Guild Chat - Episode 31

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The 31st episode of Guild Chat aired on February 12, 2016.
"Host Rubi Bayer is first joined by Game Designer Nellie Hughes to talk about some of the activities you can do in thirty minutes or less in Guild Wars 2: Heart of Thorns™. Then Sound Designers Drew Cady and Jerry Schroeder go deep into the making of the sounds of the next Raid Boss!"
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[Music]
hi everybody welcome back to guild chat
i'm your host ruby if you're joining us
for the first time welcome we're glad
you're here
those of you tuning in again welcome
back um so we're going to
talk this week about gameplay and heart
of thorns
i've got one of the game designers from
heart of thorns from one of the heart of
thorns maps here with me today
i want to start though with the clip
that
kind of spurred this discussion and got
us thinking about it a couple weeks ago
colin was here on guild chat talking
about
heart of thorns gameplay what our goals
were and what we're wanting to do in the
future so let's start and take a look at
that really quick
i think there's some things in in hot in
general that we didn't quite hit our
goals on uh i think one of our our big
goals is
uh you should be able to play in short
periods of time and make meaningful
progress
you know i think that's a big tenant of
guild wars 2 you should be able to log
in and in 20 minutes and 40 minutes you
should be able to
achieve a bunch of goals feel like you
made meaningful progress and get
rewarded for it
i think there are parts of some of the
stuff we did with heart of thorns that
allows you to do that there are other
areas where i think that's not true
and i think that's a big area that we're
going to take a look at is trying to
make uh
keep the things that we really like
about the expansion and the things in
particular in the open world
that that were really successful um the
really awesome moments uh
while also trying to make it more
accessible i think there's some things
that ended up
more grindy than i would say that it is
within the
kind of what we want to do with the game
yeah and so in retrospect now that we've
had time to really look at some metrics
and how much time it takes to earn some
of the things and to get your masteries
we're going to take an opportunity to go
back and look at a lot of that stuff as
well
awesome thank you recorded colin so uh
nelly hughes
is one of the game designers who worked
on the heart of you worked on oreck
basically i did
i did so nelly came to hang out with me
today and talk about what those things
are that colin mentioned because there
are there is stuff that you can do
if you've got like 30 minutes of game
play adventures right no
well if you want to go there first
[Laughter]
actually it yeah i i saw somebody was
like so they're just going to be like
do adventures bye but no go ahead and
talk about that
first because adventures is not on my
list if you come across an adventure
and it's unlocked and it's available at
the time great go do it because i think
they're awesome i mean there's
oh yeah they're super fun they're super
fun oh i just lost
you yeah that's okay okay so
but there are some changes that we want
to make to adventure we are we're gonna
make some changes um
down the road we're going to make them
occur a little bit more often
i'm not going to go into details but i
know each one of them are being looked
at individually and kind of like
massage to be nicer i do know some of
the requirements are going to change for
some of that gameplay um
and you know it's just we want more
accessibility to them because they are
one of the core things that like you can
go into hot and do really quickly
and you know just kind of keep on moving
but yeah yeah and they are fun i mean
i'm not going to lie i
have gone into like vernon brink before
and
there's an adventure that of course now
i've forgotten the name of the flaming
one
no i like tendril torches okay i like
the first favorite
but no the one and oh gosh you guys
what's it called the pit where you like
jump in the pit you have to pick up all
the things
yeah i really like that that one was fun
and i am not gonna lie i've gone into
verdict bring
more than once all excited to do that
and been like ah no guess what i can't
do it
yeah and you know that was that was some
of the feedback that they're going to
address because that really was
you know i'm very excited me too because
that's yeah
so that's we'll get that out of the way
now we're not going to be like hey do
adventures
bye see you next week wait i'm out of
here right no have a seat we have more
things to talk about
um but the things that when you get into
heart of therm's game play
i mean you know we have lives we don't
always have time to sit down for a
two-hour game play session
although it feels really good when you
do yeah i know i know i'm definitely one
of those people myself so i
am looking forward to this right the the
changes coming down the road so i can
