User talk:Knighthonor/Channeling

My original page

This is original, and not a copy of anything.--Knighthonor 00:24, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

But where is the source?-- Shew ♠♠♠ 00:25, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Delete this, nothing says there will be such a thing called Channeling. It's pure speculation. -- Konig/talk 01:26, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Check the blog from the main site--Knighthonor 01:27, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

You're going to have to be more specific, the only use of the word channel is "The Elementalist channels natural forces of destruction, making fire, air, earth, and water do her bidding." which is not the same as this. -- Konig/talk 01:35, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Edit: Thanks to Era, I know what you mean. But "channel skill" != (that's does not equal) "Channeling" - this is still an unofficial name. -- Konig/talk 01:36, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Regarding that specific point, Kt is right: it was mentioned by Eric Flannum that "there’s a channel skill which if you hold down will heal you". So we could say that an official source mentioned a channel mechanic. Here, whats his name showed you--Knighthonor 01:37, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

And yet it's only a speculation that Meteor Shower and Churning Earth are channeled skills, and it's speculation that "channels" means "require the caster to not change position" (as opposed to only requiring the caster to mantain the skill), and etc. As Konig mentioned, Arena Net has never even used the expression "Channeling". Erasculio 01:39, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Yes and Some Channel spells may allow movement while holding it down. This would be added to the page.--Knighthonor 01:42, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

You seem to be dancing over the fact that "Channeling" has not been used by ANet.-- Shew ♠♠♠ 01:43, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

@Shew Channeling - the act of Channel  ?????--Knighthonor 01:46, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Did you not realize it could be called "channel skill/spell" or that channel was used as a description and not as a name? No? Well, that's your issue. -- Konig/talk 01:47, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

And? How would this not be the same description? --Knighthonor 01:48, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Besides, if your definition of a channeled skill would be "skills that require the caster to not change position" and there would be channeled skills which "may allow movement while holding it down", you don't know what's the definition of channeled skills, since you claim some of them would breach your definition of what they are, which is impossible. Therefore, you don't have enough knowledge to make this article (which isn't surprising, considering how there is not enough information to make this article). Erasculio 01:49, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Thats why its can be updated when more comes out. Thats no different from many of the pages here on this site. Go correct them while you at it.--Knighthonor 01:53, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Many pages that you've created?-- Shew ♠♠♠ 01:54, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Remember the policy, dont be a dick. Well can you stop. Appreciate it --Knighthonor 01:57, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Or ... you could not pull double standards.-- Shew ♠♠♠ 02:00, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

(Reset indent) Kt, no one is being a dick. But the word "channeling" is not used at all, just "channels" which could be anything. It's too vague. And can you not to spamming the Recent changes with making articles that hold little to know official information? Things like Crowd Control that are not used (by Anet or the GW community) is just pointless. And remember, just because we don't agree with you doesn't mean that we're trolling, flaming, or whatever - you seem to have an over-active imagination about that thinking that everyone who disagrees with you is out to get you. Which is completely not true. -- Konig/talk 02:05, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Channeling is a act of Channel. Which is what Anet called the Ele spell types and in the blog names the mechanics of the hold down skills. And yes, many of the other's logic for delete tagging my articles are just ridiculous. There are many pages on this site that are nothing but PURE speculation. for example. the Necromancer and Ranger pages. No where has those been confirmed to be the class names. Remember concept art is just that, concept art. From it, I could make a page talking about a Gunner class as well.--Knighthonor 02:10, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

The Ranger and Necromancer have been mentioned by ANet. The former was mentioned in an interview, and the latter was mentioned in the art book.-- Shew ♠♠♠ 02:12, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

As Shew said, Ranger and Necromancer are not pure speculation. The deletion tags haven't been ridiculous, and while "Channeling is a act of Channel" may be right, despite how horrid the grammar is, it is still speculation to call it channeling. As I said above, channel might be used as an descriptive term, not as a name. And if it is as a name, it could be Channel Skill instead of Channeling. And there's more possibilities. Honestly, my money is on it being a descriptive term and not a name. It is still speculation that it is called such. And in fact, the wording of Eric says "there's a channel skill" meaning that if "channel" is in the name of the skill type, then it will be called "Channel Skill" and not "Channeling." -- Konig/talk 02:18, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2010/04/28/guild-wars-2-interview-part-1-fighting-fires/ yeah Iam done with this subject. so thanks later--Knighthonor 02:29, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

You do realize that answers nothing, right? And in fact, the line with channel in it is what I just said. But since you're done with this subject, I guess you're no longer opposed to deletion? -- Konig/talk 02:32, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Well its pointless. when the game comes out, the page is going to be remade right back again like I noted. So,,, hey,, hope you have fun--Knighthonor 02:34, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Seriously? Now your stating it like you KNOW it's going to happen. May I see your proof that it WILL happen? Are you with Arenanet? i really don't think so..Asuransylvari

Link above is your friend--Knighthonor 02:51, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

can we argue about Extrapolating from the same article next? User:geist null

Ya - I want an article for "super loyal, super-fanatic fans". :P This page over extrapolates the information from the RPS interview. There is no indication at all of channeling being a generic skill attribute. Perhaps there is a skill called 'channel' for the elementalist but nothing more than that. As per Konig et al. -> delete please. -- Aspectacle  04:02, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

Oh look, more WoW-derived garbage from Knighthonor. Delete please. Arshay Duskbrow 06:02, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

For once, I somewhat agree with KH, the wording of the article could use some changes though. It is logical to assume that the act of using a Channel Skill will be called Channeling. This concept will eventually be more fleshed out for us, but I don't think we have enough information now to make a page. Also, after the comma on the page is speculation. My advice to you KH, is to copy this article and make it a subpage for your userpage, update it and change it as we get more information. When Channeling is revealed in deeper depth, you could add this back into the general articles.

To the rest of you, thinking that any sort of channel type skill concept in GW2 will likely be called channeling by the community, and by the mmo community in general. ANet is going for a more traditional MMO approach, so I think we may see more generic MMO terminology creep into our GW vocabulary. Crowd Control has even been used by A-net staff, though in limited context in an interview. Lay off KH a little bit, he deserves his lumps, no need to beat a dead horse.

In summation, this page will have a place when more information is available, but now is not the right time. And KH is in the wrong here, but not enough to deserve some of the response pointed at him.--Corsair@Yarrr 06:06, 18 May 2010 (UTC)

My advice to you KH, is to copy this article and make it a subpage for your userpage, update it and change it as we get more information. When Channeling is revealed in deeper depth, you could add this back into the general articles. <---How I do this?--Knighthonor 10:21, 18 May 2010 (UTC)