User talk:Poke

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[edit] Hello

Hey there, Poke :) -- br12 • (talk) • 19:35, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey brains :) poke | talk 19:36, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Hey Poke :D --- Raptors / RAAAAAAAAAA!

Oh, hi Raptors! I see you took your chance to get on this wiki? ^^ But please sign with four tildes :) poke | talk 19:39, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

How's GW2WT coming along? :P -- br12 • (talk) • 19:44, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

I think I'll modify my current code to handle both wikis.. poke | talk 19:45, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Hiya Poke --Cursed Angel 22:29, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Stop signing everywhere to give you a higher ranking o.O poke | talk 22:32, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

oh u figured out my plan --Cursed Angel 23:05, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Gotta admit though, the barrage of Hi's and Hello's is much more inviting than {{Welcome}}...-- br12 • (talk) • 23:10, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Maybe I should protect that template before it's being created or a policy says that I'm not allowed to protect it.. o.O poke | talk 23:12, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

*Whispers* No policies are stopping you yet. Calor — talk 23:20, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Yet... -- br12 • (talk) • 23:21, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Deletion/Creation

What's up with deleting all the template images (Delete, merge, move icons, etc.) then reuploading them? Calor — talk 23:24, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

It was only one and as long as I understand the GFDL, the author has to be named.. poke | talk 23:26, 21 December 2007 (UTC)

Ahh ok. Licensing. Calor (t) 19:01, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] System messages

When replacing default system messages, one suggested tip is to edit in the default text first, save page, and then make the change. That way the original text is in the history for easy reference/diffing. --Rezyk 00:30, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Ok, will do this next time :) But you still can see the original messages here. poke | talk 00:31, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

[edit] Bug with your wiki switcher

I was modifying your WikiSwitch code to create links on all 3 wikis to switch between all 3 of them easily, and in the process noticed that the version of your code that isn't based on gwwtools has a bug with pages that have a / in the name as they are converted to %2. -- (gem / talk) 23:14, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Oh yeah, I added an encoding to fix another bug and forgot about the normal /.. I will release a new code soon. poke | talk 23:24, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Glad to be helpful. :) -- (gem / talk) 23:32, 22 December 2007 (UTC)

Don't be lazy poke, the wiki is relying too much on you! (And after all, the holidays have passed now, so chop chop, back to work!) --  (CoRrRan / talk) 19:11, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Yeah, 2nd of january, back to work. Lord Belar 19:20, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

-.- poke | talk 20:38, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Poke for president, don't you forget that! (/me pokes poke on IRC causing a new warning bell to go off on poke's PC.) ;-) --  (CoRrRan / talk) 21:15, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

*ignore* :P poke | talk 22:19, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

Anja sends Cor some love. <3 - anja 00:01, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

<poke> Anja is abusing my talk page o.O
<Anja_> oh where? let me ban her

poke | talk 00:15, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Eloc

I know there are no policies yet on removing comments on userpages, but you're an admin and you reverted his previous removals. He's at it again on Ryudo's talk and his talk. Also, you may be interested at what he did on GWW at HELP:GAME. He's pissed off at something, because it's a junk build. Please post some sort of response on his talk page, or wherever you feel fit. Calor (t) 03:35, 2 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Speedy deletion

Good job, now do the rest. :P Lord Belar 21:47, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Just because you feel like they should be deleted isn't a big enough reason to speedy them without letting others discuss :P - anja 22:01, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

No, I meant the rest of the candidates for deletion. Lord Belar 22:07, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

Anja too. poke | talk 22:08, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

What, for deletion? :P Lord Belar 22:14, 3 January 2008 (UTC)

NOES! Not the Anja for deletion! --  (CoRrRan / talk) 17:38, 4 January 2008 (UTC)

I meant "Anja meant the rest of the candidates for deletion, too". poke | talk 20:40, 5 January 2008 (UTC)

[edit] GW2WT

Any plans for a Guild Wars 2 Wiki Tools?  :o) --Shadowphoenix 19:22, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Yes, but as GWWT is mainly a tagging tool and we don't have anything to tag (as we don't have policies as well, yet), it will take time. poke | talk 19:28, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

points at here and there; vote for mine :o) Ok I understand no policies no GW2WT :o( --Shadowphoenix 19:31, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Actually that are not policies, that are drafts - the wiki is full of drafts, but you cannot work with draft policies. For something like GWWT there is a stable policy needed. poke | talk 19:35, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

Oh yeah I know (btw the "there" link changed, had it linked wrong :P), i was just saying VOTE FOR MINE!!!! lol :D --Shadowphoenix 19:37, 28 March 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Image:User Mini Me Ta[...]rejects.jpg

I wasn't aware of any policy which makes a long image name "inappropiate". -- Mini Me File:User Mini Me sig.png 10:11, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

itz cuz thar arent eni --Cursed Angel 10:24, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

