Dr Ishmael 19:05, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

I always used to get 10, but the last month at least I only get 8. Pick mines in sets of 3, and the vein is always gone after 2 swings of the 3rd set. To get the 10th I'd need to start a 4th mine, which hasn't happened for me in quite a while now on all types of rich vein. I'll double check pick uses next time. Magua (talk) 19:16, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Check the actual number of ores you get - it's still 10 (sometimes more due to gathering bonuses). I don't know when exactly, or why, they changed it so the swings are off. The veins still function the same as always though. Vili 点 19:24, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Sorry yeah, paid more attention this time and you seem to double mine on the 3rd and 6th hits, making 10 total. It's something they did in a (fairly)recent update cause you always used to swing 10 times, which is what threw me off on the wrong path in the first place. Magua (talk) 19:30, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

It's been happening since at least April 28, as I have a video saved of this specific issue that is dated then. --★KOKUOU★ 20:25, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Apparently this isn't a universal issue, because I still have to swing 10 times on every rich vein. I have never had only 8 swings. Let me restate that I only play PvE - if this only affects WvW rich veins, then obviously I wouldn't see it. —Dr Ishmael 21:35, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

It definitely happens on certain nodes, I got a guildmate to take a video for you: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eJy63Yvp5A8 Heavywater (talk) 22:11, 16 June 2014 (UTC)

Welp, there's proof - 2 simultaneous uses on the third animation swing. It's still 10 uses of the node.

Revised hypothesis - it doesn't affect infinite tools, because that's all I've been using since April. If all else fails - it doesn't affect me because I'm special. /shrug —Dr Ishmael 01:30, 17 June 2014 (UTC)

Update: my revised hypothesis is correct. I just mined the same rich iron node (Reaver's Dale) on two characters. The first used the Molten Mining Pick and took 10 swings, each swing giving 1 stack of ore. The second used a plain Mithril Mining Pick and only took 8 swings, identical to Heavywater's friend's video. That explains why I never noticed this. —Dr Ishmael 01:46, 17 June 2014 (UTC)