Talk:Grenth

Should we include information about GW1 worshipers, quests, etc? I'm kind of favoring a minimalist approach here. -- Armond Warblade 22:41, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

No gw1, we've got gww for that. Lord Belar 00:02, 6 January 2008 (UTC)

"Darkest of the gods" What about abbadon, he may not be a god anymore, but he was certanly darker.--Zoldon 23:36, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Of the Six Gods is implied. Abaddon was darker, probably, however. Calor (t) 23:41, 7 January 2008 (UTC)

Abaddon was evil, Grenth is darker. While the use of "darker" implies evil as well, and vice versa, that is not the case. Grenth is viewed like many of the gods of death from various polytheistic religions - as a dark, neutral *not evil*, sometimes greedy, judge who wishes to increase his number of subjects. Although the last part has not really been shown with Grenth, the others are at least implied. My main point is that dark and evil are not the same so that statement is actually accurate. Although if you include fallen and demi gods, that may not be the case. -- Konig Des Todes 03:49, 7 April 2009 (UTC)

Grenth being called "dark" could be a reference to a more shady and mysterious god instead of being completely evil.--BookofTyria 00:32, 4 January 2011 (UTC)

I bet Grenth likes Metalica. - 74.171.163.219 12:48, 11 February 2011 (UTC)

I bet Grenth likes Lady Gaga.

umm was that necessary??--Icyyy Blue 02:27, 27 February 2011 (UTC)

wow lady gaga is awsome , sozz just had to say that cause i saw the comment --The preceding unsigned comment was added by 59.101.22.138 (talk).

Grenth's Father

"Grenth is the god of darkness, ice, and death. He was originally a half-god, his parents being Dwayna and a human sculptor" - isn't this pure speculation based on nothing?

Just by the quote from the statue, it seems pretty clear Grenth was around before Malchor came into the picture. I suggest this line gets a rewording that doesn't include anything about half-god and the human sculptor. Symphy 13:18, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

A priestess of Grenth late in the personal storyline says that Grenth being a half-god and the son of a "human sculptor" (never says Malchor, btw) and Dwayna is their best kept secret. It isn't speculation, not player speculation at least. Edit: Source on the human sculptor bit Konig/talk 15:12, 7 September 2012 (UTC)

I'm reading an orrian history scroll: "Grenth, son of Dwayna, first god born of Tyria. His powers deal in mortality and judgment. Defeater of Dhuum, Lord of the Seven Reapers, he is the prince of ice and sorrow. (next page) Standing before his immortal mother, Grenth claimed his place among the gods. Where his father had fallen, Grenth would rise." (emphasis added) Color me confused. It sounds like it's referring to Malchor's Leap, but Malchor made Grenth's statue, so he must've ascended before that. It could be implying his father was Dhuum, but if it meant to say that, it skipped over two other chances it would've made sense to make that explicit. And if Dwayna just had a thing for sculptors over the years, what is the father falling significance supposed to be? Unless Grenth's statue is actually Dhuum's statue and Grenth just inserted his own name... I dunno. - Tanetris 02:32, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Personally, I'm questioning those scrolls a bit. Firstly, they screw up Lyssa's names (calling them Lys and Issa when they're called Lyss and Ilya elsewhere multiple times), and they also say that Dwayna brought humanity to Arah from the Mists (or at least heavily implies such) when we know they've been in Cantha for 500 years+ and are implied to have come from further south by Jeff Grubb. And the lack of anything on Abaddon other than his name being erased and he betrayed the others really brings them into question of being of a good source (also add to them that they're written poetically). Not saying they're completely wrong, just that they have fallicious points in them.

Then again, do we even know Malchor sculpted Grenth? Or when he sculpted them in relation to Grenth's rise? He has a description of Grenth, sure, but that doesn't mean he sculpted them, and the only source for which gods Malchor interacted with outside Dwayna for sculpting was one that claimed Kormir was among the six at the time. Of course this all depends on when Malchor lived and died. If he made the sculptors after 48 BE, the only date given to Grenth's rise to power (the date placed in his GW1 scriptures about Desmina, his first follower), then he could easily have sculpted his own son. Konig/talk 02:45, 8 September 2012 (UTC)

Does he show up in the game?

Does he show up in the game? if so, where and how?--Knighthonor 00:20, 30 January 2013 (UTC)