Talk:Screenshot

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This is for when the game comes out, so that people starting to play it, who maybe didn't take screenshots in any other Guild Wars, or want to learn how to, can take as many screen shots with the best opportunities. It allows people new to "screenshooting" to capture their characters best moments in a picture, that they can upload to wherever they desire. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:FireRanger (talk) .

The information in the article is only for Guild Wars 1; we don't know how it'll work in Guild Wars 2. There may not be a ctrl+shift+h combination, a function which removes the UI, the UI elements specified, or even a feature which saves them to a folder. Taking away the Guild Wars-specific information, we're just left with pressing the printscreen button, and that's not really sufficient information. It's best to wait until we know how something works before we document it. -- Pling \ talk 13:30, 10 November 2008 (UTC)

I do not think that the "cntrl+shift+h" task, and if they do, there would still be a a screenshot folder, as there must be for any print screen. The "screens" that you save always have to go smoewhere, it may not be in your program files, but it is still there. If there is no "cntrl+shift+h" sequence in Guild Wars 2, then this would just require simple editing to the text, not an all together deleting. It would also still be possible to upload any picture as well, as the picture is saved in a folder automatically, then you can put it online, so this is also still going to be used in Guild Wars 2. So, in general, the screenshots will still work, and if anything needs to be changed, it would only be an edit, not an Article Deletion. --The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:FireRanger (talk) .

The fact that we all we can do is speculate on screenshooting is enough to show we don't have enough information on it; we only document facts and actualities, not assumptions. Nothing about screenshooting exists yet - no information, nor the actual ability to screenshoot - so I don't think we need the article, and to have one now incorrectly implies we do know something about it -- which we don't. When that time comes, it's easy enough to create the article based on what actually exists. -- Pling \ talk 13:58, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

We still don't need to delete it, as you can always have screen shots. Everything else, you can remove, but that fact is dead cold certain. That and the uploading fact is an absolute thing, as you can upload whatever you want, and it is possible for you to have a screenshot of whatever you want, its part of your computer.

Then the facts of screenshooting aren't specific to Guild Wars 2, and Wikipedia will serve better for that purpose. -- Pling \ talk 22:09, 11 November 2008 (UTC)

No, as it shows people that you can take screenshots of your moments, how to upload them onto sites such as Guild Wars 2 or fan sites, how to look at them and improve their images, as well as how to access them, for on any computer, the screenshot would automatically be placed into a Program Files Guild Wars, no matter if its newer or older. So, with a simeple editing this article can remain, and still help people.

By the way, you sound like a very intriging fellow, being able to carry on an argument like this. Many people are not able to do this with me. I respect you for that.

wikipedia:Screenshot, in my opinion, has more detailed information about screenshooting, and anything we have won't contain any Guild Wars 2-specific information because nothing Guild Wars 2-specific has been released. However, we're going in circles now, and the only compromise I see is to keep minimal information about screenshooting and to categorise it into [[:Category:Articles possibly not relevant to GW2]]‏‎. That said, I still support the article's deletion for the time being, until such time that we get more information.

By the way, you can sign your comments by entering ~~~~, which automatically inserts your signature and a timestamp. -- Pling \ talk 15:42, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

Very well Plingggggg, we will leave it that way. However Plingggggg, you have missed a few things that I think should stay, as theya re still relevant. They are as follows; That the saving and acessing of them will remain the same, where they will be saved, so that players will know how to get acess them {as this will remain the same} and just another part to the last paragraph, that they can be used for evidence against abuse. Also, there is a ScreenShot page on Guild Wars Wiki, that could be added as an external source as well.

I don't really like the wording of the first paragraph... it goes into too much detail about things we don't know - for example, where exactly this folder would be. -- Pling \ talk 22:42, 12 November 2008 (UTC)

The folder would be in the same place. It is the computer, not the game, that saves the screens, but it is the games screens, which is why it is there, and the saving is actually the same, but since we don't no for sure, I have it written as "vaguely the same".

The Page seems fine right now, and I believe that the argument is settled. I call for a Page Truce. Do you accept? FireRanger 02:13, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

This page has minimal content and all of it is speculation. We wouldn't be any worse off deleting this and writing it with actual evidence when said evidence is released from ANet. -Auron 03:25, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

And it's biased to W-XP; Vista doesn't save screens under Program Files, but, by standard, C:\Users\Name\Documents\Guild Wars\Screens. Program Files is sacred to Vista; you need to approve a manual edit to it twice :) (once if you disable UAC) --- -- talkpage 15:26, 13 November 2008 (UTC)

well, if vista can still use it, even if they have to manually edit, it should be fine shouldn't it? we could inclue a bracket for vista users on how to get it, but its still good.

Ehh... Please re-read what I said. I never said you have to manually edit anything to get a screenshot of GW on Vista. I merely stated "[...]and screenshots will be saved in a folder under the main file of Program Files. " doesn't go for Vista users (and that sentence is badly written anyhow). --- -- talkpage 10:35, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

And that is still all specific to Guild Wars 1. -- Pling \ talk 14:27, 15 November 2008 (UTC)

IMO the "Screenshots can be taken by pressing the Print Screen key." line needs to go. It's probably true, but it's also speculative, and I don't think we should be stating speculation as fact, no matter how sure we are about it. It's not likely, but maybe print screen do something else by default, such as video recording. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 07:45, 23 November 2008 (UTC)

Screenshots can always be taken with prntscrn, on a Windows OS, mrite? --- -- talkpage 17:11, 25 November 2008 (UTC)

There's a different between a printscreen and a true GW screenshot. Vili 14:49, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

A printscreen is a screenshot, though. --- -- talkpage 19:42, 28 November 2008 (UTC)

But standard windows screenshots aren't saved anywhere, the latest screenshot is merely kept in the clipboard until it's overwritten, and even in GW1, the statement that "screenshots will be saved in a folder under the main file of Program Files" doesn't apply to Vista. -- Gordon Ecker (talk) 02:09, 29 November 2008 (UTC)