As CA said, there are no policies. poke | talk 16:07, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Okay. So why did you delete it again? -- Mini Me File:User Mini Me sig.png 18:20, 12 May 2008 (UTC)

Because it's annoying as bloody hell? Maybe if you could pronounce it or spell it off the top of your head... -- Armond Warblade 05:47, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

Also i think a fair amount of common sense would be useful when naming things...PheNaxKian(T/c) 14:39, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

What's so hard to pronounce about Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis Honorificabilitudinitatibus? Eh? And my common sense is fine tyvm. -- Mini Me File:User Mini Me sig.png 16:15, 13 May 2008 (UTC)

The "Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis Honorificabilitudinitatibus" part. And no, it isn't. Lord Belar 21:53, 14 May 2008 (UTC)

Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis Honorificabilitudinitatibus is really easy to pronounce if you try it a few times. Just say it, say Taumatawhakatangihangakoauauotamateapokaiwhenuakitanatahu Pneumonoultramicroscopicsilicovolcanoconiosis Honorificabilitudinitatibus. You can do it.

Oh, and my common sense is fine, it's just that I don't care enough for wiki's (and the people on this wiki) that I'll name it whatever I like ;) -- Mini Me File:User Mini Me sig.png 18:07, 15 May 2008 (UTC)

[edit] Inaccessible pages

Thanks for cleaning up the inaccessible file on the orphaned page list. I'm not sure, but there may be a few other such messes. Could you check and take whatever action is needed to fix them? --Max 2 19:30, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

They should be all gone by now. The only reason for them becoming inaccessible is because they start with a interwiki link and were created before the interwiki links were activated. But this only applies to "gw1" interwiki links, as that is the only non-standard interwiki link we have here. And Special:Allpages says there are no more pages beginning with "gw1", so it should be fine now :) poke | talk 21:04, 26 July 2009 (UTC)

Thank you for checking. --Max 2 19:41, 27 July 2009 (UTC)

Could you check out Special:WhatLinksHere/gw1:Eye of the North? Special:WantedPages has a few odd ones like that (which is what I think Mtew is referring to); I don't think it's the same as the gw1:Utopia page, since that was an existent page and these ones are not (which is why you wouldn't find them on AllPages). -- Pling \ talk 01:24, 13 August 2009 (UTC)

No, that's just a WLH to a interwiki link, which works fine (see this example). The wanted pages-one however is weird.. I'll look into that. poke | talk 19:38, 17 August 2009 (UTC)

[edit] ArenaNet:GuildWars2.com news

and what about News? — Balistic 21:46, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I'm just going to read the GW2.com news in the same way as on gw1:ArenaNet:GuildWars.com news. The way News is currently made doesn't offer a good way to include the GW2.com news in the same way as we do over at GWW. poke | talk 21:51, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, and I think News is news about GW2 from the GW.com website. So... where should we put the GW1.com News about GW2? — Balistic 22:00, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

GW.com news are on the GWW wiki. So I don't really care about that; as I said, all I'm doing is starting a big archive for all GW2.com news that will appear there. poke | talk 22:05, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

I know (: — Balistic 22:19, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Learn to sign please xD - Btw. why are you leaving out the timestamp always? poke | talk 22:21, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Do we really need an ArenaNet namespace here? In the GW1 wiki it was used mostly for suggestions, and there it's likely going to be removed soon anyway. I don't see a need for that namespace here. Erasculio 22:24, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Well, we have it, and it is not as if it wastes space or anything. It is good for having the two wikis in sync imo. poke | talk 22:26, 30 August 2009 (UTC)

Yeah, the namespace has already been set-up and whats the worst that could happen — Balistic

Regarding your most recent edit to that page, why'd you remove the October 30, 2009 entry?-- Shew 19:13, 31 October 2009 (UTC)

Oh, I actually didn't notice :P Because the news was already added before, but the "th" was missing, my script got an error (which is fixed now) and didn't update the file the parsed news is written to. So I copied an old version of that script :P poke | talk 01:09, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

Ah, lol, ok.-- Shew 01:26, 1 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] What is wrong with Placeholders

Poke, the idea behind the placeholders has a purpose, it is to reduce the number of "broken" links on the page, and is allowed for use to show that the links do work. This is prep work for when the wiki gets populated with content, so more work doesn't need to be done later. And as far as improper capitalization on the "No Personal Attacks" page, that is presuming that the same improper standard used on GWW is going to be accepted here. Article titles, as are book titles are (in the English language) capitalized. Each page here is very similar to an article from a magazine, and as such, it is proper to capitalize it that way. This is a new wiki, and blatantly enforcing questionable (meaning goes against actual English usage) standards from GWW is not proper, as none have been established here yet. 42 - talk 19:11, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

Placeholders, than contain basically nothing, just to get rid of red links are bad. They may clean up the WantedPages list, but they make links blue without having content on the target. It is better to see a red link, knowing there is nothing to read, than a blue link and looking at a page with no value.