play at home
yeah but we don't want you guys to just
sit there until the changes
are made until they come up and like
have nothing to do
we want you to log in and play and i
mean nelly and i we both play the game
and we i know we each have our own goals
we're supposed to play the game
wait do not be playing the game just
kidding i'm just totally kidding
i no but we
we as players want to get in there and
we want
something for our time i mean i want to
have a good time i want to have fun
playing
but i also want stuff in my inventory at
the end
yeah and i want some gold and i want
some xp and i want mastery progression
yep and you can it's easy to get into
the game and i know i've run into this
so many times
it's easy to get into the game and it's
like there are so many things to do
but they're so all over the map and
sometimes it's hard to see
it's a little overwhelming it's just
this impenetrable wall of
i don't know there's nothing there's
nothing to do forget it i'm good this is
frustrating i'm annoyed
i have atv so i'll be going to do one
thing and then just instantly be like
so let's kind of talk about general
things first we're going to go into
generalities and
a lot of how you do game play and some
specifics about
here are specific things you can do so
let's start with the generalities
i mean i mean map complete go and go in
and you know work in getting all the
pois opened up or definitely
one of the big things unlock waypoints
unlock waypoints first so you can get to
stuff
yep it's kind of a given but yeah
absolutely um
you know another one of the things are
the vistas they're they're single player
easy to get to
most of the time only if you're good at
jumping
which i may not necessarily be okay i
may not be very good at jumping but i am
hard-headed
yes so you just need to keep trying
eventually we've got the vistas we've
also got the hero points which are you
know
sometimes are group based but um well
we're going to address that
yeah absolutely um what else did we talk
about
well i want to pause and because we were
talking about finding the shinies
yes and this is one of the gameplay
mindsets that i wanted to talk about
because i know
the reason i'm aware of this is because
i've fallen into this trap so many times
i'm like all right
i have half an hour i want this
particular hero point
so then i'm heading that way or i have a
half an hour i just want to go get some
loot or xp i want to advance my mastery
and i will be going toward the thing
that i have decided is what i'm going to
do to advance this
everything between me and my goal is an
obstacle
in my mind and so there's like you know
there's like a little side event
or there are chests to open there's like
airship cargo
or there are there are gathering nodes
all of that i'm like batting it aside
and i'm irritated because these are
between me
and the xp that i'm trying to get but
they do give you
participation in a little way you know
like if you do that stuff you're still
getting participation so you'll get the
passive rewards you know
yeah the little chess that we all love
me too well and that's the thing it took
me so long to
realize that i was treating all of this
stuff i was like all of these things are
getting in my way
when i want to i'm trying to go get xp
and if i would just
breathe slow down okay you know there's
you know eight hundred thousand pocket
raptors which
sorry we'll talk about that later
there's there's all of this stuff in
between me and what i'm perceiving as my
goal and if i would just slow down and
play the game and kill things and gather
on my way to my goal i would still get
there and then find myself with a lot of
extra stuff at the end
so i think that mindset i mean it's
super easy to say oh slow down
yeah it is but you know just make sure
that you kind of are
participating in events as you're
running through stuff you know
just make sure you're kind of doing
stuff and it doesn't you would think it
would hinder you you know but it really
doesn't
actually i think we have a tendency to
feel like it does i mean
all of this stuff is in my way but it's
actually just bonus goodies on your way
to the goal so
yeah just kind of think of it like that
and i find it helps
it took me a really long time to get
there though i ran past a lot of mobs in
stealth mode on my thief
trying to just i don't want to deal with
this i just want to get over there it's
all i'm asking
i would just sneak by all the pocket
raptors all the other stuff's fun to
fight
well pocket raptors give xp too they do
they give a lot text
all right so you know once you're there
you've got your map unlocked
and if you come across like a hero point
or
a just a small side event
always always always call it out in map
chat now and i talked about this
um last week one of the things i wanted
was that
god awful difficult balthazar hero point
you can't solo that no you cannot follow
that
you can't duo that
guildmate and i were running around and
he was just like okay nobody's doing it
i guess
