File talk:Professions reveal 1 (Formidable).jpg

I hate to sound like some random speculator, but is this a portrayal of the 8 professions, or rather just an image put together for the amusement of fans? 8 professions seems quite reasonable, and they each seem to have differing weapon types (as well as silhouettes, obviously-- for instance; the shorter figure standing in front of the guy with an ax seems to have a similar silhouette as the thief concept art). Also, does the one on the far right have a gun, or am I mistaken? 75.90.149.4 14:38, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Weapons are not tied to professions on a 1:1 basis. All weapons act like the staves, wands, focii, and shields in GW1 - they are tied to multiple professions. BTW: I see what looks to be 1 charr, 2 norn, 2 asura, 2 sylvari and 1 human. And I'd say professions is a good guess, since martin said "the wait is nearly over" or something of the like with a link to this image when it was uploaded. My question is: Wait for what? ;)-- Konig/talk 16:27, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Oh, I see-- thank you for explaining! ^_^ Yes, I too wonder what he is planning.... it sounds intriguing. :) 75.90.149.4 16:32, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

By the way... I know Martin was one of the people who revealed the GDC videos, but exactly what position does he hold in this company? :D I just was curious because I didn't know if he was reporting what would come to be, or if he himself will be doing the "revealing". ^^ 75.90.149.4 16:34, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Martin Kerstein is a member of the community relations team. Primarily he looks after the german speaking side of the community, but he is around in the english speaking community too. I think that team knows what GW information is coming when and will probably be helping with the release of information when it comes. Like this image teaser. -- Aspectacle  22:35, 21 April 2010 (UTC)

Aaah I see, thank you very much! :) I personally have not spoken with Martin, but everyone who has says he is REALLY nice-- a wonderful trait for that kind of job! :D 75.90.149.4 01:34, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

As an aside, Josh Petrie and I think Regina also linked to the image on twitter. -- pling 14:53, 22 April 2010 (UTC)

Perhaps, i've been looking at the weapons and individual profession reveal pictures ONLY. And i'm starting to think that.. (in order from left to right) the chunky big one is like a heavily damage based melee user that uses two handed weapons and the spear looking weapon. But im probably most likely wrong. The next one, below the chunky big one is most probably a assassin/theif type that uses pistols. next: mabye its a spell caster type, like a necromancer or something totally new. elementalist (revealed), warrior(revealed), next up: after the warrior could most probably be a ranger because if you look at its individual professions reveal picture, the 2 slim objects towards the left could be a bow and arrow, people have argued that its a charr and mabye it could be, or mabye since the rangers are so intunned with the nature, it could be a leafy crown, or mabye its a sylvari icon? also, if the horizontal slim object left of the picture IS a animal's tail, then it really could be a ranger class. the next one is a bit hard to depict. It shows a female physique without any hints or tips. since the elementalist was pretty hard to depict with its original shadow, this profession could be a spellcaster, im hoping and guessing its a necromancer. The last one, which is most toward the right, is, according to the public, a "paladin" type professsion. I kinda think it is, perhaps its a monk type + a support type melee class? i unno.

New version: http://img714.yfrog.com/img714/8789/img2zu.jpg - slightly less obscured. -- pling 22:15, 23 April 2010 (UTC)

Name change

Move it back to the name that it was released as please -> Formidable. And move the Adaptable one back to the base name Adaptable. I think the next will be released with a different word associated with it - for example lovable, exceptionable, fashionable, bearable, intolerable and it would be good to record each image with the word. -- Aspectacle  22:42, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

I think Shewmake is doing that atm. :D Thanks Shew! 75.90.149.4 22:49, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

Of course, at the moment we don't know whether they meant "adaptable" as in the picture was adaptable and would be changing, or if they were going to apply a new name each time. We'll know for sure when the next picture comes out, and until then we should have each one with their given name (Formidable, Adaptable, etc). 75.90.149.4 22:50, 24 April 2010 (UTC)

I wonder when did people forget that the point of this wiki is to document the game. Which do you people honestly think is more important, to keep the original (and meaningless) file name used by Arena Net, or to let people know that those images (which, in the way they were uploaded, not only are orphaned, so no one is going to find them anytime soon, but also came apparently from nowhere) are part of a series of images meant to preview some new GW2 content? Really, it's rather obvious, and it's something people would already have done if they were spending more of their time on the main space and less time on talk pages and user pages. This name, "Adaptable concept art 0", is just a place holder, until we can change it to a more descriptive (and useful) filename such as "Professions teaser art 01". Erasculio 02:14, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Eras, there is no game to document - we're collecting news and information as it appears. Currently that is two images each with a different word attached to its release. Sure we haven't got them linked together yet, but there is so much uncertainty around information released like this. We can't be sure they're the professions so how do we confidently document or name something we aren't sure of? I consider it is better to wait until a pattern is clear and keep all information available before rushing to make decisions. There are many things we could do with these images and this information - do we have news stories for each one? is naming the best way to groups these or should we have a separate wiki page for the reveal with a gallery?

If you've got ideas share them, we all want to document the game and the information we're going to get. It is better if we cooperate and not compete to do that. Plus, it hurts when you accuse us caretakers of the scraps of information as if we don't care about what we're doing here. -- Aspectacle  02:48, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

"there is no game to document": that is a very flawed way to begin an argument, but anyway. It's exactly because we don't know for sure that those images are about the professions that I haven't yet changed the name of this image to something like "Professions teaser art 01".

However, we do know some things: those images have been released from Arena Net through Twitter, they have been released in a specific order, and they are teasing something which is coming soon. Before my edit to this image and the second one, none of those things were mentioned in this wiki's mainspace at all, so users coming here would have no way of learning about those things, which is an issue that needs to be corrected.

It's a nice thing to wait until you have more information to act, but it's a bit pointless to wait until whatever the teaser images are teasing to become public before making wiki users aware that those images even exist. Erasculio 03:00, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

I can't move it-- redirect pages exist atm, so they have to be deleted if the image is going to be moved back. I see your point, Erasculio, but what if "adaptable" only applies to the one character that they added in the newer version? Maybe we should just upload newer versions of one file with a neutral name like "Eight_Characters.jpg."-- Shew 03:08, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Or we could use a longer filename telling people both the original filename and that the image is one among a group of images, or we could keep the original filename and make a note in the article about how there other images in this series (a "See also" section explaining how those images have an order), or keep the current filename and make a note in the image page telling people the original filename (a "Notes" section explaining what the original filename was and why that's relevant).

Any of those would be good enough to me. Having a bunch of orphaned images with no mention to the link between them and to what they mean, in other hand, would not be good enough. Erasculio 03:13, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

I was thinking of doing a quick news article about there being a reveal going on leading to something interesting for Guild Wars 2 and then linking to our article tracking the reveal which we can keep up to date. Perhaps I call that page something like Eight characters reveal? Substitute characters for figures for extra vagueness? Move it to Eight professions reveal when we know? -- Aspectacle  03:15, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Sounds good. Are "Eight_characters-Formidable" and "Eight_characters-Adaptable" fine? Also, I think the temporary page is a good idea. "Characters" is fine for that-- they are characters. Let's wait until we know to decide whether or not to move it to "Eight professions reveal" because if, at the point, we know what the professions are, we can just add that to Profession.-- Shew 04:21, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Works for me. -- Aspectacle  05:15, 25 April 2010 (UTC)

Much better now, thank you. Erasculio 14:15, 25 April 2010 (UTC)