And the "No Personal Attacks" page was in the wrong namespace and is redundant to Guild Wars 2 Wiki:No personal attacks; also given how the current articles were created the current standard still remains as the normal capitalization as used on GWW, wikipedia and many other places.

Also most of your "placeholders" just have no value for this wiki, as this game is about Guild Wars 2, not Guild Wars 1. Unless you have good sources that the content you are adding is really part of the game, they are completely redundant (plus the part being placeholders with no content as explained above).

And btw. those wiki standards come from people who are using the wiki, not from written policies. Policies are just formalizations of those practices. And as most of the people here come from either GWW or GuildWiki (which are both similar, and which both especially use the current capitalization scheme), those practices were taken over to this wiki, and that is how it is done for now. poke | talk 19:20, 13 November 2009 (UTC)

I have no problem with a standard being accepted here, but that should be decided for itself here, not just automatically applying other places' standards especially when some of them go against actual common sense. Just because it is an accepted policy elsewhere doesn't mean that someone cannot try to make use of proper English standards (which most of the English speaking world uses) here from the beginning. The NPA page that I made was just one example of how it is done properly in English (which this wiki, along with the GWW, claims to be). It being spelled with lower case is not proper English standard, being that it is a title.

A placeholder does have a value, even if you do not think that there is a use for it or not. That is a huge part of the problem that already exists on GWW. People get the mindset that how they think things are is the only possible way they should be, and anyone who thinks different is automatically wrong. It is nice to see people are trying to bring that bad habit to the new place despite this NOT being GWW. 42 - talk 03:14, 14 November 2009 (UTC)

Since the game hasn't come out yet, what is wrong with giving, and I know this might be a tough concept to handle, examples of something, instead of insisting that it only be from the game or not at all. It has been proven (probably since the beginning of recorded history) time and time again that when a job is rushed, errors are much more likely. Or here is an even wilder idea, since your issue is this content references GWW, remove the references, and have a generic example that would work, instead of just automatically trashing someone else's efforts.

The time to work on things like this is now, when the content from the game isn't pouring in. Then, once it slows down to a trickle, the examples can be adjusted to reflect actual in-game content. If you keep having the attitude that is shown so much on GWW, all that will happen is this wiki will be as held back as much as GWW is. People try to make improvements, only to have most of them shot down because a select group of people don't think it would be helpful for them.

Just because that attitude has been used, sorry, misused over and over on GWW is no reason to carry it over to here, when people are already trying to make helpful improvements. 42 - talk 05:42, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

That "select group of people" you are talking about is actually that part of the community who cares about the wiki and participates in discussion. Everybody, really everybody, is welcomed and invited to take part in discussions; and if they don't participate, then they should not be upset that their opinion might get ignored.

And my opinion still stands, and it was proven multiple times, that a lot other people think like that; contentless pages, or placeholders, have no value at all and if anything they only make browsing through a wiki confusing when you might expect details where no details are.

"when a job is rushed, errors are much more likely" – this is a wiki; and part of a wiki is that when errors were made they are corrected by others. Nobody will expect us to immediately have everything from the game when it comes out, when there is something missing, it will get added sooner or later. We don't need to rush then either, and even when, there is nothing wrong. And creating placeholders with no content that just clutter up the wiki don't help at all as a preparation for the final things. poke | talk 09:00, 19 November 2009 (UTC)

That is your view of it, and I do not have a problem with that. I happen to disagree. I think the more that we can get set up now, the less will have to be done later, even if it isn't rushed. There are some things that do not need to have game specific information, and can still be valid examples. It would make no sense to draw up an example of a town description page, and say all future pages have to follow that, that is true. But there is nothing wrong with general examples being made now, especially since the examples being presented are about how the wiki works, not about the game content. Not all of the examples are that case, but you get the idea. 42 - talk 04:35, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] daily

dose of dramallamadramallamadramallamadramallama.

ps ur fat. -Auron 21:12, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

nah, I'm not. poke | talk 21:14, 16 November 2009 (UTC)

pictures or it didn't happen. NuVII 20:04, 20 November 2009 (UTC)

[edit] Trailers

As was being discussed on the talk page you ignored, I don't agree with moving the trailers articles to a new name based on what they would officially be called. Not only this makes categorization less logical (by time is more important than by name, given how each trailer is an evolution over the previous one), but also using "The Races of Tyria" as the trailer's article is making the search feature rather useless; someone searching for "trailer" won't find it, and someone looking for real information about the races of Tyria could stumble upon it, instead of here. A redirect from the current titles to the old ones, using "The Races of Tyria trailer" for the second trailer, would have been better. Erasculio 21:29, 8 December 2009 (UTC)