you know we can't do it i have an idea
what if we tell people we're doing it's
a crazy thought
but stay with me um just call it out in
hero chat
nelly pointed out you know ping the
waypoint ping the clearest waypoint
yep absolutely okay you know the secret
what's the secret is it shift click
control click control click all right
that was that was new to me i was like
that's awesome
i was on an internal client earlier
using all of these other commands and
now i'm sitting here going wait a minute
i know i try to do that on live too yeah
the nearest waypoint or point of
interest because
again being really straightforward about
how it is as a player
if i'm running around in oreck basin
and somebody calls out and says hey
anybody want to do x hero point and
they're just saying
hey can you come help with this thing
and i have no waypoint
i have no po i have no yeah you have no
idea right especially if you haven't
really been to
the effort to look for it absolutely
yeah make everybody's life easier by
doing that yeah
um do that so we did that with the
balthazar hero point the other night
and we're thinking you know there's just
two of us we can pull a couple people
into our group and run in there and get
it if we can get two or three extra
people
um while i was waiting i was like
killing nearby mobs and getting so
so you're getting participation i'm
actually trying to make use of my time
getting that permission
participation but we ended up with a
squad of 20 people
because the thing about this is and did
you guys still lie
okay i don't want to talk about it no
we totally we totally killed the guy but
i started seeing he's doing his like
wind up to make the whole floor of fire
and i am like running for um i'm running
for a jet mushroom
i can't get there in time and then i
look around i realize there's
one ranged dude standing up on the cliff
everyone else is dead oh yeah
that's awesome though he's got like a
sliver left so he like picked it away
he's and he's in map chat like you guys
are great
you guys are awesome and i'm like i was
trying to learn to play noob
seriously it was not even a little bit
embarrassing i was very
happy to get the ball to our skill
points oh gosh it was such a relief
but the thing is i feel that way about
some of these hero points they're hard
oh they're definitely hard
you feel that way you guys feel that way
which means that if you call it out in
map chat and say hey i'm doing this
thing
does anybody want to come yeah you're
going to find people who also feel that
way
so even if you know even if you just you
feel like soloing
that's okay you can just get together
with these people and then just leave
the squad and move on with your life
yep it makes an enormous difference i
found so many people were like
dear god i've needed that skill point
yeah i know i'm like i have a couple of
those that like yeah
probably after this i will be going on
live and doing yes
make everybody's lives easier by pinging
a thing
and again these are just kind of the
general things um
that will help you walk away feeling
like you did you've done something
and didn't just spend your half an hour
running around trying to get to an event
um see what
there's like all of this stuff here uh
check map view if you just want to run
around and playing you're not sure if
you want to participate in the meta
like nelly said even just killing random
mobs running around oh yeah
yeah yeah you know if you're like
running by an event you know just kind
of
kill some dudes keep running you know or
stay for that event because you know our
events aren't usually very long
so you know um but yeah just kill stuff
on your way
and then i don't want to use the word
tag that's a terrible word don't do that
okay okay that is kind of rude yes
but you know if you do just want to run
around and play get some event
participation
check map view i need i need my water
check map you
for a commander tag or an apple i
started to call it a mentor tag and
nelly was like don't do that
just call it an apple just call it the
apple tag yeah yeah i like applejack
but they're they're i will say the the
jungle maps like
they're very good about doing the skill
challenge the you know the skill point
runs
the mastery point runs like they're very
organized and um
usually i've seen like on reddit you
know they'll they'll kind of pick a time
and go
and go do that but also you know if
you're just in the map i constantly
see somebody with a tag kind of doing
that so yeah
watch map chat look at map view figure
out where the commander tag is and since
you unlocked all the way points like we
said
you should be able to get there get over
there yeah i think the i think the
chest rewards as the meta progresses are
one of the best things because i still
if you're in there playing for 30
minutes odds are you're going to get one
of those
bonus loot on top of all the other
goodies that you've already gotten and
that's that's all i want is to feel like
i came away with
something yep and didn't just beat my
