User talk:Infinite/Rant

New new rant

Looks like I'm the only one reading here...

I think at least guild categories might be useful to some degree, but only if there's more than 10 members or so. Though, if there's a guild page with all the members... Ah well. This is why I only use my own userboxes, without categories. :P Anyway, you did a pretty enourmous work there with those cat's... and I agree on getting rid of unnecessary user categories, too. Mediggo 07:36, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

I would probably be fine with guild categories, as per the guilds-on-wiki discussion, but stuff like "Users who are awesome" is just not helping anyone. The userbox should be enough self-stroking, ego-wise. :P - Infinite - talk 11:20, 25 October 2011 (UTC)

17th Oct

I feel like I haven't been paying attention much, so I've missed stuff like suggested P&P overhauls. Could you point me to where this has been happening? pling 16:03, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

I guess my phrasing was a little hazy. The P&P wasn't overhauled, nor planned to be overhauled, but the way users seem to interpret it has gone back to policies and set-in-stone practises. Or perhaps the lack of acknowledging the existence of P&P is the cause. The P&P itself isn't contested, though. - Infinite - talk 16:07, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

I think some problems have risen only because not all practices are clearly stated anywhere and because P&P doesn't have enough visibility. I have, on occassion, been pressing that both of those should be done, but people have misunderstood that for rule/policy-making. And then there's also those people who strictly disregard any general opinion or practice of the community. Mediggo 16:30, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Although it would help immensely to know what the community has generally accepted as practises, it would be misquoted as policy simply because it is written. I feel simply stressing that guidelines are guidelines instead of set-in-stone templates for formatting, things should already cool down. As for interpersonal conflict, it usually solves itself. - Infinite - talk 16:37, 17 October 2012 (UTC)

Hm, I'm not sure. Not writing particular things down in case people mistake them for rules almost implies that the things that are written down can be treated as rules. If people misquote things, they should be corrected/informed/helped; it's not necessarily a problem with P&P itself, but how people view P&P.

Also, P&P is there to "help immensely" by being a documentation of practice. If we're not documenting practice, it's not as helpful as it could be. pling 16:55, 17 October 2012 (UTC)