head on a wall i want stuff
i just wanted to open stuff i want to
see what i got yep yeah
um if you're not seeing anybody saying
hey there's a hero point train
and map just ask i'm gonna just yell out
and i get
that the questions are asked i mean you
know people are in map chat going events
events events if you just got there it's
okay
just you know is anybody running
anything um
let's talk about a few specific things
each map has a scavenger hunt
yeah each heart of thorns map has a
scavenger hunt not every map ever
yep yep the new maps have like you know
neat scavenger hunts where you can look
for it uh
i will talk about eric basin because
that's the one i know
we've got a couple we actually have two
we've got the the fallen masks that are
all around
the zone um they are
difficult but fulfilling when you
finally get them i spent 20 minutes on
one
the other reward is good oh yeah it's
awesome well you get herta which is a
bloodstone gobbler
and it's an exalted head so you get to
keep an exalted head in your
oh don't look at it like that it's
awesome i'm sorry
but it takes your bloodstone and gives
you stuff so that makes me feel better
about it
oh wait no i'm sorry you get the
aurelium node
i just switched them you get the helium
node for your home instance
when you do the fallen mask yeah i was
sitting here like well she
maybe i just nope nope i just totally
confuse them and for the scavenger hunt
inside tourer
um which is base a lore scavenger hunt
which is awesome
um you can find out about the exalted
and you know the history of trier and
things going on we got a screenshot of
one of those so you kind of know what
you're looking for
yeah hey so look for those you know
inside of the city
and the reward for that is the
bloodstone gobbler
the thing i like about this is that it's
a nice clear
thing to look for i'm not looking for
some random teensy thing hidden under a
bush you're not running around pressing
control or
yeah and if you well you don't have to
press control no actually i found that
the other day and it was lovely
yes um but there's also a little lore
story behind there so if that's
if that's your thing if it's not your
thing you can ignore it but if it is
your thing it's pretty cool
yeah kick out of reading him our
designer alex put them in some pretty
interesting places too
so thank you ali thank you alex i'm not
quite done with that one yet
but i'm i'm enjoying looking for it so
there's there's a scavenger hunt like
this on every map
where you can just go around and hey
find these random things
kill mobs gathering away all that good
stuff and you come away with some
progression on
achievement points and some progression
toward a good reward at the end yep
yep i like it um let's see we have the
scavenger hunt we have exalted masks
speaking of achievements there are
really nice achievement tracks in
each map there are there's a ton of
achievements
this one's you know like i know at least
for oreck basin it's like 25
achievement points which is actually
really nice so it's progression toward
a big reward chest i love those reward
chests
and yeah you know we have other stuff
there you know our achievements
basically
i kind of designed them and our team
designed them as a way to kind of get
you around the map to see the cool stuff
too
so um there's uh the golden chicken do
we want to talk about the golden chicken
definitely talk about the gold
okay i like the story behind the the
back story is
cute so we uh we had an intern um
that was asked to make chickens i think
for probably dry top
okay um and so she ended up she had
lived on a farm so she made
13 different like actual chickens um
different types of chickens and so she
made a gold one and it had never been
used and we couldn't think of like any
better of a spot than to
to make the gold chicken live in
torreira in the gold map the gold map
yes so he's hidden he's pretty hidden
and lives little you know with his
golden hay
and have you seen his little like this
little yeah i found him and i had to
like
i have to go back because by the time i
finally found him i was so mad
yes i was yeah i was like
difficult to find but it's totally worth
it it is it's totally worth
it don't don't be like me stay and look
around because
yeah it's always pretty cool i need to i
may have
i may have cheated and gone and seen her
on dev a little bit
all right but i i'll do it for real
again it's okay it's okay no one's
judging i got my ap i was happy
and i was like that is all i want um
but no you guys so you guys made the
scavenger hunts
you made the ap made the achievements
and it it does send you off the beaten
path it sure does quite a lot
there's you know i wanted to make sure
that people got to experience
my buddy witzel yeah okay
so yeah there's he's just a whittling
it's a wand to get away
in my mind i made this little story up
about how he was all irritated with the
other itzel and fleet and so he
came down to gold and didn't want to
talk to anybody so he's he's pretty
hidden away
he's uh you know in the southern part of
the map above
a race adventure um and yeah he's just
like
he's got some funny lines some goofy
stuff going on you don't have to have
the adventure done to get to him
no absolutely not you can run through
the adventure and it's
his little alcove is hard to find but
it's at the end the adventure to the
right so i'll give everybody a hint if
they can get if they can get through the
falls
go to the right and you'll see the
stairs up top noted i have to
i have to do this stuff on live i mean
when i'm like doing preparation for
guild chat shows and stuff and we're
doing testing
i can get to things really easily just
because gd dev commands yep
but man then i go do them on live and
i'm like there's a lot going on here
you don't just boom there yeah yeah yeah
yeah that's
one of those constant reminders i have
to give myself so we have
and we've got i mean we have a couple of
other little it's if you like
just those goofy little fun things that
are off the beaten path
and you like getting ap for them also
i mean we've got um oh gosh the the it's
all that you can play music with
oh there's the strumming uh the loot
yeah
so if you go to the falls you know
there's a guy not a guy there is an
itzel hanging out with a loot and uh
when you talk to him he will give you a
loot and you both
he will play he'll play like oh my gosh
what is the what is the term for that
he's playing the it's not the beat he's
playing the the chord
yeah he plays the chord yeah you pick
chord progression yeah so if you're
musically inclined which i am not which
i'm not either
yeah i just like hit buttons at random
how did you how did you
who designed the music our sound guy
okay keegan put it then
okay i was like wait a minute you told
me you weren't musically inclined
you did not no no no no he he asked and
asked for it would be a good spot and so
i figured the best spot for that guy
would be
like right in front of the falls just
with a good view yeah
uh can we talk about the strong boxes oh
those are my favorites
yeah those are those are actually um all
over the place so
if you get your mastery up and you you
know you've
completed that track they are all over
the map they're they're in some pretty
neat spots too and there's achievements
for that too yes
every single one you find and get
achievement points and mastery points
that's right they're both so if you
haven't become familiar with these yet
they are strong boxes that
they fell out of ships right yeah in the
crashes and they're just strong boxes
off of the various pack ships
and they're hidden here and there and
you just run up open a chest
and you get loot it's awesome it's like
push button receive loot i like that
yeah
it's it's my favorite and mastery points
and achievement points
oh yeah well that's the other thing you
can do we did we talk about running
around and grabbing mastery points
uh we did a little bit okay you can talk
about it well we were just like hey
here's the thing you could do that was
yeah i mean
you know arcbase and we've got them in
uh some interesting spots i think the
other maps obviously do too
um that you know i i
i'm so happy to get them but i'm sad
when i realized i actually have to build
doors
but they feel so good again it is it's
it's gratifying and that's but that's
kind of what we're after
absolutely yes your participation you're
working towards you know the coolness
and i mean i do i like the strong boxes
i like just run up to a thing
push a button and i get loot but i also
like
that's for when i'm feeling lazy yeah
that's when i'm just like i just want
stuff
i just want to log in and get stuff like
there's like some script going on there
[Laughter]
but i also like the challenge of finding
something
that was hard to get to or it was hard
to find yeah and getting rewarded for
that at the end i mean that's
that's fun game play on the nights when
i don't just want to go open a strong
box
um i want to talk about one other thing
and that's the achievement tracks on the
stories
because i think that well and i'll tell
you what let me backtrack a second
because the thing that i love about a
lot of the achievements
just the map achievements are that they
let me go back
and play the content again which is nice
and all but
here's an achievement if you do it a
slightly different way and
the fight interior the battle for
terrier is one of my favorites oh yeah
we've got we've got a bunch of stuff
going on there like if you
you know if you do something specific on
each side of the
each one of the quadrants you know we
definitely have achievements for each of
that
yeah and the choices that you make
during that fight
yeah and i'm so it's the same battle
it's the same fight
but it is completely different if you
are
on south or north or east and
i will convince you i will i will
confess that i
have a difficult time with that i don't
know why i'm terrible with it
i don't know why this is so difficult i
like turning into the mushroom myself
the first time i did that was amazing i
was super fun
are my favorite so i'm a little biased
but is it really oh absolutely i like i
think it's
my baby she's my favorite
they are they are kind of awesome i
think it's south is it south where you
fly up and you drop
east and sit by the vine too yes yes
east is right
yep that that is the fun one yeah that
is the fun i have a good time with that
one
all right so but i do like and this will
take me to the story thing i like
that the achievements encourage you to
go back and do the content but
not the exact same thing i'm not like
just on autopilot i have to do something
different
and experience it in a new way yep well
i mean story instances you
like the first time you have to go
through and then when you go back is
when you get all those
great like opportunities to play funny
yeah
and it's and get rewarded for it it's
the reason that the achievements the
following achievements are
one of the best things to help you find
something to do in a short amount of
time
i remember going through and we have a
few things here and there that depend on
your race
i remember going through one of the
story steps as a human
and there was this silvari who was
having a hard time and he ended up as a
more german you had to kill him
but then i went through a safari and i
was able to talk him down oh that's
really cool
wow i'm not an alcoholic so i i am not
guilty yeah i'm
shut up don't judge me i'm not judging
i'm not judging
i would love to have that breath of
grade it is it's super fun but now i'm
like i have two mains
and then like eight alts oh goodness and
then just yeah trying to keep all that
on the low end of the scale
um but yeah so the achievement points
we got distracted because we like
playing the game it's crazy
the achievement points and the
achievement system is a
really good way to just look and say all
right i have a half an hour
what do i want to focus on okay i can do
the story step again and now i can
choose
path b instead of path a on the story
step i'm going to fight this boss
slightly different i'm going to do a
different mechanic i'm going to avoid
something specific stuff like that it's
cool
yeah and i get loot and i get xp and i
get some gold
and i get a bonus reward for finishing
the story step
bonus pieces all right so
hopefully that is helpful oh you know
what we have one more thing event timers
i was like there's this giant monitor in
front of me
one thing that will be really helpful
and i will admit nelly and i did not
know about this
until she showed me this yesterday and i
like was
like super excited so if you're going to
log in
and you're thinking all right what
what's going to be most efficient to me
there's an event timer and i've always
looked at the world boss timers on the
wiki yeah
on the guild wars 2 wiki there's this
event timer that tells you exactly
what's going on now
that thing is awesome yeah so if you go
you can actually do that from in game
and do slash wiki
world or event timers i'm conditioned to
say world boss i know right
slash wiki event timers we'll take you
to this thing and it tells you exactly
what's going on in these maps
and that's going to save you a couple of
minutes trying to map hop and figure out
where everything is
you can min max your playtime buy that
wiki page alone
i do have a little midmaxer in me okay a
lot but still
sometimes i like to just learn how to
murder things me too
all right so i have a little surprise
for you guys
nelly was only nelly was the first half
of the show she was only half the show
and i have a little surprise so stick
around we're gonna let nelly get back to
work
and i'll be right back with you guys bye
that's the bills and missiles music yay
all right drew and jerry came back to
hang out and do another bells and
whistles and they have made my entire
week
what we have is a little preview we have
a little teaser for you guys of
an upcoming raid boss and how we made
the sounds for it
so i am going to i just need to really
get out of your way
and let you guys talk about various
things that you did do you want to start
with the door story
the door story well yes this this
creature kind of
is a little different approach and you
know it's kind of somber and it's a
little different so
i was in pittsburgh uh
visiting some in-laws uh denny and bobby
albert
and hi mom and uh yeah
so they have this door at the end of the
hallway
and when you open it and close it it's
the one with all the towels so you know
you get up in the morning and you're
like
i'll get a fresh towel
[Music]
uh whoops and sorry i didn't have my
recorder that time but i came back
the following year thanksgiving thing
you know
and uh i go and start recording it this
is late at night like okay everyone's
being quiet and it's ten o'clock and
it's perfect time to do this right
and and they're used to it of course
they don't even hear it anymore yeah
and so i start playing this thing and
playing like
five minutes later they come out like
what
are you gonna do how many titles you
need seriously
okay and then they as i kind of played
it
and got more variations like the short
and the long and and a little more
the little chattery things they kind of
went okay i get it now
where they just heard was the door and i
just heard it as a creature of course
you didn't know what every time right
yeah it's our gift our sickness
exactly yeah it's maybe both so that was
a lot of fun what you just wanted it for
something
i didn't know yeah it's just kind of a
it's gonna be a cool creature someday
and um and it really mixed into this one
well
and i couldn't bring the door with me
that is why it's not here
and this is why i'm talking about but
the next few things
we can show you yeah um some of these
i'm less happy about than others but
that's okay
let's get the milk carton out of the way
okay and these are all these are all
sounds that you guys have used for this
upcoming raid boss
correct all right so i brought
a monster nostril music kit
uh a non-stop mucus kit muscles music
yes anyways you guys so this is a carton
and it can easily become a sound effect
so what you do is you take your sides
and you push it in
it's like a diy segment it's a total
do-it-yourself fully
and you flip up the bottom okay so
increase the sides
flip up the bottom and then we take some
water
and you pour it in
all right now
i'm really sorry you guys
and then we have a bigger one this is
the
monster nostril monster i can't i can't
portmanteau that
okay so crease the sides flip the bottom
same thing
you can use water you can use yogurt you
can use jello
i think i used yogurt for this said
creature strawberry
yes is that part important it is the
strawberry part
definitely can't use like signature
sound yeah okay
so as they you know breathe in you can
get a little
and then you know get a little more of
aggression with
when they're doing an attack you can
kind of be a little more
so this is yeah this is a head cold
there you go a head cold boss
yeah and you have a small nostril and a
big nostrils of course yeah so i went to
the gorsevolt place and i'm like
speculating that this is maybe a
creature made entirely out of nostrils
because before we had the hands and arms
there's a lot of tongues in that one too
oh that's right
there's like what nine i forgot counting
after nine
do you want to do you want to tell the
story of sneaking up behind me and
oh yeah so these guys keep doing stuff
to me you guys
you know it's fun you can say that sound
effects they're unusual
come on and so i had this idea i went
through and
tried to figure out what sounds i did
use and what sounds we could show
and i thought it'd be fun to come up
with ruby and tell her about it well
before i told her about it i came up
behind her
and of course you know come right behind
her i'm just trying to do my work you
guys
and yeah so you know two feet in back of
her head and
[Music]
what are you doing i'm like sitting here
i'm just like working at my desk
and i kind of hear something and i'm
like that's a weird noise but like the
hallway's behind my desk so there's
always something going on back there
so you didn't immediately turn around i
didn't immediately turn around
i thought that was unusual that you
wouldn't just go all right
what who is behind me i have kids
disgusting noises aren't really anything
new i was just like oh so those are
smaller nostrils by the way
much smaller nostrils yeah and
eventually it's getting like closer and
louder and it's continuing and
eventually it's like right behind me and
i'm like oh my gosh
what is it stop what's behind then i
come up on the side of her and i go
so i got this idea which is something
you like
love and hate simultaneously to hear
from the sound guys
and i liked it so thank you for
who's drinking all this milk by the way
i
well you know where did you get that
these come from the kitchen yeah
one eyebrow i brought the big one and
then i got the other half and a half
from
from the lunchroom should pour it down
the sink no i didn't i waited until it
was all all right thank you
he had like two of two identical ones
yesterday and now he keeps coming up
with new milk cartons
yeah all right so we have the nostril
boss
yes so what are the uh i have a
didgeridoo
to do some of the trills if you want to
let's go down
i think we're saving the best part for
last oh
all right here we go that'll be close
so enemy sounds yeah so
a didgeridoo can do the bass and that
kind of
very real weird sound uh but
it can do lots of other things and and
we've kind of talked about this before
which is
you you get a drum say and you get a
world
sound out of it because it's it's a
rounder shape than
than the sound of itself like i just did
a trill like
interesting not that interesting but if
you do it through a didgeridoo
let me uh remove the mic
[Music]
it's like a snort almost yeah so he's
you know lunging and attacking you and
it's got a little
it sounds like it's coming from his
lungs or whatever a little more detail
yeah and so blending with this other
because you know a door really doesn't
have i can't really do that can't really
breathe
so if you put the two together no you
have a breathing door i mean you have a
breathing creature
door boss confirmed that's right exactly
all right um
i'm just i'm just like guessing all the
bosses
we have like a nostril boss now there's
like a door boss there's a snake on the
side of this so i'm going to speculate
with that too
um i got nothing got nothing all right
yeah
yeah i mean you can do other uh
breathing
you know and kind of get some wetness in
there too
and that makes it kind of interesting
this is the grossest
stuff and it's so much fun yeah yeah
so we did door we have milk cartons full
of possibly strawberry yogurt but just
water in this case because i wouldn't
let you bring yogurt in here on the
white carpet
yeah it might have been messy for sure
sorry
and we have the didgeridoo so you're
layering all of these together
and coming up with just
does it work together are they like one
after the other kind of build
build upon them you know with a lot of
sound effects you're kind of uh
you don't just pile everything and hit
go at the same time you do kind of you
know stagger things out and you sort of
make an expression out of it you know
emotion
and exactly and sometimes one
one so there's there's definitely the
attacks
sound a little different than the ouches
than the deaths then the fidgets
and so sometimes uh we used the door
more for you know some of the fidgets
and things like that
um and then we used other things
for attacks and ouches so you kind of
find similar sounding textures
uh and that kind of creates more of a
palette it makes it a little more
interesting and some do
other things better than others
yeah and you're always thinking about
you know is it a frequency that'll cut
through you know if you've got a big
event going on where tons of people are
firing off skills or whatever you want
it so it will cut through you don't want
it to be too abrasive so it's you know
making you cringe but
at the same time it needs to sit in the
space and you know what's happening
especially if it's a dangerous
you know creature of some sort yeah you
can hear what it's doing yeah
all right we have one more we have one
more piece and i'll let you guys
we really are saving the best for less
i'll let you guys tell the story behind
it first
yeah this one was a as a lot of these
sound design things are was a total
accident
and um i was cleaning up after a big
mess in the recording studio where
probably drew's yogurt splatters on the
walls or whatever but
um anyway we have this uh really cool
table that
that drew made out of a piece of uh it's
like a live edge
uh a piece of wood and then he put these
great you know like limb legs on it and
everything and i started moving that
and it made the most awesome sound
scraped across the floor
okay this is cool uh jerry i'll be back
in 10 minutes
yeah sorry yeah you just we
yeah of course you know the room didn't
get clean but we got some good sounds
yeah
it's one of those things so yeah i
talked to him after that and he's
his eyes were big he's like oh man i got
some really good stuff
and that's another thing we didn't know
where it was going to be you know used
yeah sure but it was it was gold
and uh it's perfect for this
okay do it all right we have we have it
here this is the
said table yes first calm down this is
not the
table this is just a table
so all right so yeah it's it's basically
uh
you have to find the proper spot on the
floor
[Music]
[Music]
so you know a little something like that
singing is a song of his people right
yes that first one was perfect
perfect all right so now we also have
table boss confirmed
there we go he has table and door boss
yep did you do boss fighter armor
stick legs all right so that's our
little preview
of the upcoming raid boss oh
i just wasn't sure where that camera was
going there's our preview of the raid
boss we're going to give you another
little look at the sky
i'm not going to tell what he is yet
catch us next week
we're going to have hugh and jessica on
to talk about pro leagues
and we're going to tell you a little bit
more about the next raid boss
so thank you guys very much for coming
and making funny noises for us again oh
absolutely always a pleasure i wanted to
say one thing
it all comes together with good
implementation so
cody and keenan work very hard yes uh
putting these sounds
on the creatures and then rigging the
skills
and then bringing the events all
together and it's it's just so fun to uh
see it all come and and play with it and
uh yeah
so super happy definitely yeah one of
these days we need to get like
your whole team in here that'd be can
funny everybody can make funny noises
and see
oh yeah how much it takes we can do that
yeah all right
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some more about upcoming raid boss and
guild wars 2 pro leagues
see you guys next week bye see ya thank
you guys
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Guild Chat - Episode 31

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